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Subject: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:22 AM

First, its a given that I'm a complete computer idiot. I sit here with this fastass, big memory, Gateway and I don't know a tenth of what it does. But in the past couple of years, I've gotten pretty good at searching the Net and setting up this thing to do what I want. I have arranged the desktop to my needs and have shortcuts to various things I use. For a long time, one of those shortcuts has been the 'Cat of course, but the thing simply said "threads" and some generic little gizwhickie as an icon. THEN........Seemingly out of the blue, I notice that I now have a little "Banjo/Catfish Mudcat Logo" ICON!!!!

Its real cute and all that, but where the hell did it come from? With others, they have either come up at the time I loaded the program or I added it from somewhere later. I mean, there are times I think this damn computer has a life of its own and does things either to confuse me or simply piss me off. I am sometimes missing food or beverage from my fridge too and I have a feeling its raiding the icebox when I go to sleep. Plus, I think its having an affair with my VCR, but I can't catch them "in the act."

But, my question is.......where did the icon come from? Is it a new feature of sorts or something Ms. Gateway finally decided to let me see?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:25 AM

Well, I'll be boogered! MY shortcut is just a little piece of paper with the corner turned down and the flying e IE logo on top of it. If you figger this out let me know, I want one too!


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:36 AM

Anytime you guys open a site and want to have an iconed shortcut to something, just rightclick on the page and select "create shortcut" (or at least this is how it works on my system).


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:37 AM

But I don't have a clue as to the answer to the original question.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:42 AM

Yeah, that's the thing Allan....The shortcut I created long ago ang it had the same little icon Sorcha described. But the other day, this popped up instead!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Kelida
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:44 AM

Hmmmm. . . What Allan said is right--the same on my comp. Maybe you did that on accident?

Peace--Bridget


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:45 AM

I just tried and got the same old thing. I guess it is just that your are a freaking genius with this stuff but just don't know it yet!


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:48 AM

Yaeh, could be AC.....I plan on screwing with CNN, Yahoo, and e-Bay, later today. Hate to be outdone by a 15 year old kid in Canada.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:50 AM

You got me curious....'spaw, could you (would you?) right-click on the icon;
chose properties;

on that there should be a "change icon" button.
when you press that it should bring up a box with two fields.... "File name" and "current icon"

What does it say in the "file name" box?


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 11:53 AM

OK Mario....But if I lose my Catfish, I'm coming to New York and kick your ass!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: GUEST,Sinsull
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:16 PM

I'll be darned. Now I have a banjo too. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:31 PM

It doesn't show up in the icon files anywhere I can find. Properties/Change Icons shows 4 different folders and I browsed the lot and can't find it anywhere......Now I'm REALLY confused!!!!

Sinsull....How did you get yours?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:44 PM

properties/change icon should show a specific file name. What is it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:46 PM

and of course the other question is, do you use auto-update, or live update, or any of those nasty little programs?


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:53 PM

Oh, thanks a LOT, Spaw, I really mean that....NOT!!! Now I will NEVER get anything done, with one more step eliminated, it will be SO easy...just bypass the home page crap and bingo, there I am, arrrrggghhhhhh!!!**BG**

For what it is worth, I did what Allan said to and got the mudcat icon. When I clicked on properties to change icon, it said the current one was WINDOWS/SYSTEM/url.dll.

Now I have to log off so I can go play clickie with the damn thingie, it's so cute!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:54 PM

Oh, thanks a LOT, Spaw, I really mean that....NOT!!! Now I will NEVER get anything done, with one more step eliminated, it will be SO easy...just bypass the home page crap and bingo, there I am, arrrrggghhhhhh!!!**BG**

For what it is worth, I did what Allan said to and got the mudcat icon. When I clicked on properties to change icon, it said the current one was WINDOWS/SYSTEM/url.dll.

Now I have to log off so I can go play clickie with the damn thingie, it's so cute!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 12:59 PM

Yeah, that's all I get in the file name too......And I'm telling you I have looked in all the icon files and it ain't there. I use 98 and that box on the change icons screen shows 4 icon s with a red asterisk and I checked all that too. I did the icon files for desktop and the rest are there but the little mudcat ain't.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:04 PM

Well, I finally found it after changing the name from threads.cfm to Mudcat Cafe....but it says the file has no icons in it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:12 PM

OK, I had the e icon as a short cut, I just now right clicked on the page thread, not the home page, and did the create shortcut thing again, and this time I got the banjo! Coolie-0! Maybe King Max did it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:39 PM

I went to the Forum Page where you can create a new thread. Right clicked on the page. Selected Create a Shortcut. Got a message that this would put an Icon on my desktop. Clicked OK and there it was.

Good Luck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:51 PM

*sob* I can't get it......

I'm stongly suspecting it's an autodownload type thing....which I have turned off, since most of them can't get through the firewall without crashing the 'puter anyway


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:52 PM

Ok, MMario, how do I check to see if I have this auto download thingie? My computer, then properties?


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:58 PM

no - it would be in your browser options.....what are you using, Internet Exploder or the good one?


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 01:59 PM

The Real Answer is:

Warning: Slight TechnoBabble Here

This is only visible to Internet Explorer users who bookmark a site. Also, the WebMaster must have put together an Icon file called "favicon.ico" that IE will request when the user bookmarks a site. This does two things:
  • It gives the user a distinctive icon to mark the site
  • It lets the WebMaster know when their site has been bookmarked by a user.
It's a convenience to the User, and a warm fuzzy for the WebMaster.

Wincing_Devil
The Cat was created when the lion sneezed. - Arab Myth


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:01 PM

Nope, still got the exploder. I rt clicked on the icon, did props. and the url is the httpmudcat one, short cut key is none, and still the c:windows, icon does not appear in my change choices.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:02 PM

so - it IS an automatic download of an icon file to the user without (the user) requesting it...


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:08 PM

I wouldn't have a clue about these icons or shortcuts to Mudcat as I don't use them. I simply have Mudcat set as my home page so it loads up everytime I start the browser.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:18 PM

MMario:

You request the file by bookmarking the site.

It is NOT an attempt by the Borg to take over humanity, merely trying to make the web easier to navigate.

Wincing_Devil
Cats aren't bad losers - Cats never lose.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:27 PM

bookmarking does NOT require a download. Nor do I like the idea that a webmaster can control what my shortcuts look like. Kids create shortcuts too.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Ed Pellow
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:37 PM

Mmario,

Bookmarking does require a download. At the very least you are downloading the name of the page and it's url.

I have no problem with it, as by it's nature, web surfing almost always involves downloading.

I remember reading an article in an internet magazine, a few months ago, on how to do the bookmark icon. I can't find the article, and would be grateful if anyone could point me in the direction of any on-line resources that might tell me.

Thanks

Ed


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Homeless
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:43 PM

Any time you surfing on the net you are constantly downloading. Every bit of text, every line, every button, every picture that shows up in your browser is downloaded. By going to a page you are reqesting that files be downloaded to your computer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:48 PM

Now on the main threads page I have the banjo icon just in front of the http in the address bar! On a thread page, I have the e icon..........


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 02:55 PM

okay - I agree.I stated my case badly. what I object to is that this custom icon bit is out of the control of the user. A webmaster can put whatever they want into the icon. MINIMUM, you should have the option of turning the feature off.

okay - I'm a "minimalist". Frames, backgrounds, etc drive me nuts. And while I respect the right of www.comtemplator.com to put background music on every page I am VERY happy with the change that allows me to turn it off. which I do immediatly on entering.

and I'm grumpy today....which is coming out in my posts. my apologies (spelling? that just doesn't look right) to all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Homeless
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:03 PM

MMario - I tend to agree with you. I work as a computer programmer and detest all the bells and whistles. I'd much prefer text only (I'd rather go back to DOS than deal with Windows). I also keep the security on my browser set at the highest level, and delete stuff manually on a daily basis. The ONLY reason I allow cookies on my machine is so I can come into the Mudcat. I don't want anything changed on my machine unless I specifically do it, and try to block any change that anyone else tries to make. The best way to put me in a grumpy mood is to start screwing with my machine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: SDShad
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:06 PM

Or, if like me, you're sitting here wondering "what the heck are they talking about," since for some reason you have both IE and Netscape and neither of them uses a Mudcat Banjo icon when you create a shortcut with them (okay, so I'm also running NT 4.0 Workstation, which might have something to do with it too), you could point your browser at:

http://www.mudcat.org/favicon.ico, and save the icon file to your hard drive, and then you can use it as the icon for anything.

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:13 PM

ed...try here


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Max
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:14 PM

Boy, you guys are smart. Cute isn't it. Wincing Devil got it figured first, and SDShad got the rest to ya. Wanna hear the story of the ICON? OK...

When we were relaunching the site back when with a lot of the new features, for days afterward I was carefully watching the log files to discover any errors or oversights etc. I kept seeing this file not found for favicon.ico. I was confused and did a little research. What I found was what Wincing Devil posted above. When folks add a bookmark in Internet Explorer, the browser looks to see if the site has an icon associated with it. I simply made sure it did. Neato huh? I'm a friggin Genius huh?

Apparently it only works with newer version of IE, maybe 4 or better, or maybe 5.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: GUEST,Bob schwarer who's a guest again
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:22 PM

I went to the "Create a New Thread" page and installed the shortcut, then changed the path so when I click it the thread page comes up.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:23 PM

IE5. The site I bookmarked above has an explanation of it, plus instructions on how to do it, and even instructions on how to make it blow up someones browser....


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Ed Pellow
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:24 PM

Mmario,

Thanks for the link - I bookmarked it, and guess what, it doesn't bother having it's own icon

Not sure what that says...

Ed


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:29 PM

Well thanks for the info and the Icon Max, (IE5 here on 98) but as I was doing Wincing Devil's site I got one of those lovely MS messages that I had done gone and performed one of them illegal type of operations and puter went down in flames!!!

So here's a special message to Bill Gates---Kiss my ass.

And one to our good buddy, Wincing Devil---Fock you too.

best to all.........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:33 PM

BTW Wincing....We have Cornish Rex. And A&E seems to have perhaps a new Cats special on this coming Sunday.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Easy Rider
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:34 PM

HEY! NO FAIR! All I got was that stinking Netscape icon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Ed Pellow
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:34 PM

I lied - it does have an icon - I'll use my usual excuse of being tired, and the time being late...

Ed


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:43 PM

easy - if you use the link above to download the file itself, then you can point your shortcut to the file....


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 03:48 PM

SEE? I done TOLE ya King Max did it!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: Max
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 04:18 PM

Funny, my horoscope told me that I have a shot at King of the World today. Strangest horoscope I ever heard of. I quote: "What would you do if you were king or queen of the world? Make plans; you may get a great chance later."

What the hell is up with that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: jeffp
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 04:19 PM

Max, you are already king of OUR world.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 04:38 PM

It's in the cookies!


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Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from???
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 00 - 04:58 PM

Max, my guess would be that you'll look like Bill Gates, be as financially endowed as Robert Johnson, and dress like Queen Elizabeth.

Just a guess.....I may be wrong.

Spaw


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