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Teens. The next generation...

GUEST,Coley The Geordie 30 Mar 00 - 07:40 AM
Mbo 30 Mar 00 - 08:11 AM
catspaw49 30 Mar 00 - 08:15 AM
Mbo 30 Mar 00 - 08:26 AM
Mooh 30 Mar 00 - 09:04 AM
Wesley S 30 Mar 00 - 11:21 AM
Bert 30 Mar 00 - 12:04 PM
roopoo 30 Mar 00 - 05:01 PM
Coley The Geordie 30 Mar 00 - 05:29 PM
Bert 30 Mar 00 - 06:01 PM
Mbo 30 Mar 00 - 06:17 PM
paddymac 30 Mar 00 - 06:47 PM
Lonesome EJ 30 Mar 00 - 08:46 PM
Eleanor 30 Mar 00 - 10:07 PM
MMario 30 Mar 00 - 10:14 PM
Eleanor 30 Mar 00 - 10:20 PM
Mbo 30 Mar 00 - 10:45 PM
MMario 30 Mar 00 - 10:48 PM
Mbo 30 Mar 00 - 10:56 PM
ddw 30 Mar 00 - 11:47 PM
Eleanor 30 Mar 00 - 11:48 PM
Mbo 31 Mar 00 - 12:08 AM
Art Thieme 31 Mar 00 - 12:13 AM
Mbo 31 Mar 00 - 12:18 AM
Eleanor 31 Mar 00 - 12:28 AM
Benjamin 31 Mar 00 - 12:44 AM
Mbo 31 Mar 00 - 12:46 AM
Eleanor 31 Mar 00 - 12:48 AM
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Mbo 31 Mar 00 - 12:51 AM
Mbo 31 Mar 00 - 12:56 AM
Eleanor 31 Mar 00 - 12:59 AM
Mbo 31 Mar 00 - 01:07 AM
GUEST,Wavestar 31 Mar 00 - 02:13 AM
Escamillo 31 Mar 00 - 03:39 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 31 Mar 00 - 04:04 AM
Eleanor 31 Mar 00 - 07:51 AM
Mbo 31 Mar 00 - 10:19 AM
ceitagh 31 Mar 00 - 01:23 PM
Sean Belt 31 Mar 00 - 03:48 PM
Caitrin 31 Mar 00 - 03:57 PM
Benjamin 31 Mar 00 - 07:55 PM
bbc 31 Mar 00 - 11:14 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 Apr 00 - 04:58 AM
GUEST,hollowfox 01 Apr 00 - 10:50 AM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 01 Apr 00 - 10:56 AM
Caitrin 01 Apr 00 - 10:57 AM
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Subject: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,Coley The Geordie
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 07:40 AM

Since I stumbled upon this site a few days ago, floating around, sending the odd message, it soon became clear to me that there was an absence of youth. Now I don't mean to be offensive to any older members, but being of only sixteen years myself I need people of my own age. SO WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY?????


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 08:11 AM

Coley, we're here all right! Check us out!

Emily Rain--23
Me, Mbo--21
Wavestar--20
Ceitaigh--19
Caitrin-18
Chocolate Pi
Ian Stephenson--18
Tradsteve--18
Kelida--17
Barky--15
Caitlin--15
Youngest Bob Fan--15

Mudcat youth! We're here to stay!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 08:15 AM

And Sam Pirt.....who has an active and award winning band in England.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 08:26 AM

ARG! How could I remember Ian and not Sam! Doh! And BTW Coley, don't forget to listen to the older members as well as us, they have much knowledge, and are a pricless resource. Don't waste them.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mooh
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 09:04 AM

Welcome aboard Coley! I was born in the fifties, which qualifies me as permanently teenaged. I'm more idealistic, and no more responsible than when I was 16, but I am more experienced, whatever that's worth. I don't plan on getting old, ever, and I plan to live forever. There's always gonna be stuff I miss, regardless of my chronological age, that's why I need folks like you, and maybe that's why you need folks like me.

Your perceived absence of youth on this site might be caused by the intelligence of the contributors. My own kids are much more worldly than I was at their age, and I hope it works to their advantage in life. I hadn't tried to attach ages to each writer here, now it's gonna be fun to try.

Peace.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 11:21 AM

Coley - As an old fart - 48 years old - I hope that all of the younger members feel welcomed here. Because it will be you "whippersnappers" that keep these musical traditions alive . You'll be another link in the chain. Just like we were. Do your best to pass it on. Thanks for coming on board. Tell us about yourself.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Bert
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 12:04 PM

Hi Coley, Great to have you here. It's a fun place where age doesn't matter. What do you sing/play? send us a tape or CD and we'll play it on Mudcat Radio.

And remember that an old fart who's a folkey, has a teenager inside. I'm permanently stuck in the Fifties along with Roger the Skiffler.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: roopoo
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 05:01 PM

48 must be an common age for us old'uns. There's a 20 year old in me, but my body won't let her out to play!(I'm the mother of 2 teenage girls, which is enough to age anybody, and a lad of nearly 21).

To be honest, having seen the age of some of the younger 'catters, I am amazed at how articulate and mature they are. I had no idea there were people of such tender years with us. Or is that just me showing my age? There is so much talent in the young musicians who are emerging these days. I sometimes wonder what their own offspring will be playing like!

mouldy


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Coley The Geordie
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 05:29 PM

Well I can't believe my eyes, so many replys in such a short space of time. Well, like I said, I'm 16. I live in Washington, England. Near Newcastle. Home of The Lambton Worm! I'm a Geordie born and bred. The son of the son of a miner...

I go to college where I am doing a course in Popular music. I like most types of music especially folk. I play guitar and bass and sing. I write my own songs and thats about it. If I have missed any vital details out just let me know...

Oh, and thanks for replying, its nice to know people care!


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Bert
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 06:01 PM

I THOUGHT you were a 'Son of Son of a something' ;-)


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 06:17 PM

Good to have you here, Coley! You'll fit in perfectly here, believe me! And don't forget to check out the Song Challenge!s, to keep the songwriters in all of us on our toes!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: paddymac
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 06:47 PM

The marvelous thing about cyberworld communication is that all of us are judged soley on the merit of our contributions to the flow of ideas. The usual visual cues (including apparent age) by which we assess (often, unconsciously) our need to pay attention to peoples' comments are simply not available. My own philosophy is simple: Growing old is unavoidable(if you're lucky); growing up is optional! Welcome to the clan Coley.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 08:46 PM

Bert, I can't imagine what it must be like to be "permanently stuck in the fifties with Roger the Skiffler." Maybe a little like being stuck in the Sixties with Katlaughing, Spaw, Peter, Amos and Neil ? Anyway, I think it's far out that the young kids are involved. Although, they say you can't trust anybody under thirty...

LEJ (grinning geezer)


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 10:07 PM

can't trust anybody under thirty? isn't that backwards? :)

as a 20-year old myself, I'm thrilled to find i'm not alone in what seems sometimes to be a "grown-up" area.... although I know some that will never be grown-up!


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: MMario
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 10:14 PM

never gow up? that's me!


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 10:20 PM

now what i'm curious to know is: are any of my fellow gen-X'ers out there into research over performing? weird, I know..... :) I do have my obsession with singing, but would love to know who else likes pouring over dusty books on folk/Irish music.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 10:45 PM

Me me! I do! My college library has a good collection of books on Irish & Scottish music. I can be found sitting at the table, reading a book of Gaelic wauking songs from the Outer Hebrides, with a book on the histoty of Great Highland Bagpipe music next in the stack!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: MMario
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 10:48 PM

Don't believe him, he can't possibly have time to read. Not with everything else he does. Not unless he's managed to clone himself.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 10:56 PM

Actually that was last semester, Mario!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: ddw
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 11:47 PM

What's with this age thing?

Can you play? Can you sing? Are you interested in learning from those around you? Seems to me that should be all you need here. As far as I'm concerned, even good listeners are welcome in any musical gathering — cyberspace or meatspace — if they're interested in what's going on. I play and sing regularly with lots of people ranging in age from 13 to 75 and we all enjoy it.

Welcome aboard, youngsters. You newbies may find that the entire Mudcate supply of Prozac is allocated to Mbo, so you have to bring your own, but that shouldn't get in your way. A little enthusiasm is a good thing.

david (kickin' 57 — backwards)


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 30 Mar 00 - 11:48 PM

What college? where? are you in the States? 'cause i'm researching women in the history of irish folk music this semseter and am just coming up against so many walls.... what is it you're interested in?


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:08 AM

Yes I'm in the States, at East Carolina University in Greenville, North Carolina. What am I interested in? Not a good question! I could go on all day! But my special area is songs and poetry about the "Wild Geese", the Irish soldiers who joined European armies after the Treaty of Limerick. Great, heart-rending stuff.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Art Thieme
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:13 AM

I was a teenager in the 50s and tha qualifies me to be a teenager forever also.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:18 AM

And we're mighty glad of it, Art.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:28 AM

Hmm... North Carolina, huh? I have to start thinking grad school, and I'd like to really get into something like the women harpers of days gone bye....

so, why did the Irish soldiers join European armies after the treaty of Limerick?


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Benjamin
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:44 AM

Mbo, you forgot me as well (true I haven't posted much lately)! I'm 20. I go to college here in Seattle!

My interests are mainly blues and world music (and some pop and soul music). I study classical guitar privately as well (helps understand all that theory I'm learning in class!) Guitar is my main insturment.

There isn't much reference at my school. I'm told though that the University of Washington (which I hope to transfer to after next year!) has one of the largest ethnomusicology departments in the state. I just have to wonder what kind of living can an ethnomusicologist make?

BMW


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:46 AM

Whoa, Eleanor! Long story...after several years of fighting and not getting anywhere, King William of England (Black Billy Grimes) gave the Irish earls and their soldiers a choice at the Treaty of Limerick. To keep what was theirs and be free, but politically part of England, or to fly to Europe, where they could fight for England's enemies. Many many, fled to Europe, mostly to France, where a whole "Irish Brigade" was formed in the French Army. William of course, after 2 months, repealed the treaty, and thus imposing on those who stayed The Penal Laws, which took land and home away from the Irish. Catholicism was outlawed. Food could not be grown. Many more Irish left after they saw how they had been tricked. The French ships used to come at night, smuggling goods to the Irish people, and in return taking refugees back to France. The French, not wanting to arouse suspicion of the stowaways, listed them as "Wild Geese" in the ship manifests. So the saga began.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:48 AM

I dunno, I was flirting with the idea of writing a history book... the last really good, from-the-dawn-of-time-of-Irish-Music history book was written way back in 1906! Maybe it's time for an updated version....

but, really, ethnomusicology is becoming a big field for teaching. there's this big emphasis (in the east, at least, I don't know what the situation is in the rest of the country) on students being exposed to cultural aspects of all kinds. music being a very popular one.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:50 AM

Ok, Mbo, now I remember! I never did manage to add up all the pieces of Irish history i learned... :)

sounds fascinating. are you planning on doing something with it, or keeping it as a hobby?


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:51 AM

Dang Ben, I forgot all about you! I was wondering if you were still here! The classical guitar guy, man after my own heart! Boy what I'd do to get an enthno degree in Celtic music, like Mike Moloney. That would RULE!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:56 AM

Yes, I'm composing and arranging a song cycle about the Wild Geese, I have lots of material. And not to boast (but TTCM hates it) the CD design I did for this imaginary album of songs about the "Wild Geese" in my computer-aided art & design class was one of only 4 in the class to be displayed in our college art gallery. Too bad most of them don't know who or what the Wild Geese were.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:59 AM

It's the same all over. most people here seem to think that Irish music is all represented by "Danny Boy" and some drunk guy on the bagpipes. It is my task to educate them.... :)


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 01:07 AM

As well as mine! That's why in the Fall, the fun begins! I'm taking my guitar to school and I'm gonna MAKE people learn about Celtic music! And they will like it!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,Wavestar
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 02:13 AM

I'm so happy not to be forgotten! I like research, but I'm not deeply devoted to it... I research English and strange, long forgotten stories instead. Lots of old ballads and stuff though...

The nice thing about being IN Scotland is that sure, I'm still surrounded by tasteless horrors listening to Backstreet Boys and Britanny Spears, but also by a rich, living, and very actively connected to the past community of Celtic music and history. And the Mediaeval history deptartment is great.

Anyway. Right. I'm Jessica. In Scotland. Most of the time. Young. Feeling like it except for when I'm depressed, when I should be smacked.

-J


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Escamillo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 03:39 AM

I´m forty thirteen (doesn't it qualify me as a teen ?) and much appreciate the opportunity to talk to very young people.
Un abrazo - Andrés


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 04:04 AM

Bert's right, as far as "popular" music goes I'm stuck in the '50s. Certainly most of my jazz and blues collection is earlier in origin though my non-skiffle folk interest dates from the 60s. A teenager inside? So that's why I'm getting fat, I thought it was too much food and alcohol! I'll now have a vision of an alien-type emergence of a spotty youth whenever I get heartburn! It's good to know there's a young bunch making such knowledgeable contributions to the 'Cat. Just leave the old jokes to us codgers, eh?
RtS (built for comfort, not built for speed)


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Eleanor
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 07:51 AM

Hi, Jessica. I know exactly what you're talking about, i spent a semester in Ireland last year, and just loved having the two extremes of Robby Williams and some session in a pub!

Speaking of Scotland, I think it's fascinating how interconnected the two music traditions are. I wonder which one borrowed more from the other? I suppose each would say the other did....


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 10:19 AM

DAng! You people get to go to all the cool places! MAn!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: ceitagh
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 01:23 PM

Poor meebs, never gets to go anywhere.....:-)
Anyway, I'm Ceitagh....I'm also fairly new here, and I'm 19. The difference between me and these other youths is my utter ignorance! But I did get to travel to Ireland last fall. C'mon meebs, schedule y'self a week off, save some money, and go somewhere!

Ceit


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Sean Belt
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 03:48 PM

The nice thing about this forum and music in general is the way it crosses generational boundaries in a single bound. I'm in my mid-40's, but have enjoyed playing fiddle tunes and all sorts of ballads with folks both many years my senior and my junior.

It's good to know there are so many young folkies looking into this site to balance out all us oldsters!


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Caitrin
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 03:57 PM

Hi, Coley! I'm Caitrin, currently in the same town as Mbo, soon to be in the western Mountains of NC. I'm interested in all kinds of music...my favorites in the traditional realm are Celtic and Appalachian music, and the only thing I can do with any degree of competency is sing.
Welcome to the Mudcat! The folks here are great, both young and old and whatever else they may be.
Ceitaigh, you're not the only ignorant one...I'm severely undereducated, but I try to remedy it a bit every day.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Benjamin
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 07:55 PM

I'm still here Mbo!

Mbo, have you ever heard David Russell's "Message of the Sea?" It's celtic Music arranged for the classical guitar. I saw him in concert last year. You should check him out if you get the chance. That was the best concert I've ever seen!

On another note, Mbo, I know what you mean about not getting to go anywhere! It will be awhile for me as well as I don't have much money and have to go to school summer quarter.

BMW


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: bbc
Date: 31 Mar 00 - 11:14 PM

My son, davidmc24, is a member. He is 18. He doesn't post much, but has supported Mudcat is various ways & is kept informed by me. He lives in the U.S., 1 hr N of NYC.

bbc


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 04:58 AM

"The two extremes of Robbie Williams..." Doesn't bear thinking about...

You're right about the range of Irish music, Eleanor - but don't write off the old drunks with the pipes.

I've been thinking - looking at the Mudcat logo and all, this thread is about the small fry. (Which is not intended as in any way disparaging, I haste to point out.)


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,hollowfox
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 10:50 AM

When I first connected with the folk community, besides the obvious shared intrest in folk stuff, the thing that I loved the most about it was that I wasn't treated like a "little kid" by the "grown-ups". Any lack of experience or education (or schooling, a different thing entirely) was unimportant. More likely, it was a very good thing. There's nothing quite so satisfying as sharing what you know and love with someone who loves the subject, but doesn't know that bit yet. Almost wonderful is knowing that you're being treated as a colleague, an equal, by someone with a difference of, say, fifty years between your respective ages. Nobody wants to be excluded from some fun because they're a little kid, nobody wants to be excluded because they're an old geezer, either. As for wondering if there are any other young'uns (for lack of a better term) like yourselves who haunt the library for ballads, blues, Celtic harp tunes, etc., well there are others, but not many. There always have been , but not many. And a good many of us ended up on the 'Cat. (Cream of the crop, that's us.) That's one good thing about being a young'un now. Listsers, special intrest websites, etc. can connect you with like-minded folks, whereas in the pre-'net era, it was only a combination of kind fate and dumb luck that some of us ever met any other folkies (Andy Kardos, if you're out there, thanks again). Still, I hope to meet some more of you in the corporeal world.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 10:56 AM

I'm very impressed by the interest shown by the younger generation in folk music. There are many talented young people here on the Mudcat who I enjoy listening to very much. Mudcatters try to make this this an interesting site, and for the most part pleasant and safe for you to enjoy. I think it behooves us to do so, for it is the only way we can keep this music alive, and heard by future generations. Yours, Aye. Dave (not so ancient that I cannot converse or identify with you all)


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Caitrin
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 10:57 AM

Hollowfox is right...one of the nicest things about this place is that people are treated as equals, regardless of age. I'll just take this little moment to thank all the Mudcatters for being nice to me even though I'm considerably more ignorant and a bit younger than most folks here.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,hollowfox
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 02:09 PM

Caitrin, rather than "ignorant" (choosing not to learn something, and ignoring it), how about "inexperienced"? No, that word carries some baggage, sometimes. My thesaurus suggests "unpracticed". Oh, well. There's nothing wrong with not having experienced something yet. The questions are what keeps the 'Cat a happy place. If everybody already knows everything that everybody else knows, there's no reason to visit. When somebody has a question, everybody else gets a chance to share what they know, add some depth to the subject with a story or another source, (and maybe show off a little, but we don't talk about that). BTW, thanks for the compliment; Everybody loves being told they're right.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Ely
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 05:22 PM

Go recruit some.

I've listened to this stuff all of my (rather short) life. I know quite a few people here who listen to/play/love it, which might just be because I go to a weird college, but you have to take people where you can find them.

Ely (22) also, Emma (19), Susanna (21), Susie (19), Nate (25), Tommy (23), Dave (23), Amber (23), Alice (24), Sarah (23), Dave L (21), Elizabeth (18), Brett (20), Hilary (19), Dan (20), Morgana (22), Hudson (22), Meredith (21), Brian (25), Amy (22), Diehl (18), Molly (21), Lloyd (18), Hollis (20), Kenna (19), and Eden (21).


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: MMario
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 05:53 PM

26 of you in one place? What a research tool! *grin*


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:42 PM

Wow, Ben, I MUST find that music! I did find a neat book here at ECU's music library, with Scottish folksongs arranged for classical guitar. The book was published in the 1870's. I also know how you feel. I too have to take 2 summer sessions (6 weeks each--9 straight hours a day,4 days a week). I got book learning, but as I student of life, I'm flunking out!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: WyoWoman
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 10:57 PM

This thread makes my heart sing.

(In A, I think ... 50 or so beats to the bar ...)

WW


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Benjamin
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 12:55 AM

Mbo, you could probably find that CD at the local record store. "Message of the Sea" is the name of the album, David Russell is the guitarist. I'm not sure about the availiability of the sheetmusic, though I'm also not sure how much a man in his early 20s could play. If he comes to your neck of the woods, you won't regret seeing him. He often conducts master classes in cities he performs in.

As for the book you found from the 1870's, the guitar was not a popular insturment at that point (or at least lost popularity shortly after). It must be intersting to hear what was happening on the guitar back then.

I hope you do find a way to get your ethnomusicology degree in celtic music. I don't know anyone who wants it or deserves it as much you do Mbo!

BMW


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 12:08 PM

Thanks, Ben! I heard something really cool recently, than Liam O'Flynn & John Williams (the classical guitar player)did a performance of Shaun Davey's "The Brendan Voyage" in a live concert in London. That must have been SO awesome! I abslutely ADORE Shaun Davey and Liam O'Flynn, and as far as I'm concerned, John Williams is THE MAN when it comes to classical guitar! What great music...what a great instrument! Keep on truckin' Ben, you deserve it as much as I do!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Ely
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 04:00 PM

MMario, It works in more ways than one--we share each other's music _and_ the parent & grandparent generations love us.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: ddw
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 09:29 PM

Caitrin — You're gonna love WNC. If you're familiar with the area, I won't bother, but if you're not, let me know and I'll point you to a few places to start making some musical contacts. My wife and I have a place in Montreat, about two miles north of Black Mountain, which is about 15 miles east of Asheville. If you're going to be there this summer, you'll want to check out some of the music at the Sourwood Festival and you should check out the Swannanoa Gathering at Warren Wilson College. I've never been to it, but I hear there are lot of great workshops.

If you're interested, send me a PM and I'll expand the list for you.

david


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Mbo
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 09:43 PM

More lucky stiffs!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Kelida
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 10:16 PM

I'm a bit late responding to this whole thing, but it's better late than never, right?

I know so many people my age who would love this place--they love folk music at least as much as I do. I have a friend who just got bagpipes (and he also sings) and another friend who just joined a local singing ensemble called the Happy Daggers (see their page here: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/8032/). We're all under 18.

Wow--maybe I'll start spreading the word about this place. It took me forever to find it, and my friends would love it here, too. . .


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: tradsteve
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 04:08 AM

I've been enjoying this thread immensley. I thought I was the only crazy, misguided child that enjoyed plundering through old books in search of precious forgotten gems. I'm the only one I know of, in my neck of the woods, but I'm glad to know that there are others of you out there.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,Julie
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 07:33 AM

Going back to Celtic guitar music. You must give Keith Hinchcliffe a go. His albums O'Carlan's Dream and Islands are wonderful. I know that the Sheet music exists to the first album.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Hollowfox
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 09:35 AM

Hey, Ely, it looks like you had better luck in recruiting than I did when I tried it, you lucky duck. I tried when I was in college (for the first two years, at least) and ended up with a dead coffeehouse and the acquaintance of a whole buncha people who (sometimes) liked the same music I did, but who all had Vastly Different tastes than mine. I also became known as Wierd Mary by all of the campus intellectuals (we called ourselves "freaks, others called us "hippies"). I wasn't buying the latest rock records, you see (I was listening to theirs), I was spending my money on Folk Legacy, Topic, etc. You may be having better results now because folk music isn't the "in" thing (my attempts were in the late 1960's). BTW, I'd love to compare your wierd campus with my alma mommy (Geneseo NY) sometime.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: MMario
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 10:15 AM

hollowfox, from what I've heard, geneseo will win. hands down. *grin*


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,Ian Stephenson
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 10:52 AM

Hello all you other young 'catters.
Me and Sam Pirt just started work on our new album. There is a band of us from round here and another band of 13 members!.

We LOVE trad music from all over, especially French-canadian and irish and Scandanavian!

I also went to Ireland recently. I can thouroughly recommend it to all young trad players and singers. It amazed me that I could walk into a pub and have a session, and go to a club afterwards with a huge group of young tradders.
You can even SEE AND HEAR your fellow catters ME and SAM on our new website. We be really interested in hearing from all young catters. We could help you plan a visit to some UK festivals and show you the young folk scene of britain. We need some mates in the US etc. to come and stay with for tours etc. because we aren't earning quite enough to afford hotel rooms!!
CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE:
www.the-422.co.uk
and E-mail me on:
iancollege@yahoo.com
Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 11:32 AM

I have just read this whole thread and I want to add my thanks and a hearty Big Mick Mudcat welcome to our Coley. That means that if I ever see you, lad, you will get a hearty hug from the biggest Mick you have ever seen. I am so pleased you have joined us and that your arrival has sparked a thread that shows us how valuable the younger members are. This just reinforces my belief that we are a vital, living community.

In my work, I have seen the effect on viable organizations that don't train, learn from, and encourage those that will come after them. Those organizations are dying a bit at a time. The successful long term organizations and communities are those that are interested in responding to the needs of all segments of that community.

Show us the way, young ones. We can give a tip or two along the way, but it is yours to take into the future.

Big Mick


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Ely
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 01:09 PM

Hollowfox

I had a head start--I grew up on Folk Legacy (it was a bit of a shock to find out that most people had never heard of it). But, like I said, I go to a weird college. There's quite a bit of local folk & bluegrass, too, though, and they look out for us if we show any interest. I think campus is about 35% "hippie". Other colleges make fun of us as a student body.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Caitrin
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 04:40 PM

Ely...the place I'm going to next year sounds similar to your college. : )
Thanks, Mick. We appreciate all the knowledge and experience you guys have to offer.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: GUEST,hollowfox
Date: 05 Apr 00 - 03:42 PM

Ely, I know what you mean. I was puzzled when nobody else in my elementary school oculd sing Gilbert & Sullivan patter songs from memory. I'm intrigued as to what college you go to, though. If it's not prying, which one is it? My three guesses are Hampshire College, Antioch, or Berkeley.


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Rob-IL
Date: 05 Apr 00 - 03:49 PM

I am 19, and am learning some of these.. there are a lot of people interested in folk music, but it doesn't get out enough...... so keep playing and singin'....


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Subject: RE: Teens. The next generation...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Apr 00 - 05:36 PM

There are still a few youngsters in England too. I think it's important to keep other countries' traditions alive as well as Celtic (and is there really a unified Celtic tradition - but htat's for another thread).

A young fly-by a feew months ago - one Eliza Carthy - also felt it was imortant to be playing English music as well as Euro-celtique.

Not sure what the equivalent is in the USA.

Oh, yes, my daughter has been here for research too. Her electric band's website is www.torniquet.freeserve.co.uk


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