Subject: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Kelida Date: 05 Apr 00 - 12:51 AM I have a friend who just got bagpipes and that made me think of this song. I've only found 1 or 2 versions of it, but I want to find at least a couple more so I can write an arranged version of it for singing. If anyone knows any versions of it or where some would be available, that would be great. Thanx. Peace-- Keli |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Sorcha Date: 05 Apr 00 - 01:11 AM I have only heard one basic version of this, in just slightly different settings/keys, but I did find lyrics here |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: alison Date: 05 Apr 00 - 03:08 AM there is a parody called "Scotland Depraved" which I think was in a thread a while back but a filter search didn't find it.... slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: MMario Date: 05 Apr 00 - 10:00 AM Then there is "I need a sheep" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Wavestar Date: 05 Apr 00 - 10:31 AM Errr... Scotland's Depraved... amusing for one verse, maybe two, certainly no more than. *shudder* -J |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Mbo Date: 05 Apr 00 - 11:32 AM Let me tell you, K--you absolutely MUST hear Dougie MacLean sing "Scots Wha Hae" on his album "Tribute." It is, in my opinion, the best version of the song ever! His version is the one I base mine on...actually has a nice electric guitar solo in there...when I play the song on my pipe chanter, I play the solo as part of the song, it adds some interesting contrast. Of course, "Scots Wha Hae" also sounds DARN RULIN' on the pipes as well! Sounds like it's going fun to do! Good luck! You can hear a sound clip of Dougie singing it here.
I could send you a .RM of the whole song later today. --Mbo |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Mbo Date: 05 Apr 00 - 11:37 AM OOOH! Just heard this--by a band called "The Reevers" check it out here! --Mbo |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Mbo Date: 05 Apr 00 - 11:46 AM ARG!!!Well, there goes Stunod Boy for ya again! Just realized you were lookinf for "Scotland The Brave" not "Scots Wha Hae"....I'm losing it! --Mbo |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: MMario Date: 05 Apr 00 - 11:54 AM Mbo - slow down, take a deep breath, exhale...remember being wenched by 25 women...you DID keep your eyes open, didn't you? |
Subject: Lyr Add: SCOTLAND THE BRAVE (from John McDermott) From: Marki Date: 05 Apr 00 - 06:25 PM Hi! It's been a LONG time.... The best version of STB that I know is one that John McDermott sings. Pretty much the same tune, but the lyrics are WAY better than the norm. I don't think that these alternate lyrics are on The Mudcat. I'll try post them tomorrow (after I go home, look them up etc.). It start off tho' with:
Let Italy boast of her gay gilded waters, (And then something like--)
Scotland’s blue mountains wild, But yeah, I'll get all the words for ya. They're a lot more meaningful and majestic (& make more sense that what I've written here) than the common version. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 05 Apr 00 - 06:42 PM O'Donnell Abu is the Irish version. I believe it's older, but who cares? Anyway the tune is essentially the same.
Sing Scotland the brave in Scots and then in Scots Gaelic, and sing O'Donnell Abu in English and then in Irish Gaelic, and you've got quite enough variation to be going on with.
The links are to the DT versions of both songs. Finding the gaelic versions shouldn't be too hard - someone will probably come up with a pointer from here sooner or later. Singing them might be more of a problem. Easier than playing the pipes though. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Sandy Paton Date: 05 Apr 00 - 10:21 PM Anyone familiar with the obscene text sung to the tune? -- the one that begins: There was a lassie wi' a big, hairy bessie, Wha' was drivin' her auld mither's coo tae the bull. My Scottish source now lives in the US and probably would prefer to remain anonymous. Sandy |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: John in Brisbane Date: 06 Apr 00 - 07:53 PM Keli, just need to check what you were realling chasing? There are scads of songs which have used STB as the tune - just as Wearin Of The Green/Rosin the Bow were likewise the platform for lots of new lyrics. But I get the impression that you were seeking variations in the tune for STB? Regards, John |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Calach Date: 07 Apr 00 - 01:51 PM WILL ALL YOU EX-PATS STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE YOURSELVES THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT FOLK MUSIC IS ON THE WEB??????? SOMETIMES THERE'S TRUE FOLK SINGERS LIKE ME SPREADING THE GOSPEL ORALLY Deep breath in, sorry guys, it's just that sometimes you chase yourselves up your own backsides trying to get to the root of the problem when it isn't necessary or correct. Calach |
Subject: Lyr Add: SCOTLAND THE BRAVE (parody from Corries) From: GUEST,Uwe Schmidt Date: 07 Apr 00 - 01:57 PM I heard these words from the famous Scottish band "The Corries.” Not all words are correct, because I cannot understand all. Perhaps anybody else could correct. Uwe Schmidt, Germany SCOTLAND THE BRAVE (parody from Corries) Land o' the purple heather, Land o' the dirty weather, Land where the ridges gather, Scotland the brave. Land o' the Pakistanis, Andy Capp and Saturday's Sannies Land where they sell their grannies, Scotland the brave.
Used to say in Father's day,
Land that is full of skivers,
Tourists come here every year
Land o' the kilt and sporran'
Conservatives strike to assure us
Hark, when the night is falling,
Towering in gallant fame, |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Jeri Date: 07 Apr 00 - 02:50 PM Hamish Henderson's "The John MacClean March" is to the slightly altered first part of StB. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Kelida Date: 07 Apr 00 - 10:24 PM John in Brisbane- The tune is fairly simple and easily arranged or embellished, but I've heard several different versions of the lyrics. However, I can't seem to find recordings to listen to, so I was wondering if anyone had any they could provide. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Eluned Date: 07 Apr 00 - 10:37 PM There are a lot more "versions" of just the lyrics than I realized! Bits of that Corries version are inspired....would that be the Corrie Folk Trio or am I thinking of the wrong group? Kelida, just to maybe get you a clearer answer, were you simply looking for a different musical arrangement, or did you want some different (serious) lyrics as well? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Kelida Date: 07 Apr 00 - 10:39 PM Different serious lyrics would be great. Then again, I wouldn't be opposed to a few more funny versions. . .I still giggle about that version by the Corries. . . |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Calach Date: 08 Apr 00 - 08:09 AM Corrie folk trio and paddie bell, then corrie folk duo and paddie bell, then when she left, it was just the corries JUST THE MAINSTAY IN SCOTTISH FOLK MUSIC FOR 20 YESRS Then Roy Williamson wrote varios songs inc FLOWER OF SCOTLAND, THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, and sadly died before realising the import of his song. YUP those corries! |
Subject: Lyr Add: SCOTLAND THE BRAVE (Cliff Hanley) From: Calach Date: 08 Apr 00 - 08:14 AM THE REAL LYRICS BY CLIFF HANLEY
Scotland the Brave
Hark when the night is falling
Chorus Towering in gallant fame
High in the misty highlands
Chorus |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Apr 02 - 08:24 AM The site that Sorcha linked to has one more verse than the version provided by Calach. Copied from http://www-cui.darmstadt.gmd.de/~everts/scotland.html :
Far off in sunlit places, |
Subject: Lyr Add: SCOTLAND'S DEPRAVED (filk) From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Apr 02 - 10:19 AM There are lots of variants of this song on the Web. I didn't read them all, but I read a few and tried to consolidate them. I think this qualifies as a "filk" song. Sometimes I think there's more "filk" on the web than folk. Can't say that I really like this song, but it's an interesting example of the genre, and of how the folk process is working today. SCOTLAND'S DEPRAVED
Bring out the whiskey, Mother. [In subsequent verses, substitute any of the following couplets for lines 1-2 or 4-5. I've put them in alphabetical order for lack of a better organizing scheme.]
Bring me a little rabbit
Bring me the PVC pipe
Bring out a Bengal Lancer,
Bring out my favourite fellow.
Bring out my little brother.
Bring out my little poochie.
Bring out my little sister.
Bring out my Uncle Neddie,
Bring out the chains and leather.
Bring out the chimpanzees-es.
Bring out the platypuses.
Bring out the preacher's daughter.
Call out the Glasgow bobbies.
Dollies inflatable,
Gerbils don't make it, Mother.
God knows I really wanna.
God knows I wanna disco.
God knows I'm really randy.
I'm as horny as a klaxon.
One food ya gotta shag is
Slip on a gutted trout
Swine, donkeys, sheep and cattle,
When I'm with my little terrier
[Variants for line 3:]
[Variants for line 6:] |
Subject: Lyr Add: SCOTLAND'S DEPRAVED II (filk?) From: Jim Dixon Date: 27 Apr 02 - 10:40 AM Here's an unrelated song (except for the ending) that uses the same title, at least on the "filk" sites where I found it. If this is truly a "filk" song, and not merely plagiarized from some other source, then it is much better than the run of the mill. Copied from http://amtgard.pinkpig.com/bards/filk2.htm
SCOTLAND'S DEPRAVED
There was a bonnie lassie, and she had brothers three.
"For you're a highborn Scottish lass, of noble highland birth,
"We'll set him tests of honor," the brothers they declared,
The first contest was golfing, in which the lord did fine.
The second one was piping, in which he held his own.
The next trial was sword dancing, with bare feet and bare sword,
The fourth contest was drinking. The knight showed them his stuff.
The fifth and final contest, this valiant knight was told,
When the trials were over, her kin said, "Sister dear,
"Begone, you silly spendthrift, to you I won't be wed.
Thus it goes in Scottish lands. The sexes both are bawds, CLOSING (to the tune of "Scotland the Brave"):
O-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-h, (sound like a set of pipes starting up) |
Subject: Lyr Req: Scotland the brave spoof From: GUEST,patriot1314 Date: 25 Jun 04 - 12:07 PM Can anyone help me with the lyrics for the above song. it was recorded by the Corries many years ago and the first part goes Land of the high endeavour Land o' the dirty weather land where the midgies gether Scotland the brave. Hope someone can help Thank you
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scotland the brave spoof From: masato sakurai Date: 25 Jun 04 - 01:04 PM SCOTLAND THE BRAVE and SCOTLAND THE BRAVE (2) are in the DT. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scotland the brave spoof From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 25 Jun 04 - 01:42 PM The parody was posted here 4 years ago, at Variations of Scotland the Brave (above). There are a few mistakes, but those can be ironed out. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: GUEST,Lotusland Date: 01 May 08 - 08:28 PM Washington DC's Dupont Music Circle Version: Bring me a sheep, dear Mother,I'm tired of my brother. If you need wool have the hind quarters shaved. Don't bring a feeble old ewe; rams give you horns to hold to, England is bad enough, but Scotland's depraved. Bring me a llama, mama, dressed up in plaid pyjamas, With garters of leather, sure that's what I crave. 'tis said from Skye to Greenock, Scots have a way with livestock, England is bad enough, but Scotland's depraved. Bring out the sheets of rubber, grease them with peanut butter, Or if you prefer, you can use mayonnaise. Put on your mask of leather, whip me with sprigs of heather. England is bad enough, but Scotland's depraved. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Nick E Date: 01 May 08 - 08:56 PM Oh jeez folks please! Just cause some jackass(es) write(s) a parody, does not mean you have to repeat it. The thread asks for alternate versions of the song, not parodies of it, in my small mind there is a diffence, guess not in yours? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: GUEST,kenny Date: 02 May 08 - 12:34 PM The Corries parody was written by Bill Hill. And Sandy Paton - I have heard that song which you refer to, a singer - who had better remain nameless - sang it in and around Aberdeen folk club and festivals in the 1970s. Have never heard it anywhere else. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: sheila Date: 02 May 08 - 03:18 PM kenny - was that the same Bill Hill who played in a group with Tom Smith, BillSmith's (former member of the Corrie Folk Trio) wee brother? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Scotland the brave spoof From: GUEST,aleisha & erin Date: 11 Nov 09 - 01:04 PM scotland has a purple feather, and really shocking weather, its were the people gether, scotland the brave. Me and my cuz madee this lol:) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: GUEST,Jungle Jim Date: 25 Jun 10 - 07:17 AM Here's one I made up Land of the purple heather Land of the rainy weather Land where the people gather Scotland the Brave Land of smelly Irish stew Land of yummy haggis too Land of real hot bobbies too (phew) Scotland the Brave Land of ugly Dakota Fanning Land of soccer coach Andy Manning Land of losers 'Glasgow Panning'* Scotland the Brave Land of the mooning grannies By the railroad showin' their fannies Land of the long work hours Scotland the Brave! * a fictional soccer team |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work) Date: 25 Jun 10 - 07:30 AM Land of the Tartan Tories Andy Stewart and the Corries.... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Jack Campin Date: 25 Jun 10 - 08:27 AM Hamish Henderson's "John Maclean March" predates Hanley's "Scotland the Brave" by a couple of years - the tune is very slightly different. The tune appears as "Brave Scotland" in the Gesto Collection of the 1880s, but I don't know any words to it before the 1940s. Do we have a chronology for "O'Donnell Abu"? I don't know it. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Reiver 2 Date: 25 Jun 10 - 09:09 PM Here is the 'humourous' version as sung by The Corries. You can see/hear it on YouTube. It really has to be heard sung to a live audience to be fully appreciated. It's my understanding that it was written by Ronnie Browne, and these words are courtesy of his son, from his webpage. Two of the terms are new to me, and I hope one of the Scots 'Catters can provide a translation: 'Sannies' and 'skivvers.' When I listened I thought the word was 'funnies' as in comic strips and that may be the meaning, but I'm not sure. I THINK I'm right on the following: 'navvies' I believe are men who work at unskilled or semi-skilled outdoor jobs, but I may need some clarification on that; 'lavvies' I'm assuming are lavatories and 'borries' translates to 'borrows'; 'buskin', I'm not sure about bur, again, I'm assuming it refers to busses and/or taxi cabs; a lorry is a truck, but I'm not sure what exactly is an 'arctic lorry' refers to. I'm not familiar with 'skivers', nor am I positive of the connotation in Scots of the term 'stinkers.' [Somehow, I think it's not meant to refer to body odor!] So translation from someone who knows would be appreciated! The terms all may be found in the Scot's Glossary here on the Mudcat, if I'd had the brains to just look there first! Sheeesh! Scotland the Brave [Humourous Version] 1] Land o' the purple heather, Land o' the dirty weather, Land where the midges gather, Scotland the Brave. Land o' the Pakistanis, Andy Capp and Saturday's Sannies, Land where they sell their Grannies, Scotland the Brave. Used to say in faether's day, You could hear the bagpipes play, But now you hear the regal tones O' Elton John and the Rollin' Stones, Land that is full of stinkers. Wee fat Jews and V.P. drinkers, Whiskey's put a lot o' stinkers, Into Scottish graves. 2] Land that is full of skivers, Comic singers, deep sea divers. Turbans on the our buskin' drivers, Scotland the Brave. Land o' the brutal Bobbies, Councillors wi' part-time jobbies Architects, wi' payin' hobbies, Scotland the Brave. The tourists come here every year, To see all our historic gear, But all they see is loads of navvies, Highrise flats wi' concrete lavvies, Land o' the Arctic lorries, Andy Stewart and the Corries. Land where everybody borries. Scotland the Brave. 3] Land o' the kilt and sporran, Underneath there's nothing worn, How I wish the wind was warm, Scotland the Brave. I must admit it's pretty gruesome, Walkin' around wi' your frozen twosome. [They're all we got, so dinna lose 'em], Scotland the Brave. Conservatives try to assure us, Labor's hard put to endure us, The kirk puts curbs on our enjoyment, Government makes unemployment. But never mind, the day is near, When independence will be here, We'll drink a toast in Younger's Beer. To Scotland the Brave Reiver 2 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: LadyJean Date: 26 Jun 10 - 12:19 AM Bertram of Bearington, a member of the S.C.A. Author of filks that mostly don't scan is named Dave Schraeder. Trust him no farther than you can throw him. I learned that the hard way. He doesn't use Bearington anymore. Back in the eighties he had his stomach stapled, and lost a good deal of weight. Last heard from, he was in California. The third verse of the original song is not sung at the Grandfather Mountain Highland Games, becuase they don't want it to rain. (Though it usually does.) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: GUEST Date: 22 May 11 - 10:48 AM Scotland the Brave I have remembered for many years. when i first heard the words I did not know they were written by Cliff Hanly in 1949; I thought the tune and words were written in the the 1870s. Before Hanly wrote the words we know today there were words written well before that but they did not come in to remembered... from 1889 to 1950 most folks played it on bagpipes. In 1986 when I started the blind school when the Burns suppers we had a piper called John and he played that tune and that was the first time I heard Scotland the Brave. When we started Braveheart this song was sung at the fanally, and most folks sung Cliff Hanlys 1949 words but when i look at it I have never heard the other song at all. And also remember Glen Daly and his recording from the 70s which is slightly different to the words the Corries sing and not as rude. It's so hard to know that I have known that song since 1986 the day I started school and still living in glasgow. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 22 May 11 - 11:26 AM So what happened to the lassie who was driving the cow? Anyone ? Anyone ? (See upthread, 5 Apr 00). |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: GUEST,Micheal Date: 25 Nov 21 - 11:06 PM I've been looking all over for the parody of this done by The Two Ronnies. All I can remember is the opening lines: Out where the geese are flapping Out where the jocks are strapping ... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Tattie Bogle Date: 26 Nov 21 - 06:32 PM |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Variations of Scotland the Brave From: Cool Beans Date: 28 Nov 21 - 11:13 AM As a child in Hebrew school in 1950s Brooklyn I learned a Chanukah song to the tune of "Scotland the Brave." I didn't know the tune was "Scotland the Brave" at the time. I remember only a few fragments of the lyrics: Brave Judah Maccabeus Won many victories for us. The Hebrew forces were helped By God above. and Children enjoy their treats And to their joys complete: Dreidels and latkes And tasty things to eat. The song may have been written by someone at our synagogue, or it may have been known to a wider audience. At the time there was a minor radio hit called "My Bonnie Lassie" to the tune of "Scotland the Brave." |
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