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Songs of Anxiety about technology

Art Thieme 26 May 00 - 12:37 PM
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Jacob B 26 May 00 - 02:22 PM
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Subject: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 May 00 - 12:37 PM

My brother has a friend who is looking for songs that llustrate anxiety brought on by technology.

Thanks in front for your input.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 26 May 00 - 12:52 PM

tada tada Microwave ovens, tada tada color teeveeeeeeeeees? Can't remember the rest? Or is Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug too low-tech?


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 May 00 - 12:56 PM

Take Paradise, Put Up A Parking Lot.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Rana who SHOULD be working
Date: 26 May 00 - 12:59 PM

Hi,

What about Stan Rogers "The Xerox Line" on the live album?

Rana


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Jacob B
Date: 26 May 00 - 02:22 PM

"Automation", by Allan Sherman.

It was automation, I'm told
That's why you were fired, and you're out in the cold
It was IBM, it was Univac
It was all those gizmos and clickety-clacks, dear


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Bill D
Date: 26 May 00 - 02:41 PM

Steven Levine's classic KING OF THE NERDS


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 26 May 00 - 03:41 PM

Mrrz, that's "Money For Nothing" by Dire Straits. Song is more about the music business, not really tech. "The Bug" is a funny song! Check out ELO's castanet & tympani driven A href=http://lib.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/print_hit_bold.pl/~clandt/Rockaria/songs/thewaylifesmeantobe.html>The Way Life's Meant To Be. Just use the calypso strum that they do, on acoutsic guitar, and you'll have folks believing it's folk. PS don't forget the la la's!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: GUEST,Mbo
Date: 26 May 00 - 03:42 PM

That's The Way Life's Meant To Be.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: GUEST
Date: 26 May 00 - 03:46 PM

never bloody mind


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Mark Clark
Date: 26 May 00 - 04:51 PM

Art, don't forget "The Washing Machine Song," the new one just sits there and goes hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I was at Bean Blossom the day that was written. John Hartford, Tut Taylor, Vasser Clements, et al., had been up all night expanding their minds and stuff and had that song ready for the first concert of the day. They launched into the song and when they reached that onomatopoeic description of the old one, a dog near the stage (and the speaker) let out a long and heartfelt howl. The audience just cracked up. I think I have the whole thing on tape somewhere.

      - Mark


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Subject: Lyr Add: Industrial Disease^^
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 26 May 00 - 05:38 PM

Dire Straits' song 'Industrial Disease' may have come closer to capturing technological anxiety than 'Money for Nothing.' They wrote money for nothing after watching a couple of roughnecks cut up the music videos in the television section of a department store. 'Industrial Disease' is a more serious song.

ARTIST: Dire Straits TITLE: Industrial Disease

Warning lights are flashing down at quality control
Somebody threw a spanner and they threw him in the hole
There's rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
Somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down
There's a meeting in the boardroom they're trying to trace the smell
There's leaking in the washroom there's a sneak in personnel
Somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
'Goodness me could this be industrial disease

The caretaker was crucified for sleeping at his post
There're refusing to be pacified it's him they blame the most
The watchdog's got rabies the foreman's got the fleas
And everyone's concerned about industrial disease
There's a panic on the switchboard tongues are tied in knots
Some come out in sympathy some come out in spots
Some blame the management some the employees
And everybody knows it's the industrial disease

The work force is disgusted downs tools and walks
Innocence is injured experience just talks
Everyone seeks damages and everyone agrees
That these are 'classic symptoms of a monetary squeeze'
On ITV and BBC they talk about the curse
Philosophy is useless theology is worse
History boils over there's an economics freeze
Sociologists invent words that mean industrial disease

Doctor Parkinson declared "I'm not surprised to see you here
You've got smokers cough from smoking brewer's droop from drinking beer
I don't know how you came to get the Bette Davis knees
But worst of all young man you've got industrial disease"
He wrote me a prescription he said, "You are depressed"
But I'm glad you came to see me to get this off your chest
Come back and see me later - Next patient please
Send in another victim of industrial disease"

I go down to Speakers Corner I'm thunderstruck
They got free speach, tourists, police in trucks
Two men say there're Jesus one of them must be wrong
There's a protest singer singing a protest song - he says
"They wanna have a war so they can keep us on out knees
They wanna have a war so they can keep their factories
They wanna have a war to stop us buying Japanese
They wanna have a war to stop industrial disease
They're pointing out the enemy to keep you deaf and blind
They wanna sap your energy incarcerate your mind
They give you Rule Brittania, gassy beer, page three
Two weeks in Espana and Sunday striptease"
Meanwhile the first Jesus say's "I'd cure it soon
Abolish monday mornings and friday afternoons"
The other one's out on hunger strike he's dying by degrees
How come even Jesus gets industrial disease


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 26 May 00 - 06:31 PM

Stevie Goodman did that one about buying all the stuff you see on dumb TV ads, and that was way before The Shopping Channel.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: DADGBE
Date: 26 May 00 - 06:51 PM

Hi Art,

Industrial Disease is a powerful lyric.

The title means "My Resting Place" and I can only remember a vague outline of the words:

Don't look for me where birds are singing,you won't find me there, my friend,
Look for me here in the clatter of machines. This is my resting place.

C'mon Joe, give us a hand!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: DADGBE
Date: 26 May 00 - 06:55 PM

Why does half my message dissappear when I post?! The paragraph that went AWOL read:

My mother sang a Yiddish song called "Mein Reueh Platz" in the 1950's of which I only remember fragments. I'll bet that Joe Offer could find it for us if we ask nice.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: GUEST,Les B
Date: 26 May 00 - 06:56 PM

Art - If you do find any good songs about the subject, perhaps you shouldn't reveal that you got them off the Internet!(Big grin!)


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Susan of DT
Date: 26 May 00 - 07:18 PM

Iron Horse (in DT)


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 26 May 00 - 07:20 PM

The Steve Goodman song is called Vegematic, Mag. I always though of it as 'Six Flags Over Burbank,' so I looked up those words in Altavista. The site below says that Shel Silverstein wrote the lyrics. The focus seems to be consumerism rather than technological anxiety - unless it's a fear of falling asleep in front of the TV. Falling asleep in front of the TV is not usually frightening unless you drop acid and wake up not knowing where you are. Then the TV can be such a pain. Best to not fall asleep when you drop acid.

http://www.banned-width.com/shel/works/veg.html


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 26 May 00 - 08:05 PM

Hey Art- If you want the opposite viewpoint, try Peg'N Awl.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Stewie
Date: 26 May 00 - 08:16 PM

'John Henry'.


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Subject: Lyr Add: The Death of Ellenton^^
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 May 00 - 11:57 PM

I thought of Uncle Dave Macon's song the chorus of which went something like:

I've been waggoning for over 20 years
And living on the farm,
I'd bet a hundred dollars and a half a ginger cake
I'll be here when the trucks are gone.

Also: Si Khan's song "Aragon Mill"
Craig Johnson's song "Way Down The Road"

and the New Lost City Ramblers did a great song that I used to sing too (originally a 78 by Pa Johnson and the Johnson Family) called "The Death Of Ellenton" about a town that was demolished in Tennessee to build a nuclear research/factory facility. This ole-timey country song rolls right along and THEN we're hit with the line about weapon production. It just sends shivers up my spine.

Where the broad Savannah flows along to meet the mighty sea,
There stood a peaceful village that meant all the world to me,
The home of happy people--I knew each and every one,
My kin folk and all the friends I loved---the town was Ellenton.
------But the military came one day and filled our hearts with woe,
------"We'll study war right here", they said, "The little town must go."
Then they came with trucks and dynamite---the din and dust rose high,
I stood and gazed in silence as I watched my home town die.

They brought bulldozers by the score where children used to play,
Pushed over all the trees we loved and scraped the flowers away,
Now the homes are gone--the schoolhouse too--the sweat and toil of years
And with them all the joys and hopes of past and future years. ------The little church was hauled away--the fields are brown and bare,
------And in their place a mighty plant--they build the H-bomb there.
Now the smoke hangs o'er the valley like the mist before my eyes,
Has been there ever since the day I saw my home town die.

Oh, the friends we know and love we'll meet upon some other shore,
For Ellenton--fair Ellenton is gone forever more.

Art Thieme

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Lanfranc
Date: 27 May 00 - 07:26 AM

How about Billy Ed Wheeler's "Coal Tattoo" or Tom Paxton's "Georgie on the Freeway". There was a parody of "16 Tons" under the title of "16 bits" which is a bit passe in these days of 32 and 64 bits, but I can't offhand think of any folksongs that mention 64 - or does the Beatles "When I'm 64" open up a potential avenue for an Intel song? I'm going to go away and think of songs that could be modified into a late 20th Century Luddite anthem. The trick will be to come up with something that enthuses about the best bits of modern technology (the Internet, mobile communications) while deriding the worst (the Internet, mobile communications, GM crops, "early retirement")


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Chocolate Pi
Date: 27 May 00 - 01:11 PM

DADGBE: MAYN RU'E PLATZ

a nearly-canonical list of computer filks: click here

Chocolate Pi


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Stewie
Date: 27 May 00 - 09:52 PM

Hi Art,

It's interesting that you mention Uncle Dave. There is also the line where he sang 'I'd rather ride a wagon and go to heaven/Than to ride in an automobile', but I can't recall which song it comes from. He never forgot that trucks once put him out of business. I love the photo that County has used on LP and CD covers of Uncle Dave with his mule and wagon. The sign reads: 'Uncle Dave Macon: Slowing Down But Still Moving - Old Time Religion. Old Reliable Way. My Gasoline Consists of Corn, Oats, Whip and Hay'. However, Uncle Dave was a little ambivalent about the automobile. He never learned to drive, but that was because he had seven sons and therefore 'there was no need to'. In 'On the Dixie Bee Line' (reissued Vetco 101), he glorifies Mr Ford's Model T which he ties into bootlegging. Humour was Uncle Dave's method of handling change.

Many of the songs mentioned above seem to be related to the dire consequences of, rather than 'anxieties about', the encroachment of technology - and such songs abound.

Another Billy Edd Wheeler song, 'The Coming of the Roads', could complement the 'Coal Tattoo' that has been mentioned.

There's an interesting broadside printed in Roy Palmer's 'A Touch of the Times'. It is titled 'The State of Great Britain or a Touch at the Times'. It includes these verses:

The railroads all through England have great depression made
Machines of every kind has put a stop to trade;
The innkeepers are weeping in agony and grief,
And the ostlers swear they'll buy a rope and go to felo-de-se [suicide]

The steamboats to old Beelzebub the watermen do wish;
They say theyve nearly ruined them and drowned all the fish
Of all their new inventions that we have lately seen
There was none begun or thought upon when Betty [Queen Elizabeth I]was the Queen

Cheers, Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Art Thieme
Date: 27 May 00 - 10:17 PM

Stewie,

I thought that line was:

I'd rather ride a wagon and go to heaven
Than to hell in an automobile.That's how I hear it...

Art


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Stewie
Date: 28 May 00 - 12:10 AM

Yes, that's right, Art. I was quoting from a faulty memory.

Cheers, Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: zonahobo
Date: 28 May 00 - 03:11 AM

How about John Prine's

Blow up your TV, throw away the paper
go out to the country
get yourself a farm
raise a lot of children
feed em on peaches
learn about Jesus
on your own

(as I remember the lyrics) Not just anxiety, but what to do about it!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 28 May 00 - 08:03 PM

The ones that spring immediately to mind are the poem by Banjo Patterson 'Mulga Bill From Eaglehawk' about a blow hard horseman who tackles a penny-farthing bicycle for the first time - with disastrous results.

I also recall that Percy French was paranoid about horseless carriages and wrote a couple of songs on this subject sixty years before Ralph Nader.

Regards, John


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: ddw
Date: 28 May 00 - 09:53 PM

Joel Mabus's song Talking 20th Century Blues has a few good digs at technology, but my current anti-tech song is James Cotton's Take A Message.

cheers,

david


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 28 May 00 - 11:25 PM

Ray, here are the Yiddish words to Mayn Rue Plats. Thanks, CP, didn't know it was in the DT. I don't have my book with me so the transliteration may not be kosher. I think it's by Morris Rosenfeld, but I might be wrong.

MAYN RUE PLATS

Nit zuch mich vu di mirten grinen
Gefinst mich dortn nit mayn shats
Vu lebens velkn bay mashinen
Dortn iz mayn rue plats (2x)

Nit zuch mich vu fontanen shpritsn
Gefinst mich dortn nit mayn shats
Vu trern rinen, keyner kritsn
Dortn iz mayn rue plats (2x)

Nit zuch mich vu di feygl zingen
Gefinst mich dortn nit mayn shats
A shklaf bin ich, vu keytn klingen
Dortn iz mayn rue plats

Un libstu mich mit varer libe
To kum tsu mir, mayn guter shats
Un hayter oyf mayn harts dos tribe
Un mach mir zis mayn rue plats (2x)

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 28 May 00 - 11:29 PM

Oh, and the "Xerox line" song is by Nigel Russell, and it's called WHITE COLLAR HOLLER.

Leon Rosselson has written some wonderful anti-technology songs. In fact, most of his songs are anti-technology. The ones that aren't anti-government, anyway. "Whoever Invented the Fish Finger" is one of my favorites.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 31 May 00 - 11:36 PM

I WISH somebody would write an Ellentown type song about Richland here in WA. State, where Hanford is (Hanford, as in where they made the plutonium rods during the war). At the time, people were upset, but now everyone there is connected in some way, even the environmental think tanks. (It's the one plant that even the pro-nukers admit is screwed up.) The current plan is to fuse several cubic acres of soil (yes, acres) to lock in all the contaminants the government has been saying for 55+ years weren't there. I'm upstream but downwind from it, and Washington State has the highest cancer rates in America.

Off my soapbox.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Pene Azul
Date: 31 May 00 - 11:51 PM

Howz about this one:

I'M THE SLIME
(Frank Zappa)

I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help, no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right folks, don't touch that dial

Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
You can't stop the slime people, look at me go

I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
You can't stop the slime people, look at me go


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 00 - 11:52 PM

Now, shall we walk
Or shall we ride?
"Ride," said Pleasure.
"Walk," Joy replied.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Big Red
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 12:04 AM

The Wayfarers did an album from the World's Fair in NY (1964-65) that contains a song called "The Ballad of the Battle of the Great All Digit Dial". The song laments the loss of operators and exchange names. It ends with a reference to the "new" ZIP CODES. How times have changed.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: DADGBE
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 12:13 AM

Hi all,
Thanks for the help with Main Rueh Platz.
There's an alternatative group of songs to which Dick alluded; that of pride in technology.

Remember Georgie who was ..."proud to die for the engine I love"...? How about those cowboy songs which brag about being the best with a horse and riding and roping. There's the Aussie sheepshearer who sang, "If I don't shear a tally before I'm through, into the river my shears I'll throw." In Newcastle the colliers sing, "I can hew, boys, I can hack it out. I can hew the coal, I can dance and shout. I can hew, boys the coal that's black and fine. I'm a collier lad and I'm working down the mine."

How about a new thread, Art?


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Grab
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 07:14 AM

"Industrial Disease" is a classic. Environmental message - try Tom Paxton's "Whose garden was this". I'm rather fond of a mid-90s hip-hop song called "TV, the drug of the nation", but I can't remember who did it.

And of course, there's pretty much anything by Pink Floyd - "Welcome to the machine" stands out, for one.

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Kim C
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 10:26 AM

Rats! I was hoping I'd be first on Industrial Disease! I reckon I've got to get up pretty early in the morning to beat y'all!

I also like John Prine's "Paradise," especially:

The coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And the tortured the timber and they stripped all the land
And they dug for the coal till the land was forsaken
And wrote it all down as the progess of man

Last year I was inspired to write a song after an old home was torn down in our neighborhood. They took it down bit by bit, and underneath the white clapboard was -- guess what -- a square-log cabin. A log cabin! Here was a home that had sat on the main road between Nashville and Murfreesboro for who knows how many years, and they turned it into - guess what - a parking lot for the airport shuttle service. It really broke my heart - but I guess that's where a lot of songs come from.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 10:54 AM

How about "Pollution" by Tom Lehrer? A real classic on the unintended consequences of industrialization.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: jayohjo
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 11:21 AM

Not exactly folk, but 'CCTV' by The Levellers?

jayohjo XX


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Subject: Lyr Add: Stop Researchin'^^
From: GUEST,ohwilliedear@yahoo.com
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 01:43 PM

This calls to mind some of the first anti-nukes songs. And they wern't written by hippies with scruffy beards and twelve strings, either.

Stop Researchin' -- Red Foley

Early Sunday Morning the preacher gave his warnin'
said you'd better get down and pray

Better listen to me mister, and you listen sister
it's gettin' closer every day

just a plain bomb is bad but the A-bomb is worse
doesn't make that H-Bomb well
Thousand times stronger than the A-bomb is
it's gonna blow us all to kingdom come

Chorus:
Gotta stop those scientists from researchin'
they done gone too far
They got these boys flyin' faster than sound
and the whole world in a war
Man that A-tomic energy sure scares me
and if it'll do what they say
better start thinkin' 'bout savin' your soul
or Sam Johnson ain't my name

Well I'm thankful for the drugs that killed the bugs
the skeeters, the mice and the fleas

but instead of trying to get up to Mars,
we'd better get down on our knees

and thank the good world for the world we have
and in closing, I've got this to say:
If God intended us to go to Mars,
Why'd he put it so far away?

Chorus


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Bert
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 02:34 PM

Then there's the 'Scottish' John Henry MANYURA, MANYAH!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: SeanM
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 02:58 PM

I read this thread, and in my twisted mind the song that kept rearing it's head is "DUNDERBECK", a whimsical little ditty about the inventor of the sausage machine...

Not quite anxiety, but I think there's a grain of the topic in it somewhere...

M


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Gary T
Date: 01 Jun 00 - 09:01 PM

Not anxiety so much as mock dismay, and it's old technology...
"Lord, Mr. Ford"--by Jerry Reed, I believe.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: lamarca
Date: 02 Jun 00 - 04:36 PM

Art, there are a whole bunch of wonderful English songs from the time of the Industrial Revolution, when people were being displaced by technology. Many are collected in Roy Palmer's "A Touch on the Times" (mentioned above) and Jon Raven's "Victoria's Inferno". Most of the ones I know are from the textile industry - some classics that have been recorded by many singers are:

Cropper Lads - solve the problem of machines taking your job away by smashing the machine

The Triumph of General Ludd - sung by Roy Harris on an old Topic LP, this is a pro-Luddite paean

The Handweaver and the Factory Maid - love among the steam looms

Four Loom Weaver - a handweaver's lament about hard times of industrialization

Just wanted folks to know that anxiety about technology is hardly a new phenomenon!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 02:45 AM

No-one mentioned Bob & Ron Copper's last verse 1940s/50s addition to their family's The Seasons Round: Now things they do alter as time do go along. I'm afraid I shall have occasion to alter my song. You'll see a boy on a tractor a-going like hell, And whatever farming is coming to there's no tongue can tell!

I agree with the poster who just murmured "John Henry" somewhere up there.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: oldhippie
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 06:31 PM

HOW FAR WE HAVE COME
Bill Frederick

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we've made of the little they found

There's cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come

The slave ships they came with the whip and the rack
And a million black people with scars on their back
Picked cotton, drew water, and slept in the cold
With a bible for comfort they were happy and cold

The laws they were passed, slavery went
Our lives integrated at least six percent
In the sharecroppers shack and the big city slum
Who can deny how far we have come

The immigrants came from the green Irish shore
From Poland and Russia, ten million and more
Germany, Italy, all the world round
To settle our ghettos and immigrant towns

Their brains and their bodies they put to the wheel
To build our great factories and towers of steel
To march to our battles and carry our guns
Who can deny how far we have come

Now all through the Andes, they've heard of our name
On the factory wall, in the palace of shame
They drink Coca Cola and the times that they spend
Goes straight to the pockets of our businessmen

To pay for our Fords, and our split level homes
Our Hi-Fis and records and six percent loans
Our profits protected with dictators guns
Who can deny how far we have come

In Asia and Africa, they're learning too
How free enterprise can do wonders for you
South Africas prisons are bursting with men
Barbed wire keeps the Vietnamese in
Where elections are daydreams that never get far
American weapons are there standing guard
We're ready to fight for the lands that we run
Who can deny how far we have come

Our fears they are many though they're seldom saved
They're black and they're yellow and they're brown and they're red
They see through the legend, they smell the decay
They're learning to fight the American way

And we in our armchairs are quick to condemn
Our bankbooks are falling, our profits might end
The breaking of change is our funeral hum
Who can deny how far we have come

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we've made of the little they found

There's cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Joe_F
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 08:18 PM

My old man is dead and gone, now I am your old man;
And my advice to you, my son, is fight back while you can.
Watch out for the man with the silicon chip,
    hold on to your job with a good firm grip,
'Cause if you don't you'll have had your chips, the same as my old man.

-- Ewan MacColl


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Subject: RE: Songs of Anxiety about technology
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 08:21 PM

The Muckspreader


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