Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: catspaw49 Date: 12 Apr 00 - 09:43 PM Back to "Engine 143"....Although used by other roads, the term FFV (as was correctly pointed out as standing for Fast Flying Vestibule) was attributed to the Chesapeake and Ohio and the line is often sung as: "Running down that C&O road" Also Leej, I still like "New River Train" a lot. A fun singalong.......I thought we had a thread about that but it must be under another name. Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: ddw Date: 13 Apr 00 - 12:53 AM One that I don't think's been mentioned is 2:10 Train, which is in the DT. The only recording I've ever heard of it was sung by Linda Ronstadt when she was fronting for The Stone Poneys back in the late '60s. I opened for them one night at a place in Cleveland and she sang it that night. Blew me away. I think she was one of the writers, tho' under what may have been her maiden name. Not sure of that. But the song's great. david |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST,ej Date: 13 Apr 00 - 05:24 AM I don't recall the name ot this one by Glen Yarborough, or someone else around that era. It's a sad song - perhaps an anti-war song. The chorus goes; |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST,ej Date: 13 Apr 00 - 05:39 AM Sorry, I cut myself off. Continuing.... The Chorus goes; Please tell me, if you can, what time do the trains roll in? [response by other singer] Two ten, six eighteen, ten forty four. The song appears to about a soldier returning to his home town. One verse is: I've been away from town(home) so long Fought a war that's come and gone.. Doesn't anybody know my name? etc. A very poignant and sad song.
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Subject: Lyr Add: ENGINE ENGINE NUMBER NINE (R Miller)^^ From: Jim Dixon Date: 13 Apr 00 - 02:28 PM ENGINE, ENGINE NUMBER NINE (Roger Miller © 1965) Engine, engine number nine, Coming down the railroad line, How much farther back did she get off? Old brown suitcase that she carried, I've looked for it ev'rywhere. It Just ain't here among the rest and I'm a little upset, yes. Tell me, (Chorus:) Engine, engine number nine, Coming down the railroad line, I know she got on in Baltimore. A hundred and ten miles ain't much distance, But it sure do make a diff'rence; I don't think she loves me anymore. I warned her of all the dangers: Don't speak to strangers. Did by chance she find a romance, Warmer lips to kiss her, Arms to hold her tighter, Stirring new fires inside her? How I wish that it was me Instead of he that stands beside her. (Repeat chorus; repeat last line of chorus.) JTD
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Subject: Train Songs From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Apr 00 - 05:31 PM Dale Rose sent me a page called Music and Railways (click). Take a look - you'll be amazed. Just a note - threads that discuss music shouldn't receive the "BS" label. That label is supposed to designate threads that are purely chit-chat. But I found the thread, and will monitor it for lyrics that can be included in the Digital Tradition. If you have train song lyrics to share with us, please post them here. If you've posted train songs in other locations, please put links to those songs here. -Joe Offer- Wikipedia List of Train Songs |
Subject: Lyr Add: Taumarunui (Peter Cape)^^ From: Billy the Bus Date: 16 Apr 00 - 08:57 AM Hi Joe, Herewith a contri from NZ. Taumarunui ========== TAUMARUNUI (Peter Cape 1957) I'm an ordinary joker, growin' old before me time, 'Cause me heart's in Taumarunui on the Main Trunk Line. In Taumarunui, Taumarunui. Taumarunui on the Main Trunk Line! You can get to Taumarunui going North or going South, And you pull in there at midnight and there's cinders in your mouth, You've got cinders in your whiskers and a cinder in your eye, So you pop off to Refreshments for a cuppa tea and pie, [Chorus] There's this sheila in Refreshments and she's pouring cups'a tea, And me heart jumps like a rabbit when she pours a cup for me. She's got hair of flamin' yeller, and lips of flamin' red, And I'll love that flamin' sheila till I'm up and gone and dead, [Chorus] Now you can get a job in Wellington or get a job up North, But you can't in Taumarunui though you try for all you're worth. If I want to see this sheila I've got to take a train, Get ten minutes for refresments then they cart me off again, [Chorus] Well they took me on as Fireman on the Limited Express, And I thought that she'd be Jake but now she's all a flamin' mess. That sheila didn't take to me: I thought she'd be a gift, She's gone and changed her duty hours and works the daylight shift, [Chorus] Yeah I'm an ordinary joker, growin' old before me time, 'Cause me heart's in Taumarunui on the Main Trunk Line. In Taumarunui, Taumarunui. Taumarunui on the Main Trunk Line, ____________________________ Peter Cape wrote a heap of great NZ songs in the 50s. Taumarunui (A Maori name, pronounced Tam-ra-new-ee in the 50s - politically incorrect now) is a small town in the centre of the North Island (NZ). I used to have wonderful holidays there as a kid in the forties. The Main Trunk Line, links Wellington and Auckland - 3'6" narrow gauge. The Limited Express ran an overnight 14 hour trip - one train up the line, one down, each night. They crossed just south of Taumarunui. A few "translations" Joker=guy, Sheila=girl (used as a Christian name also) Refreshments = no dining cars, the train stopped about each three hours, and there was a mad dash of passengers to "Refreshment Rooms" in the station building. You had ten minutes to grab your cuppa and pie, then back on board, and off. Railway cups were about a half inch thick.. She'd be Jake = OK I've got an hilarious description of a trip on the Limited Express, from a book "From N to Z", also written in the 50s. Much too lengthy to post here - if any rail buffs want a copy e-mail me. Cheers - Sam |
Subject: Lyr Add: OKAIHAU EXPRESS^^ From: Billy the Bus Date: 16 Apr 00 - 09:15 AM Here's another Kiwi train song, again by Peter Cape Okaihau Express =============== © Peter Cape She starts out from Otiria, the smallest train you've seen: That's the Okaihau Express. Just an engine and a guards van with a carriage in between: This is the Okaihau Express. The driver doesn't worry if he takes the journey slow, Drivin' the Okaihau Express. He's got all day to do it in, and thirty miles to go, Drivin' the Okaihau Express. She was goin' round the bend doin' ten miles an hour, The whistle began to shriek (Whoo-whoo!) Well she caught that bull in the middle of the brisket And the engine smelt of steak for a week. There's puppies in an apple box and pipis in a sack, Ridin' the Okaihau Express, But no-one knows the difference when they're drippin' from the rack, Ridin' the Okaihau Express. She stops at Lake Omapere to take some water in: That's the Okaihau Express. The fireman takes a bucket, the driver takes a swim: That's the Okaihau Express. Okaihau to Otiria it's just a single track, When you're ridin' the Okaihau Express. You can't turn it at the terminus, you just reverse her back. That's the Okaihau Express! _____________________________ Translations Okaihau and Omapere are small towns in Northland NZ - only some tem mileas apart from memory. Guards van = caboose pipi = bivalve shellfish Must learn some of these newfangled tune writing thingies sometime...;) Cheers - Sam HTML line breaks added. -JoeClone 26-Mar-01. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Mooh Date: 16 Apr 00 - 09:23 AM Did anyone mention Love In Vain by the Rolling Stones? Peace, Mooh. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Billy the Bus Date: 16 Apr 00 - 09:28 AM Silly old me you'll find the tune for Taumaranui and Okaihau Express chords on-line. There's more NZ songs on the NZ Folk song list and a good smattering on Dexter Muir's Hot of the scanner Well must hit the pit (go to bed) Cheers - Sam |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE OLD S & D and SWANAGE STEAM (Sartin) From: wildlone Date: 16 Apr 00 - 09:53 AM Here is a couple of songs about the old Somerset and Dorset line or as it was known by those that used it the Slow and Dirty I could scan the music and send as a gif send me a personal message with your email address if you want a copy. The Old S&D Copyright: B Sartin
We had a railway line some years ago
Through the loveliest landscapes of England it rolled
There's museums and theme parks around us today
Through Somerset and Dorset it hauled all the freight
Next time you're stuck on the Evercreech road
They knocked down the bridges and took out the track
Where locos once ran there are houses instead
Swanage Steam.
They said, "It'll have to go,
(Chorus)
So they gave the men the sack,
But when they'd done their worst,
So they called for volunteers,
Helpers came to build and lay,
Now the track will grow and grow,
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Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: bobby's girl Date: 16 Apr 00 - 12:57 PM On Strawhead's CD "Argent", Chris Pollington sings a Stanley Accrington song called Last Train, which is lovely, and tells of the demise of the rural railways. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: bobby's girl Date: 16 Apr 00 - 01:09 PM My husband has just dug out his Dave Goulder LP, which is called "Requiem For Steam", a great LP which includes as session musicians in the credits Martin Carthy and Maddy Prior! It was produced by Big Ben Records of London. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Snuffy Date: 16 Apr 00 - 08:43 PM What about Flanders & Swan's The Last Train with the names of all those dead stations. Wassail! V |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Mark Clark Date: 17 Apr 00 - 01:27 AM Dave Prine and Tyler Wilson (The National Recovery Act) used to say there were no good train songs anymore. Trains don't run down the grade at 90 MPH any more; they go 30 MPH along a straight flat run, get halfway there and fall off. How do you write a song about that? - Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Robo Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:10 AM Thanks to the 'Cat who added "Texas 1947" by Guy Clark. Let me throw in Woody Guthrie's meanest man on the shiney iron, little "East Texas Red." |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Sorcha Date: 19 Apr 00 - 10:57 AM Chris LeDoux does a wonderful "Raised By the Railroad Line" by Paul Craft. I'll see if I can transcribe them, all I can remember right now is I'ts a part of your past, you never quite turn loose........part of the soul in the heart of a man, of a boy that was raised by the railroad line" |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Mbo Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:07 AM Sorcha, I was just listening to that very song yesterday! Like Gene Price used to say..."ah..that's Chris Ledoux, and he do do do!" --Mbo |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: SINSULL Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:13 AM I remember a 78RPM of "Freight Train Blues". I got the freight train blues Lawdy Lawdy Lawdy I got em in the bottom of my ramblin' shoes When the whistle blows I got to go Oh Lawdy ain't I ever gonna lose the freight train blues. Can't remember more and who sang it but I loved it as a child. Also had "The Wreck of Old 99" and "The Train That Never Returned Again". Did anyone mention "100 Miles"? Not my favorite but a train song. |
Subject: Lyr Add: RAISED BY THE RAILROAD LINE^^ From: Sorcha Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:32 PM OK, here are the lyrics to the song I mentioned earlier..... RAISED BY THE RAILROAD LINE words by Paul Craft, copyright BMI The clickety sound of a south bound freight And the high speed hum of a passenger train, Becomes a part of the soul in the heart of a man, of a boy that was raised by the railroad line. The sound of the whistle,like a ??(can't get this) And the tanks and the trucks and the tractors on the flat car roll Becomes a part of the soul in the heart of a man, of a boy that was raised by the railroad line. And the big round penny that you lay on the rail that the wheels mash flat, And the glimpse of the faces of the ladies and the men, and the engineer's hat, And the brakeman waves from the red caboose, I'ts a part of the past, you never quite turn loose, It's a part of the soul in the heart of a man, of a boy that was raised by the railroad line. And the big round penny that you lay on the rail that the wheels mashed flat, And the glimpse of the faces of the ladies and the men, and the engineer's hat, The clickety sound of a south bound freight, and the high speed hum of a passenger train, Becomes a part of the soul in the heart of a man, Of a boy that was raised by the railroad line. Mbo, can you help with the phrase I can't get? Sounds like "like a cross-(something)". Mbo also has the tune, maybe he could do a sound file for Allan Oz to do a midi? |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Dale Rose Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:51 PM I just sent Joe a sound file of Die Kleine Bimmelbahn (The Little Train) Marianne Vasel & Eric Storz, Mercury (45) 71286, 1958. I think I'll let him take care of the transcription. Really big smile here. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Dale Rose Date: 20 Apr 00 - 01:30 AM Check this thread for an interesting discussion of The Crime of the D'Autremont Brothers a well known train robbery in 1923. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Melbert Date: 20 Apr 00 - 04:47 PM How about "The Original Honky-tonk Train Blues" by Pete Atkin. A factual description of how a steam loco works cleverly set to music (and with lyrics that take some learning and practise!) |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Wesley S Date: 20 Apr 00 - 05:19 PM Does anyone know a song about trains by Tom Waits? There is a line in it to effect of "This train took me away from here but it will carry me home again"? I heard it on a special about modern day teenage hobos this week on "Real Life" on MTV. It will be repeated tonight and tomorrow also. Check it out. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Ditchdweller Date: 21 Apr 00 - 11:36 AM It will proberbly mean nothing to those on t'other side of the Big Pond, but I did a song a few years ago putting the Train Driver's point of view about the Great Train Robbery. Early one August Moring in 1963, The up mail gave a mighty roar As 2,000 horses broke free. Driver Jack Mill at the controller, A skilled man, one of the best, One fifty miles to London, Where he could take his rest. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Stewie Date: 25 May 00 - 12:40 AM New train songs are appearing every day. There's a beauty - 'Big Ol' Train' - on Kimmie Rhodes' brand new album 'Rich from the Journey' Sunbird Records. It's the best thing on the album, apart from 'God's Acre' where she duets with Gillian Welch. Kimmie is in glorious voice, as ever. Some of the lyrics are a bit new-agey spiritual for my taste but, as far I am concerned, she can sing the phone book and I'll listen. --Stewie.
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Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Stewie Date: 25 May 00 - 12:48 AM Where I referred to 'some of the lyrics', I was referring to the album generally, not 'Big Ol' Train'. --Stewie. |
Subject: ADD VERSES: The Dummy Line ^^ From: zonahobo Date: 25 May 00 - 01:52 AM My Dad used to sing a song called The Dummy Line which I was thrilled to find on your database with some great lyrics I had never read. I think it really was a hobo song. He had a few stanzas (right term?) which I didn't find there which I can add. Maybe they were lifted from other songs, who knows? If they pass the Mudcat review they must be legit! Here goes ....
DUMMY LINE LOST LYRICS:
On the Dummy line .. etc.
I once had a gal down in Mobile (I think horse is a term in craps shooting ..) ^^ |
Subject: Lyr Add: ARE YE RIGHT THERE, MICHAEL?^^ From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie Date: 25 May 00 - 07:20 AM How 'bout an Irish Train Song? Are You Right There Michael? By Percy French [Verse 1] You've heard of Columbus's sailin' Across the Atlantical sea But he never tried to go railin' From Ennis as far as Kilkee. You rush for the train in the mornin' The excursion that's leavin' at eight You're there when the guard gives the warnin' And there for an hour you will wait. [Refrain] Are you right there Michael, are you right? Do you think that we'll be there before the night? Well, we've been so long in startin' That I couldn't say for certain But we might now Michael, so we might. [Verse 2] They find out where the engine's been hidin' And soon you will reach Currofin Where the train it backs down to a sidin' There's a goods from Kilrush comin' in. Perhaps she'll be in in two hours Perhaps she'll break down on the way. If she does says the guard, by the powers We'll be here for the rest of the day. And as you sit & curse your luck The train backs down into a truck [Refrain] Are you right there Michael, are you right? Have you got the parcel there for Mrs. White? You haven't? Well begorrah, say it's comin' down tomorra' And it might now Michael, so it might. There are four or five verses in all but that's all I can remember. The Railway in question was the West Clare railway, and I believe that one of their drivers sued French for defamation. Wherever he went people used to sing the song or whistle the tune! I don't know if he won the case. HTML line breaks added. -JoeClone 26-Mar-01. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Penny S. Date: 25 May 00 - 05:01 PM The Flanders and Swan song is somewhere on the Place Names thread. Penny |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 25 May 00 - 09:08 PM Here's a link to a page about Percy French with a fine picture of him, and a potted biograohy, including the facts about the court case, which he won. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 25 May 00 - 10:04 PM Uh - maybe I'm in the wrong thread - but can anybody provide me the lyrics of "Canadian Pacific" once done by George Harrison IV? That's a not so recent train song that was great to me when I was young. Today I can only get pieces of it, e.g. in medleys, and I can't find the lyrics on the net. Seems to be too common for everybody except me. Joerg |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: catspaw49 Date: 25 May 00 - 10:29 PM Not to fear Joerg......Mudcat strikes again. We have had a couple of discussions on this song by Ray Griff and recorded by Hank Snow and George Hamilton IV (I think that's what you meant instead of Harrison). The lyrics and some other info you might like are on this thread: CLICK HERE FOR CANADIAN PACIFIC Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST,Joerg Date: 26 May 00 - 03:36 AM Great, Spaw, thank you very much. And of course George Harrison is somebody else - may both of them forgive me. Joerg |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST,Dave Date: 26 May 00 - 10:34 AM He may be too modest to mention it, but Art Thieme has a record of railroad related songs, available from Folk Legacy, which I have enjoyed. "Just the Ticket," if memory serves. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST,jcmiles@sunpublications.com Date: 13 Sep 00 - 03:50 AM On what album, in what year, on what label does the Kingston Trio perform "Blue Water Line"? I am doing a research project and have had no luck finding this information. For any help you can provide, thanks. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: sledge Date: 13 Sep 00 - 06:28 AM Iron road recently recorded by Bob Fox on his album Dreams never leave you is a goodie. Does a good job of evoking the age of steam in the UK, It can be downloaded from his website as an MP3 file at, www.bobfoxmusic.com |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST,Michael in Swansea Date: 13 Sep 00 - 08:10 AM How come Casey Jones hasn't had a mention? M |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: SINSULL Date: 13 Sep 00 - 08:35 AM Lightening Express I Heard That Lonesome Whistle Blow" (Hank Williams This Train To Morrow (play on words - Morrow is a town.) Take the "A" Train |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: dwditty Date: 13 Sep 00 - 04:19 PM I just scanned the thread quickly. They may be there but I didn't notice Railroad Lady (Jerry Jeff Walker) or Panama Limited. |
Subject: Lyr Add: LEGEND OF ANDREW MCCREW^^ From: mousethief Date: 13 Sep 00 - 04:59 PM This isn't exactly a train song but it is about a hobo who is killed on the railway. It's one of my favorites.
The Legend of Andrew McCrew
Intro:
Chorus (repeat after each verse):
Down on nightmare alley, where the shady people sway
Well, Andrew had one leg of wood, the other leg was small.
But no one came to claim him, until the carnival passed through.
Well, what a way to live a life and what a way to die.
But what about the ones who live and wish that they could go. ----- Chords (and brief story about the real Andrew McC) here. ----- |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Joe Offer Date: 13 Sep 00 - 05:02 PM I'm monitoring this thread and will harves all songs posted here and submit them to the Digital Tradition database. A while back, Stewie posted a number fo trains songs. If somebody would like to find those songs and post a message with links to them, that would be really nice. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Snuffy Date: 13 Sep 00 - 08:55 PM I keep getting this error message when I try to find Stewie's posts or set the filter to 180 days, So here's what I remember Stewie posting back in March/April. He actually put together a tape with 25 train songs on, but said on April 9th he'd posted 17 - guess the other 8 were already in DT. Error Occurred While Processing Request Error Diagnostic Information WaitNamedPipe returned FALSE. Windows NT error number 121 occurred. These are the ones I definitely remember Stewie posting SETTLE TO CARLISLE RAILWAY - (Howeth/Downes/Adams) thread asked for help on place names in song WEATHERED OLD CABOOSE BEHIND THE TRAIN - (Norman Blake) thread may have been Red Caboose .... CASEY JONES (John Koerner) - had some discussion about Jay Gould's daughter REQUIEM - (Dave Goulder) I think thread title was "Mallard?" Other tracks on tape that he may have posted were:
Wassail! V
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Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Snuffy Date: 13 Sep 00 - 09:27 PM I managed to get into Stewie's postings and found his train songs. I think I've got them all now - hope the links work. Looks like you've already harvested a few of them, Joe Wreck of the 97 (2)^^ The Leaving Train^^ The Moss Vale Train^^ Black Smoke Train^^ Railroad Blues^^ Death of John Henry^^ Casey Jones 2 and queries^^ Help: names in train song^^ Never gonna stop this train^^ The Sandy Hollow Line^^ Hood River Roll On^^ Linin' track^^ Swannanoa Tunnel (2)^^ Steel A-Goin' Down^^ ADD: The poison train^^ ADD: Battler's Ballad^^ ADD: Requiem (Dave Goulder)^^ The Weathered Old Caboose ...^^ Wassail! V |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: richlmo Date: 13 Sep 00 - 11:14 PM Doc Watson is always good for a few train songs: New River Train Greenville Trestle Southbound Passenger Train, from " Doc and the Boys" (my favorite) and lots of others. How about "Midnight Flyer" and "What Am I Doing Hangin' Round", MONKEES, ( actually Michael Martin Murphy[sp] wrote it. ) There are lots of good train songs. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: GUEST, Banjo Johnny Date: 14 Sep 00 - 03:08 AM Good stuff in this thread! Here's a train song for kids (my dad used to sing this). The tune is something like Alouette. Down at the station, early in the morning, See the little puffer-bellies all in a row. See the station master pull the little handle, Chug chug, toot toot, off we go! Dad would wake me up for my chores at 5 am with this, accompanied by a great deal of poking in the tummy, tickling, pulling ears ... don't try this with adults. == Johnny in OKC |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: richlmo Date: 14 Sep 00 - 09:37 PM Doc Watson had a real good album, " Riding on That Midnight Train" with Sam Bush, Jerry Douglas and others. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Robby Date: 15 Sep 00 - 02:46 PM Back in Scranton, PA, where I was bred and buttered, as my Grandmother used to say, there once was a railroad known as the DL&W. It's official name was the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, but was better known to the locals as the Delay, Linger & Wait. Anyway, I can remember my father and grandfather used to sing a song about it, but all I can remember now is the Chorus: Where do you work-a John? On the Delaware Lackawan. What do you do-a John? I push and I push and I push. What do you push-a John? I push the cars around. Where do you work-a John? On the Delaware Lackawan, -awan, -awan, -awan, On the Delaware Lackawan. If anyone knows the verses, I'd sure like to get them. |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Robby Date: 15 Sep 00 - 03:34 PM Hey, 'Spaw, I forgot to mention in my last message that I used to ride that Phoebe Snow. Said Phoebe Snow, about to go upon a trip to Buffalo: "My gown stays white, from morn 'til night, upon the road of anthracite". |
Subject: RE: BS: Train Songs From: Steve Latimer Date: 15 Sep 00 - 03:38 PM My cousin sings a very nice song, I believe it's called "The Train That Carried Jimmie Rodgers Home." I don't know the original artist, but would sure like to hear the original. Can anyone help? Mooh, Love in Vain is a Robert Johnson song that the Stones did a very nice cover of. |
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