Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Joe_F Date: 13 Dec 07 - 09:03 PM Hark, the herald angels sing: Glory to the newborn Thing, Who, because of radiation, Will be cared for by the nation. -- E. Gorey O Christmas tree, O Christmas tree, Oh, piss on thee, O Christmas tree. -- Anon. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE COVENTRY CAROL From: Liz the Squeak Date: 14 Dec 07 - 03:16 AM I love singing 'THE COVENTRY CAROL', but then, I'm warped and without a maternal instinct in my body... (anonymous Renaissance carol) Lully, lullay, Thou little tiny Child, By, by, lully, lullay. O sisters too, how may we do, For to preserve this day This poor Youngling for Whom we sing By, by, lully, lullay? Herod the king, in his raging, Charged he hath this day His men of might, in his own sight, All young children to slay. That woe is me, poor Child for Thee! And ever morn and day For Thy parting neither say nor sing, By, by, lully, lullay. Lully, lullay, Thou little tiny Child, By, by, lully, lullay. Second verse especially gets me grinning like the potential axe murderer I am! LTS |
Subject: Lyr Add: PLOUGHING AT CHRISTMAS From: GUEST,Young Buchan Date: 14 Dec 07 - 04:02 AM PLOUGHING AT CHRISTMAS isn't exactly a bundle of laughs: In Essexshire it happened so A man went out all for to plough, As he was ploughing along so fast Up came sweet Jesus himself at last. "Oh man, oh man, why dost thou plough So hard upon the Lord's birthday?" The farmer answered him with great speed, "To plough this day I have great need." His arms did tremble through and through, Until that he could no longer plough. The ground did open and he fell in Before he could repent his sin. His wife and children are out of place, His beasts and cattle now all are lost. His beasts and cattle they die away For ploughing on the Lord's birthday. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,guest Thomas Date: 18 Dec 07 - 10:25 PM I've long been a fan of melancholy xmas songs. Both Stan Rogers' "First Christmas" and "At Last I'm Ready for Christmas" bring tears to my eyes, for different reasons. "At Last... " recognizes the hassle and expense of xmas, along with its worth. Among my favorites are "We Need a Little Christmas" from the musical Mame, with its line "I've grown a little leaner/ grown a little colder/ grown a little sadder/ grown a little older" (and also "It's just one week past Thanksgiving...", reminding us that there was a time when celebrating xmas the first week of December was unusual, and something that only a mad genius like Auntie Mame would come up with). Then there's the third King's verse from "We Three Kings": "Myrrh is mine, its bitter perfume/ breathes an air of gathering gloom/ murm'ring, sighing, bleeding, dying/ sealed in the stone-cold tomb." Most recordings skip that verse. "Christmas at Ground Zero" is Weird Al's magnum opus, in my opinion. Check out the video if you can. |
Subject: Lyr Add: CHRISTMAS BELLS (H W Longfellow) From: Genie Date: 19 Dec 07 - 12:48 AM Some of the songs we usually think of as happy Christmas songs are, at least in their original versions, rather sad or depressing. E.g., "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" was sung tearfully by Judy Garland in the film in which it was introduced. Later, Bing Crosby, I think, changed the lines "Someday soon we all will be together, if the fates allow. Until then we'll have to muddle through somehow, so Have Yourself ..." to "Through the years we all will be together, if the fates allow. Hang the shining star upon the highest bow, and Have Yourself ... " I.e., a very wistful song of yearning and missing loved ones was transformed into a rather saccharine song about cosy holidays with family. (This song evokes even more bittersweet feelings for me because in the movie "The Victors" the song was played as soundtrack for an execution of a deserter in WWII on Christmas Eve.) Also, Longfellow's poem "I Heard The Bells On Christmas Day" was not the optimistic-sounding lyric that we hear in the song version, which was published about 10 years later. In the original poem, inspired on Christmas day 1860 (IIRC), the verse about "Till ringing, singing on its way, the world revolved from night to day ... " came right after the verse that goes "I thought, how as the day had come, the bellfried of all Christendom had pealed along th'unbroken song of "Peace on earth, good will to men." THEN came the two verses that clearly place the song in the US Civil War: I Heard The Bells On Christmas Day Here's Longfellow's original poem: CHRISTMAS BELLS (Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, 1863) I heard the bells on Christmas Day Their old, familiar carols play, And wild and sweet The words repeat Of peace on earth, good-will to men! And thought how, as the day had come, The belfries of all Christendom Had rolled along The unbroken song Of peace on earth, good-will to men! Till, ringing, singing on its way, The world revolved from night to day, A voice, a chime, A chant sublime Of peace on earth, good-will to men! Then from each black, accursed mouth The cannon thundered in the South, And with the sound The carols drowned Of peace on earth, good-will to men! It was as if an earthquake rent The hearth-stones of a continent, And made forlorn The households born Of peace on earth, good-will to men! And in despair I bowed my head; "There is no peace on earth," I said: "For hate is strong, And mocks the song Of peace on earth, good-will to men!" Then pealed the bells more loud and deep: "God is not dead; nor doth he sleep! The Wrong shall fail, The Right prevail, With peace on earth, good-will to men!" Although the last verse is hopeful, the poem makes the reality of war very evident. About 10 years after Longfellow's poem was published, someone rearranged the verses, removed the explicitly war-related verses, and set the song to music. (At least 2 different tunes have been used - 3 I think.) Other, even more depressing "Christmas" songs include: Mary Mild (or The Bitter Withy) - although they deal with Jesus as a young boy, they are often sung at Christmas time El Santo Niño (The Holy Child) Green Christmas - Stan Freberg - Stan took on the commercialization of Christmas so poingnantly and pointedly back in the 1950s that the song was pretty much blacklisted by radio stations |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Doc John Date: 19 Dec 07 - 11:49 AM Woody Guthrie's '1913 Massacre' - children murdered at a Christmas party. Phil Ochs's 'No Christmas in Kentucky' about a miners' strike. Good songs though! But for shear nausea Cliff Richard's 'Mistletoe and Wine'; the self proclaimed Christian Singer cashing in on the Nativity and curiously singing of pagan practices and alcohol indulgence! John |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Betsy Date: 20 Dec 07 - 05:28 AM I was in the Dentist's waiting room the other day reading a shitty magazine that I only ever seem to find in Dentist's waiting rooms - listening to Presley singing "It'll be a lonely Christmas without you". I couldn't decide what was the worst - him singing THAT song , or the tooth ache . |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,wilsbowski Date: 20 Dec 07 - 07:19 PM Not read all the stuff above but has anyone noticed that this thread was started ten years and 6 months ago, and people are still posting (yes i know i'm one of them) comments/replys. I'm guessing Tim Jaques depresssing xmas cd never took off since I would have bought it any time during my teens. Eat My Shit!! |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Nick E Date: 20 Dec 07 - 08:40 PM The question I think of is if the tune has to be depressing or if just the sentiment of an up-tempo song fits the bill for depressing. The Kinks tune "Father Christmas" (I think is the name) fits that bill for me. "Santa Baby", for it's similarly shamless materialisim. "Grandma got run over by a Reindeer" for obvious reasons (Surprised I did not see it mentioned yet) As for playing it straight "Ill be Home For Christmas"... if only in my dreams... is rather melencholy. As for Stan Rogers, yup! He also has a spectacular bummer of a song set in winter (Perhaps around Christmas) in "Harris and the Mare" I do like much of Stan's music. As for the "Heroic Stan" stories of his death I think they are just the stuff of legend, would love it to be true but I think it is not. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: oldhippie Date: 22 Dec 07 - 05:12 PM I think the "heroics" were pretty much true. They were reported shortly after the incident by survivors. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: oldhippie Date: 12 Nov 08 - 07:01 PM Refresh |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,maple_leaf_boy Date: 12 Nov 08 - 09:51 PM The ones I would have added have already been mentioned. The Johnny Cash song, and the Merle Haggard song. (John Prines "Christmas In Prison", is pretty sad, but it can have a bit of a subtle humorous tone within the sadness; There's a song called "Last Christmas", that's kind of sad. I forget who sings it. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: trevek Date: 13 Nov 08 - 08:16 AM "Last Christmas", isn't it Wham? Tom Waits "Christmas card from a hooker in Minneapolis" Left Handed Guitar: try this, Lonely Jew at Christmas |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: trevek Date: 13 Nov 08 - 08:16 AM http://www.actionext.com/names_s/south_park_lyrics/the_lonely_jew_on_christmas.html |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 13 Nov 08 - 01:45 PM For those of us old enough to remember World War II and the songs associated with it, "I'll Be Home For Christmas" has always seemed especially poignant. It is pretty easy to picture a lonely G.I., sailor or Marine singing these words, on some remote battle site in December, thinking of family and friends he may never see again gathering for the holidays. |
Subject: Lyr Add: BLUE CHRISTMAS (Miles Davis) From: KB in Iowa Date: 13 Nov 08 - 02:00 PM BLUE CHRISTMAS (To Whom It May Concern) Miles Davis Merry Christmas I hope you have a white one, but for me it's blue Blue Christmas, that's the way you see it when you're feeling blue Blue Xmas, when you're blue at Christmastime you see right through, All the waste, all the sham, all the haste and plain old bad taste Sidewalk Santy Clauses are much, much, much too thin They're wearing fancy rented costumes, false beards and big fat phony grins And nearly everybody's standing round holding out their empty hand or tin cup Gimme gimme gimme gimme, gimme gimme gimme Fill my stocking up All the way up It's a time when the greedy give a dime to the needy Blue Christmas, all the paper, tinsel and the fal-de-ral Blue Xmas, people trading gifts that matter not at all What I call Fal-de-ral Bitter gall.......Fal-de-ral Lots of hungry, homeless children in your own backyards While you're very, very busy addressing Twenty zillion Christmas cards Now, Yuletide is the season to receive and oh, to give and ahh, to share But all you December do-gooders rush around and rant and rave and loudly blare Merry Christmas I hope yours is a white one, but for me it's blue |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: SINSULL Date: 13 Nov 08 - 02:09 PM The day after Halloween Christmas music was blaring at a local store and it all was depressing. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 13 Nov 08 - 04:10 PM Try Stan Freberg's "Green Christmas" or his take on "The Twelve Days of Christmas." If you hate the crass commercialization of the holiday, and the thought of it depresses you, they're still great stuff. |
Subject: Lyr Add: NO CHRISTMAS IN KENTUCKY (Phil Ochs) From: Rog Peek Date: 14 Nov 08 - 12:50 PM NO CHRISTMAS IN KENTUCKY (Phil Ochs) Christmas shoppers shopping on a neon city street Another Christmas dollar for another Christmas treat There's satin on the pretty dolls that make the children glow While a boy walking ragged in the cold Kentucky snow No, they don't have Christmas in Kentucky There's no holly on a West Virginia door For the trees don't twinkle when you're hungry And the Jingle Bells don't jingle when you're poor There's lots of toys for children when then Christmas time is near But the present for the miners is a stocking full of beer In the dark hills of Kentucky there's one gift that may be found The coal dust of forgotten days that's lying on the ground No, they don't have Christmas in Kentucky There's no holly on a West Virginia door For the trees don't twinkle when you're hungry And the Jingle Bells don't jingle when you're poor Let's drink a toast to Congress and a toast to Santa Claus and a toast to all the speeches that bring the loud applause There's not enough to give, no, there's not enough to share So let's drown the sounds of sorrow with a hearty Christmas cheer No, they don't have Christmas in Kentucky There's no holly on a West Virginia door For the trees don't twinkle when you're hungry And the Jingle Bells don't jingle when you're poor Have a merry, merry Christmas and a happy new year's day For now's a time of plenty, and plenty's here to stay But if you knew what Christmas was, I think that you would find That Christ is spending Christmas in the cold Kentucky mine No, they don't have Christmas in Kentucky There's no holly on a West Virginia door For the trees don't twinkle when you're hungry And the Jingle Bells don't jingle when you're poor Rog |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Joe_F Date: 14 Nov 08 - 08:42 PM "Box of Candy and a Piece of Fruit", by Bob Gibson and Tom Paxton, satisfies the description of this thread exquisitely. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: oldhippie Date: 25 Nov 08 - 05:14 PM Refresh, need more !!! |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE REBEL JESUS (Jackson Brown) From: Amos Date: 25 Nov 08 - 06:01 PM THE REBEL JESUS (Jackson Brown) The streets are filled with laughter and light And the music of the season And the merchants' windows all are bright With the faces of the children. And the families hurrying to their homes As the sky darkens and freezes Will be gathering around the hearths and tales Giving thnaks for all God's graves And the birth of the rebel Jesus They call him by the "Prince of Peace" And they call him by "the Saviour" And they pray to him on every sea And in every bold endeavour. Asthey fill his churches with their pride and gold And their faith in him increases. But they've turned the nature that I worshipped in From a temple to a robber's den In the words of the rebel, Jesus. We guard our world with locks and guns And we guard our fine possessions. And once a year when Christmas comes We give to our relations. And perhaps we give a little to the poor If thegenerosity should seize us. But if any one of us should interfere In the business of why they are poor They 'd get the same as the rebel, Jesus. But please forgive me if I've seemed To take the tone of judgement. For I've no wish to come between This day and your enjoyment. In this life of hardship and earthly toil We have need of anything that fees us. So I bid you pleasure and I bid you cheer From a heathen and a pagan, On the side of the rebel, Jesus. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,Jody Alis Date: 01 Dec 10 - 08:45 PM Hi, if you want to hear my depressing Christmas song "Christmas Time Alone" it is now available on ITunes under Alternative Music, Artist: Jody Alis. The album is called "Beating a Dead Horse" and it is a song on the album. Just in time for your festive holiday.... |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,mg Date: 02 Dec 10 - 01:15 AM Very very dreary and to my ear ugly songs are lo how a rose eer blooming and oh come oh come Emanuel..oh they drag. mg |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Dec 10 - 01:28 AM I disagree completely, mg. "Lo How a Rose E'er Blooming" and "O Come Emmanuel" are beautiful songs, if sung lightly. Too often, they're sung at dirge pace, but they're not intended to sound that way. They are songs of hope and joy, and must be sung with that in mind. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GerryM Date: 30 Mar 21 - 08:21 AM Surprised no one has mentioned Christmas in Vidor, by Rodney Crowell. [Verse 1: Rodney Crowell] It's Christmas in Vidor, eighty-eight degrees The taco stand’s padlocked, Spanish moss hangin' from the trees Flip-flops stickin' to an asphalt road The whole damn town is decorated to implode My lawnmower dies with a cough and a moan Ain’t nothin' around here you'd wanna stick a bow on [Verse 2: Mary Karr] How'd I wind up down here, you might ask For that story, brother, you're gonna have to pony up cash I planned to leave with a man dressed up like the president But he got him a union card, we never went Pipe fittin' wasn't no fun So he got him a bass boat and he got him a gun He got me a duplex, he got me some kids We was gonna go to AstroWorld but we never did [Chorus 1: Mary Karr & Rodney Crowell] It's Christmas in Vidor Ain’t it a bitch? It’s Christmas in Vidor [?] itch [sounds to me like, "Give it a red bug itch] It's Christmas in Vidor Nowhere to go It’s Christmas in Vidor That's ash, that ain't snow [Verse 3: Rodney Crowell & Mary Karr] I won't build no snowman, won’t drink no nog Just wander around in a bayou fog Take out the turkey, lay down the grub Fix my face, do the dishes, throw the kids in the tub Spend the late night standin' inside the fridge door Bathed in the green light and hungry for more Back door's wide open; here's what I know The end of that driveway is as far as I'll go [Chorus 2: Mary Karr & Rodney Crowell] It's Christmas in Vidor Eighty-eight degrees It's Christmas in Vidor Oh, Jesus, please It's Christmas in Vidor Leave me alone It's Christmas in Vidor Just bein' here's gone It's Christmas in Vidor Can't pay the bills It's Christmas in Vidor Just pop a few pills It's Christmas in Vidor My baby girl's due It's Christmas in Vidor Hope it don't look like you [Outro: Mary Karr & Rodney Crowell] I'll wear the school colors, I'll go to the game I'll take the prom pictures; don't they all look the same? Come Christmas in Vidor this time next year I'll be hopped up and propped up on Prozac and beer |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Gordon Jackson Date: 30 Mar 21 - 10:14 AM My mother discovered quite early on how to ‘discipline’ me, after my father had died, when I was eight. If I was particularly naughty she would play The Little Boy that Santa Claus Forgot. The lines ‘I’m so sorry for that laddie, He hasn’t got a daddy. The little boy that Santa Claus forgot’, were guaranteed to make me cry. I’ll never forgive her for that. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: leeneia Date: 30 Mar 21 - 11:02 AM I'm sorry that happened to you, Gordon. That was mean! ========== My nominee for a depressing Christmas song: I Wonder as I Wander. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Gordon Jackson Date: 30 Mar 21 - 01:44 PM Thanks Leeneia, it was about half a century ago so I'm over it now! |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: cnd Date: 30 Mar 21 - 04:30 PM I'm shocked no one's mentioned Red Sovine's classic "Billy's Christmas Wish," which culminates with a young boy named Billy, homeless and family-less, dying in Santa's lap. Another good one I have is called "Christmas In July" by the Genesis Gospel Singers, from their album Filled With Jesus (Granite City Studios GC-1260, 1985) which is a tragically sad song about an orphan boy dying of leukemia who's never celebrated Christmas and wanted to celebrate the holiday the night before he died. It's a spoken-word narrative set over "Silent Night" for extra impact. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: John C. Bunnell Date: 30 Mar 21 - 07:59 PM I'm surprised no one has mentioned Frederick Silver's "The Twelve Days After Christmas", which is (however amusing) a real downer for most of the birds involved, not to mention the pear tree. I first learned this in a seventh grade chorus class, and eventually tracked down a recording which remains on my phone to this day. There are several recordings on YouTube - it turns out to be a popular concert choir number (and to my mild astonishment, has been cheerfully performed by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir). That said, this one strikes me as possibly the cleverest. I should note that unlike most of the YouTube versions, the one I bought personally features a male singer, and references one of the maids a-milking rather than a drummer. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 31 Mar 21 - 01:50 AM what could be more depressing than this Australian classic- "Christmas has been cancelled" by Paul Mortimer, to the tune of Lili Marlene. Christmas has been cancelled, Santa Claus is dead. When the scandal broke He put a bullet through his head. Pinned to his chest they found a note Admitting what - the papers wrote: That he was on the payroll Of Toltoys and K-tel. It was bigger still than Lockheed Worse than Watergate. Kids throughout the world Called for his head upon a plate The myth was destroyed and in its wake, Old Santy stood there a callous fake. And evidence is mounting That he was C.I.A. The Church it tried to brand him A charlatan and worse. The Pope said 'Keep off Christmas, mate, We used that number first, As a time when all good Christians sing Of Jesus Christ and cribs and things. Of course it's only bulldust To get the faithful in.' Further allegations Have made the papers wail, That Santa's love for children Was way beyond the pale, He always liked to give out toys To little girls and little boys. It seems that he was harmless But some don't understand. Well we can still be jolly And celebrate New Year, And we'll be nice to other folks More than once a year. With no tinsel trees or plastic snow Or jingle bells or yo ho ho's. And no more f***ing reindeer Or little drummer boys. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Acorn4 Date: 31 Mar 21 - 09:10 AM "Come Back Ebenezer" |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,Clive Pownceby Date: 31 Mar 21 - 10:22 AM I've been known to trot out these two around the end of December; "Christmas Morning Blues" - Victoria Spivey from 1926. More modern - a '90s nu Country "Christmas Is Just A Song For Us This Year" by Louise Mandrell (Barbara's sister) & R.C. Bannon, Louise's one-time husband. One - desolate and the other somewhat mawkish. I'll let you guess which! |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: leeneia Date: 03 Apr 21 - 12:06 AM All the songs mentioned so far, I think, have been labeled depressing because of the lyrics. There's a song I consider depressing because of the melody, and that's 'O Little Town of Bethlehem.' It has one of the bleakest, drabbest Victorian-pious tunes of any hymn I know. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: GUEST,Mark Finn Date: 03 Apr 21 - 08:06 PM There are several versions of this sad song on YouTube - sometimes the child is a boy rather than a girl, with appropriate changes in the lyrics. "Six Weeks Every Summer (Christmas Every Other Year)" Hopelessly the ghost of me sinks down into a chair And underneath the cushion there's a ribbon from her hair Just a crumpled up reminder that my daughter's only here For six weeks ever summer and Christmas every other year. The role of part-time mother it's the toughest role I play Oh, my name's up there in neon lights but Lord what a price I pay Why, the only thing it cost was giving up our used-to-be's And my little angel baby by the name of Shelly. Bravely I step back into my room, it's only cheap veneer And I die inside till summertime or Christmas time is near When up the stairs comes all my prayers yellin' mom it's me, I'm here For six weeks every summer and Christmas every other year. Just found a note my baby wrote she left it by the phone She knew I'd need some extra strength to make it through the night alone It says I'll always love you mama although I'm only here For six weeks every summer and Christmas every other year. Oh, I'd gladly give up all my fame if only I could hear My Shelly calls me mommy every morning of the year... |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: RTim Date: 03 Apr 21 - 10:24 PM This is a real Victorian era Christmas song.....from May Bradley On Christmas day it happened so On Christmas day it happened so Down in those meadows for to plough As he were ploughing all on so fast Up came sweet Jesus hisself at last "Oh man, oh man, what makes thou plough So hard upon our Lord's birthday?" The farmer answered him with great speed "For to plough this day I have got need." Now his arms did quaver through and through His arms did quaver, he could not plough For the ground did open and loose him in Before he could repent of sin. His wife and children's out of place His beasts and cattle they're almost lost His beasts and cattle they die away For ploughing on old Christmas day Now his beasts and cattle they die away For ploughing on our Lord's birthday. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: BobL Date: 04 Apr 21 - 06:38 AM Sandra, a reminder: the historical Santa Claus was a bishop. The Santa Claus legend (including the commercial stuff) was tacked on afterwards. Leeneia, that's why in the UK we use a different tune, courtesy of that great folkie RVW. RTim, Victorian piety has a lot to answer for. |
Subject: RE: Depressing Christmas Songs From: Donuel Date: 04 Apr 21 - 09:04 AM Depressing any time of year is Andra Day singing Strange Fruit Billie Holiday lives again |
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