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Subject: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Mooh
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 11:37 AM

Stompin' Tom Connors was pictured on the front page of the Toronto Star yesterday having received another honourary degree, this time from U of Toronto. Without the opportunity to get his own formal higher education, he still became an icon, and an educator of others in a very "folk tradition" sort of way (my opinion). It is important that his kind are recognized this way, it helps keep a balance between the haves and the have-nots, helps to show us what we can do with ourselves, and helps us understand that universities can acknowledge the Stompin' Tom Connors of the world.

Any thoughts?

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 12:12 PM

I'm sure that Rick will be thrilled by this.

Personally, I enjoy Stompin' Tom. A real spokesman for the Canadian workin' man.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 12:55 PM

What's his degree in??

Goof-ology?
Vocal Annoyance?
Lousy Writing?
I always kinda figured that He was the pro-wrestling of folk music... None of it's real, but he puts on a good show for the folks that like him!

LOL!!!

{~`


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 04:59 PM

Hi Steve. I'm afraid "thrilled" is not neccessarily the word I might use. He's made many very adroit business decisions over the years, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan musically. On the other hand he's reached MANY people with what he writes, so more power to him.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 05:23 PM

Universities giving honorary degrees reinforce the belief that they have some godgiven monopoly on adult education. I am against them in principle. They are ridiculous pandering to the image universities have of themselves, and what they try and promote among the culture at large. They should be abolished. If society wants to honour people, fine. Don't set up the universities as arbiters of what constitutes knowledge, wisdom, lifelong contributions to society. It debases everyone involved. Phooey. (I currently teach at two universities, and have some degrees to my name).

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: SDShad
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 05:43 PM

Rick, ya mean you don't think it's goofy that the man in the moon is a Newfie? :-)

I guess I thought Stompin' Tom was kinda fun when I was a little kid, watching his show on the CBC(?) in motel rooms across Canada from Manitoba to British Columbia one summer, when my family went along with my Dad on a research trip to various archives and Indian reservations.

But maybe it was just the thrill of being in a different country for the first time. Haven't listened to him since the mid-70s to be honest. My tastes what they are now, I might well find the Man in the Moon song a little grating. But it was fun then.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 06:05 PM

Although not a Stompin' Tom fan, I liked his song that went 'My name is Ben, down here in the pen, where I take the guff and I suffer, but I'll be free, when I'm 53 and I bet I'll be a whole lot tougher.' Does anyone have the lyrics?


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 07:02 PM

Belittles people who had to work hard for a degree; as far as I'm concerned he doesn't deserve one for his "music" Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: GUEST,Barry Finn
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 08:01 PM

Didn't some museum of higher Ed just honor Dan "Quacking, don't make fun of my family" Quale, just goes to show ya, ya can take the brains out of the buffon shove them down the throat of an ant, shake the ant & the brain would still rattle like a BB in a boxcar or give 'em a degree the end result would still be the same. Barry


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: GUEST,Joerg
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 08:53 PM

I'm feeling something like flattop. I remember that there are two songs done by Stompin' Tom I enjoyed very much when I was young, but don't ask me for their titles, and I even can't remember the tunes.

If people (artists) who do things like these to me shouldn't be honoured, who should? There are many people who are, but...

BTW I'm a little disapponted by what I can find about Stompin' Tom and his songs on the net. If anybody can tell me some links, thanks in advance.

Joerg


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Mooh
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 10:11 PM

I figured this thread would attract strong opinion. An acquaintance who is a very fine guitar player who's been playing pro for 20 years does a great Stompin' Tom set which is always well received in pubs. No matter what we may think of STC, he's got a market and a unique attraction. Forgive me for my strong opinion, but I think he's much misunderstood. I wouldn't want a steady diet of him but geez he's made alot from...how many chords?...and I wish I had his secret.

How much is a sheet of plywood these days? Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 10:24 PM

How is John Allan Cameron these days? And wherefore and whither is he? It's theadcreep, but this 'discussion' just seems to make me think of JAC.

I've enjoyed him whenever I've seen/heard him. Once in Chicago and several times in Winnepeg.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: mactheturk
Date: 21 Jun 00 - 11:42 PM

You have to appreciate his "to-it-and-at-it-iveness."

300 songs, 40 albums and all the while, poundin' his boot on the stage floor.......

Mac


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 12:21 AM

Art. I see John Allan a couple of times a year. He doesn't get asked to any festivals and is somewhat rightly ticked at that. He plays a lot with his son Stewart who is a dynamite musician. He's a fine man and still picks those fiddle tunes with his thumb on a beautiful twelve string.(not the Martin anymore)

Rick


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: ddw
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 12:42 AM

I don't know how U of T picks it honorees for bogus degrees, but if its done by a vote of the graduating class — which is pretty common — a degree for STC can only be a grads' stuff-it-up-your-nose joke on the university.

I tend to agree with the post above that said honorary degrees are an afront to the people who worked to get them, but I guess the practise has garnered some pretty good donations to schools from people like that — buffoons who have made a lot of money and don't know what the "degrees" are really all about.

Also agree with some of the assessments of STC's musical and lyrical abilities — he became a foot stomper because he couldn't get anybody's attention with anything else he was doing on stage.

david


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: RichM
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 11:48 AM

Interesting. Some think that honoring someone like Tom Connor is an affront to graduates who went the formal route. Maybe so, but not all education comes from within the ivy walls. But then again, i must admit my prejudices:I come from the same working class as Tom, and my son will be the first university graduate in the family.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 01:28 PM

JAC played our Celtic Fest last year... and man oh nuts what a dissapointment... He was scheduled to close the festival, to go on after Kilt, the poor old bugger... and he spent the entire Sunday strapped to the hospitality tent, getting drunker and drunker... by the time he took the stage he was in such a terrible state and the crowd was wipped into such a lather that he practically got booed off... Finally, whether from alcohol poisoning or in a desperate attempt to curry favour he called Kilt to get back up... they did so gladly and he slowly slid off the back of the stage during the next song...

So, I'm not impressed by him at all...

So, what IS Tom's shiny new degree in???

{~`


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 02:07 PM

Plywood.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: GUEST,James
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 02:36 PM

I like some of Toms stuff..but I abhor this foolishness of giving degrees to Celebs like Tom and Wayne Gretzky. This is cheap pr, it makes the reciepients look foolish and ignores much worthier people.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 05:06 PM

Poor Steve Latimer! Hey my friend, I'll bet you didn't know how much controversy Stompin' Tom could stir up!

Actually he's been pretty controversial ever since he was first noticed by the general public. Not (oddly enough) by the CONTENT of his material, but by the QUALITY of it. For many years he was angry that he never got mainstream airplay...and he blamed that on his rabid "Pro-Canadian" themes. Folks in the industry answered simply that his records were atrociously made (bad sound, tons of mistakes, and totally repetitive) and weren't even close to being playable on air.

He was at times compared to Woody Guthrie, and there are similarities, but Woody was never CLOSE to being a mainstream artist. The big difference was that, although completely rural in background, Guthrie's poetry captured the attention of intellectuals, as well as the (left leaning) working class. Stompin Tom's poetry was mostly seen as bad doggerel with Canadian place names thrown in, by ALL of the "serious" reviewers.

Perhaps the biggest difference between Tom and Woody has been financial acumen. Tom is apparently a very wealthy man from royalties and investments.

Like Bill Monroe, AFTER he had been discovered by a young college crowd, I think Tom has probably mellowed a bit, and I'm sure he enjoys the attention of the kids who'd rather drink their beer to the strains of "Gumboot Clogeroo", "Bud the Spud", and "The Hockey Song" than "Kumbaya"...or Courtney Love.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Mike Regenstreif
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 05:42 PM

Rick,

I interviewed Stompin' Tom a couple of years ago for the Montreal Gazette and mentioned that I'd seen comparisons of him and Woody Guthrie. He said he'd heard OF Woody just lately (this was 1997 or '98), but had never heard him. Said he wasn't interested in ever listening to Americans.

Mike Regenstreif


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 07:31 PM

Weel,weel! Ah see there's a few trawlers in here tae.
Back in the early 70s ah spend a bit o' time on the road wi'STC an' if judgin' by the reaction o' the audience Tom wis a "STAR'
Ah mind ane time we were in London Ont. sharin' the bill wi' Hank Snow,Wilf Carter an' a few ithers wha's names escape me no.Believe it if ye like Tom stole the show.Tom is more of an entertainer than a musician.Wilf is a fine country singer but no' much o' a personality on stage.Hank did a wee bit o' chattin' wi' the crowd but it wis maistly aboot his son Jimmy bein' in the ministry an' an' the renovations tae the Grand ol' Opry.
After the show Wilf an' Tom showed a lot o' patience wi' the people who wanted their picture tae'in wi' them an' signin' autographes.Cannae say the same for Hank though.
If ye listen to Toms songs sung by someone wi' a half decent singin' voice it puts them in a different light.Ah must agree that he has an atrocious voice,but then again whit aboot Dylan?
Anither thing,Tom has also invested in a lot of singers who would otherwise[at that time]never be able tae afford tae record.Ye can include me in that!!
talkin' aboot voices.Ah also agree that John Allans leaves a lot tae be desired.Personally it goes through me like rusty nail!!However,he is a fine gentleman an' ah don't know wha' it wis that Clinton saw at the show but ah find it hard tae believe aboot the drinkin' as ah've been in his company in mah hoose an' ah can assure ye that he DOES NOT DRINK. As a matter o'fact ah had tae drink his share masel'
Gettin' back tae Tom.Ah think the big sellim' point wi' his songs wis the humour,a thing sadly lackin' nooadays.Ah also mind ane time bein' threw oot o' Steeles Tavern for sing a slightly of colour song ca'ed Cocka-doodle -doo.Ah didnae know that they had speakers doonstairs in the restaurant.Ye couldnae get awa' wi' much in Toronto in them days.
As regards Tom, in the words the great Ronnie Hawkins'I've come a long way for someone with very little talent'
Slainte LJC.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 22 Jun 00 - 09:53 PM

Rick!! Ah jist remembered,it wis Alan Macrae that put me up tae daein the cock song ljc


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: ddw
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 12:10 AM

Agreed, RichM — a lot of education comes outside the classroom. And for a lot of people, it never comes at all. Tom's a pretty good example of that; I never saw a spark of wit or finesse in anything he did.

The reason for his success? I always figured people will pay to laugh, but there's a helluva difference between laughing WITH someone and laughing AT him.

As for working-class bona fides, I'll just say that I'm the first person in my family to go past high school. And I got there the hard way — GI bill, working 30 to 40 hours a week in a store while I was carrying a more-than-required course load at school and sometimes doing gigs on the weekends.

Yeah, I resent seeing bozos handed degrees.

david


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 12:49 AM

Ach Dave ye're breakin' mah hert! Talkin' aboot laughin! Tom's laughin' aw' the way tae the bank. SLAINTE LJC


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: ddw
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 01:01 AM

Never said he wasn't, LJC — but that still doesn't speak to the issue. A bozo with money is still a bozo, so what the hell is someone doing giving him a doctorate?

Of course it would be interesting to find out which U of T department gave it to him — wonder if it was their English lit or their music department....

david


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 01:40 AM

Naw Dave, Tom's no' as daft as he looks.Ah agree aboot the degree,it's no' worth the paper it's printed on.Ah doot if it would get ye a job.Maybe it's ane o' they "ye had tae be there "things.Ane thing aboot his show wis that he didnae get ignored.Ah wis in some big halls wi' him an' they were packed wi' fans.He even had wee stompin' boards on sale that he would stomp on them fr ye if ye bought ane.They were sellin' nearly as fast as his records.Many folk have tried tae write songs but cannae get passed the first line an' they would be happy tae write doggerel never mind a masterpiece.He put a smile on a lot o' faces so maybe that wis why he got the degree.Nae matter how ye look at it he's a part o' the great canadian mosaic.
Dinnae forget "Ketchup Loves Potatoes" Slainte LJC.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Mooh
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 07:27 AM

So, I'll finally ask the question.

What charitable and humanitarian work is Tom being rewarded for? Maybe he qualifies in that way.

Anyone in cyberland know?

Peace. Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: pastorpest
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:07 AM

I will admit that Dr. Thomas Conners makes more sense to me and is more deserving than some of the stuffed shirt self-important clergy I have seen get honourary degrees. I am not a fan but admit his slap stick use of language is clever. There are no "standards" for honourary degrees. So these recognitions are of little consequence in the grand scheme of things.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Grab
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 08:51 AM

Honorary degree? I'm sorry, but a degree is to indicate that you've reached a certain level of knowledge in a subject, and that you've taken exams and stuff to prove it. It is NOT to allow the university to ingratiate itself with popular cultural icons, or popular individuals, or individuals who aren't popular but have lots of money to donate.

So my message to STC and all other honorary degree recipients would be this. If you want a degree, go out and EARN it. If your level of knowledge of the subject is good enough, go through the exams and get it the same way we do. If you can't be arsed to do that, piss off out of our hair.

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Mike Regenstreif
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 09:04 AM

Grab,

I don't think your issue should be with Stompin' Tom or anyone else for accepting an honourary degree. In the very unlikely event that one was offered to me, I'd probably take it.

Rather, your issue should be with virtually every university on the planet. They all use honourary degrees as publicity and/or fundraising tools.

Mike Regenstreif


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: GUEST,Aldus
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 09:37 AM

What I want to know is...where in God's name is little john Cameron from, Texas of Aberdeen.....or is he just a bad speller ?


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 11:57 AM

I'll support your degree Mike.

Aldus, when I first met Little John, I had to keep my "Glaswegian Diary" with me at all times.....then I heard him sing some Waylon Jennings.....man, that was culture shock! I suggest you pick up one of his recordings, that'll answer a lot of questions.

These days lots of people have "personal trainers". I suggest the Fair Alison as Little John's "personal translator"!

Or Aine.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: GUEST,Rob C.
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 02:16 PM

Ah, Stompin' Tom.... always controversial. Still, I defy anyone to point me to a Canadian country song (let's say post-Hank Snow and Wilf Carter) that is any better than "J.R.'s Bar."

As for Little John's assertion that John Allen Cameron "DOES NOT DRINK," I can only assume that's meant to be ironic.

Rob Currie


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 23 Jun 00 - 09:25 PM

Thanks for the vote o' confidence Rick.That wis back in the days before ah set aff on ah quest for mah "Doric" ancestry.It sems ah've got caught in a time warp an' ane o' they auld deevils took ower mah personae.Ah've got mah pal Sean Mahjumdar teachin' me standard english noo.He's a Newfoundlander an' can speak it real guid.
Talkin' aboot Waylon Jennings!There's a man that knows hoo tae fa' aff a stage. LJC


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: alison
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:20 AM

Can't see your problem at all Rick, .... I understand LJC perfectly........ he's just one of those haggis eating skirt wearing types that can roll his "r's" very nicely..... but I'll happily act as interpreter should the need arise.

Weelcome tae yer noo hame at Mudcat wee John. Lang may yer lums reek..... dinny let the sasenachs (or whatever you'd call Canadians) annoy yer heed!!

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 11:17 AM

Thanks Alison. Ah had tae tone it doon a guid bit noo that ah'm "online". Ye should see some o' the conversations on the DC Thomson 3js site wi' the bunnetheids fae Dundee.
It wid be awfy borin' tae have a'body soundin' like the BBC.
Newfoundland is a great place for accents.Have a listen tae Buddy Wassisname and the Other Fellas.They are very good musically an' the houmor is magic once ye get the hang o' whit buddy[Kevin] is sayin'.
He does a parody on Big Bad John called Stunned Earl that is brilliant.To see them live is a Newfoundland experience.He's only ane o' the funny,frolicsome fisherfolk on the fogbound isle. LJC


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: alison
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 11:26 AM

Little John,

do a search for "cuillionn".. she used to be a regular here... and she spoke your language.....

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: alison
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 11:34 AM

check this out and you'll see what she was like.....

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 01:24 PM

Thanks Alison. Now I can understand my friend without taxing my poor "Sasenach" brain!

Rick


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 01:30 PM

Slainte, alison.
Ah checked hur oot an' she seems like mah kin' o' wumman!!Is she no' aboot oney mair?
Onywie, here's a wee sample o' the leid afore it wis wattered doon.

1496, Scuilin Act

It is staute and ordanit throw all the realme that al barronis and frehaldaris that ar of substance put thair eldest sonnis and airis to the sculis fra thai be aucht or nyne yeiris of age..
.And quhat baroune or frehalder of substance that haldis nocht his sone at the sculis as said is haifand na lauchfull essoyne bot failyeis heirin fra knawledge may be gottin thairof he sall pay to the king the soume of xx pounds
Wi' a wee bit o' thocht ye can see how modern scots evolved oot o' the leid o' the past.
LJC


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Grab
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 02:14 PM

Mike, you're right. Apologies to STC for slating him. But it does piss me off that ppl are getting these honorary degrees just for publicity, or for putting money into the uni's back pocket - it devalues what ppl work for.

Grab.


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 02:52 PM

Whit aboot Ray Charles? Ah see he got an honorary degree efter he donated $2,000,000 tae a univ. LJC


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 05:50 PM

Stompin Tom could have more degrees than a thermometer and it doesn't change the fact that his recordings were made with NO respect for the listener. Just because your musical constituency is Blue collar, or country, is no excuse for constant bum notes from the band. (due I'm certain to lack of rehearsal) Granted, he's proud of his "outlaw" personna, but it was "THE MAINSTREAM" he criticized for not playing his records.

When Woody Guthrie was told to "clean up his chord changes and timing" he walked. But he never BLAMED them for wanting him to make better (or more "sober") recordings.

I read where Bob Wills was angry for many years that "The Jazz Community" wouldn't take his music seriously, but he NEVER clicked into the fact that if you're going to play five beats in a bar at least once in every song, you won't be taken seriously by anyone but your fans.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 06:02 PM

Rick,ah remember you writin' oot the chords an' words tae oor vast repertoire in the hoose across the street an' jist aboot tearin' yer hair oot at Ralph.He's no' bad noo an' he's like ronnie hawkins in that he kens talent when he sees it.
The problem wi' STC is that he is tone deaf'As fae as practicin' goes ye don't have tae dae much when ye only hae ane tune for aw' yer songs.Still the man is popular wi' a lot o' people.
ps ah jist phoned ye are ye oot? ljc


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Subject: RE: Stompin' Tom's degree
From: little john cameron
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 09:10 PM

Sorry catters, efter checkin' mah sources it seems ah am a bit oot o' date wi' mah JAC observations.Ah stand corrected.Too bad,we've lost a lot o' folk wi' the booze an'"HEAVY" drugs.It wid appear tae be ane o' the hazards o' the gemme. LJC. PS.Alison,drap me a line sometime an' we'll hae a wee gab.Ah can speak a broken kind o' english when ah pit mah mind tae it. SLAINTE. LJC


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