Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: PoppaGator Date: 12 Apr 06 - 12:21 AM The jug, in truly capable hands, serves as a bass (actually a sort of bass-horn or tuba, i.e., a low-register wind instrument), not a percussion instrument. The washtub bass or "gutbucket," a (one-)stringed instrument, is also a venerable jug-band instrument. Generally, one or the other of these homemade-type bass instruments is used on a given number, not both. Of course, in the hands of less capable players, both of these bass instruments are often played in an atonal fashion, in which case they provide only rhythm, not a discernably melodic bass line. The undisputed master of both the jug and the tub was the recently-deceased Fritz Richmond. He came to prominence in the 60s as a member of Jim Kweskin's Jug Band, and much more recently was a key member, along with John Sebastian, of The J-Band. In addition to his considerable musical accomplishments, Fritz was the first to wear tinted "granny-glasses" on stage, predating the "look" popularized by John Lennon by about a half-decade. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Amos Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:41 PM Named after the use of a moonshine jug (or similar) as a sort of rhythm instrument. A |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Steve-o Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:33 PM Just go to John Sebastian's website and you will hear and learn all about Jug Band Music. John is helping keep this fun music alive in the world. He really "got his start" way back in the sixties in the Even Dozen Jug Band, which included many greats like David Grisman and Maria (D'Amato) Muldaur. A number of the songs the LSpoonful did were just "electrified" jug band songs, due to John's love for this music. BTW, you are right about his great talent with melody and lyrics- a terrific songwriter. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:29 PM www.jugband.org Try this. I get lots of help from this bunch. Great folk. Easy to get along woth. Answer any Kweskin. Sorry about the pun Don |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,DonMeixner Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:24 PM ....and The J-Band, Jim Kweskin, The Even Dozen Jug Band. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Wesley S Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:18 PM Also google Gus Cannon, "Cannon's Jug Stompers" and the "Memphis Jug Band". A type of blues and ragtime music that uses guitars, banjos, mandolins, jugs,washtub bass, kazoos, harmonicas ect. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: RichM Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:31 AM google "jug band" |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,Penguin Egg Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:23 AM What is Jug Music and can anyone recommend a CD? I forgot to put my name on the last posting. Many apologies. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST Date: 11 Apr 06 - 10:21 AM 6 years after the last posting and so I thought I would bring it back from the dead. The reason? I have just discovered them and think that they are truly wonderful. Wonderful songs with deceptively simple lyrics and catchy tunes that only a true pop genius like John Sebastian could come up with. Also a good singer and fine harmonica player. I rate him as high as Ray Davis, Brian Wilson, Lennon & McCartney, and Pete Townsend. I bought a greatest hits CD for Linving in the City and ended up loving the whole CD. I am now hunting down their entire backlog. My only question: What is Jug Music? |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: DonMeixner Date: 02 Aug 00 - 10:10 PM Darlin Companion is on the "Hums of the Lovin Spoonful" album I believe. Don |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Lonesome EJ Date: 02 Aug 00 - 09:13 PM Sebastian said about Nashville Cats that he was disappointed that some people thought it was a put down of country music, because he and the rest of the band felt like they were amateurs compared to the session musicians in Nashville, who were the subject of the song. He also said nobody in the band could actually play steel guitar, but Zal was able to fake the sound at the end of the song by using a slide. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: mactheturk Date: 02 Aug 00 - 07:52 AM Nashville Cats play clean as country water... Nashville Cats play wild as mountain dew..ew.. Nashville Cats been playin' since they're babies Nashville Cats get work before they're two aw, pick it.. ... .. .... ...... ... ....... .. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,Mark Cohen Date: 02 Aug 00 - 02:40 AM Remember: Sebastian and Zal formed the Spoonful Michelle, John and Denny gettin' kinda tuneful Didn't I post something about John Sebastian in another thread recently? And didn't Mbo think I was talking about J.S. Bach? Or is my ginkgo deficiency acting up again? Yes, that was, and still is, magical music. Spaw, I was pretty unhappy in those days, always wishing what happened to mactheturk (good for you, mac) would happen to me, but I just reach back to the fun they were having then and enjoy it now. Aloha, Mark (still waiting for this premie to be born) |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,RAH Date: 02 Aug 00 - 02:06 AM bald headed lena has anybody seen her cute as she can be she has a cue ball head that's hard as lead but she's alright with me. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: mactheturk Date: 01 Aug 00 - 07:35 AM Well, there's 19,821 mothers in Nashville all the folks play music and they're ain't uptight if one of the kids will
and it's custom made for every mother's son |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 01 Aug 00 - 05:24 AM ...and let's not forget the band, like the Rolling Stones,the Hoochie Coochie Men and other bands of the '60s, took their names from good old blues numbers. Love Howlin' Wolf doing "Spoonful". RtS |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Sorcha Date: 01 Aug 00 - 02:45 AM I'm sorry, I was so stoned I don't remember a (blank blank) thing.............. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,Hutzul Date: 01 Aug 00 - 02:31 AM I never knew "Darlin' Companion" was a Spoonful tune. Where did they record it? I've only heard it by Johnny Cash and June Carter. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: mactheturk Date: 01 Aug 00 - 12:20 AM Trish and I first met in the summer of 67'. It was a special time for all of us. After 33 years together we still love those songs. like this one..... She's a lady and I chanced to meet her in my skufflin' days she's a lady hypnotized me there that day I came to play in my usual way..... happy to say she still is mine......
Mac |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: DonMeixner Date: 01 Aug 00 - 12:14 AM John Sebastian and the J Band are doing JugBand stuff very similar to the Even Dozen jug band. The CD I have has Geof Muldaur and Fritz Richmond on it as well as the late Yank Rachell among others. A fine bit of stuff. Sebastian sound like his old self with a slight cold. He looks about the same too. Definately a CD for the Jug Band literati among us. Don |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: bbelle Date: 31 Jul 00 - 11:10 PM No ... just when I'm feelin' frisky moonchild |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Jul 00 - 11:03 PM So now I rate the bbb tag? Another sign of getting old or what? Spaw |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: bbelle Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:57 PM 'cause it makes ya feel old, catspaw51 backwoods birkenstock bitch |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:36 PM Why does this thread continue to depress the livin' hell out of me? Spaw |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Lonesome EJ Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:20 PM Hooray for John, world's only rocknroll Lead Zither. Damn fine harmonica player too(like Father,like son). Sebastian would be singin "I remember her eyes, soft warm and brown" with his eyes closed and that blissful grin so that you knew he did remember. All the sad business with Zal and the drug bust. John in his Nudie Suit with the marijuana leaves on the lapels being interviewed by Dick Cavett.Say, I heard he had a new band together, mainly jug-band stuff? NRBQ and Joey Scampinato are devoted to that Spoonful sound,still. The Spoonies always bring one of those Sebastian grins to my face
I was surfin in the ocean greasin' sun tan lotion John.Steve.Joe.Zal. Wherever you guys are...what a treat it was. Ya didn't have to be so nice.... LEJ |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: mactheturk Date: 31 Jul 00 - 09:28 PM an even if time ain't really on my side it's one of those days for takin' a walk outside I'm blowin' the day to take a walk in the sun an fall on my face on somebodys' new mowed lawn
remember those days????? Mac |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,Barry Finn Date: 31 Jul 00 - 05:32 PM They played Woodstock? What a shame, I was there too & they were probably as aware of me as I was of them. Barry |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: annamill Date: 31 Jul 00 - 02:04 PM Do I remember The Night Owl??? YES! I used to live with Joey Marra, the owner. He and I are still very close friends. I worked there with him in the sixties and we started seeing each other. I had lunch with him just the other day. He gave me a jacket with the Night Owl logo designed by Keith Hornig. It's beautiful. John and I were friends but I'm afraid I don't remember the others. John did a solo when I was there. Beautiful gentle man. I hope he hasn't changed. That was a really good time. ..and yes, Honey knows we're still friends and that we have lunch now and then. LOve, annap |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Whistle Stop Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:33 PM Jed, it was probably '72 or '73 that I saw John Sebastian at Babson (Knight Auditorium). I grew up right down the street. Great show, with a lot of the Spoonful stuff in the sets (Do You Believe In Magic was the encore). |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:20 PM Potter, See related thread: "Lyr. Req: Jug band music"........ Lots of Kweskin conversation. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Jed at Work Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:58 AM well, moonchild - there's always next time yer out for the NTIF. We can sing it together! Whistle Stop what on earth were yuo doin' at Babson in 1970? That was the year I married the daughter of Babson VP Everett Stephens! |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,Potter Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:55 AM A John Sebastion thread without mention of the Kweskin Jugband? Here's a game to play. Name two pop/rock acts and a recording combo that got together a John Sebastion's house. I remeber one morning as a kid, awakened in the morning by the clock radio blaring Do You Believe In Magic--the most purely happy I've ever been!!! |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Downeast Bob Date: 31 Jul 00 - 10:26 AM Was it folk? Well, full of folk roots anyway. Remember, My cat Dragged in Through the door One fine morn' Ooooweee my dear Henry Dig the dog that cat dragged in! With five string banjo, Jew's harp, slide whistle and kazoo. The wonderful thing about these guys was their spirited, eclectic style. They were contemporaries of the early Grateful Dead and other early acid rock groups, but with East Coast roots. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Mbo Date: 31 Jul 00 - 09:46 AM Wow, Welcome Back Kotter TOO!? Man I love that song! (And the show!) These guys RULE! |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: mactheturk Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:50 AM I saw John Sebastian last year at a small venue and it was very nice. He and his group did a few Lovin' Spoonful tunes but mainly played new material or older jug band stuff. It was a fun night and we were reminded of his mojo on the harp.
He did start off with one of my favorites.....
Mac |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: bbelle Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:50 AM I had forgotten about the Welcome Back Kotter theme. I remember the first time I heard it ... it was unmistakably John Sebastian. moonchild |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Whistle Stop Date: 31 Jul 00 - 08:36 AM I think John Sebastian WAS the Spoonful, just as John Fogerty was Creedence -- nothing against the other guys, but he was the only one that was critical to their sound or their success. I was a little young to see the whole band in concert, but I saw John Sebastian (with a backing band) at Babson College in the early 70's. Great show, with all the positive energy the guy is known for. Someone mentioned Woodstock, which was both a great career boost for John Sebastian, and a huge embarrassment. By his own account he was pretty heavily medicated, which he figured was okay because he hadn't expected to be playing at that particular moment (schedule change when another performer wasn't ready to go on). Still a good performance, but his altered state was pretty apparent. Mbo, in addition to all the great Spoonful cuts, John Sebastian also wrote and performed the theme song from "Welcome Back Kotter". A true all-around entertainer. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Willie-O Date: 31 Jul 00 - 07:26 AM Their stuff has such great spirit and heart, it's part of the sixties repertoire that still sounds fresh and great and fun. Zal Yanovsky owns a restaurant in Kingston Ontario these days, the trendy but enjoyable Chez Piggy. (It's lasted a lot longer than the Spoonful did.) For reasons still unclear to me I once ordered and consumed a steak tartare there... Willie-O |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 31 Jul 00 - 07:10 AM I saw John Sebastian on the "Woodstock" film. I liked his music straight away, although I dont think he was on the planet when he performed there. I have theeir greatest hits on vinyl, but dont have anything to play it on - Shucks Patrish |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Peter Kasin Date: 31 Jul 00 - 01:59 AM Their songs were so tuneful and joyful, even my parents, hardly rockers or modern folkies, enjoyed listening to them. My mother could be heard whistling "Daydream" as she worked in the kitchen. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: bbelle Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:29 AM Don ... I just checked their website and they are. Just wouldn't be the same without Sebastian. moonchild |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: DonMeixner Date: 31 Jul 00 - 12:13 AM Was this stuff folk music? Much of it was based on real solid blues and bluesical pop tunes, Jug Band standards, and covers of other peoples stuff. My favorite bit of blues by The Spoonful was "Sportin' Life". The arrangement fit Johns voce very well and it is possibly the best showcase of his amazing harmonica ability except for "Blues for Dad and JB's Harmonica. "Amy's Theme" may be an exception as well. ( Some place I saw a video taped duet of John Sebastian and Paul Butterfield trying to out do the other, Wow.) "Let that Boy Rock and Roll" showed off Zal's guitar work. "Jug Band music", "My Gal", "Wild About My Lovin", and "Fishin' Blues" were all arrangements of the stuff John and Zal did in the Mugwumps and the Even Dozen Jug Band days. Joe Butler and Steve Boone often get left out but while there stuff was solid it was not exceptional. Joe Butler did have a voice that suited John's for vocal work. And Steve Boone wrote a couple great songs. "Darlin Companion" and "Butchie's Tune" . Butler carried the band name on with one album that wasn't awfull but it was miles away from The Goodtime Music they started with. Butler, Boone, and I think Yester are doing oldies shows as TL'S. Don
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Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: mactheturk Date: 30 Jul 00 - 10:58 PM Let's go for a jump on my trampoline I can show you the prettiest mountains you've ever seen so run to your closet and pull out your blue swede shoes I'll paint rainbows all over your blues magic.......... |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: bob jr Date: 30 Jul 00 - 09:49 PM i remeber one of them ratting out his drug dealer to avoid going to jail just cant remeber which guy it was cept i know its wasnt john sebastian ....i think i remeber him singing in the care bear movie but i could have been dreaming that one |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: bbelle Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:59 PM Geez, Jed ... wish I'd know that, whilst in Dallas! I wouldn't have let you off the stool without singing it. moonchild |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: JedMarum Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:45 PM I remember well. I still sing Darlin' Be Home Soon sometimes. It's a great song, many remember, and those who don't respond to, anyway. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,Barry Finn Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:14 PM Like the Spoonfull but loved John Sebastian. Saw the Spoonfull somewhere but can't remember where, could've been the same Newport Folk Fest, caught maybe the last 4 or 5 years of that fest. Sebastian (IMHO) was never better after the LS. I still have 3 of his LP's (gotta get a new needle for that turntable someday) & every so often find myself singing "Red Eye Express" or "You're A Big Boy Now" or "Rainbows All Over Your Blues". When the kids were little I used to sing to sleep sometimes to "How Have You Been". Yes, he was folk to me back then. Barry |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: GUEST,JMCM Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:10 PM Moonchild - I once heard Archie Fisher's singing described as being covered in molten chocholate/custard by a besoted female audience member. Mabye you should check out his recordings if this is to your taste. love, john. |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: bbelle Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:09 PM What a day for a daydream ... what a day for a daydreaming boy ... I'm lost in a daydream ... dreaming 'bout my bundle of joy. And, if time was really on my side .... moonchild |
Subject: RE: Lovin' Spoonful....again. From: Shanti Date: 30 Jul 00 - 08:06 PM The Spoonful was one of the first "crossover" bands. Their records were played on pop stations as well as at coffeehouses, at folk festivals and everywhere in between. You could say, if you really want to be boring about it, that they were electrified folkies. They had a sound all their own! |
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