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Lyr Req: The Brown and the Yellow Ale

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THE BROWN AND THE YELLOW ALE
THE BROWN AND YELLOW EARL


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28 Nov 96 - 02:13 PM
dick greenhaus 28 Nov 96 - 09:37 PM
Colm Doyle 29 Nov 96 - 02:08 AM
MRYAN@server1.rtc-athlone.ie 04 Dec 96 - 11:49 AM
dick greenhaus 06 Dec 96 - 10:55 PM
Martin Ryan 10 Dec 96 - 10:58 AM
dick greenhaus 10 Dec 96 - 08:19 PM
Joe Offer 01 Jul 97 - 01:36 AM
Martin Ryan 02 Jul 97 - 04:22 AM
Anglo 25 Mar 16 - 05:32 PM
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Subject: james joyce yellow ale
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Date: 28 Nov 96 - 02:13 PM

I'm looking for the lyrics of a favorite song of the Irish author James Joyce.
It's known as The Yellow Ale and sometimes as The Noble Enchanter.
Thanks
prospero@netins.net
See Ulysses Pub Songs


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Subject: RE: james joyce yellow ale
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 28 Nov 96 - 09:37 PM

Hi- a version (folk-processed) called The Brown and Yellow EARL is in the database. I'm told that James didn't write it--only quoted it.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BROWN AND THE YELLOW ALE
From: Colm Doyle
Date: 29 Nov 96 - 02:08 AM

If your looking for the version that the Voice Squad and Phil Callery sing on the album Hollywood and if my memory serves me well it goes something like this...

THE BROWN AND THE YELLOW ALE

As I went down the road one fine summer's morning,
    Oh, the brown and the yellow ale,
I met with a young man without any warning.
    Oh, love of my heart.

He asked me if the woman by my side was my daughter.
    Oh, the brown and the yellow ale,
When I said, ?she's my wife,? well, his manner didn't alter.
    Oh, love of my heart.

He asked me if he could lend her for an hour and a day.
    Oh, the brown and the yellow ale,
?If my wife thinks it fine, you may take her away.?
    Oh, love of my heart.

Then you take the high road and I'll be off with her,
    Oh, the brown and the yellow ale,
And I'll meet you again by the ford on the river.
    Oh, love of my heart.

I waited by the bridge for an hour and a quarter,
    Oh, the brown and the yellow ale,
And when she arrived 'twas without shame I saw her.
    Oh, love of my heart.

When she told me what she'd done, sure I laid down and died.
    Oh, the brown and the yellow ale,
She sent for timber and she never even cried.
    Oh, love of my heart.

If my own little mother had never been a woman,
    Oh, the brown and the yellow ale,
I'd tell you many's the tale about women.
    Oh, love of my heart.


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Subject: RE: james joyce yellow ale
From: MRYAN@server1.rtc-athlone.ie
Date: 04 Dec 96 - 11:49 AM

"The Brown and the Yellow Ale" appears to derive from a Gaelic song which goes under various titles e.g. Cumha an Londobh Bui (Lament? of the yellow blackbird) Thugamar Fein an samhradh linn/ Summer is coming.

Its a long story - but the explanation offered in the DT looks most unlikely.There are some curious translations at work.

Martin Ryan


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Subject: RE: james joyce yellow ale
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Dec 96 - 10:55 PM

Hi- The contents of the DT are, laregely, what people send in. And people are, at best, unreliable. If you know of a better translation (or even a more plausible one), send it in. That way leads us on another tiny step of the journey towards perfection.

please.


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Subject: RE: james joyce yellow ale
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 10 Dec 96 - 10:58 AM

The comment on the "plausibility" of the Brown and Yellow Earl was not intended to be hypercritical! In fact "ale" is not all that common a word in songs in the Irish tradition either.The Gaelic versions mention neither beer nor nobles - hence my feeling that what appear to be keywords are actually later add-ons.

Versions of this song often involve the old man coming back to watch his own funeral - and not being impressed with the arrrangements made by the widow! The death and resurrection theme probably explains Joyce's interest. It is thought in Ireland that the oldest versions come from Tory Island (off the northwest coast).

Keep up the good work.


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Subject: RE: james joyce yellow ale
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 10 Dec 96 - 08:19 PM

Hi- Interesting. I'll try to contact Frank Harte about this-- he had a particular interest in the song. dick


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Subject: RE: james joyce yellow ale
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Jul 97 - 01:36 AM

Was somebody looking for this thread? Just set the search calendar back to 365 days and search under "ale."

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: james joyce yellow ale
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 02 Jul 97 - 04:22 AM

Thanks Joe!

I had got lazy and only searched on "brown"!

I'll post some comments later.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Brown and the Yellow Ale
From: Anglo
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 05:32 PM

I just linked to this old thread from a current one. But here goes...

As far as I know, Brown & Yellow "Earl" comes from American singer Debby McClatchy, who learned the song on one of her many trips to Britain (from the 70s, 80s or so). Her version was published in the Chicago folk music mag Come For To Sing, and did get some circulation in the US. She misheard the words; it's a mondegreen.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Brown and the Yellow Ale
From: GUEST,MartinRyan
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 05:39 PM

Yes, Anglo - we sussed that out alright. Great song.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Brown and the Yellow Ale
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:22 PM

Wonderful mondegreen it was too, with lots of scholarly observations in her sleevenotes as to the significance of the colours in the oh-so-mondegreened nobleman's escutcheon...

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Brown and the Yellow Ale
From: MartinRyan
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 06:40 PM

"... nobleman's escutcheon..."? I thought she said "kitchen"...

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Brown and the Yellow Ale
From: NightWing
Date: 25 Mar 16 - 08:30 PM

"... nobleman..." I thought she said "double mint" and wondered how Wrigley got involved. ;->

BB,
NightWing


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