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Lyr Req: Road to Clady

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LIGHT ON CAPE MAY
SARAH
THE BIGLER'S CREW
THE LUMBER CAMP SONG


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Deneb 10 Feb 13 - 06:39 AM
GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) 28 Sep 12 - 05:49 AM
GUEST,GUEST 27 Sep 12 - 05:18 PM
GUEST 07 Apr 12 - 05:32 PM
Joe Offer 09 Jul 09 - 10:37 PM
Artful Codger 09 Jul 09 - 10:23 PM
knight_high 09 Jul 09 - 08:42 PM
Joe Offer 08 Jul 09 - 01:57 AM
GUEST,tim readman 08 Jul 09 - 12:10 AM
GUEST,tim readman 08 Jul 09 - 12:01 AM
MartinRyan 29 Apr 08 - 03:53 AM
GUEST,Guest 29 Apr 08 - 03:23 AM
MartinRyan 29 Apr 08 - 02:57 AM
GUEST,Guest 29 Apr 08 - 02:50 AM
Susanne (skw) 10 Jun 00 - 07:31 PM
GUEST,Robert Field 10 Jun 00 - 04:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: Deneb
Date: 10 Feb 13 - 06:39 AM

Hi everyone,

once again, this website provided me with useful insights!

I've just bought a copy of Peter Bellamy's "Fair England's Shore" (so great!), I was listening to cd 1 and... his "Dogger Bank" sounded just like a song I knew! So I searched my memory... And yes, it reminded me of a song I learnt years ago from an Irish lady, "Road to Clady". Wow.
What I found on Mudcat seems to confirm my first impressions, but this thread on "Road to Clady" is a bit less comprehensive than the one on "Bachgen Bach o Dincar" (or "The Bigler's Crew", or whatever else is the title one prefers), for which reason I would like to gather some additional info, if possible: do you think the two tunes are actually the same one? Which one came first, and which one took the same tune and adapted it to different lyrics?

Many thanks and greetings from Oxfordshire!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 28 Sep 12 - 05:49 AM

If it's any help I've a version performed by myself and Fiona McConnell on Youtube at last year's Liverpool Irish Festival. The sound's a bit iffy - the guitar's a bit too loud in my view - but you should get the idea. Lyrics are pretty much as per Robert's post above.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4jhr-G_2ps


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: GUEST,GUEST
Date: 27 Sep 12 - 05:18 PM

Does anyone have the road to clady guitar chord by any chance?

Eimear


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 12 - 05:32 PM

can someone up the chords PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE <3
ty in advance
Lobo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 10:37 PM

Thank you, Knight High. I added your line to the lyrics above. Makes a lot more sense.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: Artful Codger
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 10:23 PM

Well, wooing among roses can be a thorny undertaking.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: knight_high
Date: 09 Jul 09 - 08:42 PM

It is
"And how they woo awhile among the roses and the flowers"

as one would!!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 01:57 AM

Nice recording, Tim. Now, what would you say is the name of the tune? I'd say it's "Bachgen Bach o Dincar" (which I know as the Great Lakes song, "The Bigler's Crew") so I've grouped it with the songs that have that tune. Agreed?

And what's this line mean?
    And how the whoe whilst by amongst the roses and the flowers
-or does the post above have the words wrong?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: GUEST,tim readman
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 12:10 AM

Sorry I gave you all the wrong link-this is it:
https://www.yousendit.com/download/cmczTmZUSEJPSHhMWEE9PQ


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: GUEST,tim readman
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 12:01 AM

I have posted my version of the song here for your delectation...
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/710518988/fd4a27c8d287979cd005b43a8b961559

Tim
www.timreadman.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Apr 08 - 03:53 AM

I'm no expert on copyright but I reckon the short answer is "No."

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 29 Apr 08 - 03:23 AM

Hmmm... Many thanks for that piece of information. I've just recorded the song for an upcoming CD, and I'm researching licensing rights. I wonder if either Sarah Makem or Peta Webb might be owed royalties for same?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Apr 08 - 02:57 AM

Sleeve notes to Lá Lugh say:

"The renowned traditional singer Sarah Makem from Keady, County Armagh, is the source of this lilting lovesong. Eithne first heard a version of it sung by the English singer Peta Webb."

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 29 Apr 08 - 02:50 AM

Does anyone know whether or not this song (the La Lugh version) is considered "trad"? Or is the variant they recorded Eithne's own invention?


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE SOOR MULK CAIRT (Thomas Johnstone)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 10 Jun 00 - 07:31 PM

The Road to Clady is a version of the Scottish song The Soor Mulk Cairt. I've tried quite a few variations of words and spellings, but the original doesn't seem to be in the DT. This is how the McCalmans sing it, pretty close to the original:

THE SOOR MULK CAIRT
(Thomas Johnstone)

Chorus:
Wi' her cheeks sae red and rosie, and e'en sae bonnie blue
Dancin' and glancin' she pierced me through and through
She fairly won ma fancy, and stole awa' ma hert
Drivin' into Glesga on a soor milk cairt

Oh I am a country chappie and I'm serving at Polnoon
On a fairm near to Eaglesham, that fine auld-fashioned toon
Whaur, wi' the milk each mornin', a little after three
We tak the road richt merrily, my auld black horse and me

I raised her up beside me and we soon got on the crack
I slipped my airm aroond her waist as by my side she sat
I telt the auld, auld story as the woods around me rang
Wi' the singing o' the mavis and the blackbird's cheery sang

I've heard o' lads and lasses making love in shady bowers
And hoo they woo'd and won amang the roses and the flowers
But I' ne'er forget the morning wee Cupid threw his dart
And made me pop the question in the soor milk cairt

Since the lassie has consented next term time cams roon
I mean tae buy a harness plaid and a bonnie silken goon
We're settlin' tae get marret just aboot next August fair
When aw oor auld acquaintances I hope to see them there

The lass had never had a hurl in a carriage aw her days
Sae when that I proposed tae hae a coach and pair o' greys
Na, na, quo' she, The siller's scarce, ye ken we canna spare't
And I'd rather hae the jooglin' o' the soor milk cairt

Here's some background to the song:

[1959:] I have much pleasure in informing you that my father Thomas Johnstone, is the author of The Soor Mulk Cairt. He wrote it in the 1880s for J.C. Macdonald, the popular comedian. My father was born in 1850 [...]. The Soor Mulk Cairt was sung all around the countryside, especially by farmhands, and so often that it's not surprising that some of them claim authorship. I've had to check this publicly with the Glasgow 'Evening Times' and the B.B.C. The slow walking pace milk cart was the type used by my father to travel to Eaglesham on Sunday mornings. [...] I enclose an old newspaper cutting to prove my claim. (Letter by Mary M. Johnstone, Weekly Scotsman, August 6)

[1974:] The words of this song were written by Tom Johnstone (1850-1911), otherwise known as 'The Calton Barber Poet' or 'Figaro'. Johnstone established a barber's shop in Abercrombie Street, Calton, Glasgow, during the early 1870s, and about the same period he also became well-known as a songwriter. His shop became a mecca for music-hall artistes, who could rely on Tom to speedily manufacture a song on any subject which took their fancy. Tom had a house in Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, where he spent his week-ends. On Monday mornings he was in the habit of obtaining a lift into Glasgow on the milk-cart which left Eaglesham at 3 o'clock. The song was based on a real romance between Dan Steel, the cart driver, and Maggie Watt. The words were originally published in a Glasgow weekly periodical 'The Professional and Authors' Journal' which printed many music-hall songs. The tune is an adaptation of the Irish The Garden where the praties grow. (Notes The Clutha, 'Scots Ballads')

[1990:] The sour milk cart was drawn at a reasonable pace by one horse, of a steady disposition and 'a certain age'. Giving the driver the chance of clicking with a lass. The sweet milk cart came at a spanking speed, pulled by two fiery young horses. The sweet milk needed to be in town early, to get into the morning teacups of the well off. The sour milk was used for baking. (Ewan McVicar, One Singer One Song 96 - Tune Jamie Raeburn)


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE ROAD TO CLADY
From: GUEST,Robert Field
Date: 10 Jun 00 - 04:59 PM

Here is the text La Lugh sing, with some slight differences.

THE ROAD TO CLADY

I am a country servant serving in Collon
In a place they call New Hamilton, a grand old-fashioned town;
'Twas early in the morning at the hour of three
When I set off for Clady, the old grey mare and me.

In the corner of the street, a bus I chanced to pass
And in the corner of the bus I spied a country lass.
Says I, "My pretty fair maid, come along with me.
I'm going the road to Clady, the old grey mare and me."

CHORUS: Cheeks as red as roses, eyes a bonny blue,
Dancing, dancing pierce me through and through;
She fairly won my fancy, stole away my heart,
Jogging along to Clady on the sour milk cart.

I asked her up beside me and on the cart she sat.
I slipped an arm around her waist and soon began to chat.
The birds in the bushes sweetly they did sing.
The blackbirds and the thrushes how they made a forest ring. CHORUS

Well you've heard of lords and ladies making love in shady bowers,
And how the whoe whilst by amongst the roses and the flowers.
And how they woo awhile among the roses and the flowers
I'll never forget that morning. Cupid shot his dart
Jogging along to Clady on the sour milk cart. CHORUS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Road to Clady
From: Brakn
Date: 09 Jun 00 - 08:15 PM

Contact La Lugh through their site.

La Lugh


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Subject: Road to Clady
From: GUEST,spinnlied@yahoo.de
Date: 09 Jun 00 - 03:57 PM

Hi there,

has anyone got the lyrics to the song "Road to Clady"? Eithne Ni Uallachain recorded it on the La Lugh album; unfortunately the words are not in the booklet.

all the best,

Danika


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