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Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer (Bob Wills?)

billssss@gnn.com (Bill Schilling) 23 Nov 96 - 03:42 AM
Justin Kodner (jkodn@prolifics.com) 10 Dec 96 - 11:44 AM
dick greenhaus 10 Dec 96 - 08:22 PM
Bill 11 Dec 96 - 04:34 AM
Bill Foster 11 Dec 96 - 10:20 AM
Justin jkodn@prolifics.com 20 Jan 97 - 10:14 AM
belter 24 Jan 97 - 10:25 AM
ah827@rgfn.epcc.edu (Gene Graham) 05 Feb 97 - 01:10 PM
wfoster@unanov.una.edu [Bill Foster] 05 Feb 97 - 04:09 PM
ah827@rgfn.epcc.edu (Gene Graham) 05 Feb 97 - 06:07 PM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 04 Apr 00 - 05:33 PM
John in Brisbane 04 Apr 00 - 11:37 PM
GUEST,Bob Coltman 05 Feb 07 - 02:40 PM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 05 Feb 07 - 11:45 PM
GUEST,Guest, Tim 06 Feb 07 - 12:27 AM
Scoville 06 Feb 07 - 01:04 PM
GUEST 10 Feb 12 - 10:29 PM
GUEST,Jim Wilkins 19 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM
Mark Clark 19 Apr 13 - 11:53 AM
Mark Clark 19 Apr 13 - 12:24 PM
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Ron Davies 20 Apr 13 - 08:45 AM
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Subject: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: billssss@gnn.com (Bill Schilling)
Date: 23 Nov 96 - 03:42 AM

A member of my club has asked if I can help her out by coming up with the music and lyrics for Bob Wills' "Maiden's Prayer." I did some searching to no avail at the Bob Wills sites mentioned on San Antonio Rose, so thought I'd try this approach. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: Justin Kodner (jkodn@prolifics.com)
Date: 10 Dec 96 - 11:44 AM

There's a song "Maiden's Prayer" from before Bob Wills' time. I don't know if Wills ever did it. It doesn't sound like Bob Wills material. Eddie Cantor sang it in the Zeigfield Follies. I can copy the lyrics if you want them (I have an old tape of it). Let me know.


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 10 Dec 96 - 08:22 PM

Hi Justin-

Send 'em in. Go for it!


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: Bill
Date: 11 Dec 96 - 04:34 AM

Howdy Justin,

Although I haven't found any copies of the music my friend is looking for, the resources are suggesting that both Maiden's Prayer and Cherokee Maiden were performed by Bob Wills. So please send the lyrics in if it's not too much of a problem, and it may end up being an interesting historical trivia bit to throw in with the song.

Allinkausay, Bill


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: Bill Foster
Date: 11 Dec 96 - 10:20 AM

Justin

I have played back-up for many fiddle players who use "Maiden's Prayer" as a show piece or a contest piece. Bob Wills may have performed/recorded it, but I believe that the song pre-dates Wills by at least a couple of generations. I have heard this song most often as an instrumental, but I believe Mac Wiseman sang it in a jam session I took part in many years ago. I'll see if maybe I have the words somewhere. In the meantime, good luck. If you find the words, please email them to me.

wfoster@unanov.una.edu (Bill Foster)


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: Justin jkodn@prolifics.com
Date: 20 Jan 97 - 10:14 AM

Sorry I didn't respond sooner but I really don't think the Eddie Cantor version is related to what you're looking for. I listened to it again and it's actually called, "20th Century Maiden's Prayer". It pokes fun at suffragettes and gold diggers and ends with:

And if my marriage proves to be phoney, Give me lots of alimony, That is the 20th century maiden's prayer.


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: belter
Date: 24 Jan 97 - 10:25 AM

On a tv show called old time country on Iowa public tv last night they played an instrumentel soung called maidens prayer. I don't know if that's a useful sorce.


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Subject: Lyr Add: A MAIDEN'S PRAYER
From: ah827@rgfn.epcc.edu (Gene Graham)
Date: 05 Feb 97 - 01:10 PM

Twilight shadows fall, ev'ning shadows hide
There 'neath the stars, a maiden so fair, divine
The moon on high, seems to see her there
In her eyes was a light, shinin' ever so bright
As she whispered a silent prayer.
Ev'ry word revealed an empty broken heart
Broken by fate that holds them so far apart
Lonely there she kneels and tells the stars above
In her arms he belongs, in her prayer is a song
An unending song of love.

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 4-Apr-02.


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: wfoster@unanov.una.edu [Bill Foster]
Date: 05 Feb 97 - 04:09 PM

The lyrics sent in by Gene Graham are the ones that I recall hearing from Mac Wiseman. Bob Wills did record it, but I have no idea on which album. If you have access to any old-time fiddlers, I suspect that you would have no trouble acquiring the tune; it's been my experience that this is one of the most frequently-played contest tunes in the "tune of choice" category.


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Subject: Lyr Add: A MAIDEN'S PRAYER (sung by Bob Wills)
From: ah827@rgfn.epcc.edu (Gene Graham)
Date: 05 Feb 97 - 06:07 PM

Here's the Bob Will's version recorded March 9, 1954

A MAIDEN'S PRAYER

Twilight shadows fall, ev'ning shadows hide
There 'neath the stars, a maiden so fair, divine
The moon on high, seems to see her there
In her eyes was a light, shinnin' ever so bright
As she whispered a silent prayer.

Ev'ry word revealed an empty broken heart
Broken by fate that holds them so far apart
Lonely there she kneels and tells the stars above
In her arms he belongs, in her prayer is a song
An unending song of love.

Twilight falls - ev'ning shadows find
there 'neath the stars
A maiden so fair - divine
All alone I seem to see her there
In her eyes is a light - shinning ever so bright
She whispered a silent prayer.

Ev'ry word revealed her empty broken heart
Broken by fate that holds them so far apart
Lonely there she kneels and tells the stars above
In her arms he belongs - in her heart is a song
An undying song of love.


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 05:33 PM

Hmm. I'm looking for a song with the same name, and similar tune to the Bob Wills tune.

However, it was (I think) sung by a man and what I remember seems to end with a woman meeting her man at a bridge.

Would anyone recall that version? I believe it was from the seventies. I was thinking Ray Price, but it doesn't seem to be in his discography.


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Subject: RE: Maiden's Prayer Music & Lyric Request
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 04 Apr 00 - 11:37 PM

You'll find the MIDI for Maiden's Prayer at http://www.zianet.com/jpierce/MaidenP.mid

BOB Wills was the subject of a thread a few months ago and sommeone kindly gave a link to a site with lots of tunes, including Cherokee Maiden as I recall. Unfortunately I no longer have that link. Regards, John


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 02:40 PM

George Seto, at a guess you may be looking for "(They Stood) On the Bridge at Midnight," which if I remember correctly may have been adapted from a Longfellow poem???


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 11:45 PM

Hi Bob. Thanks. IT was back around 30 years ago. I remember the DJ would introduce it as A Maiden's Prayer, and the tune for the Bob Wills' tune seems to be very similar to what my memory has. My memory tells me that it ended with the woman turning around and there he was. I thought it was Ray Price but it doesn't seem to be in his discography so I'm at a loss right now.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer
From: GUEST,Guest, Tim
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 12:27 AM

Bob Wills recorded, "A Maiden's Prayer," seven times over the years. His first recording of it was on, Sept. 23, 1935, so this pre dates Mac Wiseman. Bob Wills claims writer credit on all his recordings of the song. He surely is responsible for the lyric but he may have used an older melody. He did that with his most famous fiddle tune, "Faded Love."
The midi version is real close to the melody that Bob used. The words are correct.
Tim Ausburn


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer
From: Scoville
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 01:04 PM

THe melody is pretty simple, realy.


There was also an excellent two-fiddle instrumental version on the Jay Ungar/Lyn Hardy LP Catskill Mountain Goose Chase if you can track down a copy. Very different from Wills'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer (Bob Wills?)
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 12 - 10:29 PM

My great uncle would do a funny poem that was called a 20th century maidens prayer he would act out ( he was in ww1) and had the shakes from gas warfare which made big impression on me as child watching all this ... It began with him dropping on his knees and clasping his hands and singing " oh give me lots of beaus.. " I can't remember much more I know it was a farce and that he was always remembered as a fun character ...


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer (Bob Wills?)
From: GUEST,Jim Wilkins
Date: 19 Apr 13 - 10:04 AM

"A Maiden's Prayer" (original Polish title: Modlitwa dziewicy Op. 4, French: La prière d'une vierge) is a composition of Polish composer Tekla Bądarzewska-Baranowska (1834–1861), which was published in 1856 in Warsaw, and then as a supplement to the Revue et gazette musicale de Paris in 1859. The piece is a medium difficulty short piano piece for intermediate pianists. Some have liked it for its charming and romantic melody; others have described it as "sentimental salon tosh." The pianist and academic Arthur Loesser described it as "this dowdy product of ineptitude."

The American musician Bob Wills heard "Maiden's Prayer" played on a fiddle while he was a barber in Roy, New Mexico,[1] and arranged the piece in the Western swing style. Wills first recorded it as an instrumental in 1935 (Vocalion 03924, released in 1938),[2][3] and it quickly became one of his signature tunes. Later, it became a standard recorded by many country artists, including Buck Owens on his number-one 1965 album I've Got a Tiger By the Tail.[4] The tune is still a standard in the repertoire of Western swing bands.

Wills wrote lyrics for "Maiden's Prayer" and recorded it again in 1941 (Okeh 06205) with vocals by Tommy Duncan.[5] His lyrics reflect the title, and the song, as written by Wills, opens with:
Twilight falls, evening shadows find,There 'neath the stars, a maiden so fair divine.The moon on high seemed to see her there.In her eyes is a light, shining ever so bright,She whispered a silent prayer.
Relatively few country singers have covered "Maiden's Prayer" with vocals, but they include Ray Price on his tribute album San Antonio Rose (1962)[6] and Willie Nelson on his album Red Headed Stranger (on the 2000 CD reissue but not the 1975 LP).[7] Both singers used the lyrics written by Wills with minor variations, e.g. the maiden is an Indian in Price's version.

Wills recorded the song a third time on the 1963 album Bob Wills Sings and Plays.[2] When he was inducted into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1970, "Maiden's Prayer" was one of the works cited.

Hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer (Bob Wills?)
From: Mark Clark
Date: 19 Apr 13 - 11:53 AM

Great work, Jim. Thanks.

Here's a link to a YouTube of the original.

Also, the Mandolin Café Web site has this ABC file evidently based on the version in the Fiddler's Fakebook
X:1
T:Maiden's Prayer
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:A
B:The Fiddler's Fake Book, p. 182.
"A"A,4-A,CEA|[c8A8]|(3BcB Ac B2 AG|"D"EF3-F4|"E"{Bc}d4 {Bc}d3 e-|
d4 dcB2|ece2 (3fgf e2|"A"Bc2 dcBA2|A,4-A,CEA|B c2 dcBA2|
B3 c (3BcB A=G|"D"EF3-F2 (3agf |"A"ec e2 "D"fa-(3agf|
"A"ec e2 "D"a2-(3agf|"A"ec e2 "E"c'3e|"A"a8|]

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer (Bob Wills?)
From: Mark Clark
Date: 19 Apr 13 - 12:24 PM

And now I see Masato beat me to the punch seven and a half years ago.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer (Bob Wills?)
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Apr 13 - 12:28 PM

I have a story about this. Some years ago, as I was leaving an evening of music, a fiddler pressed a piece of paper into my hand. See if you can make a song out of this, he said.

I took it home and found fragments of phrases. They were awfully flowery, not at all my usual style and I threw out a good many of the lines.   Frankly, I thought he had written a revealing indiscretion but I did the best I could, added a refrain because it seemed to call for it and came up with a slow but pretty waltz tune. When I gave it back to him I thought he had an odd expression on his face but hey, a guilty conscience, right?

A year or so later, I found most of my song on the web- on Maiden's Prayer, a tune I had played for years without ever knowing there were lyrics.
So now I have a song I can't sing. :) But here it is:

Twilight falls, evening shadows find
There 'neath the stars a fair maiden divine
The moon up on high seems to see her there
In her eyes there's a light, shining ever so bright
As she whispers this prayer:

Chorus:
Oh come back to me. Moon, bring him to me
You glittering stars were there when we met
Oh, love of my years- your children I'll bear
Oh come back to me, please listen to me
Forgive and forget

Every word reveals a sad, aching heart
He's broken her faith and now they're apart
Alone there she kneels, tells the stars above
In his arms she belongs. In her prayer there's a song
Of undying love


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Maiden's Prayer (Bob Wills?)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 Apr 13 - 08:45 AM

That's fascinating, Ebbie.   It seems clear the fiddler had heard both the words and the tune to the Bob Wills hit---no doubt he plays the tune all the time. But hadn't heard the words--(which as noted above were not in Bob's original hit version, but added later)-- for quite a while.   If you try, it's not hard to fit your fiddler's words into the Bob Wills "Maiden's Prayer" tune--which, as noted, he didn't write but adapted.    You do have to be careful where the accents fall in order to fit the fiddler's words to the tune.    Not having for a long time heard the words sometimes sung to this tune --since it's overwhelmingly done as an instrumental-- the fiddler made up his own words, with snatches of the earlier lyrics included.

Perfect "folk process".


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