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Chords Req: A Smuggler's Song (Rudyard Kipling)

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Subject: The Smuggler's Song?
From: GUEST,chantria
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 08:53 PM

I'm looking for the chords for Kipling's "The Smuggler's Song", I believe the music was done by Leslie Fish.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: GUEST,Phil Cooper
Date: 03 Jul 00 - 09:34 PM

Is that a different version than the one recorded by John Roberts and Tony Barrand on Present from the Gentlemen? In that version the tune was by Peter Bellamy.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: MMario
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 12:27 AM

yes it's a different version.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: Susan A-R
Date: 04 Jul 00 - 08:29 PM

Did Cindy Mangsen record the version you are thinking of?


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: GUEST,chantria
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 07:37 AM

Don't know, heard it once at a Con, and that's it


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: MMario
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 10:38 AM

And basically all I know is that Leslie Fish DID write a different tune for the same kipling poem.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: Kim C
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 12:52 PM

I really like the Roberts/Barrand version. The banjo playing on it is splendid.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: Susan A-R
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 08:31 PM

Just picked up a recording of them doing a bunch ofKipling songs/poems, mostly Belamy settings, and it is great. The smuggler's soong is not on it, but lost of other great stuff is.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: Susan A-R
Date: 06 Jul 00 - 08:32 PM

Just checked my Mangsen cassette, and it is the Belamy setting.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Jul 00 - 08:37 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: GUEST,Big Malc
Date: 08 Jul 00 - 12:12 AM

The scottish group 'The McCalmans' recorded such a song


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 08 Jul 00 - 02:43 AM

So which smugglers song is it?

There is a pub in Rye, Sussex, UK, that was frequented by Kipling (among others) which has the chorus of 'Watch the wall my darling, while the gentlemen go by' on it. Could this be the one?

Or was it just inspriational??

LTS


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jul 00 - 11:47 PM

I was assuming it was the kipling one. Leslie Fish I know has done a tune for that and so has Peter Bellamy. I couldn't find midi's of either so I did my own.


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Subject: RE: The Smuggler's Song?
From: SeanM
Date: 10 Jul 00 - 06:21 PM

Once more, refresh.

M


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: A Smuggler's Song (Rudyard Kipling)
From: GUEST
Date: 04 May 18 - 04:08 PM

Bellamy is tuned in G. Roberts and Barrand are a note down - it starts on F!


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: A Smuggler's Song (Rudyard Kipling)
From: Joe_F
Date: 04 May 18 - 06:10 PM

I suppose that there must be a traditional tune in Britain, in that Flanders & Swann, in their song "Bedstead Men" in _At the Drop of Another Hat_, break into another tune for the line "So watch the wall, my darlings, while the bedstead men go by", in clear allusion (recognized by the audience) to "A Smuggler's Song".

Somebody ought to collect *all* the tunes to which Kipling was sung in the music-hall era.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: A Smuggler's Song (Rudyard Kipling)
From: Mysha
Date: 07 May 18 - 12:05 PM

It's The Owl in Camber, BTW.

Bye,
                                                                Mysha


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: A Smuggler's Song (Rudyard Kipling)
From: Anglo
Date: 07 May 18 - 05:39 PM

We (John & Tony) sang it if F, with a banjo F tuning. The tune is Peter Bellamy's. The poem (with the "Watch the wall my darling" line) is by Kipling, so it would not have a traditional tune. But like many of his poems, there were musical settings composed in the early 20th century. In the early 60s I kept a notebook of songs I was learning, or thought I might learn, often picked up at my local folk club, the Boat Club at Stourport-on-Severn when I wasn't away at university in Manchester. The Smuggler's Song is in there, from long before Peter made his setting, but I can't for the life of me remember a tune.

The "Watch The Wall" line was also used in the trouser skit in Beyond The Fringe.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: A Smuggler's Song (Rudyard Kipling)
From: Joe_F
Date: 07 May 18 - 09:24 PM

I shouldn't have said "traditional". I merely meant, there must be a tune that most people know.


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Subject: RE: Chords Req: A Smuggler's Song (Rudyard Kipling)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 May 18 - 05:26 AM

Not just a poem, but an intrinsic part of the book "Puck of Pook's Hill"
Full words Here from the Kipling Society


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