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Where is Clohinne ?

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Subject: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Nynia
Date: 29 Jul 00 - 09:20 PM

In last nights Hear Me someone mentioned how much they liked the Niamh Parsons song Clohinne Winds. Noreen asked me if I knew where it was in Ireland. Needless to say I didn't. I know the song was written by Briege Murphy and mentions Clohinne Winds and Clohinne Hills. So far I have not been able to trace Clohinne although I was able to trace a Clougheen which is between Clonmel and Mitchelstown in Co.Tipperary. It is situated between the Galtee mountains and the Knockmealdown mountains, so the hilly bit is there. Could Clohinne be a typo for Clougheen or has anyone any better information.
"Clohinne Winds" lyrics here (click).


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Noreen
Date: 29 Jul 00 - 10:56 PM

Just listen to this: Niamh Parsons singing Clohinne Winds (click on the title). She can sing!

Noreen


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Mbo
Date: 29 Jul 00 - 11:11 PM

That was me who was talking about "Clohinne Winds", Nynia. Still haven't found where it exactly is yet. But, awesome song, ain't it?

--Matt


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Noreen
Date: 29 Jul 00 - 11:21 PM

Yes, thanks for that, Mbo, and I really love Niamh Parsons' voice. Thanx for the thread too, Nynia.

Noreen
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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Fiolar
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:14 AM

Could possibly be "Clogheen" (pronounced Clo Heen). There's a "Clogheen" in County Tipperary and also one in County Waterford. Take your pick. Mike


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Nynia
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:41 AM

Thanks Matt I thought it was you but couldn't be sure. She certainly has a great voice, her latest album "Blacbirds & Thrushes" has gone back to being a little less ornamental and perhaps a little more straight trad. Thanks Fiolar on re-checking the map I find my spelling to be wrong, I don't know where the extra "U" came from, and I never knew about the Waterford Clogheen.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,bigJ
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 06:58 AM

Re. Niamh's latest album - watch out for 'In My Prime' Green Linnet GLCD 1203 - just released!


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Nynia
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 07:08 AM

Thanks bigJ i've not seen it yet, i'll check out Claddagh Records on Monday.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: John Moulden
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 07:45 PM

Clohinne is a townland in the Mullaghbawn/Forkhill area of South Armagh, where Briege Murphy comes from. However, the Ordnance Survey maps do not mention it as spelled in the song (a perennial problem) - I think it may be given as Cloughinny.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Nynia
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 07:48 PM

John, that's fantastic. Thanks for letting us know.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Noreen
Date: 30 Jul 00 - 07:53 PM

Thank you John- just what was needed.

Noreen


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: John Moulden
Date: 31 Jul 00 - 05:51 AM

One last word; Briege Murphy gives the title of the song as "Cloghinne Winds" and I know that some of her family actually lives in the townland of Cloghinny (as the maps have it) so further conjecture seems unnecessary!

No thanks are necessary.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Leif902
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 03:28 PM

I've been trying to figure out where this came from... Briege Murphy's got a great voice and I love the song... I had assumed it was a geographical location somwhere in Norse Mythology but I guess I'm wrong!... Okay now I'll probably never visit this site again so bye bye.

P.S. Buy Celtic Traditions: Memorable Tales and Celtic Mysteries: Tales of Celtic Tradition... but don't buy Celtic Voyager: Tales of the Traveler... they are all from the Celtic Tales Collection and the first two are some of the best CD's I own... the third one is terrible though.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,BUBBA
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:48 PM

THERE IS A PLCAE JUST OFF THE LONGFIELD ROAD CALLED CLOHINNE BUT WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IT WAS PRONOUNCED AS CLOCK-HIN-YA THE LONGFIELD ROAD BEING THE MAIN ROAD THAT RUNS FROM FORKHILL DOWN TO THE MAIN NEWRY ROAD AROUND LISLEA WHICH IS LOCATED IN SOUTH ARMAGH NORTHERN IRELAND FROM WHAT I REMBER IT WAS A PLACE WHERE THERE WERE MASSIVE FALLEN ROCKS BUT IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO GO FOR WALKS JUST AT THE FOOT OF SLIEVE GULLION BY THE WAY IS A AWESOME AREA TO VISIT


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,mac coilin
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 12:53 AM

Clohinne winds means "fairy winds" (from the Gaelic). It is not a place at all, but indicates that the lover who seduces and abandons her is of the Tuatha De Danaan, or fairy folk.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 03:15 AM

On a visit to Southern Ireland, I stayed in a place just by Cork which was called Clogheen and ran across a couple of other places with the same name... is this related with perhaps difference of spelling?
Best wishes, Mike.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Patrick McAnaney
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 12:44 PM

Cloghinne near Lislea in S. Armagh is a fantastic place. Go walking around some of those ancient rock formations and you'll want to write ghostly romantic songs too!


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Briege Murphy, Author /comp[oser
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 02:23 PM

Hi,
Just came across this forum,so I thought I'd put it finally right...:
Cloghinne is a townland in the low foothills of Slieve Gullion mountain, between the Longfield Road, Forkhill and the main Newry road at Dromintee. The spelling "Cloghinny" is totally wrong , I can't guarantee the correct spelling is my way...It is indeed a beautiful place ,and there is no particular legend behind the song, only my own fascination with the place, and the fairy tree.
Briege ,


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: michaelr
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 11:57 PM

Thank you Briege! It's a lovely song.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Just a Girl learning Irish dancing
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 12:58 PM

Thank you Guest mac coilin..... I had a feeling that Cloghinne was not a place, but perhaps suggested a type of wind related to the world of death, or dreams. Your answer helped me so much, and totally makes sense in relation to the lyrics of the song. Thank you so much.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: michaelr
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 02:41 PM

Another example of selective thread reading: Guest, Just a Girl prefers another guest's airy-fairy imaginations to the nuts-and-bolts explanation of the song's author.

Whaddaya gonna do...


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 05:40 PM

> Another example of selective thread reading: Guest, Just a Girl prefers another guest's airy-fairy imaginations to the nuts-and-bolts explanation of the song's author.

Sadly, most humans believe what they want to believe, regardless of evidence.

> Whaddaya gonna do...

Perhaps just crawl into the corner and gibber.

Richard


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Asya
Date: 03 Mar 12 - 01:48 AM

Oh, thanks a lot for information )))))) I do love Niamh Parsons' songs and wished to know what does "clohinne" mean. one day I'll travel to there (I hope).


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Briege Murphy
Date: 09 Sep 12 - 03:17 AM

To Richard-I like your sense of humour..
Sorry about bursting the bubble of "airy -fairyness", but I do believe in fairies ,and have had a fascination with their existence since I was a child. In fact , I think they helped me write the song....
I also know many people who have heard the Bean si (banshee) cry , just before someone died, so I am not as "nuts and bolts " as you suggest...
"nuts " maybe...B.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Noreen
Date: 09 Sep 12 - 08:16 PM

Hello Briege, good to see you here.

Thank you for your song, I still love it, twelve years after I prompted the start of this thread :)


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,violet101b4!
Date: 04 Jul 15 - 01:25 PM

Clohinne is a place in your mind , heart , and soul not just about faery winds it magick. The pictures in the video are from all over in ireland i think not just one specific place. don't quote me on the pictures. Thats why this song you close your eyes and your there.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Thompson
Date: 05 Jul 15 - 08:30 AM

Was wondering! Couldn't think of any possible derivation that would make "Clohinne" mean "fairy wind" in Irish!


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 15 - 12:41 PM

Beautiful isn't it!! :). Captures the essence ireland , beauty ,love , sorrow, freedom , life , loss , magick


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Maureen
Date: 27 Dec 15 - 07:04 AM

Love her work and voice, think Cloghinne is neither here, nor there... but that mystical-mythical place. the invisible half-bridge between two worlds... if interested as an outsider poet, maureenscanlon-poetry.com, you could visit this site, with a forewarning it may be a bit too bold for some, yet very real...I've spoken to Niamh Parsons about turning "Caoin", a Poem-Ballad. Honoring all the women of Ireland, into a Song-ballad . Written more through than by me, while travelling around Ireland....


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Annwyn
Date: 17 Aug 17 - 07:35 PM

Found this thread while looking up info on this song. I have an alt theory that it is about the Faery Queen Clíodhna. She is considered a banshee, which is why the song mentions the banshee and the fairy hill and hawthorn tree. Hawthorn has long been associated with a place to meet the faery queen. Not sure if it is accurate though.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,Henry Piper of Ottery
Date: 18 Aug 17 - 04:28 AM

For goodness sake Annwyn RE READ THE WHOLE POST !! The author of the song explains exactly what it means and what it doesn't mean !!!


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: GUEST,George Winter
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 02:39 AM

The internet is a marvelous place, chock-a-block full of information.

All you need to do is a little research.

A visit to https://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=cloghinny&str=on will tell you there are two townlands called Cloghinny, both quite close to Slieve Gullion. If you search for Clohinne on the same website it will point you to Cloghinny as the nearest modern (official?) spelling.

Spelling can be a bit fluid in Ireland, I think. Google Earth has Forkhill, but the Ordnance Survey map has Forkill and an 1861 census listing I chanced across seemed to be saying Furkill (but the scan was admittedly a bit blurry.)

Google Earth also shows a Cloghinny Road near the southern end of the mountain.


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Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ?
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 16 Jan 18 - 04:11 AM

Quite close to Bohenny, I imagine....


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