Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: mactheturk
Date: 03 May 00 - 12:14 AM

These discursions have a soporific effect on me. I shall unplug my piezoelectric bouzouki and retire.

Till the morrow,

MP.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: northfolk/al cholger
Date: 02 May 00 - 11:45 PM

More evidence that sesquipedelian terminology obfuscates rumination...

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: The Beanster
Date: 01 May 00 - 11:59 PM

Chocolate Pi--thanks for all that info. Math has always been the bane of my existence and when my computer realized the link was taking us to "mathworld," I thought it was going to explode! But we both survived and are feeling much better now, thank you. And thanks for that SETI page--very informative...

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: mactheturk
Date: 01 May 00 - 11:33 PM

Vassar Clements started out as a young member of Bill Monroe's Bluegrass Boys.He also played with Jim and Jesse and the Virginia Boys.

Though best known for his outstanding work with the fiddle, Vassar is also a master of the cello and the viola.

He is also known to have coined the phrase, "before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water... after enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.

Mr. Clements is also a fine vocalist.

Goodnight John,

MP

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 01 May 00 - 09:41 PM

Please tell me more about Vassar Clemens. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Mbo
Date: 01 May 00 - 09:28 PM

Well SOMEONE loves Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead as much as me & my sister do!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: GUEST, NhoJ
Date: 01 May 00 - 09:25 PM

I dardn't lik the disslektic joka.
you shood havs mor cosniderition

Nhoj, increddibbly pished aff.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Caitrin
Date: 01 May 00 - 07:54 PM

Guildenstern: What in God's name is going on?
Rosencrantz: Foul! No rhetoric. Two-one.
G: What does it all add up to?
R: Can't you guess?
G: Were you addressing me?
R: Is there anyone else?
G: Who?
R: How would I know?
G: Why do you ask?
R: Are you serious?
G: Was that rhetoric?
R: No.
G: Statement! Two-all. Game point.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:58 PM

Why o why has no one posted the old standby:
DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD, UNTIE!

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: GUEST
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:11 PM

"In a multitude of words, there wanteth not sin." --Proverbs 10:19.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: mactheturk
Date: 01 May 00 - 09:50 AM

Stewie,

If you enjoy Tut Taylor you might want to grab a copy of John Hartfords' "Aereo-Plain" CD(Rounder Records). It features Mr. Taylor along with Norman Blake, Vassar Clements and Randy Scruggs.

A masterstroke, par excellence.

Resume de novo,

MP(humble student)

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Stewie
Date: 01 May 00 - 07:57 AM

Mactheturk, I omitted to mention that I loved your Tut Taylor quote - and his dobro playing. I haven't heard any of his stuff for a while, but I have a couple of delightful albums of his from the 70s: 'The Old Post Office' and 'Friar Tut' - also some recordings with Brother Oswald, Charlie Collins and Norman Blake. Thanks for reminding me of a fine player.

Cheers, Stewie.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: paddymac
Date: 01 May 00 - 04:38 AM

Aye, Lad, wid a tipple to boot! Delightful thread.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Bugsy
Date: 01 May 00 - 03:30 AM

So, Who fancies a Guinness?

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Stewie
Date: 01 May 00 - 02:19 AM

Mactheturk, what self-styled deipnosophists are in need of is a dottle to dam their desipient dialogue.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Mbo
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:33 AM

try writing yer own website in html, Pi! It's lotsa fun!

--Mbo

Subject: html fix
From: GUEST,Chocolate Pi
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:28 AM

eep!
bad html.
link is here
and here's some seti stuff.
after transcribing a whole short story into html 4.0 compliant last week, you'd think I'd be able to write a single link, but no...

Chocolate Pi

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: GUEST,Chocolate Pi (still on macOS)
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:21 AM

IANAM (I am not a mathematician), but a FFT is basically modeling a complicated periodic function by the addition of overlapping sine and cosine functions. The equation of a Fourier series is: (ah, for LaTeX format; sigh)
f(x) = 1/2 a0 + the summation from n=0 to infinity of an cos(nx) + the summation from n=0 to infinity of sin(nx).
The Fourier transform is: f(x) = integral from negative to positive infinity of F(k) * e^-2pi*i*k*x dk. What all those variables are, I have no idea. Lots of math manipulation Setiathome uses FFTs to try to find patterns in the periodic waves and fit curves to the distributions of values. I've been reading about them in analyzing the dark noise in rod cells; a current is continuously produced in the abscence of light stimulus, which has various types of noise produced from transduction mechanisms and random release of synaptic vesicles.
hth.

Chocolate Pi (still in MacOS without my cookie but with Appletalk that recognizes the printer)

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 May 00 - 01:19 AM

Set and Match!!

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Mbo
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:24 AM

NO RHETORIC!!!

Game and set!!!!

--Mbo

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: The Beanster
Date: 01 May 00 - 12:21 AM

Speaking of psychopharmacology...

But seriously, Chocolate Pi, what IS a fast Fourier transform? I have the SETI screensaver on my computer and it has one of those...please explain. Or, so as not to bore people to tears, you can always send me a PM if you would be so kind.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 11:53 PM

Now that we have your attention.....

"Language does not serve humankind only for communication any more than food serves only for nourishment" John Keats

"Ultimately, the pick is mightier than the pen" Tut Taylor,Founder Dobrolic Plectrum Society

"but it's more than just words that got spoken there was language of the heart" David Wilcox

"let's give em somethin' to talk about" Bonnie Rait

It's nice to know your listening, and you were saying......

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 11:19 PM

I would advise, when articulating such superficial, thrasonical bombast, to beware of platitudinous ponderosity and polysyllabic vacuity.

Otherwise, if you just cannot eschew obfuscation, go here

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 10:31 PM

Must be some kinda textual depravity is all I can say.

~S~

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 10:29 PM

VERY GOOD, Madame Pi! A coup d'etat!! (as my dad would say a "coop de-tat")

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: GUEST,Chocolate Pi(using macOS)
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 10:21 PM

my goodness; I thought nobody did that outside of the papers I've had to edit or read for class:
"By geting at what we call harmony, they would then see that an orchestra score, to be meaningful, must be read diachronically along one aciz and synchronically along the other ais, all the notes written vertically making up one gross constituent unit, that is, one bundle of relations."
"The voltage during a steady state was filtered (by a model 3550 filter, Krone Hite Inc.) to pass frequencies between 0.2 and 180 Hz and then digitized at 512 Hz to yeild a data block containing 16, 384 points. Each data block was divided into thirty-one half-overlapped segments, each contiaing 1024 ponts. Each segment was multiplied bya Hamming window, and its power density spectrum calculated via a fast Fourier transform. The preliminary spectra obtained for the thirty-one segmenst were averaged to produce a semi-final power density spectrum."
"The study of beauty is a duel in which the artist shreiks with terror before being overcome."


Chocolate Pi (experiencing homework crunchtime and wishing my lpd daemon worked so I didn't have to switch OSen to print)

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 10:08 PM

Tom fool flummery, foockin up the threads with flaming foolishness.......(somebody gonna yell at ya'll...:>)

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 09:37 PM

Yahoo young Stewie,

Enough of this nendelian nonsense!! You may know your peas,but you certainly haven't learned your cues. Or should I say,"you may be conversant with your pinnate- leaved legumes, but you fail to apprehend you verbal stimuli!"

Fockin' A,

MP(Deipnosophist, no doubt)

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 09:03 PM

aaaaaayyyyy.........Fockin'A right Bubba.....well told Stewie.......Wellallright.............fockin' A.........

Spaw

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Stewie
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 08:53 PM

Nothing less than a fullstop - but to come to the quiddity of his query, his wife must feel that, because of his quisquilian and quisquous quawking, he is a quacksalver with all the charisma of a quahog. One could forgive her if she quackled him.

Yours, Stewie.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 08:29 PM

A gallimaufry, perhaps? Banzai Baby!
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 08:17 PM

Dear Peter the Pugnacious Pundit,

My semi-colon not withstanding, please forgive this gallinaceous and bovine narrative. It was not my intent to be either didactic or exegetic.

Sayonara Mon Ami,

MP

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 08:10 PM

Peter...You're right. Then again, anyone processing that much crap without a real colon is deep in the shit...uh, so to speak..............

Spaw

Subject: RE: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 07:50 PM

This may come from the absence of an appropriate semi-colon.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: Sapient Rhetoricians Unite!!
From: mactheturk
Date: 30 Apr 00 - 07:18 PM

It seems lately I have been discussing a farrago of subjects, ranging from xyloglyphy and pschopharmacology to cynegetics and typhology, with friends of similar views, however, my wife has asserted, of late, that I may have been afflicted with severe logorrhea!

Any thoughts?

MP