CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys

Subject: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: The Lighthouse
Date: 26 Mar 00 - 10:28 PM

Hi Looking for anyone's input on a good CD of sea songs or shanties or anything of the like. It can be cd or cassete or lo and behold 8 track or EVEN reel to reel. I'll even stop by if ya wanna sing me one!!! Anything??

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GUEST,Stu
Date: 26 Mar 00 - 10:35 PM

A great CD of Sea Shantys is by a maritime band called Sons of Maxwell. The CD is called "Sailor's Story".

Check out their Website:

http://www.sonsofmaxwell.ns.ca/

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: SeanM
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 01:05 AM

Check the "shop and auction" link above for some really good discs by some really talented people... or, try www.woodenshipsmusic.com for a selection of just shanteymen (and women).

Hope this helps...

M

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: DebC
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 10:35 AM

You might want to check out the bookstore at Mystic Seaport in Mystic, CT. The website is http://store.mysticseaport.org/media/

Some of my favorite CDs of sea shanties and music are:

Starboard List Steady As She Goes (Jeff Warner, Garret Warner, Lou Killen) Blow Boys Blow (A.L. Lloyd & Ewen MacColl) Anything by William Pint & Felicia Dale

Deb

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: DebC
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 10:50 AM

Mystic Seaport Media

This may not work, but I am trying a "blue clickey thing" for Mystic Seaport.

Deb

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 12:41 PM

You might try to get hold of this; Sea songs and shanties. (traditional English sea songs and shanties from the last days of sail)CD SDL 405, 1994, Mono; These are 1950's recordings on reel to reel,transferred to DAT. All recorded between 1950 and 1960 by Peter kennedy. Produced by; Saydisc records. Chipping manor. The Chipping. Wotton under edge. Glos GL12 7AD Uk. Tel [phone]. Cheers. Eric

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GUEST,Roberto
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 12:50 PM

Two CD that in my opinion are among the best have already been named, "Blow,Boys,Blow", by Ewan MacColl & A.L.Lloyd, and the Saydisc anthology "SEa songs and shanteys from the last days of sail". I would add the Topic anthology, "Blow the man down", and the CD by A.L.Lloyd about the whaling trade, "Leviathan". The other Topic anthologies about sea songs, "Round Cape Horn" and the two in the collection "The Voice of the People" ("We've received orders for to sail" and "Our ship shall sail the ocean") are not about shanteys, but they are very interesting too. Roberto

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: zander (inactive)
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 01:14 PM

There is an album called 'Farewell to the Master ' by a group from the north east of Englang called The Keelers. It is a tribute to Stan Hugill, it is the best shanty album ever. Regards, dave

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 02:01 PM

Blow,Boys,Blow", by Ewan MacColl & A.L.Lloyd the Saydisc anthology "SEa songs and shanteys from the last days of sail". the Topic anthology, "Blow the man down" the CD by A.L.Lloyd about the whaling trade, "Leviathan". "Round Cape Horn" and the two in the collection "The Voice of the People" ("We've received orders for to sail" and "Our ship shall sail the ocean")

All available at CAMSCO Music. Two others, which I highly recommend, are Folk-Legacy cassettes only (I think): both by the Boarding Party.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 02:47 PM

Right you are, Dick. The Boarding Party cassettes are available from Folk-Legacy with booklets of notes on the songs' histories and their complete texts. CLICK HERE (I hope!)

Sandy

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 03:57 PM

Anything by the Keelers as mentioned above, or by Johnny Collins.Also a group called the Anchormen (Ian Smith and Keith Kendrick) who I beleive are now defunct, but who did a tape called Nautical but Nice.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Margo
Date: 27 Mar 00 - 07:57 PM

Look for anything by LOU KILLEN. He has several CD's available; "Sailors, ships and chanteys" , "A Seaman's Garland", and Steady as she Goes".

Then for a pleasurable listen but a departure from the authenticity of a'capella shanteys check out Shanghaied on the Willamette. Fun! Happy listening - Margo

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Doctor John
Date: 28 Mar 00 - 12:43 PM

I've just started collecting these. Yes, "Steady As She Goes" is one of the best. Topic produce a good anthology "Blow The Man Down" (includes Steptoe's son!). I found a good Johnny Collins CD for just about £5.00 called "Songs of the Sea" - you can't beat that for value. Dr John

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GUEST,belter
Date: 28 Mar 00 - 08:32 PM

I recomend William Pint & Felicia Dale, a duo who sing songs of the sea. I think you can find their web page by searching for their names. I that doesn't work try Hearts of Gold the name of one of their albums.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 28 Mar 00 - 11:45 PM

There used to be a Sea Chantey FAQ that was uploaded to the Folk newsgroup every once in a while. It had an invaluable annotated list of recordings and books on Shanteys.

There is a website that was started several years ago and never finished that has most of the FAQ information on it.

It can found here:

Sea Shantey FAQ,

Enjoy

JAB

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 29 Mar 00 - 12:41 AM

Mudcat's own "Liam's Brother" (Dan Milner) has a good 'un titled Irish Ballads and Songs of the Sea on Folk-Legacy. (CD-124). He's backed by a pretty darned good crew including Mick Moloney and Lou Killen, among others of equal talent and energy.

TAKE A LOOK HERE

Sandy (with proprietary interest admitted)

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 29 Mar 00 - 08:38 AM

Check out the Pyrates Royale. They sing shantey's and other sea related folk songs.

Wincing_Devil
To a cat, "NO!" means "Not while I'm looking."

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GUEST,RedDogJam
Date: 29 Mar 00 - 08:52 AM

"Hog Eye Navvy" is a group that plays at the Aristocrat in Inianapolis, In every Friday night and they have a wonderful CD out called "Based On A True Story" and is all sea shantys. You have to arrive at the restaraunt around 6:30 to be sure to have a seat for the 9:00 show. They have a tremendous following and everyone in the audience sings all of the songs along with them..

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GUEST,Red Dog Jam
Date: 29 Mar 00 - 08:55 AM

Forgot to mention that Hog Eye can be reached at [e-mail] or PO Box 334, Beach Grove,IN 46107.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 29 Mar 00 - 09:15 AM

Having no connection with Dan Milner or Folk-Legacy I can honestly recommend their CD as well ( you know where to send the payola, guys!). I bought it on the recommendation of other 'catters and I'm glad it was brought it to my attention. Great stuff.
RtS

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: TerriM
Date: 29 Mar 00 - 01:36 PM

The Shanty Crew have a cd called 'Where am I to go?" with lots of lovely clasics on it and a fab set of notes to accompany; it's from Brewhouse Music, dunno if you can get it from a related to Mudcat site, if you can, good,if not e-mail me and I'll give you the address and telephone number.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: paddyc
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 01:23 PM

My favourite Shanty album is "The Wild & Wasteful Ocean by Clancy O'Connell and Clancy. Click on that link to go to Liam Clancy's website for more details.

All the best, Willy Brennan.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: SeanM
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 03:49 PM

Speaking of the Clancys and shanteys...

I've often heard tell of a record they did of nothing but shanties back during their original heydey... anyone know details on it? I'm a fan of their arrangements, and would love to at least know what's on it.

M

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: KathWestra
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 04:40 PM

Dick Holdstock and Allan MacLeod (based in California) have recorded bunches of chanteys. Since I'm at work, I don't have the names & publication info., but I'll get it and jump back on here. They're worth hearing! (Dick has an amazing repertoire of Napoleonic songs, many of which he's recorded, and about which he's writing a book. These are also well worth hearing!)

I'm not sure I agree that Pirates Royale are a good source, but they do have lots of ardent fans around here and surely get people's attention when they perform. They have an especially great following among kids and teenagers here in the Washington, DC, area.

There are also some VERY GOOD source books from which to learn (and learn about) sea songs. "Songs the Whalemen Sang" and "Shanties from the Seven Seas" are two that come to mind as definitive.

I'd also second the recommendation of the Boarding Party recordings available from Folk Legacy. Not only is the singing wonderful, but the well-researched notes are superb.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Abby Sale
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 07:52 PM

There are many good suggestions here. I've had and loved the MacColl/Lloyd records since forever. But I think of them more as songs then chanties. Also many of them are forebitters or a few "songs about the sea." Keep in mind that the chantey is the actual working song. It has a call/response/rhythm. Sone as a presentation piece it's just a song based on tradition.

There are few field recordings of chanties, of course, since the practice died about 1917. But the bits of Bahamin stuff on Library of Congress records are superb (Ethnic Music:LA,Bahamas,Southwest (Lomax) AFS L5). After that, there's some brilliant reproduction of it. I'd also put the two Boarding Party records up there at the top. The two Hugill tapes available from Mystic Seaport are not to be missed. Prof. Hugh Williamson's extensive Sea Chanty FAQ http://www.netcom.com/~neilmber/shantyfaq/part1.html is well worth a read and there are many excellent references there.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Abby Sale
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 08:13 PM

Hmmm. The Prof's FAQ seem to have been stolen. The front page is actually http://home.netcom.com/~neilmber/shantyfaq/part0.html but the good info part isn't there, only the lists. They are useful themselves - records, song titles, venues but not the meat of the faq. I have the full updated faq but it's 97 pages on Word for Windows so I don't think I'll copy it here. (You're welcome!) I don't know where it is on the web. But here's the Prof's updatish list of CDs

These fourteen are quite good and contain, almost exlusively, sea shanities and/or whaling music:

01. Clayton, Paul, Sailing & Whaling Songs of the 19th Century, Legacy, CD389
02. Holdstock, Dick; Murphey, Tom, San Francisco Shanties and Sea Songs of California's Gold Rush, Holdstock & Murphey, HDMU1
03. Kastle, Tom & Chris, Strike the Bell, Sexton Music, SXA5991
04. Killen, Lou; Warner, Jeff; Warner, Gerret; Benson, Fud, Steady as She Goes: Songs and Chanties from the Days of Commercial Sail, Collector Records,1928CD
05. Killen, Louis, Sailors, Ships & Chanteys, Knock Out Recordings, KO-03
06. Lou Killen, Sea Chanteys ESP, ESP 1085-2
07. Revels Choir, Blow Ye Winds - Sea Chanteys, CD 1084
08. Roberts/Cooper/Cox, Sea Songs & Shanties, SAYDISC, CD-SDL405
09. Starboard List, Songs of the Tall Ships, Genes, GCD102527
10. Various, Blow The Man Down, Topic, TSCD464
11. Wickford Express, Away, You Santy!, LaserLight,12412
12. Wickford Express, Fair Winds, LaserLight, 12614
13. The X Seamens Institute (Klay, Woerner, Townley & Aguiar), The X Seamens Institute Sing at the South Street Seaport,The Sea Heritage Foundation
14. The X Seamens Institute (Klay, Woerner, Townley & Aguiar), Hearts of Oak!, The Sea Heritage Foundation


These four, while enjoyable, are not "pure" sea shanty/whaling music:

Hobo Jim, Where Legends Are Born, Flying Fish, FF 70520
MacColl, Ewan, Black & White - Definitive Collection, Cooking Vinyl, COOKCD 038
Tamarack, Frobisher Bay, Folk Era Productions, FE1409CD
Glouster Hornpipe, Airs From Who Knows Where, Wizmak, W579-30CD

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: paddyc
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 11:08 PM

SeanM- The one which you mean is "Sing of the Sea" by the Clancy Bros. & Tommy Makem. It has Congo River, Santy ano, paddy west, and other 1's lik ethat.

All the best.

I'l try & find the complete track listing

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: garbanzo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 04:17 PM

The Mystic Seaport Musuem in Mystic, CT has some fine chanteymen, some of whom have made recordings.

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Margo
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 05:21 PM

Since William Pint and Felicia Dale were mentioned earlier, I just thought I'd mention that I came across their touring schedule here. They are going to spend quite a bit of time in the UK, so heads up that way! I do recommend going to see them; I enjoy their shanteys. Margo

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 10:44 PM

ABBY:

I have an earlier version of the full FAQ (1997 I think), but haven't seen it listed recently. When was the last time that it was updated that you are aware of ??? Do you know where it is for download by FTP or some other means?

By the Way.

I have enjoyed your "Happy" series over the years. Man what an encyclopedia of information!!!! :-) Also, is Abby Sale your real name or psuedonym? I know of some other Abby's in Florida that post by different nick names and was wondering if you were one and the same.

JAB

Subject: RE: CD Req:Best CD's of Sea Shantys
From: Abby Sale
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 11:14 PM

JAB, My copy is "Sea Chanteys, Forebitters, & other Songs of the Sea" V. 5.1, dated: 18 March, 1997. Hugh sent it to me personally then went out to do research in Fiji or somewhere. Haven't heard from him in a while...

The 4.2 faq was webbed by a Neil Berkowitz in 1996. I wrote him the other day when I caught the faq-loss but haven't heard back yet.

If you let me know your e-mail address & want it I'll email it. It's 97 pages of Word for Windows & 230kb.

Thanks for the kind words. "Abby Sale" is my real name & as far as I know, the only one such in the world. Although the name is real, it is possible that I am either fictional or digital.