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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 05:17 PM

Get your homemade cookies at Caitrin's MUDCAT PARK!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Caitrin
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 10:11 PM

Just one question, Threadie...
Why?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Mark Clark
Date: 10 Apr 00 - 07:08 PM

Not only that but importing the image causes the MIDI link to be left behind; we don't get to hear what it sounds like.

- Mark


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Tony Burns
Date: 10 Apr 00 - 08:32 PM

Oh darn!

You've got me blushing Joe.

I really have to learn to prof read.

Thanks for the correction.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Apr 00 - 08:42 PM

...and now you're tempting me to learn tables, Tony. I need help bad in the Glossary of Scottish Words thread. John in Brisbane sent it to me as a nice table in a Word document. When I used Word to change it into an HTML file, it came up to over 6 megabytes, far too large to post. Can anybody figure out how to make the glossary into an HTML table that doesn't take up a lot of space?
Feel Free to copy John's glossary and post it again in the same thread. I'll delete all but the best one.
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Mark Clark
Date: 12 Apr 00 - 03:17 PM

Ignore the man behind the curtain. He's just playing.

<a href="http://urlstring">visible text</a>


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: lloyd64
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 01:06 AM

sorry, What did YOU start?

Will a second line work?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 01:40 AM

Jonny, my boy, you are so naughty! (big grin) After all, El Papa Joe will clean this up, right?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 13 Apr 00 - 06:58 AM

Which other stuff? Is there any stuff outside the Mudcat Cafe? I can't remember anything else but the Mudcat for the last few years... ;-)
There are some previous threads about Mudcat addiction. Look for them the same way as for the html threads.
cu,
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 25 Apr 00 - 09:12 AM

Jon, I know myself pretty good (for almost 34 years now), that's how I know I am not katlaughing!

TextPad is really good, I use it for some years now (licensed!). There are also some good add-ons on their home-page (e.g. a little program that calls textpad whenever the system wants to open notepad).
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Jed at Work
Date: 18 May 00 - 11:46 AM

first line
last line


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Noreen
Date: 26 May 00 - 05:45 PM

try again

A Heart Needs a Home (Richard Thompson)


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 27 May 00 - 08:25 AM

Noreen, the slash / at the end of an URL indicates that the URL is a directory (= file folder). In that case the webserver looks for a default file in that folder (usually that is index.html).
There is no file folder called thread.cfm?threadid=11671 in the mudcat home folder, so your first two links failed.
In your case, the url points to a file (called thread.cfm) and it gets parameters (threadid=11671).
HTH
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 04:01 PM

Jon,
you need to put <br> to the ends of lines even in <tt> sections. The tt tag only tells the browser to use a typewriter font (a non-proportional one). You'd have to use it even in a <pre> section, but this is not due to html but due to the Mudcat input box - all line feeds are stripped from the input.

Noreen, I think I will forgive you, but only if you promise not to do it again!
And if I really can't stand it any longer, I might ask Joe to edit the marquee out of your post.

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 10:47 AM

This is in bold text.
This is in italic text.
This is in bold italic text.
This text is underlined.
This is big text.
This is small text.
This text is big and underlined.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Noreen
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 11:03 AM

OK, I know, I'll try again

This is in bold text.
This is in italic text.
This is in bold italic text.
This text is underlined.
This is big text.
This is small text.
This text is big and underlined


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: BlueJay
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 01:02 PM

Ok, I'm just guessing at most of this:



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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: BlueJay
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 01:09 PM

Hmmm, nothing happenned at all. Trying to do bold, italics and underline. I'm only guessing, but like for bold, I started with less than, B/ then the word, ending with greater than. Didn't work. Maybe it's


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 01:31 PM

Jay, its less than, B greater than, then the word.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: BlueJay
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 01:31 PM

OK, Bold
Underline
Italic
Italics underlined


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 02:53 AM

Noreen,
regarding your 1:02PM post:
<B/Bold><BR> <I/Italics><BR> <U/Unterline><BR> <BIU/Bold Italics, underlined>
The only html tags in that line of yours are the <BR>.
For bold text, enclose the text in <b>your bold text</b>
For italic text, enclose the text in <i>your italic text</i>
For underlined text, enclose the text in <u>your underlined text</u>

You can combine these, for example <b><i>your bold italic text</i></b>

If you wonder why the tags show in my example, i put them in twice. Once normal to get the effect, and once with the < and > replaced by &lt; and &gt;.

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Noreen
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 09:13 AM

You confused me there, MudGuard, but after studying your post I think you must be referring to BlueJay's post @1.02pm.
I seem to have have got this limited amount of HTML sussed, not to mention the marquee... you said not to mention the marquee!

Two more things though while you're here; thanks for explaining how to make the tags show, and howdid you see what html had been written in BlueJay's post, when it didn't show up?

Thanks>

Noreen


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Wolfgang
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 09:26 AM

How to see what doesn't show? In Netscape: ctrlU

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Snuffy
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 07:28 PM

In Internet Explorer ALT+V C (View Source)


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 02:13 AM

Noreen,
sorry if I confused you. This was not my intention. It is my fault - even me is not perfect!. I answered to BlueJays html code addressing you. I think when I looked up the name of the poster I just looked one post further up then I should have.
I promise not to do it again (at least not intentionally) - hope you will forgive me ;-)

I did never say you must not mention the marquee. It is okay to mention it if you damn it ;-).

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Noreen
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 05:52 AM

Thank you, Wolfgang and Snuffy.

MudGuard:

Unconditionally forgiven.

No more marquees.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 09:02 AM

As most of this has been answered before, here just the link to More of the HTML stuff. If this is not enough, search the forum for HTML and you will find some more threads about HTML.
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Mark Clark
Date: 30 Jun 00 - 01:02 AM

Here are the lyrics to "Coot From Tennessee." I copied these down from the Greenbriar Boys' record but I'm afraid, on my old copy at least, some of the words are pretty hard to make out. I've numbered each line so I can easily refer back and give other possibilities for the words on that line.

Coot From Tennessee

  1. I know an old coot from Tennessee,
  2. Lord, wicked as he could be,
  3. He didn't even believe in Church or Sunday School,
  4. All he believed was to socialize,
  5. Having him a good time all his life,
  6. Well he broke up the congregation when he stood.

    Chorus:
  7. Sayin' I'm gonna live and how until I die,
  8. This life I'm livin' it's so very high,
  9. Sticks and stones gonna break my bones,
  10. Will you talk about me when I'm dead and gone,
  11. I'm gonna live and how until I die.

  12. Now he went to Church last Sunday morn,
  13. Everybody in the world was there but one,
  14. Would you hear those mourners sing and pray,
  15. When the choir begun to sing,
  16. Every bell in the steeple started to shake and ring,
  17. But he broke up the congregation when he said.

    Chorus:
  18. I'm gonna run me a cemetery of my own,
  19. If you don't leave my sweet gal alone,
  20. Gonna buy me a razor, gonna scrape the blade,
  21. Gonna lay some son-of-a-gun in the shade,
  22. Oh, I'm gonna run me a cemetery of my own.

    Final chorus:
  23. I'm gonna live and how until I die,
  24. This life I'm livin' it's so very high,
  25. Sticks and stones gonna break my bones,
  26. Well I know you're gonna think about me when I'm gone,
  27. I'm gonna live and how until I die.



Possible errors are as follows:

Line 7 is probably wrong but the words above are the only ones that make any sense. The line is garbled but probably ends in some kind of an "ard" sylable like "bard."

Line 8 may then end in the word "hard."

Line 11 should match whatever translation is used for line 7.

Line 14 may not begin with the word "would." The word is passed over very quickly so I'm not sure.

Line 16 actually sounds as if they are singing "Little Billy in the steeple.." but that makes no sense so I imagine what I've used is what they're actually singing.

Lines 23 and 27 have the same problems as lines 7 and 11.

If anyone knows for certain what the questionable words should be, please post them. I'd rather have it be correct if it's headed for the data base.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 10 Jul 00 - 04:41 AM

RichM,
badly copied! To turn off bold, it needs </b>, not <b>!
And all three of your marquees are incorrect (even if the last one might look correct! But as I disencourage use of the internet explorer specific marquee (as well as the netscape specific blink) I won't tell you what is wrong with them!
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: RichM
Date: 10 Jul 00 - 10:38 AM

Um...thanks...I think... This reminds of Wordperfect, and its "reveal codes"...

I think I will wait till technology catches up...


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Mark Clark
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 01:20 AM

  Now is the time  for all good men
to come to the aid
of the party


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 03:39 AM

Sorry, gotta try it.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 04:20 AM

So, CarolC - Does it Work? Joe Offer


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 05:37 AM

JOE! YOU'RE MAKING ME CROSSEYED!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 06:05 AM

Don't they work in Netscape?
I was just looking at this thread in Netscape and non of that moving multicoloured stuff was happening - WHY???


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 06:13 AM

...one more thing
can you put in moving links?
like a shooting range?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 06:44 AM

Yes and no Roger, you can put a link in a Marquee but clicking anywhere on the line will activate the link - you don't have to hit the words.

The other thing to note about marquees in apart from being irritating, they are an Internet Explorer extension to HTML. They won't work with other browers like Netscape. Netscape have blink instead.

Jon


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,Roger in Netscape
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 07:48 AM

Thanks John
this HTML stuff gets more and more confusing
So how about Opera? does that have its own querks too?
roger


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 08:14 AM

Roger, I only dabble with HTML. I haven't got time to search right now but there is an HTML standard (in fact more than one as HTML has been "upgraded"). All browsers designed to adhere to that version of the standard should behave in a consistent and defined manner but anything outside such as Netscapes blink, IE's marquee may or may not work in another browser.

The same applies to errors in HTML. It is down to the browser to decide how to handle them.

With regard to the versions, as an example, older browsers do not support frames and these issues need to be considered when designing a web site. Personally, I would err towards compatibility and I think that is what Max does with Mudcat - IMO it is better to have something relatively simple that is accessible to everybody than to use all the latest all singing and dancing features and find that you are excluding a large number of people who would like to access your site.

One final comment, if you ever do attempt to design a web site, test it on whatever browser you have available before putting it on the web. It is easy to make a mistake that will not show up on one browser but will cause problems or not work with another.

Jon


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,roger in Opera
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 08:22 AM

Thanks John
Those marquees don't show here either
Roger


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Pene Azul
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 08:28 AM

Standards, etc. from W3C: HyperText Markup Language Home Page


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 10:43 AM

Thanks Pene it looks complicated but I will look through it
A couple more things though if anyone can help
How do I put sound into webpages?
and do pages load top down? If so can I put a sound file at the bottom of the page so that the text can be read while the sound loads?

Roger


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Pene Azul
Date: 27 Aug 00 - 12:22 PM

Embedding Sound in Web Pages from WebReference.com, a very useful site.

Jeff


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Quincy
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 08:39 AM

Click here


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Quincy
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 08:50 AM

Yeeeessssssss!!!! First attempt at a blue clicky thing and it worked!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: wildlone
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 02:48 PM

as Joe pointed out I should have used a link to a page I found yesterday so I will try and see if this works
click .


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: wildlone
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 02:56 PM

That seemed to work okay lets try a link to the re-enactment group I belong to. Due to the way that the site is made it can take a long time to load.
The Royal Welch.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:26 PM


Please Note Important Message



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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Terry K
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 12:29 AM

Here goes nothing - Map of LLanstock


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Terry K
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 12:34 AM

Map of LLanstock


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 09:47 AM

Roses are red,
Blickies are blue
Can I make a line-break Or 'cos I can't make a rhyme?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Sep 00 - 07:21 AM

Test


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: campfire
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:38 PM

Try this

Angel From Montgomery

campfire


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: campfire
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:41 PM

Try again... Angel from Montgomery


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: campfire
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:42 PM

Try again... Angel from Montgomery


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Subject: Guitar Tab?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 10:49 PM

                      C                                   Ab                E                |  0              |                 |                 |  B                |                 |                 |                 |  G                |                 |  0              |  1              |  D                |      2       2  |      2       2  |      1       1  |  A         0   2  |  3              |  3              |  3              |  E     3          |          3      |          3      |          4      |  

                      C                                   A                                  |  0              |                 |                 |                   |                 |                 |                 |                   |                 |  0              |  2              |        1       1  |      2       2  |      2       2  |      2       2  |    3              |  3              |  3              |  0              |            4      |          3      |          3      |          0      |  


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Subject: Try Again
From: Mark Clark
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 10:55 PM

                      C                                   Ab              
E | 0 | | |
B | | | |
G | | 0 | 1 |
D | 2 2 | 2 2 | 1 1 |
A 0 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
E 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 |


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 06:44 AM

  Hello there.  I am just testing something out for my own information -  Checking out a formatting command.  Please do not take much notice of this bunch of drivel.  


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 12:45 PM

problem with pre tag is that the linebreaks do not even reach the server - they are taken out before the browser sends the content of the window to the server as the textarea has the wrap attribute set to "soft"
MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 13 Apr 01 - 08:40 PM

If you are still reading this stuff
Can you explain to a reasonably
intelligent bod what gets lost where
and why??? Preferably in a for which I might understand!

I was led to believe that by using the "pre" tag in "<" brackets would leave text formatted elsewhere with paragraph breaks intact when it appeared on screen. Am I mistaken or is it just something which does not work with Mudcat?
Line Breaks <br> added. Mudcat is set to ignore carriage returns in all cases except double-spacing (two carriage returns in a row). The <pre> affects most things, but not line breaks. It's set to ignore carriage returns because there are some problems associated connected with accepting them. I saw the bad advice you must have read, but didn't have time to post an explanation.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Louie Roy
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:11 AM

Joe Offer This is where I get my feet wet
I hope that I read your instructions right
If this turns out the way it is suppose to
I will be sharing a lot of info with others
If not I am just practicing the way I anyway
Anyway let me know allthe mistakes I've Made


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Louie Roy
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:18 AM

Old mother Hubbard went to the cubbard
To get her poor daughter a dress
But when she got there the cubbard was bare
And so was her daughter I guess


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Mark Clark
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:34 AM

Goeff,

If you were building your own Web page, the <pre> tag would indeed cause everything to display just as it looked when you entered it. For Mudcat posts, however, any hard return all by itself—separate lines with no intervening blank line—is stripped out causing the lines to flow together when viewed. If there are two or more hard returns in a row—one or more blank lines—they are replaced with a <p> tag. You can observe me discovering this fact just eight posts above this one.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 01 - 12:35 AM

Really LR???

Old Mother Hubbard
Went to the cupboard
To get her poor dog a bone.
But when she bent over,
Rover came over,
And HE had a bone of his OWN!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 12:11 PM

blicky


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 18 Apr 01 - 11:20 PM

Here is some text above the table.

Left

Center

Right

Top

One

Two

Three

Middle

Four

Five

Six

Bottom

Seven

Eight

Nine

Here is some text below the table.

Text line
text line

chorus line
chorus line
text line


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Tiger
Date: 21 Apr 01 - 01:19 PM

Testing, testing, testing
1 2 3
Testing, testing, testing
1 2 3


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Tiger
Date: 21 Apr 01 - 01:22 PM

    Testing, testing, testing
1 2 3


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 21 Apr 01 - 01:36 PM

Within pre, tt is usually not necessary as most browsers use a nonproportional font anyway.

But it does not hurt to use tt as well.

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Tiger
Date: 21 Apr 01 - 01:53 PM

    :s1  |s1   :m  :m   |m    :r    :r |r  :-.d    :d  |d   :-
Oh! Ma - ry! this Lon - don's a won - der - ful sight,

:t1 .l1 |l1 :s1 :s1 |s1 :l1 :t1 |r :d :-.d |d :- Wid the peo - ple here work - in' by day and by night;


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 22 Apr 01 - 08:18 AM

Just practicing.
To boldly go, where no man has gone before


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 22 Apr 01 - 08:21 AM

To boldly go, where no man has gone before.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Bernard
Date: 22 Apr 01 - 01:37 PM

 ~  ~
O..O
  W

 ~  ~
O..O
  W

 ~  ~
O..O
  W

 ~  ~
O..O
  W

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O..O
  W

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O..O
  W

 ~  ~
O..O
  W

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O..O
  W

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O..O
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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 06:34 AM

the marquee is not HTML, it is Microsoft's invention and will work only in Microsoft browsers. Similarly, blink is a netscape invention and only works in Netscape browsers.

both pseudo-tags should not be used on web-pages, not only because they are not HTML, but also because they are annoying!

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Bernard
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 09:22 AM

Just having a laff!

They look daft enough in Netscape, so I didn't bother with the blink...

They can be quite mesmerising... the different text sizes make them move 'randomly'!

I used <table width="75%"> so that it adjusts to your screen width for maximum annoyance!!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: RichM
Date: 23 Apr 01 - 11:56 AM

Crazy Eddie, Picard should have said

Tobaldly go, where no man has gone before


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 24 Apr 01 - 08:11 AM

RichM,
Good one. :o)
Though I think to boldly go where no man has gone before, had been updated to to boldly go where no-one has gone before, by the time Pickard arrived on the scene.
And just to try something else Enterprise and Klingon


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 24 Apr 01 - 08:17 AM

Hmmm....
Enterprise
Klingon

Hows that?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 24 Apr 01 - 08:29 AM

Check Hello Hello Hello!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 24 Apr 01 - 08:32 AM

Hello again without the check this time


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Apr 01 - 03:23 PM

to boldly go where no man has gone before - the ladies' toilet?

Btw, I hate marquee. Was that named after the Marquee de Sade?

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Bernard
Date: 24 Apr 01 - 03:38 PM

Or the Refreshments Marquee? Give me a good beer tent any day!! Then again, who needs the tent...


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 04:31 AM

Bernard, please!

Without the tent, the rain dilutes the beer. Not a happy outcome!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 04:33 PM

"Is this how you do quotation marks??"


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,iamjohnne
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 05:09 PM

here i go

trying to get the gist of this

this is a test

it is only a test


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,iamjohnne
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 05:12 PM

well at least i got that part right

I am not even gonna try all the moving stuff yet

Johnne

"goin where the weather suits my clothes"


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Armen Tanzerian
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 11:35 PM

Zingo.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 06:40 AM

JOE OFFER:
RE: SCOTTISH GLOSSARY

I don't know whether it might be an improvement, but there seems to be a potential 3 to 1 reduction in file size if the Scottish Glossary is formatted as a Dictionary entry rather than as a table.

My wimpmobile machine (Win98, 64MB) wouldn't convert the whole thread in one pass, but did it in two.
My attempt to send the resulting 456K file broke off at about 50K, but there seems to be some reduction in total file size. I certainly didn't get multiMegs.

I'll forgo further messing with it, until I hear from some experts about whether this is an improvement, but I can provide fairly detailed description of the approach used.

PM me if it looks like it might be helpful, or ignore if not.

I'm off to Winfield in a few days, so may be out of touch after next weekend.

John


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 08:27 PM

"Quotation marks in HTML?"


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Mark Clark
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 06:55 PM

Ah yes... quotation marks. Here on Mudcat we can simply type the double quote symbol in simple text posting and it will be displayed as we intend. Sometimes, like in the middle of a hyperlink tag, it's best to enter a double quote by using it's HTML name, &quot. That way it won't be confused with the " symbol used to deliniate the URL in the HREF attribute of the anchor (<a...></a>) tag.

The HTML name &quot produces two small vertical tick marks, not a real set of typesetter's quotation marks. Often, when I wish to place quotes around some text in a post, I'll use the HTML names &ldquo and &rdquo which produce “proper” quotation marks more in keeping with the Roman font.

Cheers,

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Mark Clark
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 07:15 PM

Well, I didn't anticipate that the semi-colons would disappear in my previous post. I don't have a handy HTML name for a semi-colon so I'll just use &#59; to represent the semi-colon since its decimal value in the ASCII representation is 59.

The HTML names I mentioned above should have appeared with terminating semi-colons as follows:

&quot; produces "
&ldquo; produces “
&rdquo; produces ”
&#35; produces #
and of course &#59; produces ;.

I hope that's clear.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: RichM
Date: 27 Jan 05 - 02:26 PM


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jan 05 - 02:27 PM


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 12:47 PM

FF3399
so if i want the text to be large,bold and this color,
what do i do??
FF3399

and then what do i do to make it move around?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Cluin
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 12:52 PM


You mean like this?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:09 PM

yes, like this?
like that..


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:10 PM

You mean like this?

not just copy and paste...


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:12 PM



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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:13 PM

ok i got the color part down now,,


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:14 PM



100


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:16 PM



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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:17 PM


You mean like this?



uses an "H1" bracket for the sise and a "<"FONT COLOR = #FF##(( for the color.

Let's see if it works...ok. Now, what if we add a "marquee" in brackets...


You mean like this?




Ah, most satisfactory. The left side of the containers is marquee, h1, fon t color, bold. Then the text. Then the right side closing brackets for bold, font, h1, and marquee.

A


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:38 PM

color=FF3399


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: open mike
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:50 PM



badk to the drawing board..

thank for trying to help

but i think i am missing

basic information here..

i can figure out how to use tyhe blickifire

i mean blickifier...but that is the extent of it i guess..

if i could cut and paste code i might get it..


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 01:52 PM

gotta try this out


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 02:36 PM

1. The text to be modified is typically placed in a container, which means a beginning of the desired effect on th eleft, and an end on the right. So if you were trying to bold the text, it wold go:

[b]the text[/b]

The b starts the bolding and the "/b" ends it. If you use angle brackets < and >, only!!

What you would get is the text.

The commands vanish and the text shows the effect.

For a font color you would make a container defining the color like this:

[font color=red]the text[/font]



which if you used angle brackets would look like this:


the text

Does that make sense? You can then put one container inside another to double up on effects:

[b][font color=red]the text[/font][/b]

would produce (using angle brackets):

the text.

See? Adding a third container to make it italic woud look like this:

[i][b][font color=red]the text[/font][/b][/i]

which produces (using angle brackets):

the text.

Regards,






A


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:19 PM

i bet this doesn't work.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:21 PM

amos why didn't it come out pink. Do you actually haveto write font colour, or just pink? I wrote font colour=pink and put it in angle brackets?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:23 PM

YOU LOSE!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:32 PM

say that in pink!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:32 PM

color.

html speaks US-ese


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:33 PM

grrr


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:33 PM

YOU LOSE!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:35 PM

<font color=pink>Guest, it throws me sometimes... You need to spell colour the American way - color</font>


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:35 PM

if at first I don't succeed


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:36 PM

by jove I think I've got it!!!!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:38 PM

ok so why didn't it blink!!!!! i told it to blink!!!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:48 PM

not given up yet.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 03:50 PM

last try


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 04:10 PM

Guest, all your blink examples work. You might not see it because of the browser you use. It was non standard HTML provided by Netscape. Microsoft had marquee instead.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 04:16 PM

[marquee][b]

[h3][font color=navy]CONGRATULATIONS!![/font]

[/h3]
[/b]


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:04 PM

amos stop confusing me!, What is h3? thanks for your patience chapswish i could see my handiwork though. yes jon i have microsoft?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:10 PM

blinky blinky blink blink


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:13 PM

YEAH oh yeah...thanks!!!!


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:16 PM

sorry last time honest,just seeing if it can go bigger


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:20 PM

Guest, 2 of the big players in the browser game got into competition to see who could claim power by providing the most irritating feature that only thier browser supported...

If you really want to know more about marquee, etc. try Mudguard here but ask him nicely.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:21 PM

i am putting in h8, thinking it is bigger than h3, but it has all gone horribly wrong?


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 05:25 PM

OK I'll settle for it moving and looking purply.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Cluin
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 06:31 PM

MARQUEE is a stupid tag. BLINK is another.

One works in Internet Explorer, the other works in Netscape.
I don't know which work, if at all, in Mozilla or Firefox.
But small loss if they don't.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 07:19 PM

Cliun firefox 1.0 on Suse 9.2 here. Both tags are working.


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 11:29 PM

I can't do "blink" in Internet Explorer, but I can do "marquee" :-)


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Jan 05 - 11:38 PM

I can't do "blink" in Internet Explorer, but I can do "marquee" :-)

I can do "blink" and "marquee" in Mozilla :-)


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Subject: RE: HTML practice thread
From: Cluin
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 07:46 AM


Your post contains a forbidden HTML tag.


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