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BS: Magic Tricks

John in Brisbane 04 May 00 - 07:51 PM
GUEST,Presto! 04 May 00 - 08:53 PM
John in Brisbane 07 May 00 - 07:16 AM
Stilly River Sage 05 Mar 03 - 11:41 PM
Bullfrog Jones 06 Mar 03 - 04:49 AM
Nigel Parsons 06 Mar 03 - 06:16 AM
Jeanie 06 Mar 03 - 06:17 AM
Nigel Parsons 06 Mar 03 - 06:28 AM
Nigel Parsons 06 Mar 03 - 06:31 AM
Amos 06 Mar 03 - 08:36 AM
Stilly River Sage 06 Mar 03 - 09:36 AM
Nigel Parsons 06 Mar 03 - 10:39 AM
Bill D 06 Mar 03 - 10:39 AM
Dave Bryant 06 Mar 03 - 12:26 PM
GUEST,Stilly River Sage 06 Mar 03 - 01:14 PM
Amos 06 Mar 03 - 02:34 PM
Bill D 06 Mar 03 - 03:11 PM
Stilly River Sage 06 Mar 03 - 03:52 PM
Sam L 07 Mar 03 - 12:09 PM
khandu 07 Mar 03 - 09:25 PM
Nigel Parsons 01 Apr 03 - 04:57 AM
Dave Bryant 01 Apr 03 - 05:58 AM
Nigel Parsons 01 Apr 03 - 06:17 AM
GUEST,Les B. 01 Apr 03 - 04:52 PM
SINSULL 01 Apr 03 - 06:20 PM

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Subject: Magic Tricks
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 04 May 00 - 07:51 PM

I'm compering a magic show as part of a school fete in a weeks time where primary school kids will (hopefully) be doing some magic tricks. It would be useful if I could try a couple (they don't have to work). Does anyone have any clues please - or perhaps direct me to a suitable site. I doubt that I'll have time to visit a magic shoppe. Regards, John


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: GUEST,Presto!
Date: 04 May 00 - 08:53 PM

Try:

SEARCH for [magic tricks]
or CLICK below:

* MAGIC TRICKS *


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 07 May 00 - 07:16 AM

Thanks Presto, your links did the trick. Regards, John


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 11:41 PM

Well, this old thread looks as good as any to post this little gem in:

Try this. I haven't figured out the trick yet. . .

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 04:49 AM

Wow SRS! Different symbol every time, but always the right one! That's magic.
My favourite one for impressing kids:
1. Think of a number between 2 and 10.
2. Multiply it by 9.
3. Add the resulting two digits together.
4. Take away five.
5. If 1=A, 2=B, 3=C etc., give your number a letter.
6. Think of a country beginning with that letter.
7. Now take the last letter of the country and think of an animal beginning with that letter.
8. Now take the last letter of the animal and think of a colour beginning with that letter.
9.So now you're thinking of a colour, an animal and a country..........
.................
.................
.................
Do they have orange kangaroos in Denmark?

BJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:16 AM

Bullfrog: that one usually works, but can be upset if someone thinks of Djibouti or Dominican republic.
Asking for a European country can still get bogged down with Kinkajou, koala, or koala bear.

Nigel (an awkward sod!)

But I agree, that magic mirror seems to work and I can't see how. First I thought it was going to be a catch, giving all answers as multiples of 9 the same symbol, but that wouldn't work. I don't have a camera attached, so I don't see how it could trace eye movements. If it based on anything else it would seem to make a good case for telepathy!

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Jeanie
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:17 AM

Here's something extremely silly from "It Gives Me Great Pleasure - Chairman's Handbook for Old Time Music Hall" by Michael Kilgarriff:

For my next experiment, I would like the assistance of a young lady from the audience... can I have a volunteer ?....thank you dear. And your name ? Jane ? Thank you so much for making a fool - for coming up. Now then, I want you to take this packet of sausages... please examine them carefully and ensure that they are just ordinary everyday sausages - beef, of course. Everything is kosher in this show .... are you satisfied ? Thank you. I will now ask you to shuffle the sausages..... that's right, mix them up well and truly and give them back to me... I will now fan the sausages out and avert my gaze....Will you, Jane, take one of the sausages ? Any one at random.... have you done that ? Please show it to the audience.... you don't want to change your mind ? Very well, now I want you to memorise that sausage. Have you done that ? Good, now place it back in the pack... Take the sausages and give them a good shuffle.... Give them back to me and I will endeavour, through my psychic powers, to determine which is the sausage that you selected.... (throwing them into the audience one at a time). It's not that one, not that one, not that one.... but THAT one, Jane, is your sausage ! (Applause, Applause)

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:28 AM

That magic had me going for a while, but all the maths always gives a multiple of 9. So all multiples of 9 are the same symbol. You concentrate on that symbol and it shows it to you.
Your concentration moves from the symbol table to the globe, you see your answer and the table is replaced by the words "Can't believe it? try again. When the chart again replaces the words it is a different chart, with a new symbol identifying all the multiples of 9, thus the answers will still be the same, but the symbol will have changed.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 06:31 AM

Of course, 90 & 99 do not need to show the same symbol as the other multiples of 9 as they cannot be answers to the subtractions.
Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 08:36 AM

Good analysis, Nigel. I did fool it using "00" as starters. Messed it up.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 09:36 AM

Good one, Nigel! I didn't give it enough times to see the changing pattern, and of course, didn't think to try the SAME number several times to see what came of it. But its a good trick--I'll turn the kids loose on it this evening.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 10:39 AM

Amos: not quite fair, "00" is not a number, it is not even a mathematical concept. If seen between one or more digits and the decimal point it can be valid, but as a 'stand alone' it would always be rendered as '0' and so not a "Two digit number" which the question asked for.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 10:39 AM

I have seen a couple of those, and the psychology of it is fascinating.

Many people LIKE the feeling that it is magic. When someone shows them the trick, they are mildly disappointed. The big TV magic shows where railroad cars and such disappear are VERY carefully done with camera angles and mirrors, etc...but folks love "believing", if only briefly.

Since I don't do math easily, I can't explain the trick above, even though I 'know' it is a trick, and I was, as I say, 'mildly' disappointed to realize how it works. Ain't we funny?


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:26 PM

The maths is easy - let the number be xy.

The value of the number is 10x + y.
The total of the digits is x + y.
therefore the difference is 10x + y - (x + y) = 10x + y - x - y)= 9x

Since x is always an integer 9x is always a multiple of 9.


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 01:14 PM

I understood it before Dave. . . now I'm not so sure! ;-)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Amos
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 02:34 PM

SRS -- the reason "The value of the number is 10x + y" for a two-digit number is that the two digits represent values in the decimal system. The right one is y * 1, and the left one is x*10.

But adding them together treats them both as though they were in the "ones" column (x+y)*1.

Any clearer, or just more muddy than ever? :>)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 03:11 PM

oh, I'm sure that, as math goes, that is an easy one..*grin*..but just seeing that it IS a math issue isn't obvious to some of us.. (people try to explain music theory to me with about the same results..transposing a song to a different key is MUCH easier on the Autoharp! ;>))..

On the other hand, I do spatial relationships, vector forces, time & language quite well...and I can program and reset most VCRs without looking at the manual. (I 'can' deal with simple algebra and geometry for problem solving, but the concepts, qua concepts, just don't fit my brain cells.


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 03:52 PM

maybe I should have added a *wink* to that quip?


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Sam L
Date: 07 Mar 03 - 12:09 PM

Well, I tried this once before and my post didn't take.

I did magic quite a lot as a kid, and one of my favorite bits was the one where a full wine glass appears in your hand, in a strange animated way, from under a handkercheif or cloth.

   You get a wine glass, a plastic one may work, a piece of thin rubber to fit over the top, held on by a rubber band. That will contain the juice or wine or whatever. And you have to make a little wire clip to hang the glass upside-down from your belt, behing your back. It has to come off easy.

It's clever and artful--I was always disappointed in tricks that were only one or the other, no matter how good they looked. You show your hands are empty. You show both sides of the cloth--a bit carefully, deliberately, and while you do this one hand lifts the wine glass and brings it under the cloth, held upside-down between the fingers so the base lies flat on your open palm.

   Then it's fun to clasp your palm in little teasing motions, making the glass come upright as if materializing. The rubber and rubber band snatch off and away as you take off the cloth. Full wine glass.


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: khandu
Date: 07 Mar 03 - 09:25 PM

I can make a turtle disappear! "How?" you ask, incredulously!

Flush the toilet and a turd'll disappear!



Sorry.

Ken


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 04:57 AM

Fred Miller: presumably you then drink the wine to show that there really was liquid in the glass.
Not magic, but a useful time waster for a compere is seeing how quickly a pint of beer can be drunk. With preparation the compere can set a really good time. The preparation is to glue a whisky tumbler upside down in a beer glass. When filled with beer the glass will appear normal, and will empty as normal, but the quantity consumed is much less.

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 05:58 AM

There's always the old "21 card trick".

1. Select 21 cards from a standard pack.
2. Get someone to look through them and memorise a card.
3. Deal them, face down, into three "hands" of seven cards.
4. Let the person look through the "hands" and then tell you which one their card is in - you can turn your back while they're doing this.
5. Place the indicated "hand" between the other two.
6. Repeat 3 - 5 two more times.
7. Count the first 10 cards off the top (from either end) the eleventh will be the memorised card.

This is really just a way of performing a type of "chop sort" which ensures that the card will reach the centre of the deck. I think it should work with 24 or 27 cards as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 06:17 AM

Dave: only problem with that is step 4; if they have seen the trick before they could move the card to the top or bottom of the indicated "hand" while your back is turned (possibly while showing the card to the audience), this upsets the 'ordering' of the cards

Nigel


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: GUEST,Les B.
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 04:52 PM

As I vaguely remember seeing the "21 card" trick, years ago, you either deal the cards face up into the piles, or, alternately, fan the cards in front of the person and they then indicate which pile their card is in - this way they don't disturb the order.


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Subject: RE: BS: Magic Tricks
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 06:20 PM

http://www.conjuror.com/magictricks/freetricks.shtml

Her you go! Lots of basic free tricks that will amaze them. Have fun!

My son was an amateur magician and we spent many a Sunday in the Empire State Building where the world's most famous magic store used to be - can't for the life of it remember the name. "Pick a card. Any card", a phrase that still sends me running screaming for cover.

But like folkies, magicians tend to be a very supportive and generous group. I was always amazed at the patience and encouragement they offered everyone who showed an interest.


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