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Why are Americans so fat?

GUEST,John Evans 30 May 00 - 06:55 PM
catspaw49 30 May 00 - 06:59 PM
Rick Fielding 30 May 00 - 07:06 PM
GUEST,John Evans 30 May 00 - 07:07 PM
Peter K (Fionn) 30 May 00 - 07:08 PM
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Subject: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,John Evans
Date: 30 May 00 - 06:55 PM

I guess that most people here are aware that there is more than enough food produced to feed everyone in the world.

I recently heard the statistic that if everyone ate as much as the average American, we'd need 5 earths to feed them.

Cousins, please eat less

John


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 May 00 - 06:59 PM

yeah.....

Well we got more than a couple folks starving around this joint too. Shall I mail a burger somewhere?

What's your point John?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:06 PM

To hell with his point, I want my dinner!

Canadians are fat too!

Rick


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,John Evans
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:07 PM

My point is that us US citizens consume far more of the worlds resources than we have a right to.

I for one feel damn guilty

John


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:08 PM

Especially please eat less meat. And this goes for the whole of the well-fed world, not just USA. Grain goes seven times farther if it is eaten as grain rather than as beef. And cattle are the second-biggest contributor to the greenhouse-effect after aviation fuel. Yes, they blow out about 70 million tons of methane a year I believe, which must be quite a lot of farts.

Which reminds me... Q.Why did God make farts smell? A.For the benefit of the deaf. Yes, the old ones are the best...


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,MrBisok@aol
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:11 PM

Any topic, repeat any topic no matter how irrelevant, can be brought back to folk focus: antidote to fat folks: Little Jimmy Dickins's song "Take an old cold 'tater 'n wait." -- any requests for full lyrics?


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:18 PM

Whooee! The fur's gonna fly here!

Remember the collective guilt about George Harrison's stabbing? (actually only one person felt it)

Actually your point is probably quite well taken, but your header is what will get folks P.O'd. ...and with good reason. Bet it was meant to..right?

Rick


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Áine
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:20 PM

Hey Spaw -- You can mail that burger down here . . . and if any of ya think I don't have a right to possess and consume it in my own home -- well, ya can pry it from my cold dead fingers, dang ya!

And John, I don't mean to belittle your own personal guilt or anything (well, not too much), but don't push it on me, please. I have enough of my own to carry without adopting any of yours. If you are that concerned about world hunger, I suggest you find an organization to which you can volunteer your time to help with whatever world problems about which you feel guilty.

And before you trip out into the wide world there, why don't you take a good look around your own town and see if there are any hungry children that need your attention?

-- Áine


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:42 PM

Like I said Aine.....we got a few people starving right around here. Pickle onion, tomato, lettuce and cheese on that burger Aine?

John, I know there are starving folks and that WE are a gluttonous nation, but assuage your guilt and do what you feel best wherever..........But remember that this country produces more and is often in a position to trade for more yet. What drives the production here is that gluttony and the accompaning economy. If we consume less are the producers going to give away the excess or sell more for no profit? My guess is that they won't produce it.

I used to get the line from my parents that I could never figure out.....so I don't use it on my kids.........

"You eat that! There are starving people all over the world who would be happy to have it!!!" .......... Even the dumbest kid in the world eventually responds, "I'm sorry Mom.....Where shall I send my turnips? Do you have an envelope that won't leak?" My Mom's response to this was.... FWWAAPPP!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 30 May 00 - 08:14 PM

Ah Guilt the gift that keeps on giving!!! I learned that saying from a engineer turned waitress at my local dinner..There is something about all night diners and musicians that leads to tons of great stories... Why are old musician's so - - - , well because we are still loving thoughs late night breakfasts on the road.. You could take away all the beef in the world for me but Bacon & eggs<><>> I just put on an exstra 25 lb's last year dealing with a child in the Hospitol.. That hospitol gravy did me in. Sorry I'l try to leave some for the rest.. I think we could write a song perody of the old John Prine soun <><><> I got the tytle<><>< " There's a hole in dady's face were


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 30 May 00 - 08:18 PM

Ah Guilt the gift that keeps on giving!!! I learned that saying from a engineer turned waitress at my local dinner..There is something about all night diners and musicians that leads to tons of great stories... Why are old musician's so - - - , well because we are still loving thoughs late night breakfasts on the road.. You could take away all the beef in the world for me but Bacon & eggs<><>> I just put on an exstra 25 lb's last year dealing with a child in the Hospitol.. That hospitol gravy did me in. Sorry I'l try to leave some for the rest.. I think we could write a song perody of the old John Prine soung <><><> I got the tytle, anyone else want to write it ?????<><>< "There's a hole in dady's face where all the money goes." Good will to all, GUY<><><><><>< PS I bought an exercize bike and stair walker at the local church TAG SALE now I got to try using the them.. Wish me luck !!!


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 May 00 - 08:21 PM

Aw geeziz, you just made me lose it all over the screen Guy!!!! What a riot......."There's a hole in Daddy's face where all the goodies go........."

LMAOWROTF

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 May 00 - 08:34 PM

Fatheads

Drink, infidelity, obesity. World's a tough place isn't it?


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: kendall
Date: 30 May 00 - 08:55 PM

the cost of living has'nt affected its popularity


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: harpgirl
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:06 PM

...I'm sure the answer to this question is very complex. I would like to see a double blind placebo controlled study...a good regression analysis or some other well designed study to give us good answers to this question. Technologically saturated work makes us sedentary...longevity gives us a lengthier period of physical prosperity (old people are rarely fat)...dependence on meat as a protein has all kinds of negative implications for the whole world as well as Americans, as Fionn points out...better medicines and health care probably contribute in some way...what about the mental health system? A very interesting and thought-provoking question...and certainly a great folkie cause...songs anyone?????? harpgirl


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Kelly
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:07 PM

Actually.. yes, America produces a ton of grain and beef and other food products. But people aren't starving because we Americans eat too much. They are starving because of supply and demand and wacky government and trade laws. Did you know that we dump hundreds of thousands of pounds of grain into incinerators every year just to keep the prices high?

*my two cents*


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: harpgirl
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:15 PM

...doesn't the research support the idea that starvation is mostly related to trade issues such as incineration of grains to control prices? But does that mean that wars in oil rich countries are the natural result of the need to balance the population of the earth in ways we don't yet measure?...a question with a complex answer, John Evans. Even flapping butterfly wings affect the answer...harpgirl


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Frank McGrath
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:17 PM

Americans fat? Why?
Simple really. A couple of million starving Paddies (Irish people) legged it over there 150 years ago. They started eating and they haven't stopped since.
The usual story, blame the Micks and you won't be wrong often.

Frank


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:22 PM

Looking at American programmes on TV what seems to come across is that the poor Americans are fat, and the rich Americans are thin. Anytime you see a really fat American, you can guarantee he or she will be having a hard time getting by.

Of course this is probably a digression, since I imagine it costs more to keep the rich ones thin than it does to keep the poor ones fat.

And as I always do, when this kind of discussion crops up, I invite peple to visit thehungersite, and stick it on their email signatures and browsers. (And that is an American site.)


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: keltcgrasshoppper
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:28 PM

McGrath... that is the first place I go every day... As for the FAT bit.. Hey spaw...how about some chips and a few beers to go with that burger... KGH


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:42 PM

Sure thing 'Hops........hops, yeah that's appropriate........What's your brew......I like that Lingenflingenwhatever stuff (I can never get the name right, but I recognize the label!!) from Milwaukee...I mean this is an "American" thread and all.......I just can't get Bud down though. I think their freshness secret is that they add soap to the brew.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,A***** by any other name
Date: 30 May 00 - 09:54 PM

I don't know


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 30 May 00 - 10:06 PM

Lets say we kill off all the cows so we can support seven times as many humans on the earth. Guess that would be around 45 billion folks on the old planet earth. Think of how many trees we would have to cut down just to supply these folks with guitars. Another thing seven people would most likely produce as much methane as one cow.

Cap't Bob (also known as ballast bob)


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Frank McGrath
Date: 30 May 00 - 10:19 PM

The fat Americans are needed to balance out the growing Chinese population. Otherwise the Earth would wobble out of control and fall into the Sun.

That's why Bill Clinton has been pushing through the Chinese trade agreement. He needs the Chinese to get hooked on video games and surfing the web so they will stop having sex. Otherwise Americans will need to get even fatter. And, let's be honest here, how much fatter can Americans get?

Frank (also known as Frank)


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 30 May 00 - 10:33 PM

Fionn wrote 'Grain goes seven times farther if it is eaten as grain rather than as beef.'

Frances Moore Lappe has some information on this in her book, Diet for a Small Planet. The figures are from 1979. The average ratio of grain fed to cattle per pound of meat produced from cattle was 7 to 1. However, the figures was for all cattle including range cattle. Feedlot cattle consumed 16 pounds of grain and soy for every pound of meat produced. Feedlot beef takes about 25 times the amount energy and 3 to 15 times the amount of water that it takes to produce the same amount of vegetable protein. More and more Canadian and U.S. cattle are raised in feedlots.

A good portion of each 16 pounds of grain and soy that feedlot cattle eat which doesn't turn up as beef is excreted as manure. We recently had 6 people from a small Ontario town die (and many more severely ill) from e-coli in the drinking water that probably came from cattle manure. From rumblings and half admissions of government people, it sounds like another 40 or more Southern Ontario towns have had similar contamination in their drinking water in recent years but not to the point that so many people got sick.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: ceitagh
Date: 30 May 00 - 10:53 PM

McGrath has a point. Around where I live, poor people tend towards obesity. Many of my friends have also noted that they've gained weight their first year on their own. Poor nutrition is a big reason why people get, well, big. Between fast food when money is available, and huge amount of pasta when it isn't, people with limited budgets find that the cheapest, filling, food is hardly a balanced meal. Add to that the phenomena that fat feels filling, and most of us north americans are used to a nice, full feeling after eating, and you get a lot of bad nutritional habits.

As for world hunger...i doubt that my eating less beef (yum!) and more rice will really make a difference anywhere. If enough of us did it...meat prices inside the country would drop, huge amounts of money would go into a new beef advertising campaign, and rice imports would go up. none of which would make much of a difference anywhere to anyone but the top 5% of the population. oh, and the beef farmers would suffer.

Pax,
Ceit


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Baba
Date: 30 May 00 - 10:55 PM

The answer to this question is of course SERVING SIZE AND ATTITUDE TOWARD FOOD. My dear one's father, Richard, lives in Texas and recently returned home to Australia telling us tales of the HUUUUGE meal serving sizes at restaurants, and the tendency to take SUGAR, MEAT and OIL and deep fry them and mix them together in every imaginable manner as standard daily fare. Richard tells us that even the Asian eateries have enormous portions (which seems strange to me) because that is what people expect. It is too easy to drive through and scoff down a take away meal - apparently (and this is a bit of a generalisation) people don't walk down the street in Houston - their bottoms permanently attached to the soothing leather of the car seat.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Mbo
Date: 30 May 00 - 11:11 PM

Try this song Harpgirl!

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Bill D
Date: 30 May 00 - 11:21 PM

like harpgirl said, the problem is MUCH more complex than most people want to admit...evolution, social customs, balance of trade..etc..but the REAL issue is population growth and how to contain it in the 3rd world.....we just CAN'T have "45 billion folks on the old planet earth. "........and you wont like it as we approach 10-12 billion!....

"eat less" says John...tsk, what naiveté


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 30 May 00 - 11:24 PM

Don't neglect the biological factor that makes any attempt at weight control through diet worse than finding a dam when you're a would-be-spawning salmon. We are biologically supposed to be fat, or at least to try as hard as we can to be - so that in the face of "caveperson" food availability, we end up with enough reserves to make it through a drought or, even more draining, a pregnancy. Trust to the caverperson lifestyle to keep you fit (until you die of old age at 35; who says exercise is good for you?).
What's worse, our bodies are programmed to seek out and enjoy fats and sugars in contrast to food that's "better" for you. The yummy heartstoppers highly available today were scarce then, but were then and are now crucial to life-after all, cell membranes are made mostly of fat (not to mention myelin sheaths and other frills of the intelligentsia). And we're biologically omnivores, not herbivores; it's HARD to eat a really healthy balanced herbivorous diet without eating all the time like, well, herbovires; if we want to have meals, we're much healthier eating everything in sight (well, at the time of the programming, what was in sight was what you could catch).
This is because we are built, as is any species, to survive whatever pressures created it in the first place - cruelly independent, in today's world, from the artificial social pressures to be thin. Many of today's women are especially betrayed by puberty when the hormonal/metabolic balance shifts to store EVERYTHING because you never know when you might have a fetus to support on top of having that famine or whatnot to get through.
This is not to say that people don't overeat, after all, it is one of the wonderfullest greatest pleasures of all time. And if we still lived the way H. erectus did when environmental pressures (which, remember, must be CATASTROPHIC or it ain't worth the trouble to speciate) created Homo sap, we could eat as much as we want as the life of hunter-gatherers keeps you, if not fit, at least from obesity. It's no accident that overweight (à la Villendorf Venus) women are highly prized in contrast to skin&bones ooh la la in today's industrialized media. They are rare when you live that close to the source of the human food processing chain because of all the hard WORK involved in farming, in contrast to shopping.
Signed,

-Plump and grew up in the third world


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: ceitagh
Date: 30 May 00 - 11:46 PM

What's this "contain population growth in the third world"....who gets to make that sort of decision? How do we go about this?

Well, to start with we could try to set up more equitable food distribution systems, perhaps give some aid (debt relief would be nice) towards reviving economys where we can. Bluntly, even leaving birth control, sexual behaviours, etc. out of the equation, economically stable, successful and well fed societies have lower birth rates.

Or we could take Johnathon Swifts 'suggestion.' It would solve population and food production problems. (TIC)

Seriously, I'm kinda wary of 'population control' arguments, because sooner or later someone boils it down to "get rid of poverty by getting rid of the poor." And then they tell me that having kids while living under the poverty line is irresponsible. Then they remember my Mom and Dad (under the poverty line most of my childhood) had 7 of us....and apologise 'cause of course they didn't mean people 'like us'....they meant people like 'them' And I'm reminded of the scholar Darwin quoted in his "Descent of Man" who talked about how somehow the wrong people kept on reproducing themselves and used the Irish as an example of a group that was polluting the race.....shiver.....

Sorry Bill, don't think this is all aimed at you....your comment sparked a sore spot of mine, and a certain amount of free associating resulted. hope you kind 'catters don't mind.

Pax,
Ceitagh Ceit


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 May 00 - 11:46 PM

Dear Abby, Dear Abby, I'm really fat
People are starving
I feel bad about that
I want to help out and my diet's a dud
If you'll give me an address
I'll send them a spud.
Signed .... Gross Fatass

......with apologies to John Prine

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 31 May 00 - 12:03 AM

I somewhat agree with Harpgirl but she's too much of a butterfly for my tastes. I'll stick with cheeseburgers.

Massive increases in population in places like Africa were caused by drops in the death rate rather than by increases in the birth rate. It looks like we are all part of a global problem. David Suziki's book, It's a Matter of Survival has some disturbing information on trend lines and thing like the fact that there are more of us alive today than have lived in rest of the history of (wo)mankind.

Yet few of us are volunteering to leave the planet. I don't know about you but I was just kidding when I said that I would kill myself.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 May 00 - 12:08 AM

Just remember--you take guilt on yourself. Nobody, ever, can MAKE you feel guilt. You, yourself, choose to feel it. Also, governments can and do deliberately cause famine. Look at Ethiopia for one example. It is a means of politcal control. Not that I approve, but it is true.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 31 May 00 - 12:14 AM

Or could starving, desparate people be inclined to war and instability, Sorcha?


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 31 May 00 - 12:29 AM

John, what an appropriate observation to make on an international folk music forum! Any comments on the scarcity of Michelin-starred restaurants in the USA? Given the abundance of food and the (apparent) National Appetite in America, it is an enigma.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Gary T
Date: 31 May 00 - 02:07 AM

Granting the premise implicit in the question, the answer is "Because we can be."

Who determines how much right Americans, or anybody, has to use what amount of resources?

If there ever develops a system that can actually get food and various other resources to the deprived people of the world who actually need them (and don't hold your breath for that to happen), I'd be willing to bet that in a generation or two those folks would be dealing with overcrowding problems of a hitherto unthinkable magnitude. Be careful what you wish for.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Brendy
Date: 31 May 00 - 03:06 AM

I don't think it is purely an 'American problem' I have met Irish guys in America, whom I knew as 'proportional' people when they lived in Ireland, only to turn out, 18 months later as little tubs

I eat like a horse, and neither put on, nor lose weight.
But America is renowned for it's 'large portions'; I was always partial to the 'New York Strip'. But man dear, I couldn't keep that kind of feeding up indefinately.
Anybody see the film 'Seven'?

Aaaaarrrrrgh!!!!

B.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,Hilary NZ
Date: 31 May 00 - 03:35 AM

I have a problem. The threads i like best on this looney site are the ones that have NOTHING AT ALL!!!! to do with folk music. Wot if i get found out????? Someone post something about music QUICK!!!!

ps i have two answers from the other hemisphere 1. being thin is very expensive in the western world 2. Now number two concerns the condition of being anally retentive, so I've reconsidered posting it coz I've already been told off twice and I've only been round here a week.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Brendy
Date: 31 May 00 - 03:41 AM

Food and music are inextricably linked, Hilary
Check it out

B.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: GUEST,Hilary
Date: 31 May 00 - 03:58 AM

thanks Brendy but that's made me so thirsty I've gotta leave and have my DINNER...lasagne with a beautiful juicy beef bolognaise sauce, squooshy layers of pasta and a rich tasty cheeeeesy sauce... OOooops, sorry Guest John!

Another reason is I think they don't eat enough veggies - we in NZ eat lots of veggies and we beat you at yacht races (but that's all I think) But the problem with veggies is that they might have feelings too....


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Brendy
Date: 31 May 00 - 04:13 AM

Yeah I know. Hug a carrot today!!
Sorry, wrong thread
B.


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 May 00 - 06:54 AM

"We in NZ eat lots of veggies" - I'll warn my friends who are veggies to steer clear of your cannibal islands...

And spaw, if you're drinking the stuff they call Budweiser that's made in America (and in franchised "breweries" elsewhere), I'm not surprised if you're not too happy with it. Try to get hold of Czech Budweiser, which is a different thing entirely. (Czech lager is better than Guinness even, and I hate to say that.)

It's strange isn't it - public spirited citizens invented the stuff they sell in MacDonalds, clearly in the hope of putting people off eating, and it backfired, and they liked it. Round the world. And even with the mad cow disease you get people eating English beef. (Though at least they've stopped the cows doing the same...)


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 May 00 - 06:57 AM

That's odd - well.here's another go at giving you Budweiser Budvar


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 May 00 - 07:05 AM

That was odd.....It happens occasionally.....kinda' weird.

Anyway McGrath.....I quit trying to drink Bud a long time ago. I don't drink much beer anyway, but when I do, I'd like to at least enjoy it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Spider Tom
Date: 31 May 00 - 07:11 AM

What rudeness!
Surely we in the cyber-spaces talking of fatness as if it mattered.
The answer as to why Americans are so fat is the same answer as to why anyone is so fat.
Fat is neccessary to stop the skin from hanging about the ankles, if skin didn't stretch we would never be fat because we would ache as soon as we ate.
Imagine troops of saggy skinned joggers tripping on their own baggy bottoms as they ran, noy a pritty sight and if you were unlucky enough to stamp on your own ass-hole then the shit would really fly.
So I say, a little less of this fat talk.
The consequences of the alternative could be far worse.
I of course am a perfectly proportioned person, as you can see by my writing.
Spider Tom (Web-sailing)


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 May 00 - 07:20 AM

Listen Spidey....Since we're all here discussing our fat asses, might I suggest we all take a picture of our butts for a Mudcat fund raiser......a rollicking game of "Match the Mudcat Ass"-----Find the details in the "Good Thoughts for a Mudcat Friend" thread.

AND HILARY--I added a verse to John Prine's "Dear Abby" already to qualify as song content......sorta'.........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: Spider Tom
Date: 31 May 00 - 07:31 AM

Spaw I wouldn't want to operate the camera (Wide angle lens?)
I didn't say anyone had a fat ass, now did I?
Spider Tom (in soft focus)


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 May 00 - 07:40 AM

Now Spidey, I wasn't pickin' on ya'..........Just get a picture of your ass sent in right away.......and while you're at it, get one of alison's too.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Why are Americans so fat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 May 00 - 08:07 AM

Not to change the subject and get back to the original.............I just watched the news which had a film clip of the US Secretary of Agriculture being attacked by an animal rights activist with a tofu cream pie....She also called him a "Meat Pimp."

Spaw


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