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Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)

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GUEST,Dave 15 Feb 19 - 05:29 AM
Dave the Gnome 15 Feb 19 - 05:41 AM
GUEST,Ray 15 Feb 19 - 11:02 AM
GUEST,henryp 16 Feb 19 - 05:10 AM
Dave the Gnome 16 Feb 19 - 05:20 AM
Dave the Gnome 16 Feb 19 - 05:31 AM
GUEST,henryp 06 Mar 19 - 11:13 AM
Dave the Gnome 06 Mar 19 - 02:03 PM
GUEST,Bradfordian 27 Aug 19 - 11:40 AM
GUEST,Starship 27 Aug 19 - 12:04 PM
GUEST,Ray 27 Aug 19 - 12:18 PM
Dave the Gnome 28 Aug 19 - 12:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: GUEST,Dave
Date: 15 Feb 19 - 05:29 AM

D'you mean John?

As you probably know, there were at least 7 lists of casualties and the bulk of the info comes from the Appendix to the "Manchester Central Committee Appointed for the Relief of Sufferers Report" published in 1820.

You'll find a summary of every report on a person by person basis in "The Casualties of Peterloo" by Michael L Bush (Prof.) Carnegie 2005.

Any large bookshop should have a copy for you to sneak a peek at should you not wish to invest. My copy cost me 15 quid several years ago.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Feb 19 - 05:41 AM

Sorry, yes, it should have been John. And reinvesting should have been re-investigating. I blame poverty and old age :-)

Thanks for the info.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 15 Feb 19 - 11:02 AM

Dave, you’re welcome. Are you going to the Stockport Library talk on 28/6? There were 31 (free) tickets left yesterday PM.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 16 Feb 19 - 05:10 AM

Peterloo Descendants

"We know that in a number of towns Veterans of Peterloo met in the years after the massacre, but records from the time itself are limited in their nature and in what they reveal. So we are also fascinated to hear from anyone who believes they have a family link to Peterloo.”

Karen Shannon, Chief Executive of Manchester Histories, says, “Our approach to the 200th anniversary of the Peterloo Massacre is to connect and explore the threads of what happened then to the issues and world of today. Peterloo Descendants seems a fitting way to reflect upon the journey of democratic reform and the point that we are at 200 years later.”

If you think that your family had a presence in the events that unfolded on 16 August 1819 and would like to find out more about Peterloo Descendants and how you might get involved or follow the progress, please email Janine Hague (Project Manager for Peterloo 2019) with the details that you have available at Janine@manchesterhistories.co.uk.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Feb 19 - 05:20 AM

I was not thinking of going, Ray, but I'll ask the boss :-)

Talking of who, I have forwarded that link on to the Mrs, Henry. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Feb 19 - 05:31 AM

Out of interest and pure coincidence I am re-reading "Night Watch" by Terry Pratchett. The plot involves armed soldiers killing unarmed civilians during a protest. I didn't notice the similarities last time.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 06 Mar 19 - 11:13 AM

In today's episode (Wednesday) of 'Pubs that Built Britain', the Hairy Bikers visited Middleton and the Old Boar's Head, which claims the title of the oldest original public house in England.

Sam Bamford often frequented the Boar’s Head where he held meetings and recitations of his poems in local dialect. In his book ‘Early Days’ (1849) he writes of his father Daniel fighting at the Boar’s Head in the ‘Thrashing Room’ (Barn). The fight lasted two hours and ended with Daniel’s powerful opponent being carried away by his supporters.

And Jennifer Reid sang Peterloo; words by Harvey Kershaw, set to music by John Howarth.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 19 - 02:03 PM

Our mortgage was once with the Middleton building society. Their offices were right near the Boars Head. The only time I enjoyed doing mortgage stuff as we always called in the pub :-D


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Subject: With Henry Hunt We’ll Go (ref Peterloo)
From: GUEST,Bradfordian
Date: 27 Aug 19 - 11:40 AM

With Henry Hunt We’ll Go by Mary Humphries & Anahata
Recent recording


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: GUEST,Starship
Date: 27 Aug 19 - 12:04 PM

Some history of the poem by Kershaw. http://www.oldhamtinkers.com/peterloo.html


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 27 Aug 19 - 12:18 PM

John Howarth always used to refer to Harvey as a “derelict” poet and, when he was awarded his MBE, he said that he would have preferred a Royal Enfield but, thinking about it, he was too old to start keeping chickens.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Peterloo Massacre (Harvey Kershaw)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Aug 19 - 12:45 PM

Sounds like one of John's :-)

I always liked his tales ending with a fairish height and peer gynt suite :-D


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