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BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots

SINSULL 17 Jul 00 - 03:34 PM
SINSULL 17 Jul 00 - 03:36 PM
kendall 17 Jul 00 - 03:42 PM
Bagpuss 17 Jul 00 - 03:56 PM
BlueJay 17 Jul 00 - 04:19 PM
Homeless 17 Jul 00 - 05:02 PM
catspaw49 17 Jul 00 - 06:45 PM
MMario 18 Jul 00 - 09:41 AM
Bagpuss 18 Jul 00 - 09:50 AM
GUEST,CLETUS 18 Jul 00 - 10:28 AM
SINSULL 18 Jul 00 - 11:36 AM
Skipjack K8 18 Jul 00 - 12:05 PM
GUEST,CLETUS 18 Jul 00 - 12:25 PM
sledge 18 Jul 00 - 01:03 PM
GUEST 18 Jul 00 - 02:30 PM
Richard Bridge 18 Jul 00 - 02:49 PM
Amergin 18 Jul 00 - 02:54 PM
Bagpuss 18 Jul 00 - 03:45 PM
SINSULL 18 Jul 00 - 05:13 PM
Gypsy 18 Jul 00 - 10:31 PM
Gypsy 24 Jul 00 - 11:26 AM
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bbelle 26 Jul 00 - 02:06 PM
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Ebbie 26 Jul 00 - 03:34 PM
GUEST,Thread Creep 26 Jul 00 - 03:45 PM
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Subject: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 03:34 PM

We have an over abundance of nonsense threads, provocative threads, meanspirited threads, etc. I bite my tongue and pass. But it leaves me angry. At the same time, others choose to answer and keep these threads alive.
My suggestion is that this become the answering ground. Ignore the provocation, let it go to the bottom of the list and die, and come here to vent your spleen.
Some people feed on the turmoil they create. Others try to demean members with their nastiness. This may be a way to avoid provoking them. Any takers?

I'll go first:
To the person who ridiculed Spaw for five responses to his nonsense thread re: homosexuality, please note that you came in second with four posts. And you knew it was a farce!


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 03:36 PM

Kendall,
My apologies. Great minds, same track and all that crap. I defer to your thread.
SINSULL


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: kendall
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 03:42 PM

as long as you agree with me, I'll forgive..


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Bagpuss
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 03:56 PM

A solution.

We use this thread to complain about Kendall's thread, and his thread to complain about this one!!!

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: BlueJay
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 04:19 PM

SINSULL- I think it's a great idea. I haven't responded to quite a few threads lately in hopes they would die. But I still may want to comment on some of these absurd threads. Let me make one up: "Why do most Mudcatters belong to the Mafia"? (violins, horses).

Perhaps some of the more ridiculous threads would disappear if folks posted here, rather than responding to the thread.

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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Homeless
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 05:02 PM

Since Sinsull and Kendall both referred to it, but didn't explain, there is already a thread for complaining about all the garbage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Jul 00 - 06:45 PM

That's OK Homeless........How about we make this the "Bear Dump?" We can all come here and watch the bears eat garbage......feed 'em some Butterfingers and stuff.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 09:41 AM

'spaw - butterfingers make bears fart really bad. can't we just feed them bread and honey or something that doesn't raise the methane count?


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Bagpuss
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 09:50 AM

You can't feed them all of that.

They just need the *bear necessities"

*groan*

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST,CLETUS
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 10:28 AM

Mr. Mario, its funny yu shud menchun that sinz me an Paw wuz awahchun bears one nite an Paw wuz flarin sum off an got ta thinkin that them bear farts wud reelly go up. so we made uz a torch onna long stick an Paw poked it up the bears ass and manalive I gotta tell ya it wuz sumpin to beholt. Paw got sinnjed purty bad an that bear had the baldest ass yu ever saw but the reel problem cummalong when the bear seem to take offense......Now Paw ownly lites up his own and sumtime a possum ur two.........

CLETUS


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 11:36 AM

Where did this go wrong? Hmmmm. Catspaw-bear dump- and down we go. Cletus, nice to meet you. You didn't leave that poor bear to go through life with a stick up his butt, did you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 12:05 PM

Cletus, you've got me remembering Miz Lillian, Jimmy Carters mom, or at least a guy called Alan Coren (Limey) who masqueraded as Miz Lillian back in the 70's, in Punch magazine. It was a weekly article that took the form of a letter from Miz Lillian, allegedly in Plains GA, to son Jimmy in the White House.

The occasion was the sad death of Indira Ghandi, the Premier of India at the time. Miz Lillian was despatched by son Jimmy to represent the US of A at the funeral.

That week's spoof article started:-

"Deeyuh Jimmy,

Them Injuns sho' have come a long way since Wounded Knee....."

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST,CLETUS
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 12:25 PM

SINSULL...Ain't no need ta welcumuz sinz me an Paw an the Reg boys bin roundt the Mudcat fer along time now. Yassee Max sez he woant givvuz no cookies sinz he figgers that itz agin the law sinz me an Paw an them Reg boyz got sum kinda thing he callz turmnill stupidity. But ifn' you look back ya kin fine sum stories bout uz. Even sum stuff bout how I wuz cooped up at that Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed an all.

I doan git it Skippinjack, but I know we all got a soft spot for the Carter family cuz they sing reel good even tho mosta them ar daid. Me an Paw ate a 7 corz meel with Billy one time at his gas station an it wuz mitey fine. Everbuddy had a 6-pack and I pickt the choclat moon pie whilst Paw and Billy had bananner.

CLETUS


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: sledge
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 01:03 PM

Us bears don't normaly post to this kind of thing, but i have to tell you folks about this hillbilly who shoved a flamming stick up my ass the other day. Mind you he walks funny these days as well, that banjo was an awfully tight fit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 02:30 PM

To no one in particular: "Oh yeah? Well, same to you buddy!"

I feel much better now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 02:49 PM

People seem to have got very uptight about the homosexuality thread. Surely it is quite proper to ask if the community of folk music has become sexually discriminatory. A former member of my band was gay and broke young ladies hearts wherever he went, by his lack of interest in them. No-one I remember risked his acid tongue (well, not twice) by trying to discriminate "live" and it would be a shame if closet prejudices could do the same online.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Amergin
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 02:54 PM

Is this where all the responses to my comments go?


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Bagpuss
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 03:45 PM

Richard - people got annoyed at the homosexuality thread not because of any sort of prejudice or discrimination, but because the person who posted it was just trolling.

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 05:13 PM

Sorry Cletus,
I meant that it is the first time you and I have crossed paths. Sorry it had to be in the garbage dump. Did you check the Foxy Song Challenge thread? I believe it took place at your friend Billy's gas station. In keeping with the theme here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Gypsy
Date: 18 Jul 00 - 10:31 PM

Wonderful idea! I am sick to death of the inflammatory thread topics that are being posted right now. Seems like people are just looking for fights, not conversation. I am not about to yelp about the "purity" of Mudcat being sullied, haven't attended a session yet where i did NOTHING but play, with not conversation, but some of these postings! Ugh! Hopefully, they will die a natural death, and soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Gypsy
Date: 24 Jul 00 - 11:26 AM

This is great....stayed off the 'cat for a while, and now we no longer have the awful, inflammatory threads that so distressed me. Yay to the Mudcat! Long may her tail wave.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 01:12 PM

I hate Anonymous messages in general. But the ones by phantoms pretending to be known members really offend me the most. With this in mind, I request that all responses to the CAPSPAW49 thread be dumped here. Vent and then dispose.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 01:15 PM

Sorry - it's CAPSPAW48.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: bbelle
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 02:06 PM

Mary ... the nice thing about the capspaw thread is that we are making a joke of the whole thing and it probably has difussed the poor idget.

This next is more to vent at Willie-O insinuating that I'm a liar by referring to myself as a "working hippie folksinger." He, apparently, thinks there is some status attained in being an unemployed, starving folksinger, rather than a paid musician.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST,free and unbound
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 02:14 PM

Oh moonchild you're SO establishment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: bbelle
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 02:35 PM

Oh GUEST, free and unbound, you are SO an asshole who doesn't have the balls to sign your name, and SO uninformed to think you've been in my mind.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Sorcha
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 02:56 PM

Good on ya, there moon! turkeys, turkeys, turkeys.......


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 03:34 PM

I move that all flamers sign in as a THREAD CREEP.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST,Thread Creep
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 03:45 PM

Moon basket

Calm down a bit!

This a web site - nothing more...


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: bbelle
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 03:46 PM

go to hell


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: MMario
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 03:48 PM

some people should realize that even though this is "only a web site" (which is another argument) that doesn't excuse rudeness, personal attacks, stupidity and deliberate disruptivness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: bbelle
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 03:52 PM

Actually, GUEST, free and unbound and Thread creep, or whoever the hell you are, if you insist on addressing me personally, please take it to the personal messages page. Oops ... guess you can't do that, unless you use your real name or become a member with your alias. Oh, well ...

moonchild


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 03:53 PM

moonchild - please don't be so angry - count to 20 at least before you spark off

you may have good reason to hate the world, but most of us quite like it and forgive whenever we can


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 04:07 PM

Moon child,
I will take this to a PM because I am not afraid to be identified with my posts and I have a name. But for the record, if you ignore them they eventually go away. They thrive on the emotions you supply. Starve their pathetic little egos. Allow yourself to thrive on the love and support you are given daily by people here who respect you and care about you. That respect is what instigates their spite in the first place. They are more to be pitied than censured. Smile, Moonie. Life is good.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: bbelle
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 04:10 PM

Thank you, Mary, but I this will be my last post. I seem to be fuel for whoever doesn't have the moral turpitude to sign their name and I don't want to be a party in it, anymore.

moonchild


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 04:10 PM

Mary

You call yourself 'sinsull' Can you please explain how that is any bit less anonymous than 'guest?'

I have no idea who you are - so please don't take the moral high ground


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: MMario
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 04:18 PM

Because Sinsull is consistantly Sinsull and makes no bones about it. She can be contacted through a PM and the response will come from her.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 04:18 PM

Moonie,
See in the PMs.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 05:09 PM

MMario,
Thank you for making the point so clearly and succinctly. Join Kendall in the ranks of Knights in Shining Armor.There are so many great people here. I hope Moonchild chooses to stay. She adds a gentle balance to Spaw's... welllllll to Spaw.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: bob jr
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 09:25 PM

the garbage idea didnt seem to work out to well


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 09:43 PM

Moonchild,... You are wonderful.

The 'net chats seem to be like snake pits, but this one is indeed different. Lotsa tention in our lives with no place to turn. Keep thinking good thoughts, and try to let the jerks down easy. It isn't about hurting them back, like some would say,... its about tai-chi.

ttr, (who otta listen to his own advice more often)...('!')


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 10:30 PM

*just making notes..compiling little turns of phrase...doing little searches.* Sooner or later, most trolls give themselves away by their style....


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 10:50 PM

Aren't you the clever clogs?


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 10:54 PM

caught two already...*grin*...who knows?


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 11:07 PM

You sure dont.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 00 - 11:14 PM

Let him alone. Let him feel useful


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Sailor Dan
Date: 27 Jul 00 - 05:11 AM

Well how do you like that 3 of the last 4 threads previous to this were posted by idiots. It gets to a point,(like the ones on their heads) that the signin "Guest" 99 times out of 100 equate to "idiot"

Sailor DAn


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jul 00 - 08:25 AM

I have a problem with the title "Idiot". Just because someone chooses to post under a non name such as "Guest" doesn't make them an idiot. We need a new and more accurate way of addressing someone who we dont approve of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: MMario
Date: 27 Jul 00 - 08:51 AM

that's why "troll" was originally coined for the internet. It has numberous connotations.


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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage dump for responding to idiots
From: Gervase
Date: 27 Jul 00 - 08:58 AM

I didn't think I'd ever get this reactionary, but I can now see the point of some of the arguments in the membership-only thread.
Sure, the Digitrad and the forum would be open to all, but couldn't guests have read-only access?
Personally I cannot conceive of any point at which I'd want to post anonymously. Gervase is my name, and if I think someone's a wanker, I'll call them so with my head above the parapet. If someone hasn't got the balls to post under their own name, they souldn't have the right to flame and troll anonymously. In my book the word "Guest" comes with its own connotations - like respect, courtesy and the need sometimes to bite you're tongue when someone is being an arsehole?
The Mudcat is a big place, and getting bigger by the day. I can't even begin to think how many people use this site, many as guests, others as lurkers (if you're out there, Dominic, speak up!) and perhaps a minority as members.
It would be a miracle if all of those people found everyone else a wonderfully fluffy, huggable human being. This is a community, for Christ's sake, and it'll have its share of village idiots, half-wits fuckwits, bigots and the odd drunken bore who seems to have become part of the bar.
If any of them start to iritate you, just walk away and find a more congenial part of the cafe ('Spaw, of course, can have a letter from matron excusing him 'walk away duties' - he's big enough and decent enough to be able to defuse things face to face).
Yes, it takes courage to walk away in the face of an injury, but you'll be stronger for it - and it really pisses off the bullies of this world.
Anyway, how do you think passing trade would react if they looked through the window of the Mudcat Cafe and saw nothing but fights going on. (Shit, that cappucino just missed my head - cut it out!)
Sorry about the ran t. Please speak after the high moral tone.

This is a nice place - don't fuck it up. And if anyone wants to make something of it, I'll see them outside.... :-)
gervase@pre-emption.com


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