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GUEST,Abe L. 27 Apr 00 - 12:14 PM
JedMarum 27 Apr 00 - 12:27 PM
GUEST,Abe L. 27 Apr 00 - 12:35 PM
Whistle Stop 27 Apr 00 - 12:35 PM
JedMarum 27 Apr 00 - 12:41 PM
Dale Rose 27 Apr 00 - 12:51 PM
JedMarum 27 Apr 00 - 12:54 PM
Wesley S 27 Apr 00 - 12:56 PM
katlaughing 27 Apr 00 - 12:58 PM
Wesley S 27 Apr 00 - 01:08 PM
SINSULL 27 Apr 00 - 01:12 PM
katlaughing 27 Apr 00 - 01:15 PM
Lonesome EJ 27 Apr 00 - 01:28 PM
GUEST,Kelida 27 Apr 00 - 01:41 PM
katlaughing 27 Apr 00 - 01:44 PM
catspaw49 27 Apr 00 - 02:15 PM
GUEST,JenEllen 27 Apr 00 - 02:18 PM
JedMarum 27 Apr 00 - 02:24 PM
catspaw49 27 Apr 00 - 02:27 PM
JedMarum 27 Apr 00 - 02:27 PM
GUEST,JenEllen 27 Apr 00 - 02:28 PM
JedMarum 27 Apr 00 - 02:33 PM
catspaw49 27 Apr 00 - 02:34 PM
Kelida 27 Apr 00 - 03:16 PM
BlueJay 27 Apr 00 - 03:25 PM
JedMarum 27 Apr 00 - 03:50 PM
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Bert 27 Apr 00 - 05:02 PM
McGrath of Harlow 27 Apr 00 - 05:15 PM
Greg F. 27 Apr 00 - 05:29 PM
McGrath of Harlow 27 Apr 00 - 05:36 PM
Rick Fielding 27 Apr 00 - 05:37 PM
Jacob B 27 Apr 00 - 06:04 PM
Bert 27 Apr 00 - 06:09 PM
Banjer 27 Apr 00 - 07:05 PM
DougR 27 Apr 00 - 07:51 PM
GUEST,Allen A. 27 Apr 00 - 08:42 PM
DougR 27 Apr 00 - 09:11 PM
bbelle 27 Apr 00 - 09:25 PM
MarkS 27 Apr 00 - 09:54 PM
GUEST,GRNJ 27 Apr 00 - 10:06 PM
GUEST,Abe L. 27 Apr 00 - 10:29 PM
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Subject: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,Abe L.
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:14 PM

There was a time when I was able to respect some Republicans- though I d1dn't agree with them most of the time, they seemed intelligent, their arguements well thought out(even if wrong-headed) and they were mostly logical.

Then, beginning about the time of Ron Reagan(our first senile President-in-Office) Republicans really began to get laughably stupid! Laughable, that is, except for the very real damage they did, and continue to do, to the country. A lot of them still think "Reaganomics" worked!!? And now, "Smirk" Bush accuses the Clinton/GoreAdmin. of being "the most partisan in the history of the united states!

Is He: 1. A moron? or 2. Simply a liar?

Comments on the cause of this universal Republican dumbing-down appreciated!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:27 PM

Abe - you are obviously an ignorant bigot. What sort of intelligent conversation is possible on the matter?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,Abe L.
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:35 PM

"What sort of intelligent conversation is possible"

You're making my point for me, Jed- you wouldn't be a Republican, would you? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:35 PM

Abe, I don't know why you list those options as mutually exclusive. Can't GWB be both a moron AND a liar?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:41 PM

Abe - truth be told; I am not a Republican but I am tired of seeing the so called "open minded" continue to spew venom over those who have differing points-of-view.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Dale Rose
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:51 PM

I don't usually post to such threads, but here I am compelled to speak. Discussing such topics, whether about brain dead Republicans, moronic Democrats, stupid ass Liberals, whatever, can serve no good purpose except to divide people who should be looking for ways to unite instead. To deliberately start out to pick a fight is just not what we should be here for. If we want to argue, let's argue as to whether you ought to use an electric bass in bluegrass music. At least it would make more sense. (intentionally silly example)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:54 PM

Dale - I agree, there should be no electric bass in bluegrass! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:56 PM

I have to agree with Jed - I'm not sure what the point is here. Do you expect the Rebublicans to come around to your way of thinking by calling them brain dead even if they are? You'll get more flies with honey than vinegar. I don't fall into the "music threads only" group but I'm not sure why you want to ask the question here. And for the record I'm quite liberal. We tend in this country to concentrate way too much on our differences rater than our commen goals - in my liberal opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 12:58 PM

Oh, man! Ya mean we shouldn't stick the bass player's finger in that socket!??? An', here I thought that heavy thump, thump was all the rage AND a way to get the kids to turn out for good music...just like the bass boosters they all have in their cars, driving around causing minor earthquakes in the pavement! Sheesh, I learn sumthin' new here everyday!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 01:08 PM

Dale and Jed - Y'all must be braindead !#&*@$%! if you don't already know that when you use an electric bass it's called NEWGRASS not bluegrass. Don't go republican on us. At least now we have something musical to argue about. Even the commie pinkos can join in on this one. Yahoo Boy Howdy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 01:12 PM

Electric Blue Grass? I am still recovering from electric Dylan. Sounds like a Communist plot to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 01:15 PM

Well at least it isn't NEWTgrASS!!!

Hey! Who ya callin' pinko!!???Huh!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 01:28 PM

Jesse Helms is the only truly brain-dead Republican I can think of. Most of the rest are just pretending. As far as Democrats go, I think Al Gore's brain may be alive, but I'm not sure about the rest of him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,Kelida
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 01:41 PM

Well, this is interesting. Someone calling a republican stupid? No offense but everyone in both major parties seem to be lacking intelligence these days. I'll be 18 just in time for this election, and I don't really know who I'll vote for. Personally I lean more towards the libertarian viewpoint on personal freedom, but am a bit skeptical about their economic ideas. In any case, why does it matter? You have to vote for someone... It just happens to be between TWO bad choices.

Peace--Keli


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 01:44 PM

LeeJ!! I am shocked that you said only Helms...that Hatched, Orin certainly speaks without a brain ergo dead brain, eh?**BG**


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:15 PM

The only thing on Strom Thurmond that seems to be alive is his pecker which is surprising ...

"just talk into the machine...."

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,JenEllen
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:18 PM

OH! NOW I get it!! So that GrooveGrass album is just a cheap Republican plot to help Strom Thurmond score with the babes???? How could I have been so dense.....;) ~Elle


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:24 PM

well, I believe you'll find that neither Strom nor Jesse would agree to an electric bass in their bluegrass band ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:27 PM

Strom don't holt with nothin' 'lectrical......

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:27 PM

bye the way Kelida, that link didn;t work, but I think you meant to point it here. Looks like a god site, but I just read the front page.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,JenEllen
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:28 PM

horrible mental image tho, isn't it? Strom and the Orange Blossom Special?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:33 PM

LOL - or Jesse and Rocky Top?

{shiver}


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:34 PM

Aw GEEZIZ JE........I just got a cold chill and blew lunch at the same time. MMmmmm, may have crapped myself too. That's OK though, Strom probably wears diapers too.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Kelida
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 03:16 PM

Thanx Jed. That is where I meant to point it. I don't know why it didn't work. . . It's really very informative, no bashing of other parties, nice political site.

Peace--Keli


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: BlueJay
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 03:25 PM

You know, I graduated nursing school on the day that Nixon died. My only useful comment that day was, "Once Reagan goes, my life will be complete".


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JedMarum
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 03:50 PM

blue jay - i save that sort of hatred for more evil villians! Nixon was/is easy to dislike.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: BlueJay
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 04:05 PM

Jed- I thought it was kind of funny. Actually, I kind of liked Nixon. He was pretty much a liberal by todays standards, not too far off from Clinton in some ways! But I still find it easy to detest the Reagan years. He probably has more sense now than when he was President. I'm not trying to be cruel, but his followers, such as Ginrich the newt, have aptly illustrated to me the hippocracy of the Republican party.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: wildlone
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 04:40 PM

Here in the UK we have more than two parties to vote for
so during elections some places can have voting papers that are mesured in feet.
But remember whoever gets in the front office the people out back are still the same.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Bert
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 05:02 PM

Regarding GWB, we've had 'Read My Lips', we've had 'Silverado'. I can't imagine why anyone with a LIVE brain would want to try for three out of three.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 05:15 PM

The newt has a different political resonance back here in England, thanks to Newt Labour and Ken Livingstone (who breeds them as a hobby).

Can't see how people can get so worked up about a label - seems to me that both the Republican and the Democrat parties range all the way from moderate, if slightly right of centre, to total raving nutcases. (There's lots of TRN's over here too - in case anyone charges me with America bashing...)

Remember, "Whoever you vote for, the government always gets in". (And "If voting really changed anything, they'd abolish it" - a slogan used by Ken Liviongstone for a book he wrote, after Thatcher abolished the Greater London Council for having the wrong politics.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 05:29 PM

I just don't think its fair nominating Jesse(how 'bout them factory hog farms!)Helms as the only one truly brain dead- perhaps he's 'first among equals'- hard to choose with a whole host folks like Trent Lott, Tom DeLay & David Duke around...
BR> Shame we don't have the equivalent of "Red Ken" this side of the pond, McGrath.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 05:36 PM

You do, and better. You just don't seem to vote for them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 05:37 PM

People, People, PEOPLE!! We gots to stop arguin' here. Why can't we all just get along. MUSIC WILL SAVE US IN THIS THREAD! Here's my bipartisan band (being alive is NOT a criterion)(Nor is being "brain dead" a detriment)

PIANO: Dick Nixon, Harry Truman.

DRUMS: Lou Farakhan (if you don't believe me check it out)

SAX: Bubba Clinton

FIDDLE: Robert Byrd, Roy Acuff

GUITAR: Thomas Jefferson, Jimmie Davis

VOCALS: Bess Truman, Dick Nixon.

Because I'm just a stupid Canadian I can't remember anymore, so please help. You have to admit it's better than the first post.

Rick (who thinks that both parties have lots of brain death)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Jacob B
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 06:04 PM

You have to admit that the Reagan administration was the inspiration for some great songs. "Government on Horseback Again", "The Man With the Hired Face", "Take a Walk on the Supply Side" - they don't write songs like that anymore.

And I hope they never have to again!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Bert
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 06:09 PM

Aw! we're just having fun Rick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Banjer
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 07:05 PM

Rick thinks that 'both parties have lots of brain death'.. This is graciously giving too much credit by assuming that politicians (on both sides) have brains to die...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: DougR
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 07:51 PM

Don't take a lot of brains to see this thread's no place for me.

DougR (A Republican)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,Allen A.
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 08:42 PM

Yet, you felt compelled to post?

Refresh:

Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,Abe L.
Date: 27-Apr-00 - 12:35 PM

"What sort of intelligent conversation is possible"

You're making my point for me, Jed- you wouldn't be a Republican, would you? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: DougR
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 09:11 PM

Yep! Why not Guest Allen A? I'm a member.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: bbelle
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 09:25 PM

For a group who eschews generalizations, you've certainly mastered it in this thread. Oh, and before one of the village idiots responds, I'm not Republican ... moonchild


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: MarkS
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 09:54 PM

There is only one common factor to all the past elections in my voting age life. Every election was on a Tuesday, and each time, on the following Wednesday, I had to get out of bed and go to work.
Really - What is the difference?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,GRNJ
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 10:06 PM

Having been a life member of the Republican Party (yes, a real dues-paying member) I will explain: Ordinary Republicans, like me and the ones you see on the street every day, are actually fairly intelligent and level-headed. Also, we're a lot more "liberal" than you might think, i.e., we don't have a monolithically right-wing opinion on every subject. We see ourselves as differing from Democrats mainly in the conservative-liberal thing; we believe that we believe in traditional, tested American values and principles, while we see the liberal agenda as tending toward a "benevolent totalitarianism" that is not American. Still, we tend to believe that our differences can be worked out with a little common sense and logic, if no one blows off into rhetoric.

The reason we look so dumb is that our Republican leaders lately have been so dumb. We've been electing them, under some protest, because that's who the party has been putting up there, and they're at least better, to our mind, than the opposition, i.e., they generally support our beliefs. It's frustrating that they don't get our message across, and that a few of these dim bulbs have let us get stereotyped as a bunch of right-wing Christian killjoy fanatics who are obsessed with the president's sex habits.

Thank God we win in the character department. Maybe Ronnie Regan used to forget his keys a lot, but his personal principles and his belief in the American system were unimpeachable. The same can be said, pretty much, for Bob Dole and all the Bushes, and even jerks like Henry Hyde.

With luck, the Democrats will keep putting up people like Gore and the Clintons long enough for us to get our act together again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST,Abe L.
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 10:29 PM

I started this thread only partly tongue in cheek & its good to know that folks like you are still out there, GRNJ- just wish you'd speak up a bit & have the "dim bulbs" relegated to the obscurity they deserve-

Best Regards-


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: rangeroger
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 10:34 PM

I've always enjoyed Utah Phillips slant on the subject: A Republican is like a refrigerator.Open the door,the light goes on. Close the door, the light goes off.They're programmed to do what they're told. Being a Democrat is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
I've got a 1962 45 single by the Spotnicks of Orange Blossom Special done with all electric instruments.Absolutely kicks butt.
rr


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: JamesJim
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 10:47 PM

Guest-Abe, please go to another forum. We're about unity and civility here and this is a folk music forum. Sure, music has played and will continue to play a huge role in politics. If you'd like to approach this from that angle, start another thread and I'm sure you will get meaningful response. Otherwise, you set yourself up as a prime example of what you term, "dumbing down."


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Mbo
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 11:08 PM

Hey, Ronald Reagan DID give the military a big pay raise, and in our family, that meant something...we have always held Reagan in high regard in our house, even if he did forget stuff.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Kelida
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 11:26 PM

Personally, I think that to be a politician, you have to win the support of the people, no matter where you are. Since people in general are not very intelligent when in groups (no offense, since the Mudcat is like a group, and everyone here seems intelligent to me), it stands to reason that they would be attracted to other people that lack intelligence. This led to so-called democracy. So-called because less than half of the eligible voter in America are registered, and less than half of the registered voters actually vote--not exactly a full democracy. The American government has inspired a lot of apathy in people, and the people who do vote are either people who really care and want to make things better for everyone, or selfish people who are determined to get their own opinions shoved down everyone elses' throats come hell or high water. On the other hand, those who don't vote have no right to complain--if you study up on the issues and people ahead of time, it only takes a few minutes to do. Also--if you don't like the Republican or Democratic candidates, DON'T VOTE FOR 'EM!! There are dozens of other parties out there that you might agree with, and look on the bright side: even if your candidate doesn't win, every vote that doesn't go for Bush or Gore goes against them. No vote is ever wasted. . .

Peace--Keli


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: The Beanster
Date: 28 Apr 00 - 12:00 AM

Thanks for that posting, GRNJ. You made me feel a little better about Republicans. Like Abe L., I too, used to respect the opinions of Republicans, even though I disagreed. They seemed to have some true convictions, some strength of character, some integrity. But beginning in about 1991, just before Clinton's first election, I would see them on TV and listen to what they said: my eyes would bug out and my mouth would pop open. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. It scared the crap outta me because it became painfully obvious to me that we were not dealing with rational minds. It was as if the party became so desperate, any route to victory would suffice--they would try ANY tactic--even jump on the Ralph Reed Neo Nazi bandwagon. I remember Bush even saying that he would do "anything" (and that's literally, a quote) to win the election. Very scary. I know that to Republicans, this sounds way over the top but that's the way I truly felt (and feel to this day) about Republicans--they're scary. So, back to my point, it's nice to hear a rational Republican voice here. I suspect that you, GRNJ, are more representative of the party than are the talking heads we see in positions of power.

As far as Reagan is concerned (and I'm sure after he dies, they'll re-run this), there is a documentary out there that aired a few times on PBS that shows him at a speaking engagement where the teleprompter konks out. The man stops dead, cannot think on his own AT ALL. He stops speaking and a look of vague panic crosses his blank face. No one knows what to do. Then Nancy, standing beside him, whispers something into his ear, trying, I suppose, to tell him what to say but a second or two after that the teleprompter is running again and he resumes speaking. Scariest thing I ever saw. This was long before the Alzheimer's issue was ever disclosed but it was no surprise when they finally announced it. The same teleprompter snafu has plagued Clinton also, but the guy is so sharp and knows what he wants to say in such detail that whenever it happens, it's undetectable--it's even happened during the State of the Union address and you KNOW, that's a loooong speech. Say what you will about Clinton, he is one brilliant guy and an amazing speaker.

And one last thing, speaking of Republicans--what is the deal with the hair, for Pete's sake? James Traficant?? (a 1966 bouffant) and Trent Lott?? Gives me the heebee jeebees.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Apr 00 - 06:59 AM

From: JamesJim

Guest-Abe, please go to another forum. We're about unity
and civility here and this is a folk music forum.


Hmmm --- I wonder -----



RE: I'm scared of Americans and Guns
From: JamesJim
20-Apr-00
Does a water gun count? I have two of em'.

Subject: RE: Folk Songs for Conservatives
From: JamesJim
Date: 13-Apr-00
I don't know what she would think, but I bet she has smoked some of it.
And I'll bet she inhaled.

Subject: RE: Folk Songs for Conservatives
From: ddw
Date: 13-Apr-00 - 12:42 AM
JamesJim — wasn't it Winston Churchill who said (paraphrasing here)
"A young man who isn't a liberal has no heart; an older man who isn't a conservative has no brain"?

Subject: RE: Folk Songs for Conservatives
From: JamesJim
Date: 13-Apr-00
Words of wisdom, ddw!

Subject: RE: BS: News of the day
From: JamesJim
Date: 26-Apr-00
No one will care what Bill Clinton did in the Oval office, much
less reflect on any part he had in the history of the universe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brain-Dead Republicans
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 28 Apr 00 - 07:57 AM

First of all, never ascribe to malice that which can more likely be ascribed to stupidity -- but the corollary is that the presence of stupidity is no guarantee that malice is involved.

I'm pretty disgusted with both the Reps & Dems right now and the election process is way too long, takes too much money and doesn't give us representation.(Or even a choice, fer pete's sake) And remember, the Republicans weren't always extreme right fundamentalist sucking crypto fascists.

I'm probably an anarcho-capitalist. Or maybe I'm just advocating a return to feudalism -- I'll take my chances on being a noble.

Bat Goddess


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