BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two

Subject: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Aug 00 - 06:37 PM

Sinsull requested a new one, as the other was up to 140 postings, so please carry on here.

You will find the old thread,here

Thanks,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Aug 00 - 10:33 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Brendy
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 03:42 AM

"...kids need to have knowledge and skills banged into them;..."

Also sprach Bald Eagle; 'Illiteracy'; 24.7.00 2.04PM

And you call me a prick?

The education system would really be something left in the hands of cunts like you.

Pulling the wings off flies, eh?
I think it's something a bit more serious than that.

Well I'm glad that you are where you are, and my kids are nowhere the fuck near you, you arsewipe

You sit perched on the fence of some of these threads, Cuntface Sam, or whatever the fuck your name is, and you fire your little arrows in at whoever might be carrying on a conversation that you lack the intellectual wherewithal to contribute your tuppence ha'penny to.

Instead you chose to spend your time button-holing others, on who should be calling who by what name. If the person concerned had not wished me to call him by his 'real name', I'm sure he would have let me know, either publicly, or through a PM. Either way, it was none of your fucking business.

Comments on 'mudcat cliqueishness' should be confined to threads that deal with that kind of thing, and 'Garbage dumps' are places for responding to ass-holes like you, who make the very presence of these things, necessary.

As for you, your real name; your whole family tree, in fact: If I was a dog, I wouldn't piss on it.

Let's just agree that you don't really like me, sunshine. Fine. I know why, and I have no problem with that. And I don't need your acceptance for my life to function as normal. I am occupied in much worthier pursuits, and from looking at some of the little jibes you have put in here since I've 'known' you, I can see that somewhere in there is a disturbed individual. Someone who isn't really happy with his lot.

I, on the other hand, am extremely happy with my lot. My life is good.
I have a woman who loves me, kids who think I'm 'OK' (as much as I can hope, I suppose, from teenagers), I do the job I want to do, and my future is full of plans. As it always has been.

I don't pull the wings off flies, wank dog. Through all the tribulations of my childhood, I was always a happy child. I never gritted my teeth in my sleep, stuck pins in dolls, or pulled flies' wings off.

But I can spot fuckwits that did.

Sort of makes 'Tim' a bit mild, now, Eagle, old chum

B.

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Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 03:47 AM

Is this really such a good idea?

Do all of us need to know what you think of each other?

Can you not just use Personal Messages for this?

Please?

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: bbelle
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 11:48 AM

Shambles ... the purpose of this thread is to give people and place to rant, without comment. Everyone has their frustrations and, while we may not agree with them, this is the place to do it, rather than taking up time in the other threads. And, BTW, bald eagle did a good rant in the first thread. I'm not used to seeing such coarse language, but that happens, in the face of anger and frustration. So, please, let the thread be what it is.

moonchild

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 12:21 PM

Rant without comment? Really? Do we all agree to just listen to each other, without comment, in this one thread? I do. Do the rest of you?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 12:44 PM

I only asked the questions?

This is a discussion forum. Why would anyone wish to post anything here that did not start or form part of a discussion?

What you are talking about is graffiti......Why not just find a wall?

Rant away...But expect a response..If you don't want a response then don't post.

Please leave personal abuse off of this public forum.

It is only my politely express request.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 01:01 PM

Shamb,

It is more like a support group where people agree to guidelines. Not the whole forum, of course. This one thread. As an exploration in a new way of handling certain things. A work in progress. With people trying to see if it is useful. To see if something that works well in 3D can work here. Being listened to without judgment, when simple listening is what is most needed.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 01:11 PM

Brendy, you are an angry and unhappy man. You are one of the reasons I signed off the mudcat. It would be a better place if you stopped all your flaming. You scare me. I would not want to ever meet you, I'm sure.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 01:12 PM

Your misogyny is also very frightening. I am glad I am not married to you that's for sure...

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 01:55 PM

A lot of people have tried very hard to create and maintain a tone of mutual respect on The Mudcat. To refrain from personal abuse and bad language.

Please think this one through. It will not be possible to contain this in one thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 02:11 PM

Shambles, you may be right. That's what part of the discussion is about. I know you say this because you care. I do too. Just have different tools to do it with, maybe.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Naemanson
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 02:46 PM

Carl Sagan once formulated, or quoted, the rules of a good intellectual discussion. I can't remember them all off hand but one of them is that you should never descend to the level of personal attack. Attack the argument, never the person. I'll try to look them up and get them into this post.

As hard as it is to believe, the other person usually truly believes his point of view is correct and logical. A personal attack gains no points and wins no argument. That being said there is no need for the language that surfaces for an argument cannot feel the sting of the language. Only the other person can. If someone is unable to formulate a reasoned alternative pont of view then his/her post is of little importance anyway and can be disregarded.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 03:16 PM

How about I start a new trend here.......
Okay everybody, I am pissed off at myself.
I haven't dusted my place in over a month and I see tumbleweeds rolling down my hall.
I promised myself I would repot my plants because they need it so desperately, and yet what do I do?.......I read threads like this instead.
My windows need washing, my stove is a disgrace and my bathroom is not fit to walk into. Yet, here I sit doing everything else than what I said I would do.
I'm disgusted in myself. Such a garbage dump I live in, really!

Bonnie

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: bbelle
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 03:19 PM

Oh, Bonnie ... we are kindred spirits! I still have not unpacked from my trip. I still haven't completely unpacked from my move in January. It's the mudcat's fault!!!!!

Do you think we could share a housekeeper?

moonchild

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST,Bob Schwarer
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 03:49 PM

Sounds like home. No kidding.

Bob S.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: kendall
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 04:09 PM

My oven is so dirty, I can only bake one bisquit at a time.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 04:17 PM

That's OK Kendall.......Yankee like you probably eats them whomp biscuits anyway.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Peter T.
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 04:26 PM

Come on Bonnie, we know the real reason - you have 200 new CDs and 100 tapes from Mr. Pirate Radio DJ. We don't expect you to surface for days.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 04:45 PM

How did you know I stuck gold Peter!
Like a miser, I count them on the hour.
I've inherited 180 CD's, 150 tapes, and 20 albums.
I'm still in shock and I'd say this was the best birthday give I have ever received in my entire life.
The Man is a Saint.

Bonnie

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Morticia
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 06:21 PM

BB, take heart........only dull women have immaculate houses.....I must be really interesting :)My sitting room carpet crunches.....there are things in the back of the fridge that no-one can identify but we figure with a good bolt of lightening they will attain life and you can write your name on most every surface......and what am I doing about it? Well, I'm here telling you guys about it:)

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Naemanson
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 09:07 PM

I gues, to hear you guys tell it, I am in good company regarding the condition of my house. The difference is that my girlfriend is coming to visit next weekend and I have to clean!!! She is one of the neatest people I have ever met and I must be one of the sloppiest!

Does this make for a good relationship with a future? Only the crystal ball knows.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: kendall
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 09:15 PM

Prediction..something has to give.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 09:16 PM

I married a compulsive tidier - it can work out, but only at the expense of your favourite coffee monster.... LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Áine
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 09:16 PM

Dearest Brendy,

wank dog?? I LOVE IT!! Your rant is possibly the best thing I've read in weeks. I do hope that you're feeling the better for it, though. My eldest son is home from university for the weekend and will be taking wank dog back to school to share (hehehehe). However, I have a feeling that since he is a Texas-American, he will be making your fantastic phrase into one word, wankdog -- I hope you don't mind -- You know how we Americans have to abbreviate everything.

I also enjoyed: "As for you, your real name; your whole family tree, in fact: If I was a dog, I wouldn't piss on it." Bloody brilliant cutdown, dear. May I use it, please? How about if I trade you a good ole Texas saying for it -- "If you were snot, you wouldn't even roll off a hot rock." I know, it pales in comparison to yours, but in the summer down here in 'virtual' hell, it packs a whollop.

With all due respect to your wordcraft, Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 09:52 PM

I dunno Aine....Why not go for............

Go scriosa galar togalach do bhall fearga.

Not Texan I know, but.....

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: bbelle
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 10:03 PM

Aine ... haven't seen you for a while. Would you please PM me and let me know how I can contact you? Thanks ...

moonchild

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Áine
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 10:21 PM

My dearest, darlin' Spaw -- why mince words, when a good "Póg mo thóin" will do? ;-) -- And I'm well aware of what you've been up to in re the Irish . . . the pedantic lecture and finger shaking has been postponed until a later, more appropriate time (hehehehe) . . .

And moonchild, a PM is on its way to you (Geez, I hope I'm not in the doghouse...)

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Mbo
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 10:27 PM

Póg mo chroidhe.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: bbelle
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 11:33 PM

Aine ... absolutely not.

moonchild

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Den
Date: 05 Aug 00 - 11:51 PM

Spaw is speaking in tongues...Irish tongues at that...what the feck is happening here. Den

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Aug 00 - 01:05 AM

Ah, Den, ya noticed it, too. Moonchild put me on the path of discovery, but I canna remember which thread it was in, so here is a link to where he is getting his quick knowledge: please click here. It's good one!

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Ringer
Date: 06 Aug 00 - 02:18 PM

I gather my shot went home, then, Brendy. You don't address my points, I note.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Aug 00 - 05:44 PM

We don't have to address points in a rant!! And I sure would like to flay the skin off the !@@#$% that keeps bugging realmoon and stuff it down his throat raw, with salt and vinegar. I am not nearly as good with words as Brendy, but that was a truly magnificent rant!!

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Sailor Dan
Date: 06 Aug 00 - 11:05 PM

Geez

I'LL bet Brendy was a sailor. Eloquent, very eloquent.

But somewhere along the line I did almost as well and it made me feel better.

But to the lower then whaleshit guest

"Go salai cunna infrinado chat" and may you have a good nite also.

Sailor dan

Hey spaw thanks

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 08:46 AM

I am starting the week with a major whine. My nephew was screwing around with my computer and just plain fucked it up. And so I missed the European Hearme on Friday and Saturday and developed a major withdrawal headache until this morning at work where I have access to a computer BUT limited time on Mudcat. Bitch! Bitch! Bitch! Anybody know how to undo the damage? He was installing Palm Pilot software and somehow created a permanent FAX connection. When I try to go on line I get a message that software is running or a FAX is operating. Turn them off or reboot. I have repeatedly but still get the same message. Life is not fair.
End of bitch (temporary end of bitch, actually)

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: flattop
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 10:48 AM

I have to agree. Mudcat is in shambles. Perhaps we all need impersonal message buttons. And how'd you fool the wife and the kids Brendy? Well, I guess we might know where the kids got their genes.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST,Sailor Dan at work
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 11:29 AM

Sinsull

The best thing you could do is to go into My Computer, select C drive, select the program that he installed and if there is a remove program, remove it or if not, delete the program entirely. The same thing happened here at work in a similar situation and we had to get the IT group to install it and make some changes so everything would work.

I would suggest you delete, get the computer operating and before you install again, use the customer contact and have them walk you through the re-installation.

I hope this helps

Sailor DAn

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Brendy
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 12:21 PM

So I take it that you wouldn't want to be married to me either, flattop?

Fair enough. I've removed your name from my Christmas card list. *BG*

B.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 12:34 PM

Thanks, Dan. I am at work now but will try deleting the software tonight.

I knew I wasn't finished bitching. Another ugly anonymous thread appears slighting Max and Pene Azul among others and it is now 38 posts long. Why respond to a malcontent who hasn't the balls to sign even his online name?
And am I alone in recognizing the style as belonging to one who with tearful apologies swore not to flame here again?

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: flattop
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 12:43 PM

I guess I get the Dicken's Christmas.

Would you please identify these ugly threads a little better ss? Unless the thread has a good headline, like Dump Number Two, we may have trouble finding the black furry things growing in the fruitbowl.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 01:20 PM

Sinsull

I have a question? I asked this of someone else. If we know who is doing this anonymous flaming, Why don't we just name IT for the world to see? This way we can call it by name, maybe get an email and give them a taste of some direct confrontation.

If this IT is now known to everyone, then maybe they will stop as soon as they realize that they cant hide behind the cloak of anonimity.

Sailor DAn

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST,Another Guest
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 01:51 PM

Regarding the above guest's suggestion, this is a possibility, BUT, you had better have absolute proof in doing so, because without that proof you will contribute to destroying that which you seek to protect. If you lack the abolsute proof and post a public supposition, you will create and sew more paranoia and distrust and not be doing this forum a favor.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST,Sailor Dan at work
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 01:58 PM

To "another guest" above.

I forgot to reset my cookie for here, BUT I did sign my name. You didn't do either.

But let me clarify what I meant by saying you are absolutely correct. THERE MUST BE PROOF POSITIVE that the individual named is the one. I am not justifying a witch hunt on the basis of supposition.

A number of people are pretty positive of the one or two no name guests identity. If we can get together and prove it , Lets name them.

Sailor DAn

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 02:06 PM

No flattop, Max has responded and I prefer to leave it at that.
Dan, send me a PM and I will be happy to speak with you.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 02:31 PM

And I suggest our flamer get himself a dictionary. He gives himself away with "sew more paranoia", etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: GUEST,Sailor Dan at work
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 02:35 PM

Sinsull

Will have to pm from home base. cant seem to do it from the work place. Joe Offer has offered to draw and quarter me if I sign on again with a second membership. I am afraid he will.

But if you PM me it will go to home base and I can answer or I will PM you tonight when I get there.

Blessings

Sailor DAn

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: SeanM
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 02:37 PM

This may have some bearing on the topic.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 02:42 PM

Done, Dan. I like the sound of that!
Mary

Subject: RE: BS: Garbage Dumping thread - Part Two
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Aug 00 - 03:29 PM

I am honestly sick of all this paranoid shit! Snarl, grump...

The guest above did not flame, and I agree with everything it said. There's too fucking much personality in here and not enough communication. I don't give a shit who "Another Guest" is. Someone posts a legitimate opinion, and all anyone notices is he/she doesn't have a cookie!!

I don't even give a shit who the anonymous flamers are. I am royally pissed at the way people are treated by what they look like, not how they behave. I have been absolutely sick at the fact that we now have a place on Mudcat specifically for dumping garbage.
I'm sure Max is very happy at the way this place he gave us is being used at the moment. If you respond to the creeps anywhere publicly, in any thread, and they get what they want. Fer Chrissakes, they have special threads just for replies to them! We're handing them the place, and we NEVER learn.

I'm going anonymous. Not to behave any differently than I normally do - simply because I think maybe a couple people may think before flaming. Maybe not.