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The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's

GUEST,Mrr 30 May 00 - 10:43 AM
Mark Clark 30 May 00 - 11:04 AM
GUEST,Mrr 30 May 00 - 12:16 PM
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GUEST,jazz1 21 Jan 11 - 07:57 PM
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Subject: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 30 May 00 - 10:43 AM

This is to avoid creeping the Dubya and Leadbelly thread too far off base. Does anyone know anything about The Beehive, a jazz club in Chicago in the 40's, where Leadbelly and other famous or soon-to-be-famous jazzmen played? Am looking for anything I can find, thanks! If you're wondering why, check out the other thread, sorry no blicky.


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: Mark Clark
Date: 30 May 00 - 11:04 AM

According to this referenceJohnny Griffin played there with Thelonius Monk in 1954 or 1955. Not the 40's but at least some Behive history.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 30 May 00 - 12:16 PM

This is the artist of "So, who IS the loneliest monk?" fame, of course - interesting because I was under the impression that the Beehive closed in the late 40's... thanks! Anyone else?


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: Frankham
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:52 PM

Charlie Parker played there. Some of his outstanding work was done there.

Frank


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 May 00 - 11:28 PM

Cool, Frank! Know when? I'd just LOVE to have a realistic mental image of my daddy serving drinks to Charlie Parker!


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,jazz1
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 07:57 PM

My dad was telling me about The Beehive just the other day. He use to go there alot.

There slogan was "The Beehive, where modern jazz is kept alive"


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,RHCourtney
Date: 14 Sep 11 - 05:08 PM

The Beehive was active in Hyde Park in the 1950s as evidenced by the following two links:
http://www.hydeparkhistory.org/herald/JimmyEllis.pdf

http://guides.lib.uchicago.edu/content.php?pid=66937&sid=1002421

I have four photos taken at the Beehive in the 1950s of JJ Johnson and Kai Winding, Charlie Parker (Believed to be one of the last three photos taken of him, Thelonious Monk, and Joe Segal and an unidentified individual at this point.


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 10:38 AM

Bird story at the Beehive:

Bird Story


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 10:39 AM

Map to the Beehive and info:

Beehive Map


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 04:35 PM

When did Lead Belly become a jazzman? Here in Detroit, we have the oldest continuously operating jazz club in the world--Baker's Lounge with a piano in it that was brought from New york by Art Tatum when he was the house entertainer for a while. Billy Holiday practically lived in there. My uncle's band played there a lot in the mid-50s.


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,guest emily
Date: 24 Sep 11 - 03:09 PM

there is a recording of max roach and clifford brown along with other musicians including a young sonny rollins recorded live at the bee hive november 7, 1955


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: Stringsinger
Date: 25 Sep 11 - 12:02 PM

I don't know the dates but Bird astounded everyone with a tune I think he played at the Bee Hive (Or was in Minton's?) called "Bird Catches the Worm" based on the changes for "Lover Come Back To Me" by Sigmund Romberg. It was featured on a record by the D.J. Jazzbo Collins introducing Bird's music.

I think this recording may have taken place at the Bee Hive and for my money it is one of the most spectacular jazz solos ever taken.

If you slow Bird's music down, you will find that it is highly tuneful and that some day an enterprising lyricist will write for Bird's solos which are very singable.

He was reputed to have gained his name by chasing down a road kill chicken to eat and as a shortening of "Yardbird" from the army but I think the reason Bird's name stuck is that every note he played included the ill-fated "Lover Man" was singable and melodic. I even thought "Lover Man", when he was at his nadir in his recording career, was still better than many jazz choruses I have heard by notable jazz people.

I was deeply moved by his renunciation of his bad drug habits and his exhortation to Red Rodney not to go where he did. He was a kind of perfectionist and you can hear that on his early Dial records when he had a reed goof and whistled the producer (probably Ross Russell) to do another take.

Bird was like Louis in that he influenced a whole generation of music by arrangers, composers, jazz musicians and followers.

I have heard by people who knew him that he was quite intelligent, somewhat literate and wanted to be treated as "just folks".

However, he lived and breathed music and that was his religion.


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,THE FICKLE PICKLE
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 08:53 PM

MY FRIENDS AND I WERE REGULARS AT FLOSSIES BEEHIVE IN THE EARLY 50'S. I GOT HOOKED ON J AND KAI AFTER HEARING THEM ONCE. I WOULD NOT TRADE THOSE TIMES FOR ANYTHING. I AM A GRANDMA LIVING IN AZ NOW BUT THE BEEHIVE IS ALWAYS IN MY HEART.


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,Guest Historian
Date: 29 Jun 12 - 04:15 AM

Who was Flossie? Was she related to Joe Segal? How integrated was the audience at the Beehive or was it mainly African Americans who frequented the place?


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: GUEST,A former employee.
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 01:44 PM

I worked there each day after school as a teen.Around '53'. I cleaned the the bottle chute and put empty beer bottles in the're proper books.c leaned the lounge. Was there when Bird did his last gig.The musicians would leave there instruments,and I actually held his horn in my hands,and tried to play it.My employer was Saul Tannenbaum.Wade.


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: Mark Ross
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:07 PM

There are recordings of Lead Belly playing with Bunk Johnson.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: The Beehive - Jazz in Chicago 40's
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Jan 17 - 08:39 AM

Who said Bunk Johnson was a folk musician?

Which scoundrel authorised these musicians to play in different styles?


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