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A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... (guitar)
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: bill\sables Date: 20 Jul 00 - 04:17 PM Moonchild, I know and have played you Gibson, You'll never get anything like it and you'll always regret selling it, So DONT!!!!! Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Mbo Date: 20 Jul 00 - 04:16 PM Aha, Bert, another Yamaha user? Cool! Nothing like my Yamaha EF-10 with Martin Silk & Steel strings! Greatest sound ever! --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Bert Date: 20 Jul 00 - 04:13 PM I suggested flat wound as they would certainly reduce the brightness of any guitar. Perhaps way too much. And reading these replies again, would one conclude that Mudcatters are excessively prone to sentimentality? Bert. (Who's glad his old Yamaha ain't worth doodly sqat as a trade in) |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Kim C Date: 20 Jul 00 - 04:08 PM Keep it and believe the Powers of the Universe for a solution to your conundrum. |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Fortunato Date: 20 Jul 00 - 04:04 PM Moonchild,
Much as I hate debt, I would take out a loan and sacrifice to pay for the new guitar I wanted badly instead of selling my Gibson.
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Wesley S Date: 20 Jul 00 - 04:00 PM Moonchild - Let me add my voice to the throng. DON'T SELL IT. Put this on human terms. Would you get rid of the friend you described in your post just because you wanted to add a new friend to your life?? I don't think so. You might consider looking at your day to day budget. Maybe you can give up cable TV, or imported coffee, or the daily paper ect until you can afford both of your friends. You will never regret keeping your Gibson. But you'll never be able to replace her if you sell her. Trust all of us on that. |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Willie-O Date: 20 Jul 00 - 04:00 PM well, yeah, do try the suggested changes first. You will know for sure then what you should do. And payment plans are not a bad idea... W-O |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:59 PM Well Bert, I wasn't thinking FLAT WOUND but in truth, I knew a guy in college with a B-25 who did try a set of flatwound electrics and they were....well, let's just say interesting. Actually I was thinking more along the lines of vintage/solid bronze first and then maybe trying some silk and steel.....In any case, I think you're seeing a pattern here aren't you moon? AND BERT.....naw, fergit it........too easy. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: little john cameron Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:48 PM moonchild, they are all right don't sell it . Altho' it don't play much anymore i will never get another Gibby that sounds half as good as the one i have. 1966 sunburst jumbo. TRY he string thing. it will work ljc |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Mooh Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:48 PM I'll add my voice to Rawhide's and Spaw's, good advice all around. Don't sell it. I sold my old Gibson and lived to regret it. Modifying strings gauges (go up in gauge and down in pitch), nut and saddle materials (bone?), string pins (try ebony or brass), set up tolerances, tuning machines, may help. Keep it and buy a second via a payment plan, or borrow etc...Good luck! Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Willie-O Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:46 PM Your friends are all offering you wise counsel, I'm sure...but I know where you're coming from. Sometimes you have to let go of material things you've become attached to, no matter how much sentiment and memory is involved. As long as you are doing it with a clearheaded understanding of what you're about, and know it will help you make progress in your life. I'm having similar feelings about my Martin. Don't know if I'm in a position to maintain and feed two fine guitars, and if I dealt it out (and its worth what Fielding claims it is) I could get a cheaper second guitar and a bunch of other stuff I need to outfit myself properly for gigging. And people tell me DONT DO IT, but I'm the one who has to decide. But if possible, you should get another guitar that you're happy with FIRST. Because happy coincidences (which is about the only way you can get a really nice guitar without a bank loan) don't come along every day. This is not a time for workin wit-out a net. Don't do anything rash, and don't take less than top dollar unless there is a good sound ethical reason for it...but follow your heart. Best
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: GUEST,JMike Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:44 PM I have to agree with the nay-sayers here - I won't give all the details (it's a long story), but I traded a friend, soulmate, and occasional antagonist (where is that buzz, and why does it only happen when I'm just about to think that it's gone?) for a technically superior, richer toned, all round better instrument. After a couple of days I went back. Due to good luck Hypatia was still there (BTW, if your guitar has a name it's a good sign that you shouldn't trade it.) Due to a truly noble and kind dealer, it didn't cost anything to undo the deal, but even if I had lost money I would have brought her home. New strings *can* make a huge difference. I am currently trying my first set of Elixir's. They have added a richness that memory (or maybe wishful thinking) tells me is comparable to the other woman I almost left my lover for.
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Sorcha Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:35 PM I know just how you feel, Jenny. I have a violin and a viola that I seldom play anymore, and should have new homes. However, I just can't bring myslef to sell them. It would be like selling my children. I might though, just might, give them away if just the right person came along, which hasn't happened yet. |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Bert Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:30 PM Spaw's right, have you tried different strings? Plug your ears to the screams of horror and try some flat wound electric strings. It would be worth going through several sets before losing your friend. Try some biased sets. And I was counting on being reincarnated as that Gibson and I would hate to come back and find myself tucked up under the bosom of someone like Bill D, or Big Mick or heaven forbid 'Spaw! Bert. |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Jul 00 - 03:19 PM Hi moon...and I'm glad to see you.....But let's hold on here a minute. I remember from past discussions that the B physically fits you well. Next, its a well aged instrument with a great tone, although not quite what suits you now....right? Third, it is, as you say, an old friend, sowething I appreciate. Finally, you're not eat up with dough. Am I still right here? Well........Before you make any move as you're suggesting, have you tried altering the tone by making a few changes? A good sounding guitar can also have different tonal qualities through changing to different composition and gauge strings, saddle and nut materials and cut, string height, etc. Maybe a try at those things first would be a wiser and happier solution. If it doesn't work, you know what the current set-up is and can go back to it before you sell it. I really think its worth some thought. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Dee45 Date: 20 Jul 00 - 02:43 PM I agree with the other comments here. DON'T SELL IT!!!! Many, many stores offer financing and monthly payments on instruments. Without this in place so many able musicians would never be able to afford good quality instruments to play. Take your time with this, and play as many different guitars as your spare time will permit. It is actually a fun process. Eventually you will discover that gem waiting for you, and at a price that if not outright affordable, will be something that you will be able to put a down payment on, and then make small easy monthly payments. When your financial situation improves, you can always go to the store and just pay it off. Keep this B-25. In light of the troubles you appear to be experiencing right now, selling the B-25 is a rash decision and something you will most certainly regret. Best Wishes, RH |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 20 Jul 00 - 02:01 PM YA YA YA! NO NO NO!!!! Don't do it! If you get rid of that guitar yer gonna hate yerslef forever!! Keep it... Maybe some other mudcatter here can suggest where to get an affordable, good guitar to replace it with Like maybe a Seagul eh? [~` |
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Amergin Date: 20 Jul 00 - 02:00 PM It's too bad you can't just pass it on to a young friend (or something) that will appreciate it as much as you obviously do.... Amergin
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Subject: RE: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: Richard Bridge Date: 20 Jul 00 - 01:53 PM Don't do it. You won't find a new guitar with the rich midrange of an old one. Tizzy top, yes, thumping bass, yes, but the mellow midrange of a 60s instrument, no chance. My wife has a Hagstrom acoustic of that age and while it measures inferior when compared to a modern superacoustic, just sit back and soak up the sound and there's no reason for it. Keep the old one. |
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Subject: A Sad Goodbye To An Old Friend ... From: bbelle Date: 20 Jul 00 - 01:49 PM I am preparing to bid a say goodbye to an old and dear friend. She has been my closest companion since I was 16 years old. She has traveled with me from the deep south to the far north; from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean. She has been my friend, unconditionally, through thick and thin ... literally and figuratively. She has never asked "why" or said "maybe." She has outlasted the Viet Nam war, five engagements, and a myriad of boyfriends. She has never minded the spill of my tears and never insisted that I go back and close the door properly. She was born during the infamous "folk revival" of the '60's and has suffered through disco, heavy metal, and rap. She is a gentle soul ... just the thing for a sensitive, budding 16-year-old girl and a troubled 52-year-old. She has never demanded that I be any certain way ... just myself. My old and dear friend is my 1965 Gibson B-25. After much thought and soul-searching and tears, I have decided that the only way I can afford to buy a different guitar is to sell my Gibson. I wish that I could afford to keep her and still buy another, but it's not financially feasible for me to do that. Her sentimental value to me far outreaches any dollar amount, but sometimes one has to look beyond sentimentality. It's no secret that I've had some troubling times, of late, on several levels, but through the support of loving friends, I think I will find my way back. My goals are very simple ... get healthy and start performing again. I've realized for a while that to start performing I needed to change guitars. Men's voices change when they go from boys to men, but women's voices also change. Not when they go from girls to women and not so drastically (I think). It's more subtle and over time. So ... over time my voice has mellowed and deepened. My B-25 has a bright sound ... a wonderful bright sound that just rings ... but it doesn't match my voice anymore ... and while someone else may say they don't notice any difference ... I do ... and, therein lies the reason. I am very, very sad to be losing my old friend, but there are guitar players out there who will love her and take good care of her and give her the strokes she deserves. I don't want her to sit in a closet unplayed ... that would be such a shame. I don't know, yet, what my "new" guitar will be. I will be playing many different makes and models to find just the right "fit" for me. And I dearly hope that, in time, my new friend will prove just as loyal as my old friend. moonchild |
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