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Subject: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,Pat Wilson Date: 30 Mar 00 - 11:43 PM Does anyone have the words or know of a website where I can access this moving piece of deathless poetry. I think its origins are in Music Hall. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: alison Date: 30 Mar 00 - 11:50 PM It is in the database but it is hard to find because of the spelling Dahn the plug'ole Welcome to mudcat slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:58 AM You found that song awful darn fast, Alison. I think I should worry for your children. Is THAT what you think of your kids? Poor dears. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Garry Gillard Date: 31 Mar 00 - 06:22 AM As sung by Martin Carthy! See: here. Garry |
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Subject: ADD: My baby got washed down the plughole From: vindelis Date: 31 Mar 00 - 10:32 AM Is this what you're after? this is the music hall version: A mother was washing her baby one night The youngest of twelve and a delicate mite The mother was poor and the baby was thin He was nowt but a Skellington covered in ski-in The mother turned round for the soap off the rack She was only a moment but when she turned back Her baby had gorn, and in anguish she cried "Oh where has my baby gorn?" The Angels repli-hied Your baby has gone down the plug hole Your baby has gone down the plug The poor little thing was so skinny and thin He should have been washed in a jug Your baby is perfickly happy He won't need a bath any more He'a splashing about with the angels above Not lost but gone before |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: harpgirl Date: 31 Mar 00 - 11:50 AM oh joy! a music thread without the annoying monopolizers on it and with interesting comments from some beloved forum individuals... |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Jim Krause Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:01 PM That's the one I remember listening to on the Cream's LP Disraeli Gears when I was in highschool. Egad! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Bert Date: 31 Mar 00 - 12:55 PM Harpgirl, I'm SURPRISED at you!! Posting an irrelevant message on a music thread. Shame on you, tsk, tsk. Gotcha! ;-) Bert. (who loves you really, but just couldn't let that one go.) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Susan of DT Date: 31 Mar 00 - 08:58 PM Hint for searchers: pick a characteristic word that isn't apt to be mis-spelled. Search for that. F'rinstance (in this instance) "plug*" (the asterisk takes care of the possibility of plughole being one word) gets you 28 hits, with a smidgeon of easily recognizable text for each one. 28 titles (and phrases) isn't reallya major chore to search through. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Greg F. Date: 31 Mar 00 - 09:58 PM Anyone have any additional info on the history of this song? or what period it dates to? I'd always assumed 1890's- Thanks! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: vindelis Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:35 AM As I have heard it on a B.B.C. T.V. programme called 'The Good Old Days', which was hosted by a rather exhuberant chap, by the name of, Leonard Sachs, I think you can be safe to assume that it is from the music hall period. The programme mentioned was composed, entirely of music hall material. Good luck with your search. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Liz the Squeak Date: 01 Apr 00 - 05:36 PM There may be more info in the Great British Song Book, but my copy has gone awol again. If I find it, I'll let you know. I do know that at least one version has bathing instead of washing, pronounce "barfing" - perhaps that's why it changed.... Funny, we were only singing this to the SOS (Spawn Of Satan - don't even ask) the other night - she likes the tune, but is far too ..... robust.... to go down the plug, unless it is one of those on the Hoover Dam.... Best sung in a Dick Van Dyke cockney accent - as in: moy bie-by as gorn darn ther plahgole, moy bie-by as gorn darn the plahg..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,Michele Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:21 PM Oh my.. my group or should I say one of our members sings this horrid song ..terribly off key and with such emotion it would make you sick..(hehe) it has become the song where i quickly take leave to powder my nose or just disappear for a moment. ( truth is I cant stand to hear him sing it (grin) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Brakn Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:43 PM Dick Van Dyke? I don't think so! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: alison Date: 01 Apr 00 - 09:29 PM Joe, I used to sing this with the brownies.... good camp fire song.....
slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: The Beanster Date: 01 Apr 00 - 09:46 PM I thought this song was going to be the one about:
"Alice, where are you going?" and then, oh my goodness, oh my soul, there goes Alice down the hole! hahahahaa Does anyone have lyrics for this one? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Duane D. Date: 01 Apr 00 - 10:32 PM A recorded source, if it's still in print for "Dahn the Plughole," is "spencer the rover is alive and well and living in ithaca," on Swallowtail Records, featuring John Roberts and Tony Barrand. (I have it on vinyl.) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,Pat Wilson Date: 04 Apr 00 - 09:24 PM Thanks everyone. I realise now of course that I knew this song all the time, having taken it in from birth. I'd just temporarily forgotten it. I can't think why! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: jofield Date: 05 Apr 00 - 12:08 AM My parents used to have a set of Morrie Amsterdam 78s (the same Morrie Amsterdam who later became Dick Van Dyke's sidekick on the TV show -- cosmic, huh?) which contained his version of this tune. He sang "your baby has gone down the drainpipe". There were several pretty funny tunes in the set: a mock-calypso called "True, Mon, True", a song full of puns ("They say that a pun is the lowest form of wit, and tho' they may be half-right..."), "Saloon", and a "meller-drama" in song. Anyone else ever hear this set? James. |
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Subject: Anna May, Where Are You Going? From: Mark Cohen Date: 05 Apr 00 - 12:18 AM Beanster: Anna May, where are you going? Upstairs, to take a bath Anna May, with legs like toothpicks And a neck like a giraffe Anna May stepped into the bathtub Anna May pulled out the plug Oh my goodness, oh my soul There goes Anna May down the hole! Anna May? Anna May! (glug) Of course, I'm reaching way back for that one, which I learned from my younger sister, and it's one of those that probably has many versions, but that's the way it was in northeast Philadelphia, 1965 or so. (My sister's best friend was named Annabelle, and immediately became Anna May after this song became known, much to her chagrin.) Aloha, Mark |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 05 Apr 00 - 11:22 AM [Thread creep warning:] In my wife's family there is a saying: "as daft as your Uncle Horace". I never met him (her grandfather's brother) but apparently he was once found by the outside drain where the pipe from the bathroom came out, holding a colander under the spout. When asked what he was doing he replied that his wife (who was notoriously skinny) was taking a bath and he was getting ready to catch her! I don't know how long he had been waiting for someone to see him and ask him! [And you think I go to great lengths to work a joke in!]. ? I think the zanier 'Catters would have found him a soul mate}! Well it does tie in with this song RtS |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Apr 00 - 04:23 PM Hi, Beanster- this being the Mudcat Cafe, font of all folk knowledge, we have a thread on Alice, Where Are You Going? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Garry Gillard Date: 29 Mar 01 - 02:32 AM I can now say with confidence that Martin Carthy sang this on Hootenanny and that there is, or was, a record to prove it - thanks to The Carthy Chronicles. Garry |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,mikweardale Date: 29 Mar 01 - 03:27 AM the 60s group cream recorded this as Mothers Lament on the album Disraeli Gears |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: dick greenhaus Date: 29 Mar 01 - 05:20 PM Roberts and Barrand's "Spencer the Rover" is about to be re-released on CD. Camsco will have it as soon as it's out. Hint. Hint. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST Date: 29 Mar 01 - 08:42 PM Clockwise or counterclockwise? Dr. Coriolis wants to know if his theory works. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: CRANKY YANKEE Date: 29 Mar 01 - 09:21 PM A Mother was bathing her baby one night The yongest of ten and a poor little mite The mother was poor and the baby was thin It was only a skeleton covered with skin. ?
The mother turned 'round for the soap from the rack,
"Your baby has gone down the Plug hole"
This version is a lot neater than the one in the Digitrad I learned it from Wally Whyton of the "Vipers Skiffle Group". |
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Subject: Amanda Sue From: GUEST,amanda hamilton (age 12) Date: 22 Dec 06 - 11:05 PM Amanda Sue, where are you going? Down the hall, to take a bath Amanda Sue, with legs like toothpicks And a neck like a giraffe Amanda Sue stepped into the tub Amanda Sue pulled out the plug Oh my goodness, oh my soul There goes Amanda down the hole! Amanda Sue? Amanda Sue? Where the heck are you! Amanda Sue slipped on the soap And then her leg was surely broke! Amanda Sue saw a nurse Then I asked for my purse I opened it up and what I saw Was a ticket to the mall When the docter finally came I Bowed my head in shame He asked me how it got broke I slipped on a bar of soap! I went upstairs to take a bath And well you do the math! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Bert Date: 23 Dec 06 - 02:01 AM Hey! NICE ONE Amanda. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: John MacKenzie Date: 23 Dec 06 - 03:52 AM Was that the album with 'Pressed Rat and Warthog' on it? This was a thinly disguised version of 'The Cutty Wren' Oh where are you going said Milder to Moulder etc. Giok Pressed Rat and Warthog |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST Date: 23 Dec 06 - 05:23 AM 4/18/03 I got your email and revisited the Zoe site. I posted a bio for you....hope it was not too long but it was hard to stop writing once I started. I used to be a counselor at "Group" for the younger campers. One song we sang was "Alice". Alice where are you going? Upstairs to take a bath. Alice with legs like toothpicks and neck like a Giraffe. Alice stepped in the bathtub, Alice pulled out the plug. Oh my goodness, Oh my sole, there goes Alice down the hole. Alice Alice Glub Glub Glub From the www |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Peace Date: 23 Dec 06 - 05:29 AM With chords. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Azizi Date: 23 Dec 06 - 07:47 AM Maybe off topic and maybe not: I'm wondering if there is any connection between the children's [jumprope or handclap] rhyme "Miss Lucy Had A Baby" and the songs "My baby got washed down the plughole" and "Alice where are you going". I'm assuming that most of you know "Miss Lucy [or some other name] Had A Baby", but for the record, I'll post an example from a Mudcat thread of what I believe is the standard version, and another example from a Mudcat thread of what I believe is a contemporary version of this rhyme. "Standard version": Subject: RE: Naughty kids' greatest hits II From: GUEST,Mrrzy-at-work - PM Date: 07 Apr 00 - 12:20 PM I saw on the older thread something about the alligator purse. We used to sing that one: Miss Lucy had a baby, she named him Tiny Tim, she put him in the bathtub to see if he could swim He ate up all the water, he drank up all the soap, he tried to eat the bathtub but it wouldn't go down his throat Miss Lucy called the doctor, miss Lucy called the nurse, miss Lucy called the lady with the alligator purse (now start singing faster and faster) In walked the doctor, in walked the nurse, in walked the lady with the alligator purse Measles said the doctor, mumps said the nurse, chickenpox said the lady with the alligator purse Out walked the doctor, out walked the nurse, out walked the lady with the alligator purse! This was done by 2 people who did a fancy hand-clapping thing along with it. ** "Contemporary version": Subject: RE: Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe! From: GUEST Date: 13 Apr 05 - 11:53 PM O_O This is sung to the tune of 'Miss Susie had a Steamboat' (and when I learned it, Miss Susie was Miss Mary) Miss Molly had a baby, The baby's name was Tim, She put him in a bathtub, To see if he could swim. He ate up all the water, He drank up all the soap, He woulda ate the bathtub but it wouldn't fit his throat! Miss Molly called the doctor, Miss Molly called the nurse, Miss Molly called the lady with the alligator purse! Measles said the doctor, Measles said the nurse, Pizza said the lady with the alligator purse! Miss Molly shot the doctor, Miss Molly stabbed the nurse, Miss Molly paid the lady with the alligator purse! ... Early '90's, Calgary, Canada ** So what do you think? Was "My baby got washed down the plughole" and "Alice where are you going" the source of Miss Lucy {Molly, Susie" etc} Had A Baby?" Which songs/rhymes came first? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 23 Dec 06 - 08:22 AM I'd guess Azizis rhyme has a separate origin - it fits in with the tradition of songs in which childcarers sing about the terrible things that might happen to a baby. (eg Way down yonder, down in the meadow, There's a poor little lamby, The bees and the butterflies peckin' out its eyes, The poor little thing cried mammy.) I remember somewhere that gorn dahn the plug'ole is supposed to be based on a true incident of something that happened in a communal washing facility where they had extra big plugholes. Which is a rather disturbing thought. But perhaps it was just something that nearly happened, or that the audience would recognise as something that might almost happen: Here is a slightly extended version, as recorded by Ginger Baker (of Cream): A mother was bathin' her baby one night The youngest of ten, a poor little mite The mother was fat and the baby was fin T'was nowt but a skellington wrapped up in skin The mother turned round for the soap from the rack She weren't gone a minute, but when she got back Her baby had gone, and in anguish she cried "Oh, where is my baby?", and the angels replied Your baby has gorn dahn the plug'ole Your baby has gorn dahn the plug The poor little thing was so skinny and thin He shoulda been bathed in a jug Your baby is perfik'ly happy He won't need no bathin' no more He's workin' his way through the sewers Not lost, just gone on before Your baby has gorn dahn the drainpipe And the chlorine is bad for his eyes He's havin' a swim, and it's healthy for him He needed the exercise Don't worry 'baht 'im, just be 'appy For I know he is suff'rin' no pain Your baby has gorn dahn the plug'ole Let's hope he don't stop up the drain ALTERNATE VERSE: Your baby is perfik'ly 'appy He won't need a bath any more He's muckin' abaht with the angels above Not lost but gone before |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,Ben Daglish Date: 05 Feb 07 - 11:44 AM Hi, I've always known different lyrics to this. The Cream version seems to be the most often quoted, but this is the version I got from my mum, who got it from John Foreman (the Broadsheet King) when he used to play in their folk club, early 1960's. She's pretty sure it's word-for-word as John did it, including the pronounciation (which I've rendered as well as I can), some of which ("h-angel", "wanished" etc.) suggests someone like Gus Elen, maybe. A mother was bafing 'er baby one night, poor little fing was a terrible sight, the mother was poor, and the baby was fin, only a skelington wrapped up in skin she only turned round for a minute, to get the soap off the rack, she only turned round for a minute, but, when she, turned back, 'er baby 'ad wanished completely, wanished completely away, 'er baby 'ad wanished completely, but she 'eard, a h'angel, say.... Your baby has gone darn the plug'ole Your baby has gone darn the plug 'E was much too small, to be bathed at all, 'e should 'ave been washed in a jug (or a mug) Your baby is perfectly 'appy, 'E won't need no barfin no more, Your baby is perfectly 'appy, my dear Not dead, just gorn, before. ------------ The tune is different as well, but rather than attempt an ABC version, I'll post it on the net somewhere soon. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Murray MacLeod Date: 05 Feb 07 - 03:37 PM it has to be said that the Cream version carries more of a punch, with that final line, "Let's hope he don't stop up the drain" |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,JTT Date: 06 Feb 07 - 03:33 AM Ah yes, heard Eric Clapton doing this in the Roundhouse around 1969 or 1971. He accompanied himself on a ukelele, which he then destroyed, Who-style. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Feb 07 - 03:38 PM I remember John Foreman singing that in Unity Theatre Folk Club. If there's a definitive version of anything (and I incline to think there isn't), that's the definitive version of this. Except I've a feeling that third verse isn't quite what John sang. But it's been a long time. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: SINSULL Date: 28 Feb 08 - 03:41 PM According to a web news site, some poor lady went into labor prematurely in India on a train. The baby went down the toilet (read hole) and fell on the tracks where he was recovered hours later unharmed. So many things wrong with this story. Let's start with toilets that empty onto tracks year after year after year... |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 28 Feb 08 - 10:47 PM Not a problem. That's how the original Australiamn railway carriages worked too. There used to be signs - even a song "Passengers will please refrain"... As to the dispopsal of the 'material' itself - well that's what the little furry critters that live in the Aussie bush are for.. :-) I'm not making this up, you know... |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Ross Campbell Date: 29 Feb 08 - 12:58 AM Passengers will please refrain is on mudcat. (UK trains too, up to a few years ago). More seriously, there have been a series of accidents involving children being badly injured or drowned when caught by the suction from bathing-pool drainage ducts. This link describes one such case. In the days of communal wash-houses, sinks and drains were built on a much larger scale than you would find in a modern house. Somebody in the case linked above suggests that these accidents are so bizarre-sounding as to be thought "urban legends" - sadly they are all too real, and similarly there may indeed be some incident that preceded the "gorn dahn the plughole" song. Ross |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: iancarterb Date: 29 Feb 08 - 01:18 AM The one I learned VERY young via my mother and father from the long line of Aussie, Kiwi and Brit Royal Navy that streamed through our house on Long Island during WWII is most nearly like that posted by cranky yankee: A mother was bathin' her bye-bee one night Youngest of ten and a poor little mite. The mother was poor and the bye-bee was thin Just like a skeleton wrapped up in skin. The mother turned round for the soap on the shelf And when she turned back she was all by herself. "Oh, where is my bye-bee in anguish she cried?" And as she was sobbin', the angels replied: "Your bye-bee is gone down the plug 'ole, "Your bye-bee is gone down the plug. "Poor little devil was awfully thin, " 'T ought to 've been bathed in a jug. "Your bye-bee is perfectly 'appy "'Twon't need a bath any more. "Your bye-bee is gone up to 'evvin "Not lost, but just gone before. Carter Bannerman |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: pavane Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:28 AM According to one web site, this was the FIRST solo song recorded by Martin Carthy (I haven't checked the link above). I still have a recording of John Foreman singing it in a club around 1972, so I could probably decipher his words. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: pavane Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:11 AM I have now uploaded John Foreman's performance to a private area of my web site. To listen or download, go to http://www.chappuzeau.net click the link for Private area enter the password pontardawe (How original!) (I have also uploaded Treble Tail Gypsies - see other thread) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice Date: 29 Feb 08 - 04:09 PM YOUR BABY HAS GONE DOWN THE PLUGHOLE (A MOTHER'S LAMENT) (Writer Unknown - London Music Hall Song)) Martin Carthy - 1964 Cream (vocal: Ginger Baker)- 1967 (as A Mother's Lament) A mother was bathin' her baby one night The youngest of ten, a poor little mite The mother was fat and the baby was fin T'was nawt but a skellington wrapped up in skin The mother turned round for the soap from the rack She weren't gone a minute, but when she got back Her baby had gone, and in anguish she cried "Oh, where is my baby?", and the angels replied Your baby has gorn dahn the plug'ole Your baby has gorn dahn the plug The poor little thing was so skinny and thin He shoulda been bathed in a jug Your baby is perfik'ly happy He won't need no bathin' no more He's workin' his way through the sewers Not lost, just gone on before Your baby has gorn dahn the drainpipe And the chlorine is bad for his eyes He's havin' a swim, and it's healthy for him He needed the exercise Don't worry 'baht 'im, just be 'appy For I know he is suff'rin' no pain Your baby has gorn dahn the plug'ole Let's hope he don't stop up the drain ALTERNATE VERSE: Your baby is perfik'ly 'appy He won't need a bath any more He's muckin' abaht with the angels above Not lost but gone before Charlotte (it would have to be a VERY large plug'ole to lose my children) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 29 Aug 08 - 07:31 PM Saw a 'Poirot' (A. Christie) shoe last night - one of the characters keeps singing this - it refers (in the show) to a lady having an abortion. I assume this is just the fiction of the story, but... I have never come across this concept for this song before - any comments? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 29 Aug 08 - 08:08 PM What Kilgarriff says: "Your Baby 'as Gown Dahn the Plug-'Ole." (Spade) DAS/CCC. 1944. Elsa Lanchester. From "Ditties from the Ditty Box." Jack Spade, a composite pseudonym of Elton Box, Desmond Cox and Lewis Ilda, the last-named being the publisher Irwin Dash. "It seems likely that this song is a burlesque with no authenic traditional origin. It was recorded by Elsa Lanchester in 1951. The U. S. version, "Your Baby Has Gone Down the Drainpipe," is by Morey Amsterdam: Kay Patrick (FEL/DFH, 1946). Michael Kilgarriff, 1998, "Sing Us One of the Old Songs," A Guide to Popular Song 1860-1920. Oxford Univ. Press |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: Gurney Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:29 AM I've sung that as 'should have been bathed in a jug or a tin... which rhymes. A tin being English English for a can. Also, Bath...d not Bathe..d |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE DRAINPIPE SONG (Amsterdam, Patrick) From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 Sep 08 - 12:39 PM Here's an interesting adaptation of this traditional(?) cockney song for an American audience. Shay seems to be making some effort to produce a cockney accent, but she does it so badly I have not bothered to represent her pronunciation with my spelling.
THE DRAINPIPE SONG (YOUR BABY HAD GONE DOWN THE DRAINPIPE)
A mother was washing her baby one night,
"Oh, where, oh, where is my baby?" she cried.
"Your baby has gone down the drainpipe.
"Your baby has gone down the drainpipe, |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My baby got washed down the plughole From: GUEST,My name isn't Anna May, but who is checking Date: 27 Feb 10 - 11:47 PM Nah... nothing to do with babies.. at least not the one my classmates yelled at me when I was in 12th grade, 5'9" tall, 102 lbs (American that is)... and this version is short: "Anna May, where are you going" "Upstairs to take a bath." Anna May with legs like toothpicks, A neck like a giraffe. Anna May gets in the bathtub, Anna May pulls out the plug, "O my goodness, o my soul! There goes Anna May, down the hole! Anna May! Anna May!" "Glug" The happy ending is that when I was 17 a photographer saw me, took some pictures, and lo and behold! whew.. became a New York photographer's fashon model for a few years! (No, don't ask my age now. I like and lie and lie.. lolol) |
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