poetry source equivalent to Mudcat

Subject: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Edmund Flynn (inactive)
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 10:11 AM

Do any of you Mudcatters happen to know a source for poetry that is equivalent to athe Mudcat Cafe for song?

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 10:17 AM

I will gladly be corrected if I am wrong; but I have not found any single resouce for any other subject I have looked at that come even close to the combined resources of the Digital Tradition and the MudCat forum. There are some hugely informative sites out there, but either they lack the helping hands available through the forum or they refer to hard copy resources that aren't available on the internet.

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 10:37 AM

I've been wondering if we shouldn't be adding poetry into here anyway, some of it is just begging to be set to music, why not jump the gun? It wouldn't be a LYRICS ADD then, as I believe to be lyrical you have to have a tune, but how about a WORDS ADD/TUNE REQ? We can put the poem in at the same time as challenge the community to write a tune to match... or select an existing tune that scans, the way Amazing Grace and the Gilligan's Island theme do...

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 11:07 AM

Talk to Max. I like the idea myself....but either people are gonna hafta get into miditxt or hearme or something, because otherwise it might be pretty difficult to tell hwa tthe musioc sounds like....

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Wesley S
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 12:31 PM

I like the idea also but I can just see the threads now - " What is it with those sonnets"?? and " Is it poetry" ??

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 12:35 PM

Or "Help! Looking for Mahabharata words!"

--Mbo

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 01:03 PM

Here are two that are pretty good:

Poet's Corner
Complete Works of Shakespeare

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 01:23 PM

Edmund, are you looking for something in particular? Go ahead and ask, somebody will probably know it. It's no more BS than some of the other stuff that goes on around here! :)

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 01:23 PM

Barbara, Thanks for the poets corner.

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: GUEST,bobbybuzz
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 01:09 AM

Edmund..here's one...haven't used it, but it looks like what you may be looking for.

http://poetry.about.com/arts/poetry/mpboards.htm

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 01:20 AM

On our links page, you'll find a number of poetry pages listed. My favorite is a site called Representative Poetry Online.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Alice
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 01:30 AM

There are email lists on poetry. Go to www.egroups.com and do a search. Also, click here Academy of American Poets It includes discussion forums. Here are the different forum topics:General Discussion - Homework Help - Favorite Poems, Books, and Websites - Trying to Find a Poem, Poet, or Book - Share Your Poems - Suggestion Box - Practice Forum

alice

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jun 00 - 08:50 AM

That Poets Corner especially could be very handy - a poetry supplement to the DT, for when a link to a poem seems relevant in a discussion thread.

But I've yet to see any site that comes within reach of the Mudcat forum, even when it's at its occasional worst. (I admit I haven't really bothered looking for one since I found the Mudcat -I spend quite enough time here, and collectively we know an awful lot about just about everything, and are happy to share what we know and what we have found.)

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Edmund Flynn (inactive)
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 06:30 PM

Well, I've been stumbling around through your many excllent suggestions without success. (I'm not very good at this searching thing)
I am trying to help in-laws find an old poem with a moral. The first lines (I think) are

"I love you , Mother," said little Nell.
" I love you, Mother. I love you well."

I think the idea is that one daughter did things for her mother while the others just professed their love and then went on their selfish ways.

A poem with a moral. You m'catters were great in helping me find some old tear jerker songs for them, and now they think I'm some sort of a magician. I love it!! If you know this stupid poem you will save my reputation!!!

Edmund

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 07:14 PM

I found just a little bit more of it, and it seems it is by Joy Allison.
I love you mother said little Nell
and she went off to the garden swing
leaving her mother the clothes to bring

and the last line,

and who loved mother the best

Will keep looking.

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 07:18 PM

A ha! found it, but it is attributed to A Nonny Mouse:

I love you, Mother, said little John,
Then forgetting his work, his cap went on
And off to the garden he went to the swing,
Forgetting the coal and wood to bring.
I love you, Mother, said little Nell,
I love you better than tongue can tell;
Then she teased and pouted full half the day
So her mother rejoiced when she went to play.
I love you, Mother, said little Fan,
Today I will help you all I can;
How glad I am that school doesn't keep,
And she rocked the baby until it fell asleep.
Then stepping softly she took the broom,
And swept the floor and dusted the room.
Happy and busy all day was she,
As helpful and busy as a child could be.
I love you, Mother, again they said,
Three little children going to bed.
How do you think that mother guessed
Which one of them really loved her best?

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Kelida
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 01:48 AM

Not really an information site but poetry.com is pretty cool.

Peace--Keli

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: L R Mole
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 10:05 AM

Sounds good to me, and I also agree that this cyberchoir is unparalleled for generosity and information, as well as wisdom, which sneaks in now and then. Now if I could only find a source for the question "How goes the battle?"I'd be momentarilly content.

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: GUEST,Skipjack at ancestral home on Essex Coast
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 06:23 PM

I had a wander round that Poets Corner, but couldn't find a forum to ask this question. Anyone mind if I ask it here? My father has been trying to find the author of the following piece for ages. Any of you clever word people recognise it, Peter T, Art Theime et al?

TRANSVERSES

Traducing from the ancient and forgotten text of the future tongue - the ancestral poet says, in silent afflatus of revealed error; (though his metre is not capable of reproduction in known measures - Ed) "The wind of evolution blows athwart the opposing meridians of Reason

Objectivity, and visceral sensation alike denote perturbation of the medullary tissue, inherited from your reptilian forefathers. What you call 'Reason' is determination of patterns in the lumber-room within Cromagnon's premature yet worn-out mind.

If 'order' has existence it consists, subjectively, only in a chosen manipulation of mock detachment and loose ley-line lore. The atom, seen to oscillate, creating an appearance of ordered repetition and predictable frequency, you interpret the vibration as an absolute phenomenon

But, at the Directrix of elliptic obliquity, on which the eye, at the end/origin of 'Continuum' is vectorially aligned - no movement is seen in the dance of the electrons. Their frantic rhythm is the trembling of your retina, scanning in metric Terpsichore, as Pithecanthropus was wont.

These yet unwritten lines of the Janus-headed, both ways facing prophet's chronicle; echoing between the boundary poles of 'Now' and 'Then' speak of self-replenishing; explosive entropy in equilibrium; of zero plus infinity; buzzing in the neo-cortex of captive homo Planetensis........

.... of the cold distillery in disembodied cosmos, contemplating itself reflexively; condensing Nothing into Being, and back again ad some finitum; disentangling and re-knotting the phylum stuff of Omega. Wet your finger and feel ! The breeze blows Upwards, normal to both Thought amd Passion.

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: tgreenie
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 07:29 PM

twinkle twinkle little star. . .

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: TheOldMole
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:38 PM

Keli -- maybe you meant www.poems.com -- also known as Poetry Daily. This is a wonderful site, with a new poem every day from either a new book or a recent magazine, plus a lot of links to interesting poetry sources.

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Fiolar
Date: 24 Jun 00 - 05:02 AM

Try www.zoomnet.net/~petecol/poemlist.html Would like to know what you think of the site. Mike

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Edmund Flynn (inactive)
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 09:24 PM

Thank you! Thank you ! one and all .. and especially Sorcha, who scored a bullseye.
Sorcha, please tell me how you went about finding the words. I would like to have a go at when,(and if) the next request for for a poem comes my way.
Meanwhile I'll noodle around through the several suggestions that others made.
Again .. thanks to all !!!

Edmund

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 09:30 PM

Edmund, I use a search engine called Copernic 2000, and the basic download is free. I just typed in the few words that you gave, and it searched for that phrase. It takes a few searches to learn how to use any mega-search engine, but I have come to prefer Copernic over any other, including WebFerret. I don't find everyting, by any means, but have about a 90% sucess rate, so far. Just type Copernic into your home page search box, then download the basic program. They don't even send you begging letters to up grade and pay for the NEWEST program. Glad I could be of help.

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Edmund Flynn (inactive)
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 11:22 PM

Thank you, Sorcha. I downloaded Copernic and found the poem on several sites. I will be using that search engine often, I think.

I thank my lucky stars that I blunderred into this Cafe one cold winter evening. What a treasure it has proved!

Edmund

Subject: RE: poetry source equivalent to Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 11:27 PM

You are so welcome, Edmund. Our aim is to please. And, my Mister's middle name is Edmond, so we have to stick together, no? You want it, we find it!!