Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafesj

Post to this Thread - Sort Descending - Printer Friendly - Home


folk music and professional wrestlers

GUEST,BIG BAD JOHN 26 Jun 00 - 04:07 PM
Mbo 26 Jun 00 - 04:09 PM
GUEST 26 Jun 00 - 04:20 PM
JenEllen 26 Jun 00 - 04:28 PM
wysiwyg 26 Jun 00 - 04:32 PM
Bill D 26 Jun 00 - 05:44 PM
Sourdough 26 Jun 00 - 05:57 PM
GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU 26 Jun 00 - 06:06 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 26 Jun 00 - 06:15 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 26 Jun 00 - 06:17 PM
Bill D 26 Jun 00 - 06:32 PM
Sorcha 26 Jun 00 - 06:54 PM
GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU 26 Jun 00 - 07:00 PM
Bill D 26 Jun 00 - 07:10 PM
Dharmabum 26 Jun 00 - 07:31 PM
Bugsy 26 Jun 00 - 08:56 PM
Little Neophyte 26 Jun 00 - 09:39 PM
Mbo 26 Jun 00 - 09:47 PM
rangeroger 27 Jun 00 - 12:14 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 27 Jun 00 - 04:15 AM
sian, west wales 27 Jun 00 - 05:54 AM
SINSULL 27 Jun 00 - 08:56 AM
Dave the Gnome 27 Jun 00 - 09:07 AM
Mbo 27 Jun 00 - 09:08 AM
GUEST,BIG BAD JOHN 27 Jun 00 - 09:38 AM
SINSULL 27 Jun 00 - 09:45 AM
Mbo 27 Jun 00 - 09:49 AM
GUEST,BIG BAD JOHN 27 Jun 00 - 10:00 AM
alison 27 Jun 00 - 10:36 AM
sian, west wales 27 Jun 00 - 11:10 AM
Sorcha 27 Jun 00 - 11:21 AM
SINSULL 27 Jun 00 - 01:03 PM
Rick Fielding 27 Jun 00 - 01:15 PM
Little Neophyte 27 Jun 00 - 07:05 PM
JenEllen 27 Jun 00 - 07:25 PM
alison 27 Jun 00 - 09:28 PM
Bugsy 27 Jun 00 - 09:28 PM
JedMarum 28 Jun 00 - 09:48 AM
GUEST,Mike Billo 28 Jun 00 - 10:10 AM
SINSULL 28 Jun 00 - 12:35 PM
Hollowfox 05 Jul 00 - 12:23 PM
GUEST,Charlie 05 Jul 00 - 03:45 PM
Jim Dixon 05 Jul 00 - 03:48 PM
catspaw49 05 Jul 00 - 05:57 PM
GUEST,Big Bad John 05 Jul 00 - 10:11 PM
Chanteyranger 06 Jul 00 - 01:30 AM
GUEST,the yupper 07 Sep 05 - 06:51 AM
manitas_at_work 07 Sep 05 - 09:51 AM
mooman 07 Sep 05 - 10:05 AM
M.Ted 07 Sep 05 - 01:39 PM
GUEST,Andy 08 Sep 05 - 11:37 AM
GUEST,Stan Earnshaw 08 Sep 05 - 03:20 PM
GUEST,Wrestling Nut 08 Sep 05 - 04:45 PM
GUEST,Grapple Fan 08 Sep 05 - 04:56 PM
GUEST,Ponty 08 Sep 05 - 09:24 PM
M.Ted 09 Sep 05 - 12:48 AM
Cluin 09 Sep 05 - 01:47 AM
GUEST,Sal 09 Sep 05 - 09:58 AM
GUEST,Paolo 09 Sep 05 - 10:59 AM
fat B****rd 09 Sep 05 - 12:03 PM
GUEST,Anon 09 Sep 05 - 02:48 PM
Dave the Gnome 13 Mar 07 - 02:21 PM
The Sandman 13 Mar 07 - 02:24 PM
GUEST,Wayne 14 Mar 07 - 06:46 AM
Share Thread
more
Lyrics & Knowledge Search [Advanced]
DT  Forum
Sort (Forum) by:relevance date
DT Lyrics:













Subject: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,BIG BAD JOHN
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 04:07 PM

Hello to all you Mudcatters. I'm happy to be here. My name is is BIG BAD JOHN. I weigh in at 242 pounds of pure muscle and am now in training for my debut this fall with the World Wrestling Federation.

The reason I'm here is that I'm also an amateur musician and lover of folk music. I play old-time mountain music on the banjo and guitar in the style of Roscoe Holcomb, who was my gradfather's uncle. I also like bluegrass, newgrass and singer-songwriters like John Prine and Jimmie Dale Gilmore.

You'd be surprised, but there are quite a few wrestlers who like folk music. I even got a couple of the guys to go to Merlefest with me a couple of months ago.

I've never really mentioned my wrestling when I'm around folk music people but I've always wondered if folk music people are into wrestling. I know we get people from all walks of life coming to our shows and watching the WWF and WCW on TV.

Do any of you have any favorite wrestlers?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Mbo
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 04:09 PM

Scotty Too Hottie! I want his hat!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 04:20 PM

Hee hee! Crazy thread! How fantastic!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: JenEllen
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 04:28 PM

Outasite! Welcome Big Bad John, glad to have you here.

You'll find that most of the folks here have many talents, some more reputable than others. Be sure to check the old threads for bluegrass and John Prine, there've been some great discussions.

Wrestling, yeah, I'm a Road Dogg and Undertaker fan. Shhhh, don't tell. And if you get over to Praise's house party, I'll call ya as my tag-team pillow fighting partner, deal?

Welcome, Elle


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 04:32 PM

oH. mY. gOD. I just tripped over another stereotype.

Welcome, BBJ!!!

~S~


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 05:44 PM

favorite wrestlers? SURE!...Lou Thesz, Man Mountain Dean, Gorgeous George, Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Bruno Sammartino.....Yes, I AM old enough to have watched a couple of them!..*grin*...and BBJ, you have EXCELLENT taste in Roscoe Holcomb!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Sourdough
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 05:57 PM

I haven't watched much wrestling but I sure will root wholeheartedly for Roscoe Holcomb's grandnephew!

Go, Big Bad John!

Sourdough


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 06:06 PM

Bill, you know all the ones my Dad always talks about!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: ADD: Be Kind to Your Parents (Harold Rome)
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 06:15 PM

Be sure to teach 'em "Be Kind To Your Parents" which I am surprised not to find in the DT:

Be kind to your parents
Though they don't deserve it
Remember they're grownups,
A difficult stage of life.
They're apt to be nervous
And over-excited,
Confused from their daily toil and strife.
Just keep in mind,
Though it seems odd, I know,
Most parents once were children long ago- incredible!
So treat them with patience,
And sweet understanding,
In spite of the foolish things they do-
Someday you may wake up,
And find you're a grownup too!

I taught this to my schoolkids and had an irate parent in my room the very next day! You can, too!


    Note: Songwriter was Harold Rome, Copyright 1954 & 1955 - from his musical Fanny.
    -Joe Offer-


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 06:17 PM

Whoops! Wrong thread! Now, how did that happen??


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 06:32 PM

Mbo...40-50 years ago, they often really wrestled!...the guys now are wonderful performers and in great condition, but REAL wrestling is too boring for TV, I guess...lots of lying on the floor straining to break a hold, etc...hitting each other with chairs is MUCH more interesting.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Sorcha
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 06:54 PM

I am NOT a fan, but Kate is. I just wish somebody could convince her that this WWF etc. stuff is not real, and is choreographed. For goodness sake, who would stand around just waiting to get hit by a chair? (and I know, I know, you can get hurt for real doing this crazy stuff, but I think it is just stoopid. Would rather watch Discovery Channel) But welcome anyway, BBJ. We don't really care what your day job is.............


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 07:00 PM

HA HA!!! Check out my man K'Plett's take on the whole thing here!

--Mbo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 07:10 PM

that K'Plett is truly wise. Sometime it takes an outsider to really point out your foibles.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Dharmabum
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 07:31 PM

Welcome BBJ! I was at Merlefest too, Helluva good fest. Gotta do something about the violence at rivers edge though. Maybe we can get you to be the bouncer. We'll swap some banjo tunes next year.

Ron.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Bugsy
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 08:56 PM

Les Kellett and Jackie Pallo. Not forgetting Mick McManus of course!

CHeers

Bugsy


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 09:39 PM

Howdie Big Bad John
My dad use to take me every Friday night to the Memorial Auditorium in Kitchener-Waterloo (Ontario) to watch the restling matches.
My favorite were the Love Brothers and Sweet Daddy Sikhy(sp)
The only part I didn't like was when Sweet Daddy Sikhy would pull out a knife and start stabbing his opponent. My dad told me it was a rubber knife that squirted red paint.

Welcome to Mudcat Big Bad John

Bonnie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Mbo
Date: 26 Jun 00 - 09:47 PM

Yeah! It's about time we got someone with the music AND the muscle! Glad to have you on our side, big guy!

--Mbo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: rangeroger
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 12:14 AM

Welcome Big Bad John,maybe we could get Max to hire you to go after the Harry Fox Agency.You could sing to them while you bashed 'em with a chair.
rr


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 04:15 AM

Q:What does a wrestler play when he gets out his banjo/kazoo/bodhran/accordian?
A:Any damn thing he wants to !
RtS [who only wrestles-unsuccessfully- with his conscience]


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: sian, west wales
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 05:54 AM

Klondike Kate was my hero (here in the UK) about 10 years ago ... I don't suppose she's still around. We don't seem to get the small tours in West Wales like we used to.

Saw some Celtic (Breton) wrestling many years ago at the Pan Celtic Fest. in Killarney. Lithe, oiled bodies of nubile (can men be nubile??) young male bodies....

oops. sorry. one of the steamier trips down memory lane...

sian


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 08:56 AM

Hi Jon,

I remember Gorgeous George - wavy, blond hair and mirror in hand. Sat on my NaNa's knee and cursed the ref's like a trooper at age... nevermind.

Rikichi and Bubba Dudley do it for me. Although my nephew as a joke registered me as a Shane fan in a contest and the label has stuck.

Watched the "King Of The Ring" Sunday - was one of the few who paid for it. No little black box. King Kurt is an idiot. Vince, the genetic jackhammer is slime - Did I mention I am a fan?

So happy you're here!!!

I can say I knew you when. Dinner at the WWF some night?

SS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:07 AM

I well remember Les Kellet, Mick McManus and co. Introduced and commented on by Kent Walton every saturday afternoon. Giant Haystacks (god rest his soul) used to play darts for a local pub team but I always thought it was a bit unfair just leaning over and putting the darts in the board - he was HUGE!!!

Anyway - enough of the nostalgia. Welcome BBJ. I have been a folk fan for most of my adult life and a wrestling fan even before that. I was sorry to see British wrestling dissappear but, thanks to my son introducing me to WWF on sky I am now an ardent fan of The Rock, Undertaker and Caine and happily boo along with the rest at the mere sight of a McMahon. Hope you get into the right camp;-) and hows about a folk music intro to the ring?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Mbo
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:08 AM

I'm getting great vision!!! The Rock steps into the ring. He gives the crowd "The People's Eyebrow" amidst thunderous cheers and screams. The from off the ring, someone hands him a Martin D-85 acoustic. He checks the tuning once, and then deftly leaps into The Wreck Of The Old '97, thus proceeding to give the crowd "The People's Music." I'm starting to like the folkmusic/wrestling more and more...

--Mbo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,BIG BAD JOHN
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:38 AM

Well, thanks everyone for putting the welcome mat out to me. It's good to know that I'm not the only guy who is into both wrestling and folk music.

To Mbo: Scotty Too Hotty is a good guy. But he's not into folk music. He's the one who puts the Spice Girls into the boom box in the locker rooms.

To JenEllen: I'll pillowfight you sometime. I haven't really had a chance to get to know the Undertaker yet. He's pretty aloof off-camera. Road Dogg is a great guy who knows his music. He's really into old rockabilly stuff.

To Bill D: The wrestlers you mention are from before my time. But I've seen films of Lou Thez and Bruno Sammartino. They were great champs.

To Bugsy: I'm sorry, but I don't know the guys you mentioned.

To Banjo Bonnie: I also don't know the Love Brothers. But I went up to Toronto last year to train at Sweet Daddy Siki's wrestling school. What a cool guy. He showed us some of his old films. He had such a great sense of flair.

To Sian, West Wales: I also don't know Klondike Kate. Sorry.

To Sinsull: It was Gorgeous George who pioneered the whole idea of wrestlers being characters. What wrestling is today started with him in the 40's. Rikichi is another great guy. His whole family are wrestlers. I know what you mean about the Bubba Dudley. He's too funny. Just remember that "King Kurt" is just a character that was thought up for him. In real life he was an olympic wrestling gold medalist. Shane is all business, he'll be running the WWF some day.

To Dave the gnome: Giant Haystacks? You must be talking about the legendary Haystack Calhoun. He was over 600 pounds back in the '60's. I've seen films of him too. Awesome. The Rock has been really encouraging and I don't think I'm letting the cat out of the bag to say that the Undertaker and Kane aren't brothers in real life.

To Mbo again: My entrance music is going to be "Big Bad John", the old country song by Jimmy Dean. I've recorded my own version with me singing and playing banjo. It's great, if I may say so myself.

Thanks again for the welcome to Mudcat.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:45 AM

UH, BBJ,

I think Bubba is sexy. What's funny about him?

SS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Mbo
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:49 AM

Yeah, Big Bad John, that sounds AWESOME!!! Will we get to see you on TV, fighting and singing, soon?

--Mbo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,BIG BAD JOHN
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 10:00 AM

To Sinsull: I'll tell Bubba you think he's sexy. It'll give him a good laugh.

To Mbo: I'm training now for TV. If all goes according to plan, you should see me on TV in September.

In the meantime, you can see me at some of the arena shows in what they call the "secondary" markets. That means small towns where the arenas are only 2-4,000 seats.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: alison
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 10:36 AM

I remember my Gran making us watch the wrestling back in the 70's as she cheered and booed at Mick McManus and Giant Haystacks, (they were in the UK Big Bad John)......

I remember one of the Northern Ireland News programs Jackie Fullerton made the mistake of telling Giant Haystacks that "they only pretended and no-one actually got hurt"...... he changed his tune after Giant Haystacks landed on him...... couldn't get enough breath to carry on the interview....

slaine

alison


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: sian, west wales
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 11:10 AM

It just occurred to me that one of my god-sons would be mega-impressed by all this. C'mon, BBJ. You have GOT to join the Mudcat and put up an autographed photo for us all to see (and print off). My street cred. with the god-kids is pretty good ... but knowing a WWF guy is bound to put me up a few notches!

sian


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 11:21 AM

Mudder on WWF TV--just wait til kate hears this. She'll go bonkers!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 01:03 PM

Poor John. You must feel like a doctor at a cocktail party. Nice to meet you... what do you know about stiff necks, bad knees, etc?

Tell us about your music. How long have you been playing? Any recordings? Any chance of you joining us on Hearme for a sample?

You can even log in under an assumed name to avoid the wrestling questions. Will you wear your tights while you play?

SS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 01:15 PM

Not sure how many know this but Sweet Daddy Siki has been a fixture on the Canadian Country music scene for many years. I even played bass (or rhythm guitar) on one of his albums. T'was a long time ago. He hosts Karaoke nights now.

There actually was a professional blues pickin' wrestler as well, who I think passed away a few years ago. I'm trying to remember his name. Jim...somebody. Big guy, good picker.

All the best Big Bad John. Let us know if your travels bring you to Toronto.

Rick


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 07:05 PM

Big Bad John, I was wondering a few more things.

First, I would like to know what you think about Mick Mankind Foley's book 'Have A Nice Day - A tail of blood and sweat socks'. I wanted to read it but wasn't sure if it captures an authentic picture.
Oh, and there was one other wrester I enjoyed watching (early 1970s) Wipper Billy Watson. Do you know of him?

Second, SINSULL is right about all these questions but we have been so enamoured by your presents. Are you going to become a member of Mudcat? That would be great if you did because then I could send you a personal message. I would love to chat with you about your old-time mountain music.

Bonnie


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: JenEllen
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 07:25 PM

Yeah John, Bonnie is right. You can't pillowfight if you aren't a member! Get yourself a membership cookie and join the fun.

Mbo will have to write you an intro, he's dash at that kind of stuff.

Off the music thing, I'm interested in the health aspects too. Granted, choreography is one thing, but do you find there are substantial work-related injuries? Is it comparable to other professional sports? (Just don't let anyone stomp on the fingers, right?)

~Elle


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: alison
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:28 PM

Harpgirl and I are undefeated jello wrestlers around this place..... now maybe at last we've got some REAL competition..... hahaha

slainte

alison


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Bugsy
Date: 27 Jun 00 - 09:28 PM

I Didn't expect you would "Big Bad", They were the Wrestling Icons of the early 60's in the UK freestyle Pro wrestling scene when I was in my teens. Just a little trip down memory lane for me.

Then later when I moved to Australia, where World Championship Wrestling was in its infancy, there was Mark Lewin, King Curtis, Abdulla the Butcher, Dick the Bulldog Brower, Killer Carl Kurtis, to name but a few visiting Americans.

Hope you have a long and not too painful career in the WWF. Let's hope you get a better run than Brett the Hitman Hart.

Good luck man!

Cheers

Bugsy


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: JedMarum
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 09:48 AM

Welcome John, big and bad though you may be! All kinds of folks love folk music, and we are already an eclectic group here at Mudcat, though admitedly your presence adds still more variety, I suspect!

I'd love to hear your recording of Big Bad John, or any others you might have. I'm sure other Mudcatters would as well - are they posted on a website anywhere?

Also, bert has a thread going ( here )that posts performance events in which Mudcatters are participating; he might be persuaded to post your 'secindary market' gigs. There are Mudcatters all around the US, in deed all around the world. You'd probably have a Mudcatter or two showing up for one of these shows, even if they aren't wrestiling fans (yet).

Anyway; welcome to Mudcat!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Mike Billo
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 10:10 AM

Alright BBJ! Met Rowdy Roddy Piper some years ago when he gave an anti-drug talk at my daughters school. Seemed like a nice guy.

I remeber Hillbilly Jim as being a pretty hot fatpicker. What happened to him?

Also, where are the Bushwackers?

Will the WWF have you doing and pickin' on camera?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jun 00 - 12:35 PM

Rowdy Roddy - nice way to bring the thread back to music, Mike.

Surprised no one mentioned Hulk Hogan or Andre the Giant. SS


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Hollowfox
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 12:23 PM

Actually, SS, a folkie over here in Kent, Ohio named Ben Rochester was a roadie for Hulk Hogan a fwe years ago. Ben said he's a decent sort, but didn't mention his taste in music. Welcome, BBJ. You named yourself after one of my favorite songs from my checkered youth. It's good to find a musician with a regular job.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Charlie
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 03:45 PM

Over here in England there was a wrestler in the 1970s called Brian Maxine who made an LP with members of "Fairport Convention", a well known English Folk-rock group. Apparently it is pretty awful though !! But I have never heard it


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 03:48 PM

A thread about wrestling and music and nobody has mentioned Jesse "The Body" Ventura yet? Rumor has it that he personally selected all the performers for his inaugural celebration, which included performances by Jonny Lang, Warren Zevon, Trailer Trash, Slim Dunlap, Paul Lyder, Lance Stevens, and the Rhyme Sayers. Ventura even joined in with Zevon on "Werewolves of London." His voice is awful, tending to slide off-key, but he had enough exuberance to make you admire his chutzpah.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 05:57 PM

Well, this is a surprise.....Obviously came along while I was on the TN/GA hops.

Welcome John.....You've now encountered another kind of craziness here. The 'Cat is a tremendous place. Like Bill D., I remember Bruno and george and Argentine Rocco and the old guys, but I also got hooked for awhile in the mid 80's with the WWF bunch then. I really found it some of the best humor/athleticism on the tube. I also considered the ups and downs of pro wrestling kinda' matched that of big time TV religion and figured that perhaps they had the same audience. Always thought it would make a good thesis if I ever wanted a doctorate.

Favorites.....Savage, Rowdy Roddy, Jerry Lawler, Jesse used to have a good act as did Flair, although Flair's matches were all exactly the same in terms of moves. Used to like Jake the Snake's act a lot too, especially in his running feud with Rick Rude.......Ya' know, what I always really wanted to do was be a script writer for one of the organizations. Now I just tell the tales of Cletus, Paw, Buford, and the Reg boys....you'll run into them around here.

Spaw


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Big Bad John
Date: 05 Jul 00 - 10:11 PM

Hello Mudcatters. I've been out on the road working small town wrestling shows and am just getting a chance to check in. I'm only home for two days and then it's out again on the weekend.

To Banjo Bonnie: Mick Foley is a real mentor to us younger guys. I enjoyed reading his book. But remember to take everything about wrestling with a grain of salt. At wrestling schools, they show us films of the greats from the past. I've seen films of Whipper Billy Watson, but never met him personally.

To Mike Billo: I've not personally met Rowdy Roddy Piper but I've also heard he's a nice guy. Hillbilly Jim works behind the scenes at the WWF now. He's not really a hillbilly though. The Bushwackers are both over 50 now, but they still work some of the small time promotions. I don't know yet if I'll be picking on camera. I hope so.

I'm going to go and look around some of the other topics now.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 01:30 AM

Can you look at just one more, Big Bad John? I want to welcome you, and ask if you know of, and what became of my wrestling heroes from my youth. Pepper Gomez and Bearcat Wright were the major stars, at last around Northern California, in the 60's. The villains were Kinji Shibuya, Ray Stevens, and his tag team partner Pat Patterson. I used to watch "National All-Star Wrestling" every week on a local station, and went to see it live several times. My father once took me to a Pepper Gomez vs Kinji Shibuya match billed as the world's championship. (well, it was, as far as San Francisco was concerned!) There were more fights breaking out in the audience than in the ring! Though taken with a grain of salt, one has to appreciate the athleticism of the wrestlers, the hard work and training that goes into it, and the hazards in this line of work. I also appreciate how it allows us to have heroes in our youth. If you let us know when and where you're wrestling, there might be a Mudcat contingent!

chanteyranger


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,the yupper
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 06:51 AM

yup


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 09:51 AM

http://www.britishwrestling.cwc.net/haystack.htm
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/g/giant-haystacks.html

Brian Glover took part in The Mysteries at the National Theatre with The Albion Band and which lead to the formation of Home Service.
http://ayup.co.uk/gods/gods0-3.html

See http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/folk/records/ribbonofstainlesssteel.html for Brian Maxine


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: mooman
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 10:05 AM

Ah yes... reminds me fondly of Wild Man of Borneo who was an acquantance of my Dad and a gentle giant in real life. "Obsessed with wrestling" doesn't have his real name but I know it!

moo


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: M.Ted
Date: 07 Sep 05 - 01:39 PM

Big Bad John now wrestles with the WWE, and he is now known by his real name, John Heidenreich--he and his partner, Road Warrior Animal, are the new World Tag Team Heavyweight Wrestling Champions, as of July 24, 2005--when the beat Joey Mercury and Johnny Nitro at the Great America Bash in Buffalo--I am always delighted to see a fellow Mudcatter do well!!!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Andy
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 11:37 AM

Jackie Pallo used to play folk mandolin while Mick McManus and Giant Haystacks were morris dancers before becoming wrestlers.

Not a lot of people know that.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Stan Earnshaw
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 03:20 PM

I think it was the actually the wrestler Ricki Starr who was a morris dancer.

He used to dance around the ring in tights before and during a bout much to the annoyance of his opponents.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Wrestling Nut
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 04:45 PM

Les Kellett did a double act with the late Fred Jordan at the National some years ago.

There used to be strong links between traditional music and the wrestling fraternity in the late 60s and 70s.

Many well-known wrestlers appeared in folk clubs.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Grapple Fan
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 04:56 PM

The tradition continues!

Chumbawamba have a song entitled "Mick McManus' Haircut" - see their websites for the lyrics.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Ponty
Date: 08 Sep 05 - 09:24 PM

Details of this thread have appeared on various wrestling messageboards over the past few hours.

It's good to hear of the links between folk music and wrestling.

I knew Mick McManus was once a morris dancer.

I saw him dance outside the Shepherd & Dog in Fulking outside Brighton in the mid-70s and he also used to watch the Chanctonbury Ring Morris Men on many occasions.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: M.Ted
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 12:48 AM

This is an old thread, started five years ago--of course, many of us are still here--though Big John has been a bit busy lately--might be worth starting a new thread--


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Cluin
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 01:47 AM

BBJ is a New Orleans native whose home and family got hit.

from this site.

(just in case the link dies, the quote:)

John Heidenreich's Family Found Safe

From WWE.com:

New Orleans native John Heidenreich finally spoke to his wife and kids over the weekend. They're now staying with his mother in Picayune, Mississippi, after the house they were staying at in Slidell, Louisiana, was ruined by Katrina.

His father Ronald is recovering in Harahan, Louisiana. Both of his father's homes withstood the hurricane, although he is without power and low on essentials like food and water. Heidenreich has yet to talk to his dad, but other friends have relayed promising updates about his health and the condition of his house.

Heidenreich, who had his entire hometown leveled and most of his immediate family displaced by Hurricane Katrina last week, is heading home Wednesday to personally assess the damage.

"I'm anxious," Heidenreich told WWE.com Tuesday. "I want to see what all of this is going to look like up close and not on television."

Heidenreich, who lives in Meterie, Louisiana, will land at the Mobile, Alabama, airport Wednesday morning, where his wife will pick him up and drive him into New Orleans.

"I'm going to bring down as much food and water and supplies as I can for my dad and my family," Heidenreich said. "I have to see what's going on and check out my own house. I'm going to try and recover as much as I can."

Heidenreich will collect as many valuables as he can, including his cat Caramella, and drive back to Louisville, where he's temporarily staying at a hotel.

Louisville, or possibly Atlanta, could soon become the full-time home for Heidenreich and his family. With New Orleans and its surrounding areas so damaged by the hurricane, Heidenreich has a hard time envisioning a healthy future in the city.

"I'm probably going to move to one of those cities," Heidenreich said. "I need some time to find a place, but I'm probably going to move."




Hope his banjo and guitar made it out alright too.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Sal
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 09:58 AM

What a fascinating thread.

I never knew there were such links between burly professional wrestlers and the English traditional music scene.

Is it the same in America and can anyone explain why so many wrestlers are also involved in morris dancing and folk music?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Paolo
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 10:59 AM

I can't answer for the U.S. but in Britain you need only look to travelling people.

Both wrestling and traditional song have their roots in the travelling community.

In the early 1900s Gypsy Dave Smith was a famous wrestler in northern England earning a living in unlicensed fairground contests.

The same Gypsy Dave was a renowned singer of traditional gypsy songs and teller of stories about travelling people.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: fat B****rd
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 12:03 PM

Fascinating thread, I'd not seen this one until now. How are you BBJ ?. My Saturday wan't complete without The Royal Brothers, Kendo Nagasaki, Haystacks (a schoolfriend of John Cooper Clark, I believe), Tony Sinclair (St. Clair ?) Rollerball Rocco and the rest.
I like the conection between traditional music and wrestling. Don't certain areas have their own styles like Cumberland ?.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Anon
Date: 09 Sep 05 - 02:48 PM

If you're the f** B****rd I think you are then you'd make a pretty good wrestler yourself!

FYI Mick McManus is still alive and reasonably well.

Now in his mid-eighties I wonder which will be the first folk club or morris side to try and bring him out of retirement?


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Mar 07 - 02:21 PM

Just rediscovered this thread following a link from another. Looks like John is still wresting - or at least was in October last year. Anyone know where he is to give him a reminder to revisit us?

Out of interest Giant Haystacks and Haystacks Calhoun were two different people. Giant Haystacks was from the UK but wrestled a while in the 'states as 'The Loch Ness Monster'.

Cheers

Dave.


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Mar 07 - 02:24 PM

there is a song about danno mahony,from Ballydehob who won the world wrestling championship in the 1930,s


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate

Subject: RE: folk music and professional wrestlers
From: GUEST,Wayne
Date: 14 Mar 07 - 06:46 AM

Down at the Abbey in Leeds, one of our regulars, Roger, is a former professional wrestler (and tag team partner of the blessed Johnny Saint) and occasionally plays Big Daddy's theme tune on the gob iron, to rapturous applause.

He has great stories about supporting Big Daddy at various events and having to wrestle for up to an hour because the big man could only do 7 minutes at a time and four of those were taken up with clapping!


Post - Top - Home - Printer Friendly - Translate
  Share Thread:
More...

Reply to Thread
Subject:  Help
From:
Preview   Automatic Linebreaks   Make a link ("blue clicky")


Mudcat time: 5 April 2:02 PM EDT

[ Home ]

All original material is copyright © 1998 by the Mudcat Café Music Foundation, Inc. All photos, music, images, etc. are copyright © by their rightful owners. Every effort is taken to attribute appropriate copyright to images, content, music, etc. We are not a copyright resource.