Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums

Subject: Cape Town Hedgehog Pie #2 on the folk polls
From: GUEST,radio presenter /author Shiloh Noone
Date: 23 Oct 11 - 08:35 AM

To all those folk seaworthy maties in the cold North

The vote came from the listeners, pipped by Mandy Mortons & the Spriguns, a worthy contender. Largely because of Doonan's flute and and Jenkins ' fiddle, the Pie is largeley an unknown group to Capetonians who fell in love with their sound. (A few zealous indivuduals even arrived at the studio with the LP in their hands)
I put it down to all the ex pats and Brit colonials that settled in the Cape of Goodhope in the late 18 century. You will still hear Fairport and Steeleye Span in the pubs in the southern suburbs

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: oggie
Date: 20 Jun 10 - 06:21 PM

Saw the original Hedgehog Pie at the Turks Head in Lincoln and booked the DB version for a gig at Hull Uni just after they'd formed.

Tony Capstick was the best of that group seventies of folk/comedians by a long way. When he sang a "straight" song I would put him up against anyone. On the flip side I also remember getting seriously pissed with him on my eighteenth birthday (again at the Turks Head). Given what happened later I still a bit guilty about it.

If you can find it the Gaughan/Capstick/Burland LP of Ewan MacColl songs is well worth a listen.

Steve

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Jed Grimes
Date: 20 Jun 10 - 07:15 AM

Working with Tony was fine: as I recall, we'd hit the pub after a day in Impulse Studios
(where the engineer, Mick Sweeney, had to communicate via a security camera!), but despite Tony's later rep as something of a wild card, he was good to work with and we all laughed quite a lot.

He was possibly the most edgy and brilliant of that set of 'folk comedians', and a fine singer and player too.

Dave Burland's written a song for Tony, which we may well include in the new set.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 04:44 PM

The Doonan Family Band. Wonderful.

Saw them at Cleethorpes Folk festival about 4 years ago. So talented.
They did one song that impressed me so much. They did a Labi Siffri song and all the audience joined in and it was so moving and awesome.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 03:49 PM

Hedgehog Pie will be appearing at Warwick Folk Festival July 23-25 2010 http://www.warwickfolkfestival.co.uk - line up is Mick Doonan, Jed Grimes, Dave Burland, Phil Murray & Bryan Ledgard

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 11:24 AM

Have you got the Noteworthy files yet Mr Radish?

L in C

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 05:18 AM

What was it like working with Capstick?

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 03:38 AM

Related to Jack the Lad?

L in C

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Stu Luckley
Date: 21 Mar 10 - 04:51 PM

To Alan G
Yes That's authentic. I remember that's how Dik & I used to sign the album. Remember we were all quite young in those days!!!!
Mick Doonan, Stu Luckley & Phil Murray ( along with Kevin Doonan)still play together in the Doonan Family Band. Next gig Hawes Folk Festival. May 2nd. Any other q's about HP?

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Charlie
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 06:52 AM

There was only one hedgehog pie my friend! (well, different line ups of the same).Just been listening to a poor quality copy of ,'just act normal'(1978)- cracking stuff. Pity this line up was short lived and as far as I know only recorded this one album.It should be re-released for all to hear. Did anyone ever see them?

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 09:39 AM

How many hedgehog pies were there? I am sure there was a band in Stroud with that name - I will enquire on Jan 15 when there is a free ceilidh and the musician I think would know will be present.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Alan G
Date: 31 Dec 09 - 06:49 AM

Really good band from those days back when.

I saw them in the Merseyside area in the mid seventies. But where???

Amazingly picked up a copy of 'Green Lady' in the Lake District last August. Vinyl not in great condition but the cover looks to have been signed by all the band on the individual photos inside the gatefold as follows

Enjoy it???? Stu Luckley

Michael Doonan

Love Margi x

Scuse the underwear Jed Grimes

Lots of luv Martin Jenkins

Lots of Dik

Could it be authentic??????

Alan G

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: r.padgett
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 01:39 PM

Rosie Doonan has a weekly open mike at Wakefield at the New Inn, Walton, Wednesdays

Mick Doonan and Bob Thomas regulars too!

just off there!!
Ray

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Triangleslim
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 01:31 PM

Hedgehog Pie did record a studio version on their album Just Act Normal (Rubber Records 024) - Lowlands of Holland, Side 1, Track 2. A superb folk-rock version....

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,bill
Date: 18 Jun 09 - 06:03 AM

just spoted a mint copy of the lp in a charaty shop.for a qwid . Googeled it.& then bought it Of home to lissen to it Chears for info.bill

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,susieq
Date: 24 Mar 09 - 09:41 AM

Folkypaul - I also saw Hedgehog Pie at Middlesbrough Town Hall Crypt in 1975 and spoke to Michael Doonan at the bar during the interval, a great gig, on the strength of that I bought the first Hedgehog Pie album.

BanjoRay - I actually spoke again (over 30 years later) to Michael Doonan at a gig they were doing in Wakefield last Saturday night. He is still playing but he is now with a band called the Solicitors who are a soul based band, but he still plays folk with his band the Doonan Family and tour quite frequently. I took my album along to show him, he was gobsmacked when he saw it and how much he'd changed (sadly the dark long curly hair and beard have gone) but he was such a lovely man and we had a really good chat.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Dik the Drummer
Date: 10 Nov 08 - 09:35 AM

The only drummer the Pie ever had
One album, The Green Lady, one E.P The Lambton Worm
And one single, Well I know why I love you
Brilliant band topped The Folk Proms at the Albert Hall
And Toured with John Martyn on the University circuit
Best gig, Possibly The July Wakes festival at Chorley Lancs


Dik the Drummer

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Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Graham Bradshaw
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 01:48 PM

I'm pretty sure I have a recording of "Lowlands of Holland" by Hedgehog Pie, recorded live when they played in Coventry (several times). That was the line-up feat Dave Burland, Mick Doonan and Jed Grimes. Late 70s I think. Don't ask for a copy though, as I have no idea where it is lurking at the moment.

We also did a concert with Hedgehog Pie AND Five Hand Reel on the same bill! That was a great night.

G

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: folkypaul
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 02:36 PM

I remember seeing Hedgehog Pie in Middlesbrough Town Hall Crypt a lot of years ago now.
Age makes me forget how many.
I was at the bar having a drink with the old man(John Doonan)and I asked him what he thought of young Mick's playing.
He thought a bit and said "He could be better than me.   But don't tell him I said that".
I never did.

Paul

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 12:58 PM

Stu Luckley and Bob Fox were in fine form at the Clarence (Blackpool) last night. Stu really makes the acoustic bass sing.

Ross

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Stu Luckley
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 11:48 AM

Hi
If anybody needs any info about Hedgehog Pie, Doonan Family Band, Bob Fox & Stu Luckley feel free to email me at [e-mail]
It's nice to know people are still interested!!!
Stu Luckley

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,reg
Date: 25 May 08 - 07:24 PM

Hi

I saw Hedgehog Pie a few times in the 70's. Excellent, especially at the Chorley Folk Festival (75 I think) with Steeley Span, Mike Harding, Gallagher & Lyle, Barbera Dickson, ... saw many of them just jamming in the bar ... terrific. My Green Lady vinyl wore out a long time ago so very keen to get the live CD. Interested to hear if any of the old band are doing any Yorkshire Folk Clubs in 2008?
Reg (York)

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Nicole
Date: 22 Feb 08 - 03:26 PM

Hi ,

I found the song!!!!!!!!! It is from Swan Arcade from the album Matchless (1976). You can listen to it on www.myspace.com-swanarcade.
Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

Happy greetings from Belgium

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Nigel Spencer (sans ookie)
Date: 22 Feb 08 - 09:06 AM

Someone copied me two albums - one self titled and one called The Green Lady and an e.p. called the Lambton Worm from the vinyl (seeing as they've never got onto CD). There's some really good stuff on there, but I know virtually nothing about them and a Google search doesn't seem to bring much up. Sounds from the posts above like they were more of a big gang of musicians than a band!

Nigel

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Betsy
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:04 PM

I did their folk club in Hebburn a long ,long time ago, when there were (it seems)well over a dozen of them. Every one of them was a better singer and musician than I was !!!so enough said about THAT night.
Fabulous people - all of them including ( bless him Mick's Dad - John Doonan).
If you ever want to recreate the powerful ambiance get along to see the Doonan Family whenever and wherever you can. Good that someone also mentioned Phil Murray who also plays with the Doonans - an unequaled acoustic bass player with the Doonans along with Stu Luckley, Mick's brothers - and if you're lucky - you'll get their Irish dancers to complete a more-than memorable occasion.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: gnomad
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:11 PM

Nicole, Full Circle appears to be available here BUT the tracklist says Lowlands Away, which I know as a different song from Lowlands of Holland. I don't have the disc to verify my suspicion that this is not what you are looking for.

Swan Arcade did record Lowlands of Holland on their LP Matchless, and that track fits your description, but I don't know if it ever reached CD.

Dave Burland recorded LoH on his CD Benchmark, but that is quite a spare, reflective, solo treatment. Nice, but not the one you are after.

I hope this may help, I was surprised to find I have no less than 8 recordings of this song, like Nicole I really like the Swan Arcade version, the Waterson:Carthy one is also rather good.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Nicole
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:55 PM

Hi,
Yes, a 4 year old message, but it seems that the conversation starts again! Thanks for the reactions. I'll try to contact Dave Burland and Georgina Boyes.
Greetings from Belgium

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 06:40 AM

Woops!
Just realised that I was replying to a message 4 Years Old!!
Ralh

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 05:54 AM

Hello Mr Rabbit.
Re The H.Pie Live release.
The Tracks listed from "Gander in the Pratie Hole" to "Dancing The Baby" (Inclusive) are from a BBC In Concert recorded in the Concert Hall at Broadcasting House.
In exactly the same order!!
Must have been an "Off-Air" recording, and I'm pretty sure the original tapes no longer exist.
The In Concert series was produced out of Birmingham, and that department (Folk On Two) were disbanded many years ago, when Smooth Ops took over the programme. Indeed the building "Pebble Mill" is also no more!
Hope this helps...
And, Yes, they were a fine band, in whatever incarnation.
Ralphie

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Sugwash
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 05:31 AM

There is a "Hedgehog Pie Live" album (cd) available from Blue Guitar

clicky

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: The Doctor
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 05:20 AM

No fiddle on Swan Arcade, but a nice version. I bought Hedgehog Pie Live from Dave Burland a couple of years back, so he may well still have copies.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Bobcat
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 06:11 PM

Nicole, Sounds like Swan Arcade on their FULL CIRCLE cd 1990 Contact Georgina Boyes to see if it is still available or see if you can find a copy through google

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,Nicole
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 04:17 PM

Hi,
I once heard the song "The Lowlands of Holland" and thought it was by Swan Arcade. I can't find it so now I think it was by Hedgehog Pie (with Dave Burland). It was sung by a man and a woman and had a wonderfull folk-violin in it. Can someone help me?
Greetz, Nicole

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 04 Sep 04 - 02:04 AM

Forgot to mention Jed also has released his own CD called Head on which was nominated in the Folk Awards I believe

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:58 PM

Check outDoonan Family Band web site for news of bass player Phil Murray too.

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 02:20 PM

The Rubber Records back catalogue, of course, is in the hands -like so much else- of Dave Bulmer (Celtic Music of Harrogate).

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 01:38 PM

Yep Jed is at the Red Deer in Sheffield Saturday night still a few tickets left if anyone wants to come

I was talking to Jed for a while at Stainsby - someone holds and wont release the copyright for Hegehog Pie albums mentioned above so they cannot re- release them onto CD. However, the bands old sound engineer had some tapes from live gigs and they now have released the CD

hedgehog pie live

Tracks are:

cool Reelies
The burning of Auchendoon ( unreleased)
Go with the flow
The green lady
Planxty Johnson/The big Kerry Reel
The female drummer ( unreleased)
Drops of Brandy
Blarney Pilgrim/The gander of pratle hole
The angels took my recehorse away
Ramble away
The march of the king of Laois
The Lowlands of Holland
Dancing the baby

to find out what each of the are doing check out

Dave Burland : www.daveburland.co.uk
Mick Doonan and Stewart Luckley: www.doonanfamilyband.co.uk
Martin Jenkins: www.incidentic24.net/www.barrelhouse.biz
Jed Grimes: www.jedgrimes.co.uk/ www.the-hush.co.uk

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Folkiedave
Date: 03 Sep 04 - 04:31 AM

And Jed is in Sheffield Saturday night!

Best regards,

Dave

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,james
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 07:29 PM

Saw Jed Grimes tonight at Orpington Folk Club - EXCELLENT!!!

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 30 May 00 - 08:54 PM

Also:

His Round with Tony Capstick: Rubber Records RUB 004, 1972.
Just Act Normal with Dave Burland: Black Crow Records, 1988(?)

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: GUEST,BanjoRay
Date: 30 May 00 - 08:35 PM

I have an album from 1974 called "Hedgehog Pie". Its on Rubber Records rub009. The lineup was Margi Luckley, Stu Luckley, Jed Grimes, Michael Doonan and Martin Jenkins. The tracks were:
The Reverend Johnson and The Big Kerry
Mariners
Rosemary Lane
The March of the King of Laois
New York Trader
O'Rourke's Flogging Chair
Fishing Song
Jack Orion
Spalpeen's Lament
They were a terrific band who could fill our folk club with no trouble at all. Their lineup changed every time we saw them, and was sometimes very big. The guy in our Doncaster club who first found them did a gig in Newcastle and said "I got up and did a set then the audience got up and did a set!".
They had a superb singer called Mick "Domino" and a cracking acoustic base guitar player called Phil. If anyone knows what's happened to these guys nowadays, I'd like to know - in fact one of them's still got my sleeping bag!
Cheers
Ray

Subject: Help: Names of Hedgehog Pie albums
From: Catlin
Date: 30 May 00 - 07:23 PM

Just hoping you nice folks out there can help me. I'm trying to find out if there are any more Hedgehog Pie albums than "The Green Lady". Also does anyone know of a web-site connected with them? Thanks in advance Catlin