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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: dick greenhaus Date: 27 Jul 00 - 06:58 PM Click here to get to the discussion of Dick & Susan's inquiries before their trip to England, August 11-28. Maybe they can come back to this thread and give us a travelogue, eh?-Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: catspaw49 Date: 27 Jul 00 - 07:55 PM Well Bob Scwarer beat me to it on the other thread, but I'll ask it for him here............... Taking the Concorde?? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Morticia Date: 27 Jul 00 - 08:15 PM Be afraid........be very afraid *BG* |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: dick greenhaus Date: 27 Jul 00 - 08:34 PM I guess Susan and I ought to talk to each other. The only reason for this thread is that Susan thought that tho other thread (English Mudcatters Attention!) might be passed over by some people who might like to meet us. Y'all can post responses to the other thread mentioned above--that way we'll cut down a wee bit on thread proliferation. (Joe--did I detect a touch of irritation in one of your posts?) No, we're not taking a Concorde. Remember the old saying, though: "The family that flies together...." Not irritated, Dick - just hopelessly confused....and now even YOU are confusing me! Three threads, and you haven't even left home yet. (grin) |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 27 Jul 00 - 08:35 PM Keep us all posted about where you are and what you're up to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Susan of DT Date: 27 Jul 00 - 08:52 PM Please post travel arrangement notes (offers?) to the other thread. I had just said, essentially, see other thread. Dick and I crossed wires on who was going to post the second thread. Sorry Joe and all. Click here to get to the discussion of Dick & Susan's inquiries before their trip to England, August 11-28. Maybe they can come back to this thread and give us a travelogue, eh?-Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 28 Jul 00 - 12:29 AM Well, be a bit nervous anyway. And bring yer wellies - this is England in August here....... Look forward to meeting you. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Sorcha Date: 28 Jul 00 - 02:10 AM Joe is only irritated about my abc/html.(*SG*) Go on to England and have a GOOD time. Sell lots of stuff and come back re-freshed. And, as Morty says, Be afraid. Of what I don't exactly know, unless it is the Funny Uncle...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Micca Date: 28 Jul 00 - 06:51 AM Sorcha, the F in LFU stands for FAT (before the hospital helped me lose a lot of weight ) not FUNNY, altho' now you mention it........ any way we are looking forward to meeting you guys very much,and Towersey will be a blast... |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: dick greenhaus Date: 28 Jul 00 - 11:01 AM While I'm thinking of it---can anyone tell me what electrical service is provided in England and Wales? Volts? Cycles (or Hertz)? Trying to keep my computer battery charged.
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Gervase Date: 28 Jul 00 - 11:12 AM It's 240 volt, 50htz - you may need a transformer unless you're travelling with a Mac, which seems to tolerate any voltage the world can throw at it. Don't forget that the plugs are different - you'll need to get hold of a couple of adaptors to convert two-pin US-style plugs into three-pin British bricks. Phone connectors, too - in the US you use an RJ11 that goes straight in the socket; here in the UK we have a wider plug (you should be able to pick one up at the airport - if not I've got loads, so I'll let you have one at the Black Lion on the Saturday. |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: GUEST Date: 28 Jul 00 - 01:43 PM refresh. Just trying to keep this visible |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Micca Date: 28 Jul 00 - 01:56 PM Well, the good news is the Black Lion doesn't mind us playing music, so long as it is fairly acoustic and un-amplified, YEAH for the BL, anyone need directions? turn left out of Plaistow Underground station and it is about 100 yards down on the opposite side of the Street , we will be in the bar that has its entrance just to the right of the arch through to the yard.The Pub has parking too for customers off Plaistow High st |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Micca Date: 28 Jul 00 - 02:05 PM REad "turn RIGHT out of Plaistow Station." |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 29 Jul 00 - 05:07 AM The only one who needs directions here mate, is YOU!! I will write left and right on your feet next time I see you!!! Gervase - twice in a pub in 2 weeks with me - people will start talking!! Do you need a kip space? We have nicely painted room available. That goes for anyone else who might need room..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Micca Date: 29 Jul 00 - 08:14 AM This is from the person who took us back to East London from Hastings via Staines!!!!!and who has to be directed by this side or your side instead of Left and Right to avoid confusion.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: GUEST,dick greenhaus Date: 29 Jul 00 - 03:50 PM Is it really that confusing? Should we just stay hime? |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Lanfranc Date: 29 Jul 00 - 07:27 PM Dick We drive on the left, which to you will be strange. We also drive very close together in smaller cars than you are used to. Our freeways are called motorways, and nobody observes the speed limit (70mph) unless there's a police car or a speed camera in the vicinity. Oh, and some people can't tell left from right. Our road signage is variable and sometimes (south of the Thames) virtually non-existent. But you mustn't stay home - we're looking forward to seeing you and will try to protect you from harm. If all else fails, close your eyes while travelling - but preferably not when you are driving! |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Abby Sale Date: 30 Jul 00 - 10:01 AM D & S: Be of brave heart, friends. Driving is no problem once you get used to it. Takes 3 or 4 months but it's easy. Just watch out for right turns (seriously). They're odd but the rest is like driving on a one-way street in real countries. Then one day you'll come down here to St. Thomas which has been USian for many, may decades, was never British, but they drive on the left. Tiny, hilly, twisty roads. Reminds of of Scottish (I can never remember which one gets one & which two t's) highlands. No one on the island knows why they drive on the left. You'll enjoy Hingalend. It's only a small place & if you get lost, just keep driving - you'll sooner or later get to water. Just follow that around to the place you want. The natives are generally friendly and many sing quaint native songs. The water's quite safe to drink, no need to worry about it. But I'd strictly avoid the food. Look for the Scottish quality restaurants called "MacDonalds." |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 30 Jul 00 - 07:40 PM You can't stay home now, I've had a bath especially!! I even hosed down the bratling...... Watch out for Roundabouts... give way to the traffic coming at you from the right hand side (that's the side where the steering wheel has suddenly moved to) and be brave. You are allowed to give the traditional salutes when you are beeped at from behind at these junctions. If you must drive with your eyes shut, roundabouts are good places to start. Make sure the person who navigates can a) read a map and b) stay awake for longer than 20 mins in the car. LTS I drive with my eyes shut all the time, which is WHY we ended up at Staines - he was no good - he was asleep!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: dick greenhaus Date: 01 Aug 00 - 11:26 AM Just wondering- Do flashlight batteries come in the same sizes in the UK as in the US? AA and C cells, in particular |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Gervase Date: 01 Aug 00 - 01:23 PM No problem - we all talk the same language on batteries. As for vegetables - now that's a different matter... |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 01 Aug 00 - 06:02 PM Don't go near the swedes if you don't like rutabagas.... And a squash is usually a watery fruit drink, not a relative of the pumpkin. Sprouts are lovely - you must try some, they are a local delicacy..... Under no circumstances eat vegetables in wholefood restaurants, they are usually crisp and full of flavour, you will not recognise them as vegetables. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 02 Aug 00 - 05:00 AM Some other British delicacies to try: Faggots (meatballs made from pig offal) Brawn (pate made from pig head and offal) Haggis (large boiling sausage made from sheep offal) Tripe (cow offal) Steak and Kidney Pie (more cow offal) Laverbread (boiled seaweed, eaten with pig offal) Big Mac (offal in a bun) :-> |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 02 Aug 00 - 06:07 AM Sh'mai, Dai, that's an offal lot to eat in a short visit! Iechyd da RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Abby Sale Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:00 AM Dai: You slander haggis. The same insides but placed is a regular sausage casing and fried or baked is very tasty. I am still remembered (and with pleasure, not rancour) for my brilliant cuisinatory invention of "spaghetti with haggis sauce." But I doubt D & S will find haggis pudding in England. Unless they happen on an honest Scottish chip shop. No, over all I still think they'd be better off bringing their food with them.
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:28 AM It's much easier to get haggis in England than it used to be; any good deli, and even some supermarkets...and, yes, baked rather than boiled! Malcolm |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 02 Aug 00 - 11:45 AM Sainsbury's own brand is excellent, I highly recommend it. I'm actually very fond of all those tubes and glands that have passed out of epicurean favour of late... |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: The Shambles Date: 02 Aug 00 - 03:46 PM I think it would be fair to say all supermarkets stock haggis now. They do seem to come from animals that have plastic bladders though? |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: dick greenhaus Date: 02 Aug 00 - 04:44 PM I've tried spotted dick, toad in the hole, haggis and bangers. I suspect I'll draw the line at mushy peas.
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Aug 00 - 09:52 PM Mushy peas - don't knock them till you've tried them. As Sir Thomas Beecham said, you should try everything once in this life, except incest and Morris dancing. And I'm sure you'd disagree with him about the Morris dancing.
No one has mentioned Cornish Pasties...If you aren't too worried about Mad Cow Disease......... Anyway, try to make it to the Half Moon in Bishop's Stortford, Herts, on Sunday 13th, and you should have an enjoyable evening.
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Noreen Date: 02 Aug 00 - 10:08 PM MMmmmmmmmm- mushy peas....... Up t'road from here in Ramsbottom they do pea fritters.......... Noreen |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 03 Aug 00 - 12:50 AM EEEEEE, pea fritters, haven't had them since I moved out of Dorset - that's about as far south as you can get apart from Cornwall..... They looked like tennis balls covered in breadcrumbs until you bit into them and they were lovely and juicy and and and...... LTS slavering and drooling and wanting a big pea fritter.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 03 Aug 00 - 03:35 AM Now then. Boiled bacon, Pease pudding. hurrr hurrr hurrr. |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Noreen Date: 03 Aug 00 - 05:55 AM Sorry about the thread creep....... Liz, you're welcome to join me on a trip up t'valley in search of the elusive pea fritter anytime! I thought it was a local delicacy (along with black peas /black pudding) as I've never seen them anywhere else. Here is a virtual pea fritter for you! :0) Noreen |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Catrin Date: 03 Aug 00 - 06:00 AM Dick, you may have tried bangers, but have you tried my local butchers 'pork and leek' bangers? yum yum, especially for Saturday morning hangover. Catrin |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: GUEST,Lorraine Date: 03 Aug 00 - 07:05 AM Have a wonderful time!!!I wish I could fit in your suitcase. We were there last year (and Ireland and Wales ) no time, little music (we weren't really looking) wonderful people and countries. Have fun and see you at the Getaway-Lorraine |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Abby Sale Date: 03 Aug 00 - 10:18 AM Dick: As a friend and onetime denizen of the uk, I urge you to accept your first judgement - stay very far away from the peas. Steer at least a three-foot passage from first sight of them. Certainly do not allow them to touch anything with which your body will come in contact. Cornish pasties are a different thing, though. I believe they are the absolute acme of British culinary art. Especially on a cold day when you need something warming the inside of your stomach that will stay there a few hours. A fine comforting lump. FYI, the mysteriously sung "oggie" is mearly a kind of Cornish pasty. Whoa - to my amazement (I was going to cite) the song isn't in the Database, only a reference to it in filename[ CYRILALL. I'm back home now. Trips are good for you, it seems; but tiring. |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 Aug 00 - 01:23 PM "Mushy Peas" could just be the moral equivalent to "Right to bear arms" threads we've been looking for...
I'm surprised noone's mentioned Jellied Eels yet! There's still a few Eel and Mash restaurants around.
And Whelks - people think it's just the French who eat snails, when it's just that the Londoners have preferred the marine variety.
(But if you get to the Half Moon, it's only cheese and similar sandwiches handed round by the bar staff, nothing exotic and ethnic.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 03 Aug 00 - 04:23 PM If you stay with Micca, get him to take you to the Pie and Mash shop in Green Street - where SO took me on our first date (I should have learned then and run......!); a famous East End delicacy - the pies are anonymous, the mash is plentiful and the liquor is not at all how Americans expect it! And it can be anything from a pale pastel to a virulent grassy shade of green..... Mmmmmmmm yum yum yummmm... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Susan of DT Date: 09 Aug 00 - 10:01 PM We are off in the morning. We will post to this thread from various mudcatters machines. |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: dick greenhaus Date: 09 Aug 00 - 10:56 PM Abby- Oggie man isn't in the DT; OGGY Man is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Micca Date: 10 Aug 00 - 04:55 AM I put this in the other thread but will copy it here in case anyone missed it. "This is to simply refresh and to remind any one within reach and who feels like coming along we will be in the small bar (door to the imediate right of the arch) of the Black Lion in Plaistow High St London E13 on Saturday from 8 ish onwards,If you need directions PM me.( the beer is good, Courage Directors and guest beers, usually), and we would be delighted to meet and greet any 'catters who wish to show up to welcome Dick and Susan." |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Lox Date: 10 Aug 00 - 08:21 AM If you're feeling particularly masochistic, My ex-local chip shop fries Mars Bars in batter. Battered Mars Bar anyone? PS. If you're in Manchester on the 12th, Come to O'Sheas pub to see the "sisters of murphy". Not strictly folk music, but certainly inspired by it, and plenty of Irish trad songs. (Hmmm what could he mean) - Alternatively, careys in coventry on the 19th. (However, I would never mention Coventry to a tourist without first giving them a health warning. Spending any amount of time in coventry is analagous to staring at a cardboard box for want of a TV)(I imagine that folks from coventry could be entertained in this way for weeks on end) |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Gervase Date: 10 Aug 00 - 10:32 AM Coventry eh? That's one of those places where people still point at aeroplanes. (Sorry, probably in poor taste, seeing as what aeroplanes did to Coventry half a century back...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 10 Aug 00 - 06:24 PM Coventry is where practically every bicycle in England was made up until about 1950...... Mine of useless information aren't I?! LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Tone d' F Date: 10 Aug 00 - 06:30 PM That was Raliegh interesting ...honest |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 10 Aug 00 - 06:32 PM Oh, I thank you, Raghliegh I do.... (to be said in the voice of that actress who was considered dead sexy in the 1950's and who Gregory Peck always (allegedly) referred to as Joodieh, Joodieh, Joodieh.... bugger, must stop losing brain cells to beer..... LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Tone d' F Date: 10 Aug 00 - 06:38 PM erm... I think that might have been Cary Grant so who's sad now, pass the mead throw another christian to the cat |
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Subject: RE: BS: dick & Susan face England unafraid! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 10 Aug 00 - 06:51 PM What, the woman? LTS |