Type of song?

Subject: Type of song?
From: GUEST,MickyMac
Date: 16 May 00 - 09:34 AM

Just wondering what's the name of a style of singing... this type of singing is often hear in shanties and Celtic song. An example of this type of singing....

"Humm diddle do dinda. Humm diddle do dinda. Diddle diddel day!!"

Any help? Throw something at me.....

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: MMario
Date: 16 May 00 - 09:38 AM

while there may be some technical term for it, I suspect most people would just say it's "mouth music" - nonsense sylables to keep the beat and scansion , fill in a spot, etc.

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,MickyMac
Date: 16 May 00 - 09:41 AM

That's what I figure.... but I hear a radio program and they said the "technical term" for this type of singing, but I didn't catch it. Maybe it was just some yuppie making things up....

Anyone else??

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,Greg
Date: 16 May 00 - 10:55 AM

Is it called "humming"?

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 16 May 00 - 11:16 AM

Can someone do a blicky (BLue clICKY) to the thread I posted about this kind of thing, about all the Ry-too-ra-lie-ays and everything? MickeyMac, if not, do a forum search for "mouth music" and Mrr and you ought to find it.

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From:
Date: 16 May 00 - 11:19 AM

Diddling or Mouth Music for the most part. I think in other genres, they refer to it as Scat

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,MickyMac
Date: 16 May 00 - 11:23 AM

Much thanks.... I think this might set me on the road to the knowledge I seek.....

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: fulurum
Date: 17 May 00 - 09:56 AM

i have an old old clancy bros and t makem album and on it joan clancy (the mom) does what they call dowdling on the album. its diddly dums and the like. could this be it?

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 May 00 - 10:22 AM

I wonder if "doodling" (with a pen or pencil) comes from diddling?

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,Okiemockbird
Date: 17 May 00 - 10:26 AM

I use the word "vocables" to refer to syllables such as "hey and a ho and a hey nonino" or "fa la la la la" or "turalura" or "weigh hey ya". I don't know if there's a term for the technique of using vocables in a song, other than "using vocables".

T.

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: Celtic.Relics.com
Date: 17 May 00 - 12:21 PM

I have heard "dowdling" once on a CBC Radio program....?

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 18 May 00 - 06:26 AM

Yes, I've heard it called mouth music or diddling. Of course, as an old jazzer I do scat singing, others call it Roger-forgetting-the-words-again.

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: tgreenie
Date: 19 May 00 - 01:41 AM

singing in syllabys goes back to babyhood, but in the Irish tradition it was developed when the dang English made it unlawful for folks to play certain instruments, so the vocals had to cover the "breaks" between verses. Of course, Ella and Mel did it cuz it was cool.

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 00 - 05:36 AM

i need to find a maori song.. its something like pokere ana i think.. not sure about the ana thing.. sounds like pokere kere ana.. nah wai otta rua..

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 May 00 - 01:04 PM

GUEST:

Generally, you should start a new thread when asking about a new song; if you bury your request in the middle of a thread on a different subject, it may never be answered.  In this case, though, I can point you to an earlier discussion that has a link to the song you're looking for -I found it by using the new Digitrad and Forum Search facility on the main Forum page, typing in the word maori.  Maori Song 'Po Kare Kare Ana'

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 19 May 00 - 01:39 PM

I think I'll start using Dowdling. Sounds like a cross between diddling and derry derry down, so it seems to fit. I'll attribute the term to the Clancy Bros' Ma, thanks, fulurum!

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: fulurum
Date: 19 May 00 - 11:35 PM

yer welcome

Subject: RE: Type of song?
From: GUEST,Mickey Mac
Date: 23 May 00 - 07:20 PM

I've looked around the net.... still nothing? Any music teachers able to answer this question?