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Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances

lloyd64 08 May 00 - 10:34 PM
Jacob B 09 May 00 - 09:43 AM
Sorcha 09 May 00 - 11:42 AM
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Subject: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: lloyd64
Date: 08 May 00 - 10:34 PM

In the 1800's many young people were not allowed to dance so they invented Party Games (Dances). One of the most popular Party Game was O'le Joe Clark Circle Dance. I have a collection of Party Game Dances but I'm always searching for more.

Any help would be appreciated.

Lloyd


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Jacob B
Date: 09 May 00 - 09:43 AM

Among those I've taught are Go Through And Hurry, Goodbye Girls We're Going To Boston, The Old Brass Wagon, and The Happy Miller. Are any of those something that you don't already have?


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 May 00 - 11:42 AM

I have IraW. Ford's "Traditional Music of America", DeCapo Press, (subsidiary of Plenum Publishing Corp)
227 W. 17th St, New York, NY, 10011 The book was first published in 1940, and re-printed in 1978. Mr. Ford has some documentation problems, such as who, when, where, etc. but he collected a LOT of tunes, including PlayParty dances and tune. Listed are:
Down the Ohio
I Sent My Brown Jug..
Jim Along Jose
Make a Cake for Charley
Old Brass Wagon
Shoot the Buffalo
We'll All Go Down to Rouser's
Also included are lots of Children's Play songs........let me know if you need any of the above, and I will send/post.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: NancyZ
Date: 09 May 00 - 06:53 PM

Lloyd or Jacob, I don't have any to add but would LOVE to learn some of these dances. I teach children barn dances (Virginia Reel,Gay Gordons, Circassian Circle etc..). Your Party Game dances sound fascinating...any chance you have them on line where I could take a look at them? Yours in jiggin' around, Nancy


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: lloyd64
Date: 09 May 00 - 10:00 PM

Jacob…. The only dance I know on your list is "Going Down To Boston." Sorcha… Thank you for your input I am going to try and find this book. NancyZ.. I would be happy to share my dances with you, Post your email address in my personal log. Thanks to all for your input. Lloyd


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: lloyd64
Date: 09 May 00 - 11:30 PM

Traditional Music of America is out of print. Amazon.com is going try and find a copy.

Will keep you posted.

Lloyd


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 May 00 - 02:07 AM

If you will settle for (pirated) xeroxes, let me know, by personal message/e mail, and I will send, if you send surface address.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 May 00 - 02:31 AM

Oh, and loyd, try www.bibliofind.com/, they do out of print books.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 May 00 - 02:33 AM

Should have done this first, see here for a copy of the book for sale. Sorry.


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Subject: Lyr Add: GO THROUGH AND HURRY
From: Jacob B
Date: 10 May 00 - 12:11 PM

It will take me a while to write up all of those. Here's the first one.

GO THROUGH AND HURRY

Four couple longways sets

(First couple sashay down) Go through and hurry, go through and hurry
(First couple sashay back) Go through and hurry, my Alabama gal
(1st couple allemande R once and a half) You don't know how, girl. You don't know how, girl.
(1st couple allem. L twice with 2nd couple) You don't know how, girl, my Alabama gal
(1st couple allem. R twice around) I'll show you how, girl. I'll show you how, girl.
(1st couple allem. L twice with 3rd couple) I'll show you how, girl, my Alabama gal
(1st couple allem. R twice around) Ain't I rock candy, ain't I rock candy.
(1st couple allem. L twice with 4th couple) Ain't I rock candy, my Alabama gal
(Original top couple retires to their own side of set,
new top couple starts the dance)

I have also seen this dance described as being done in longways sets for as many as will, with the top couple doing an elbow reel all the way down, and the new top couple starting the dance when "Go through and hurry" comes around in the lyrics, even though there are other couples who are still in the process of doing the elbow reel.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Jacob B
Date: 10 May 00 - 12:24 PM

By the way, the Country Dance and Song Society has a book of play-party games for sale, on this page.


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Subject: Lyr Add: OLD BRASS WAGON and SHAKE THEM 'SIMMONS..
From: Jacob B
Date: 10 May 00 - 05:27 PM

Some play-parties have the directions for the dance included in them as lyrics. Two of these are The Old Brass Wagon and Shake Them 'Simmons Down.

THE OLD BRASS WAGON is sung to the tune of "Ten Little Indians". A typical set of verses would be:

Circle to the left in the old brass wagon (3x)
You're the one, my darling

Swing your partner, in the old brass wagon (3x)
You're the one, my darling

Promenade in the old brass wagon
You're the one, my darling

The circle and the promenade happen every time. The figure in between them changes every time, at the whim of a caller on the floor.

A typical set of verses for SHAKE THEM 'SIMMONS DOWN would be:

Circle left, doh, doh (3x)
Shake them 'simmons down

Dosido your partner, doh, doh (3x)
Shake them 'simmons down

Swing your corner, doh, doh (3x)
Shake them 'simmons down

Promenade, doh, doh (3x)
Shake them 'simmons down

The dosido is done twice, since that is how much time you have for it. The promenade is with the one you swung. The figures do not change during the course of the dance, but they could vary from one time the dance is done to another.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 May 00 - 05:31 PM

I dunno lloyd.........We can probably come up with 50 or so, but 1800 is an awful lot. You must be plannin' one helluva shindig!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: GUEST,Hotspur
Date: 10 May 00 - 10:46 PM

I don't know how old it is, but there's a great one for younger kids called "Can't Jump Josie." I'd be glad to post it if you are interested.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: GUEST,Hotspur
Date: 10 May 00 - 10:48 PM

The Treasury of American Folklore by B. A. Botkin has a section on play party games too.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Jacob B
Date: 11 May 00 - 12:15 PM


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE HAPPY MILLER and I'VE BEEN TO LONDON
From: Jacob B
Date: 11 May 00 - 12:15 PM

THE HAPPY MILLER

(Couples in front skater position, facing counterclockwise around a big circle. Dance starts with dancers walking forward while singing.)

Happy is the miller who lives by the mill
Mill turns around of its own free will
Hand in the hopper, and the other in the sack
The mill turns around, and we all turn back

(On the last line of the verse, the couples turn to face back the other direction without letting go of hands, by turning on the spot to face each other and then continuing the turn, each one straigtening their bent elbow and bending their straight elbow. The dancers are now facing clockwise around the big circle with the gent on the inside. They walk forward while singing.)

Happy is the miller who lives by the mill
Mill turns around of its own free will
Hand in the hopper, and the other in the sack
The ladies go forward, and the gents turn back

(On the last line of the verse, the gent lets go with his left hand, turns to his left to face back in the other direction, then pulls past his partner. The gents walk forward counterclockwise on the inside of the circle, the ladies walk forward clockwise on the outside of the circle.)

And it's raining, hailing, stormy weather
In comes the farmer, drinking up the cider
In comes the reaper, out goes the binder
I have a true love, where shall I find her?

(On the last two words of the verse, the dancers find a new partner and join up in front skater position facing counterclockwise to start the dance over.)

A nearly identical dance, to a different tune, is I'VE BEEN TO LONDON. (Perhaps it is identical, perhaps not - I only heard this called once, and that was twenty years ago.) The words are:

I've been to London, I've been to Dover,
I have travelled this wide world over
Over, over, three times over
Drink up the brandywine, and turn the glasses over

I've been to London, I've been to Dover,
I have travelled this wide world over
Over, over, three times over
Drink up the brandywine, and turn the glasses over

Sailing east, sailing west
Sailing over the ocean
You better watch out, when you turn the ship around
Or you'll lose your girl in the ocean


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Subject: Lyr Add: GOODBYE GIRLS, WE'RE GOING TO BOSTON
From: Jacob B
Date: 11 May 00 - 02:34 PM

Here's the last of the play parties I mentioned above. This one goes to a song that I'm told is in various songbooks, although I've never seen it in one. Now I'll have to find a way to get the other melodies to you. I plan to become literate in ABC format, but I doubt that I'll have time to do that for a few months. In the meantime, if you're in a hurry to learn these, send me a message, and I'll sing them to you over the phone.


GOODBYE GIRLS, WE'RE GOING TO BOSTON

Four couple longways sets. The chorus of the song is only sung for the right-and-left and elbow reel figures, which take more time.

(All join hands and circle left once around)

Goodbye girls, we're going to Boston (3x)
Ear-lie in the morning

(All face up and take partner in promenade position. Top couple leads promenade to the left, down the outside of the set, and back up the middle of the set to place)

Saddle up girls, and lets go with them (3x)
Ear-lie in the morning

(Top couple sashays down the center of the set for four bars, and sashays back to place for four bars)

Get out the way, you'll get run over (3x)
Ear-lie in the morning

(Top couple starts a progressive right and left. The other couples start moving when the top couple gets to them. When the top couple gets back to their original place, they stop there. The figure continues until everyone is back to place.)

Rights and lefts will make it better (3x)
Ear-lie in the morning

Won't we look pretty in the ballroom (3x)
Ear-lie in the morning

(Top couple does an elbow reel down to the bottom of the set, and then backs out to their new place at the bottom of the set.)

Swing your partner all the way to Boston (3x)
Ear-lie in the morning

Won't we look pretty in the ballroom (3x)
Ear-lie in the morning

Note: with groups of new dancers, I almost always leave out the progressive right-and-left figure.


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Subject: RE: Looking for 1800 Party Game Dances
From: Fortunato
Date: 11 May 00 - 03:06 PM

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