REQ. for Bibliography Link

Subject: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: LaMarca
Date: 14 Jul 97 - 04:11 PM

Dick and Max, In answers to a lot of requests for lyrics, people give the name of a good book to find songs of that type. In your copious free time (hah!), maybe we could have a Mudcat Folk Bibliography link, with a list of references for songs of different types. For example, in a thread on cowboy songs, a lot of us sent suggestions of song collections that the requestor could look for at their library. In addition to having a database of lyrics, a database listing good song collections by subject would give folks another place to go hunting if what they want (or the version they want) isn't in the DT. If the book list is complete enough, with title, author/editor, publisher, date, etc., folks could try to get the book from their library, through inter-library loan or a local bookstore. I'm sure a lot of us DT junkies have fairly good personal libraries; someday I'm even going to catalog mine (and someday I'll be the Queen of England, too). If and when I and other contributors here actually do compile lists of our folk/trad. reference material, would you like copies of those lists? I'm not volunteering to run a song-search service out of my library, just a list of useful reference books for finding songs.... Does anyone else out there think this would be a useful resource to have?

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 Jul 97 - 05:04 PM

I always appreciate suggestions concerning how to spend my free time. Seriously, though, if anyone (NOT me) wishes to collect theis material (in ASCII format), I can easily put it into the kind of searchable database that we're using for the DT. I think it would be a valuable reference item.

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: John
Date: 14 Jul 97 - 07:29 PM

What a privilege it is to be communicating with such positive people - and constructive suggestions. I don't pretend to have an extensive library, but would be happy to contribute an index (if that is my correct take-out) TO an initial volume of Irish, Scottish or Australian tunes.

I may need some quick advice as to what ASCII format really means, but would be happy to learn and partake.

Regards John

PS - I only ever hit the SUBMIT button once, but if recent evidence is anything, it would appear as if I am afflicted by the other form of DT.

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: Alice in Montana
Date: 14 Jul 97 - 08:22 PM

LaMarca... I think this is a great suggestion! This would certainly help those who are searching beyond the lyrics for music, chords, historical background, etc. of folk and traditional music. Are volunteers lining up to contribute? GREAT IDEA. Alice

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 Jul 97 - 10:23 PM

ASCII means that only printable characters are used--not the various control characters that provide formatting in most word processors. It's easy enough to convert from just about any word processor output to ASCII--it's in the SAVE AS (or equivalent) command and is sometimes called Text.

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: John
Date: 15 Jul 97 - 12:09 AM

I will provide publisher's details and index to "Penguin Book of Australian Folk Songs". Will be interstate until end of week, so I don't expect to input until about seven days time.

Dick, thank you for the straight-forward answer re ASCII.

Regards John

PS - Suggest that @sheep be added to the archetypical Aussie shearing song "Click Go The Shears" in DT.

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: Dick Wisan
Date: 15 Jul 97 - 01:08 AM

Just a word about ASCII for people accustomed to sophisticated word-processors: many word processors, when you tell them to save in ASCII or "text" put it into an odd form, which translates the word-processor's "soft line-ends" into simple blank spaces, so the text comes out as a series of one-line paragraphs, often separated by nothing.

If you prepare a text for ASCII, it's well to format it with hard line-ends, and keep them to 70 characters or so.

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From:
Date: 02 Aug 97 - 09:13 PM

These two sites are useful for finding music

http://www.halcyon.com/aseaberg/ Music Selection Resources on the Web

Seems to be set up for music librarians to track down accurate bibliographic information for cataloguing music in different formats, but there are links to other sites as well

http://celtic.stanford.edu/tunes.html Tunes at Ceolas

this site has a huge database of songs with reference to specific music books where they can be found (look up the name of the book in their bibliography index).

I really wonder whether setting up a songbook index in DT is duplicating other efforts already available on the net, and our time and resources might be better spent in the short term by doing some systematic web searches, finding out what is already available, setting up a links page, and then finding out what the gaps in the information are, and then we could take it from there.

Helen

Subject: RE: REQ. for Bibliography Link
From: Max
Date: 21 Aug 97 - 09:52 PM

OK, I have been working all day on something that takes advantage of the cookies that I have been placing on your pages as you signed up for the membership. This is a serve yourself links page. It is a system that allows you all to enter links to your favorite sites and other links of interest. It is somewhat of an experiment because it relies on honesty and collective thought.

There is a form here (http://www.onstagemedia.com/mudcat/links/EntryForm.cfm) where you can enter new links to the pages. You can view all of the links in the database here (http://www.onstagemedia.com/mudcat/links/all-links.cfm). Taking advantage of membership, you can go here (http://www.onstagemedia.com/mudcat/links/all-new-links.cfm) to see only the new links since your last visit to the links pages. You can also search the links pages here (http://www.onstagemedia.com/mudcat/links/findlinks.cfm) by category, title or description.

Remember, you must be a registered member (free) to participate in this feature. If you try to go to these pages without a cookie, you will be automatically forwarded to our membership page or will receive an error. Which leeds me to remind you that this is a prototype. It will change as the days go on, and may have a bug or so. Let me know how you like it or what I could change or what doesn't work in this thread.

Oh, yes, you can also keep a personal bookmark file of your favorite links too. You must see it to believe it. We are now working on the same idea with threads.