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How many Mudcats have cats!?

Senoufou 11 Oct 18 - 07:49 AM
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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 11 Oct 18 - 07:49 AM

It sounds a bit like us in the Food Hall of the shopping mall in Norwich Jon - a selection of food outlets, and we decide what we fancy that day and which one to visit.

A neighbour told me this morning that the couple who own Spirit have just taken in two kittens!! So they now have four cats and three dogs.
That explains why poor old Spirit is haunting our garden so much.

We left our front door open today (lovely warm sunny weather) and before we knew it, he was in our kitchen, hoovering up yet more grub from our own cats' plates. SmokeyPokey was thoroughly disgusted and said some very, very rude Siamese words.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 11 Oct 18 - 06:59 AM

But he knows (and expects) that this is a "drop in point~" for food if he needs.

And sometimes I can almost imagine him going through his list of “food outlets” and thinking “I didn’t think much of them last night, I’ll try this place today” or “they gave me cat milk and I liked that so they are worth another visit”. And he might make similar choices about his “places of residence” (of which, the old pigsties may be in favour again, he left in that direction last night).

But I guess it’s all rather more mundane survival stuff. A “food source” might go on holiday or move. Other events (eg our arrival of Furball) may make a place less desirable. And it’s possible he just feels more comfortable moving around a bit.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 01:56 PM

Had a lot of food in, firstly 'cause of Mewan and then Furball but will have to be getting more in soon...

Spirit sounds yet another mystery but glad things seem to be going well.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 01:46 PM

You're like me Jon - I can't refuse any cat that arrives at our door apparently hungry. And we always have spare grub, tail ends of cat-food pouches, bits of chicken, slices of ham etc.
Spirit has taken to lounging on our bench in front of the house from about 6am. It faces south and he basks in the sunshine. He's definitely of the opinion that this would make a good 'gaff' to move into!


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 01:32 PM

Puss-puss has turned up last 2 days. Yesterday, I fed him the first three pouches then (as we were on Wiltshire farms, rather than our own (mostly mine) cooking yesterday, so microwave one meal at a time), had Pip feed him the last one, apparently plus some "cat milk~" which he relished.

And he's back again tonight....

Can;t work out his ways at all. But he knows (and expects) that this is a "drop in point~" for food if he needs.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 11:05 AM

"I strongly believe that cats mourn when a sibling or a kitten dies, or even another cat in the household who was not related by blood."

Not sure there.

Oedipuss who had been a bit scared of SnotCat was back to “king cat” when he realised the latter had gone. Strutting around and asserting himself…

More generally though, they do seem to know something is amiss and seem appear a little disturbed for a while.

Mind you, cats are funny creatures in another way in that they get used to how things are “supposed to be”. Things like a furniture rearrangement or say with Snotcat either Pip or I not in the living room for the last bit of the night can throw them.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 Oct 18 - 02:04 PM

Well, today a small miracle occurred. Spirit was hanging around whingeing for food, so I put a plate out for him plus some milk. SmokeyPokey looked peeved as usual, but after he'd eaten, Spirit came right up to him, nose-to-nose and they both sniffed each other. Neither growled or lifted a paw. Then they went on to sniff each other's bottom (always a good sign!) and it's looking as though a Peace Treaty has been signed.

Not only that, but while Ruth and I were sitting on the bench in the sunshine, Logie and Molly came past. Their owners let them off their leashes and they bounded into our garden. They gave Ruth a 'kiss' (slobbery) and offered me a paw. Both dogs and both cats, Ruth, Steve, Anne and I had a little chat together, and it was just lovely.

I'm now wondering if I dreamed it!!


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Oct 18 - 12:55 PM

Eliza/Senoufou, once again the nefarious misdeeds of Spirit
recall a song I quoted many posts ago.

"The polis station doon oor way
Has baurs oan the windae sull
They're no tae keep the prisoners in
They're tae keep oot Sam the Skull"


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 30 Sep 18 - 12:05 PM

Ooooh Charmion, that's a good idea! Wouldn't mind rats or mosquitoes, but SPIDERS?! Anything that keeps them (and Spirit!) out is favourite!

Those raccoons being charmed seemed to be feeding on a line of food on the ground. I wonder if they've come to associate the flutey music with grub?


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 30 Sep 18 - 11:23 AM

Eliza, do you not have window screens in Norfolk? They work, not only on flies and mosquitoes, but also on rats, cats and -- yes! -- spiders. I promise.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 30 Sep 18 - 08:48 AM

Raccoon charming


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 30 Sep 18 - 06:40 AM

We had the fright of our lives last night at about 3am. We always have our bedroom window wide open (bungalow) and suddenly a Being jumped through it and landed on the carpet, making strange sounds.

We shot out of bed, and it turned out to be That Cat (Spirit the Nuisance) He'd decided it would be rather nice to get into bed with us, the blighter.

Our cats are always shut in the kitchen/utility room and don't go out at night, so they never knew what had occurred.

Husband grabbed my glass of water from the bedside table, opened the front door and 'persuaded' the poor thing to exit swiftly.


We're going to have to open only the small louvred window at night (he can't get through that).


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 20 Sep 18 - 09:55 AM

What is it about a bacon sandwich that makes me laugh like a drain? The very phrase "bacon sandwich" is enough to set me off.

I strongly believe that cats mourn when a sibling or a kitten dies, or even another cat in the household who was not related by blood. They certainly feel the loss of human companions; their efforts to find the missing person are unmistakable.

My first husband, Mr Wrong, was a lousy spouse but very good to cats. When he finally left (or was pushed; it's debatable), the three cats then in residence, and the two pensioners who dropped in daily for grub and company, all showed signs of missing him, sitting on me obsessively in shifts and wandering about shouting.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 12:53 PM

Oh Jack that's so sad. Poor little thing.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 10:02 AM

One of our cats came through the catflap one morning carrying a still-warm bacon sandwich in her mouth. A neighbour must have left a window open a few seconds too long.

The same cat had a thing about gloves. She'd had one litter of three kittens, one of them stillborn. For the rest of her life, she would pick up a glove and carry it around like a kitten, then gently put it down and meow pathetically to it when it didn't move.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 09:54 AM

A raccoon who can open an Ottawa green bin would have exactly zero problem with your standard North American refrigerator, and chaos would ensue. Messy chaos.

Squirrels and hedgehogs lack the initiative and stick-to-it-iveness, not to mention the hands, that your typical Ontario raccoon demonstrates on a daily basis. As for foxes -- well, maybe. But they, too, lack the trash panda's finger strength.

Most Canadian municipalities, even very small ones, have by-laws against keeping wild animals within town limits. People complain that their pet whatever (boa constrictor, tiger, kangaroo) is no problem, but on the whole their neighbours disagree. I would be exceedingly unhappy to discover that the people next door are keeping a "domesticated" raccoon, especially in row (terrace) housing.

I wonder what focussed Simon-the-Pieman's attention on small items of clothing? I can sort of understand a fascination with bras, having seen what our cats did to the tassels on the ends of a table runner, but underpants? That's weird.

We used to have a long-haired tuxedo cat name of Lucy who liked rolled-up socks. If she got into the sock drawer or found a basket of unattended laundry, she would seize a sock ball in her teeth and carry it around the house for hours.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 08:30 AM

We have foxes that like to rummage through rubbish/wheelie bins.
Like raccoons I imagine, they don't normally make good pets because they're essentially wild animals.
But people here have taken in baby squirrels, foxes, hedgehogs and other wild creatures and maintain that they become very domesticated and tame.

I saw an article in the newspaper yesterday that reported a cat stealing ladies panties from washing lines!! People thought a pervert was responsible, but when they set up a camera, they saw the little blighter doing exactly what Simon-the-Pieman did - grabbing the items and tugging them down from the pegs.

Luckily Simon restricted himself to bras. But once, some little girls in a nearby garden were having a dolls' tea party on their lawn, and Simon managed to snatch the little tablecloth and run off with it.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 07:51 AM

When city-wide collection of organic garbage for composting was introduced in Ottawa, special green wheelie bins with solidly latched lids were distributed, one per household. The nannyish cleaning instructions that came with ours assured us that the latch was proof against raccoons so the bin could safely be left outside.

Within a week, the Ottawa Citizen published a feature story, complete with photos, by a reporter who rigged infra-red cameras around his green bin. Two raccoons were immortalized in the act of prying the lid open; one, clearly reacting to camera noise, is looking over his shoulder with an expression that says, "Do you mind? We're working here!"

We lived close to the Rideau River, where raccoons and skunks abound, so our green bin lived in the garage and never saw the great outdoors until the morning of garbage day.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Sep 18 - 07:15 PM

Raccoons, bless them, are scavengers par excellence.
Have Appetite, Will Travel Anywhere to Eat Something.

There is a famous account
of young Marlon Brando keeping a raccoon for a pet,
bringing it to the West Coast with him.
He hung onto that little guy until it died.
Called it Russell, I think.

I recommend AVOIDING Brando's example.
Not good for the raccoon, and ruinous for anyone and everyone else.
Born to be wild, this scavenger.

Wish Tami / Ranger1 would chime in on this one --
she has probably encountered raccoons.
But then so might any ranger (SRS??).
But you don't have to be a ranger to encounter raccoons
because they populate all those urban margins which attract
coyotes and suchlike,
and the US has many such places.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 18 Sep 18 - 07:06 PM

I have seen probably thousands of raccoons over my 64 years of life, most of it spent in Ontario, but only one was "much bigger" than a cat; generally, coons around here run about the size of a large tomcat.

Raccoons are related to bears; like their bigger cousins, raccoons are fully plantigrade and omnivorous. For a small animal, the raccoon is formidably intelligent; they easily defeat the latches on compost and garbage bins carefully designed to keep them out. (In Toronto, a city crisis-crossed by ravines that make ideal raccoon habitat, people call them "trash pandas".) I have seen a family of raccoons (mum and four kits) work together to flip six-foot planks left out on the driveway, presumably in search of bugs and slugs and such small deer.

People do manage to tame raccoons that are found as weanling kits, but I've never heard of one being successfully house-trained. No city person should try it.

Cats flee from raccoons. A raccoon will kill and eat baby kittens, but won't bother with an adult cat -- too big, and too many claws to be convenient.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 18 Sep 18 - 01:21 PM

Raccoons are much bigger than cats, a lot tougher, and a lot smarter. Nobody in their right mind would keep one as a pet.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Sep 18 - 01:38 PM

Can't remember if I asked before but what are racoons like Charmion They always look so fun but I'd not see one in the UK. And do they often get along with cats or are they a danger to them.

They sort of look like potential pets from here but maybe not...


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 17 Sep 18 - 08:54 AM

None of my cats has ever been a collector. I feel cheated.

Because Ontario cities are rife with raccoons, I have never had a cat flap in an exterior door. This lack probably cramped my cats' style.

I would have paid serious money to see Eliza's gang of Siamese murderers lugging home their prey and shoving it through the cat flap ...


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 17 Sep 18 - 08:45 AM

It's true Jon. Even brothers can differ enormously in character. Often, they don't even seem to much like each other!

The things dragged through our cat-flaps over the years have been astonishing. Every creature known to man in the last house. Even a whole pheasant!
The 'team' of five cats had it down to a fine art. The two best hunters would get the prey, often transporting it like two men with a stretcher. The others would muck in at the door, some pushing from the outside, and the others pulling from the inside.

Often the poor thing was still quite alive. The number of necks I've wrung over the years! I hated dispatching the prey but it would have been cruel to let them live mangled and injured.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Sep 18 - 07:19 AM

Funny the way they can be so different. I have seen things brought in, the most surprising being Oedipuss MK1 (a white cat we had in N Wales) managing to get an adult rabbit through the cat flap but we've not had one I'd think of as a collector.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 17 Sep 18 - 07:03 AM

We had a cat years ago called Simon-the-Pieman, a really super Siamese with tons of character. His brother, AndyPandy was rather boring and just wanted to snuggle/eat/sleep but he was a sweet chap all the same. (I used to get two litter mates every time, as they were company for each other)

Simon would retrieve any small toy thrown for him, just like a dog.
But his favourite occupation was pulling items from people's clothes line in their gardens. He'd then drag the things through the cat flap and present them to me very proudly.

He seemed to like bras very much, and would drag them about gleefully before bringing them indoors.

It was very embarrassing knocking on neighbours' doors holding a selection of bras and asking if they recognised any of them.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Sep 18 - 06:23 AM

K. Delia was a bit of a wreck when my parents found her lying on a footpath. She had a (we think) brother with her but they were only able to catch the one. I don't know what happened to the other one.

She was very wild when we took her in and drew blood the first time I tried to handle her but she got used to people very quickly, recovered from her cat flu or whatever it was and became a friendly little creature.

She liked to play games and I think she was the only cat we had that would retrieve a toy - throw something for her and she would bring it back for another go.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Sep 18 - 06:51 PM

Jon, your Delia looks like a scrappy little thing.
Thanks for sharing your memories.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 12:14 PM

Over the years, several cats moved in with me from the street, and all but two of them lived to be senior citizens. Toms do less well than the ladies, dying young of urinary tract blockage and kidney failure. In my experience, female cats tend to die of kidney failure masked by thyroid problems (distressingly common) and, like humans, cancer and strokes.

I miss them all. Unlike people, I have only fond memories of cats.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 08:56 AM

Sen, a brother does have a cat that needs a very strict diet because of weight problems and I could also note that when we had Furball neutered, we were made aware of a free service the vets offered for neutered toms in case of weight problems. So there can be problems but, it's not one I've encountered (nor I think Pip with 82 years of knowing cats) and like you, our feeding can include treats like chicken...

It's always a bit hard when the cat has a short life but you have to (as you are) focus on the good. Or try to. None of the three that I suppose became or looked to be becoming more "my cat" since being here fared that well. We did have SnotCat for a small number of years though. Delia the other one, nursed from this found on a footpath and I think unlikely to have lasted another day in the wild to this who used to sleep on my bed did not see adult life. We think it was the then farm estate manager's Jack Russell that got her.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 08:33 AM

One of our cat's many years ago used to bring strays home with him. But only ever black and white ones! He once brought one who we christened Walter and he was a lovely thing who stayed for a while. Sadly he was very ill and I suspect had been rejected. Even though he did not last long, I was pleased to have provided a bit of comfort for him in his last weeks.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 08:28 AM

I too find cats are self-limiting with quantities of food Jon. When they're full, they're full.
Spirit was like that at first, wolfing down huge platefuls of grub. But several of the neighbours give him a bite to eat now, and he's not quite so ravenous.
I think it's lovely how compassionate you are with stray cats. They sense it I'm sure, and dare to approach. Solo was like that (cat at our last house, I've mentioned him before) He eventually trusted us and we took him in. He died after 2 years, but at least he knew love.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 08:17 AM

Assuming we've got the food, Sen, we just give them what they want. Furball was also eating 3-4 pouches when he first appeared. He settled down after more regular feeding and possibly the de worming helped. If he does decide to become regular here again for a while, PussPuss will likely reduce to 2 pouches per day/visit. I don't think we've ever worried about them overeating and taken it to be what they need at the time. I must admit to being a bit surprised the first time PussPuss waited for a second helping though.

PussPuss will respond to his name being called if spotted passing through and hungry. He doesn't approach but waits around to see if a dish of food comes out.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 08:03 AM

Thank you Jon.
How kind of you to give PussPuss four pouches, he must have been so hungry to get all that down him!
I've 'trained' Spirit to come when I make a special noise (a sort of 'kiss kiss' sound) when he's lurking about. If I hiss, he shoves off.
I find cats respond to signals and sounds.

At night when we're ready to go to bed, we stand there clapping our hands loudly and our two immediately get up from the sofa and head for their cosy beds in the kitchen. They sleep together in one bed, but sometimes one is sick (Siamese seem to huff up quite a lot, no idea why!) and they can swiftly decamp into the other bed.

I bet we look right wallies standing there clapping. Ruth-across-the-road saw us doing that one evening in our front garden, and she doubled up. She asked us, "What? Are yew a-givin' them bloomin' cats a rownd uv applause?"


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 07:49 AM

Shame though that they had to go a-begging to get food

Probably said half of this before - I lose track but... But I don’t think PussPuss has ever known life any different. It does seem an odd life but whereas with Furball for example, there was always at least the knowledge that he could meow for attention, there is none of that with PussPuss or any indication that he could consider human friendship. Things start and stop with the idea that we are supposed to feed him if he waits for food.

Perhaps SnotCat was closer to Dave’s one in that there is a feeling that he belonged to an old lady who died. Unfortunately he was known to have spent some time in the then large feral community before settling with us. He was probably the boss there for a while and was much larger than your average tom but we believe it was through fighting there that he contracted the cat aids. I think we only had him in his 3-4 year sort of remission period.

Glad Murphy is picking up a bit.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 05:36 AM

Wild Road by Gabriel King. I'll look that up Dave. Sounds most interesting.
Love all the names of those stray cats. Shame though that they had to go a-begging to get food. Winter must have been hard for them all.
I seem to remember that Alan Titchmarsh programme about the twin ladies.
I fed Spirit again yesterday. He wolfed down a large plate of leftovers, and a bit of milk. I don't usually give cats milk as it can cause diarrhoeia, but he so loves it.

Smokey-Pokey sat on the bench and hollered right into my face in Siamese. I knew full well what he was saying. "Get that blinking White Thing off our property will yer? And for gawd's sake stop feeding the bugger!"


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 05:00 AM

At our old house we had an endless string of strays. There were a couple of old ladies lived just around the corner who once had individual adjacent houses but then moved in together and a whole herd of strays then moved into the empty one - It must have stunk! The herd spread until they were a pest unfortunately.

We moved out 5 years ago so we don't know what happened since but the old ladies (twins) featured in one of Alan Titchmarsh's garden makeovers a couple of years back! They had given up the big houses and moved into a newer bungalow just behind where we used to live. Our cats are much happier in their new home without all the visitors but I do miss them sometimes.

The ones we fed most often were Pepe (le pew), a big gentle tom; Boo, a skittish pure white oriental type; Maven, small, friendly, all black; and Mim, a little tabby that used to climb up the ivy at the back and shout at us until we fed her! Then there was the Commander - Big nasty alpha tom with bits missing. We used to discourage him! Pepe was like the lovely old grandad who looked after others. He brought Lily round to live with us :-) We think he may have once been the alpha but was ousted by the Commander. He seemed happy with his new role and wandered from house to house and even to the back door of a local charity shop for his daily treats.

Don't know if has been mentioned before but a good fantasy read about cats is the Wild Road series by Gabriel King. The synopsis of the first one (that the series is titled after) is "A novel about Tag, a naive young cat called upon to find the Queen of Cats from the Alchemist: if the Alchemist catches her first, the world will never be safe again. In the course of a great journey across a country and through the whole history of cats, Tag learns what it is to be a cat. " I enjoyed it anyway.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 04:18 AM

Isn't it funny how 'cat people' find odd cats hanging around? We now have Puss-Puss, Ollie and Spirit, not our own cats but 'hangers-on' from elsewhere. They certainly have an eye for a good gaff!

Murphy is a little better. I've been feeding him and Smokey-Pokey small bits of this and that almost non-stop while they lounge on the sofa during the day and evening. Bits of chicken, special cat biscuits, those luxury tiny tins of cat food and a small saucer of minced tuna. They seem to have put on a bit of weight, and their fur is in good nick (always a telling sign)
Husband has been having treats too, (Haribo Starmix) and dutifully eating more green vegetables and fruit. His skin is glowing (always a telling sign) :)


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 18 - 02:49 AM

We still have Li!y and Molly but the ranks have been swelled by occasional visitor, Ollie. He is an unneutered Tom but a big softy. We know his name and his story from his current owners and it is very sad. His owner lived across the road but, sadly, died leaving a young son and Ollie. The lads grandparents who live half a mile up the village took on both but Ollie keeps coming back and, I suppose, wondering why he cannot get in his house :-(

Last March, in all the bad weather, was when we first saw him. I guess he may have heard us shouting Molly to get her in and thought we were shouting him! He lived in our shed for a while and then we tracked down his owners through the village web site. They picked him up but he still visits for days at a time. I hope he is back home when he is not here. Molly gets on well with him but Lily doesn't or we would offer to 'foster' him.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 13 Sep 18 - 07:05 PM

Well, I came through to the living room about 7:45pm and father says “that old cat’s out there”. Sure enough, Puss Puss was out there and sitting there (within the limitations of a cat that does not trust humans) out in the open, as bold as brass, almost as if he’d got wind of Furball’s (who I still miss) demise through cat gossip channels and had decided we should feed him this evening.

I thought he looked a bit better than last time I saw him but he’s still the rough old stray who today let me within 3ft before backing away. I gave him 2 pouches for starters, then he stood to wait for another, and then a fourth as Pip and I were leaving for a music do.

We’ve still got plenty of pouches from Furball at the moment but I guess well need to keep some in stock in case of other visitors.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 09:28 AM

Good point Jon.
But Spirit hasn't been around for a couple of days.
And Murphy hasn't actually been face-to-face with him (he usually slinks away and spends the day in our sitting room, or in the conservatory)
He's lost weight lately and I suspect triaditis (he's Minty's brother)
We'll keep monitoring him.
SmokeyPokey seems to sense he's not feeling well and licks his head tenderly.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 08:31 AM

We’re getting there Sen, thanks.

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Just another thought with your cat. I'm probably way off but there's no chance he could be feeling this other cat you are feeding is moving in on him?


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 06:39 AM

Thank you Jon, I knew you'd understand.

With Minty last year we had to take him to the vet to be put to sleep as he wasn't drinking and his liver was swollen up.
We'll be keeping a close eye on Murphy and if we suspect any suffering we'll take him.
As you say, he might just be 'under the weather'.
Oh dear. Every time, I find it so hard to bear.

How are you doing after your loss of Furball Jon? We still miss Minty terribly. But he had a happy life (and Furball too enjoyed your affection and care) which does give some comfort.

Will update on here in a day or two.
Eliza


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 04:49 AM

I’m sorry Sen. That happened with Oedipus last year. Trouble is that, while you hope they will just die in peace one day, it doesn’t always (I’m not even sure we’ve had one case) work out that way and you wind up either having to take the cat to the vet or (costly but Pip’s preference) getting the vet in.

That said, your cat may still pick up and even if it is that final decline, there can be some good time remaining before the end.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 17 Aug 18 - 03:44 AM

Both our cats are very old, and we thought SmokeyPokey was the most frail. But yesterday Murphy was very lethargic and this morning he's rather mopey and sad.
I know the signs (had loads of elderly cats over the years) No use taking him to the vet, as he isn't actually ill, just old and tired.
Plus he's terribly nervous and would be traumatised by going in the cat basket to a strange place.
I'm very sad (so is my husband) as it looks as if we might have to say goodbye to Murphy fairly soon.
Hope I'm wrong, but the darling little souls don't last forever do they? :(


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 02:46 PM

Thank you keberoxu. The blooming thing was here again this morning (Husband said "I told you so!") so I gave him our two's leavings and a few bits of my husband's roasted topside of beef. (He offered it - he's as soft as me.)

My old mum would have fainted at the very idea of giving a blasted cat topside of beef.
However, he IS very cute and wolfed down the offering (the cat, not my husband, although the latter is very cute too).

Our two don't go out much, so I'm hoping there won't be any 'fracas dans le jardin' as my husband calls it!


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 01:20 PM

How could you NOT do what you did?
It would have kept you awake at night otherwise!


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 09:14 AM

Ah thank you Charmion.
I don't want to annoy his owners though. They might get a bit miffed that we're giving their cat food like that.
Also, our two were incandescent when they saw what I'd done. They stared at me as if I'd gone completely bonkers!

I suppose he will start haunting the premises now. But I'm a sucker - I can't pass a homeless person in the street, a peckish-looking bird, an entire African family scarcely keeping hunger at bay. It's just too distressing not to take action if I can possibly help in any way.
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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Charmion
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 09:05 AM

No, Eliza, you were not wrong. Spirit is probably now an under-cat in his own household, so he doesn't get as much of anything -- food, attention, access to desirable space -- as he used to. But don't be surprised if he gets to thinking that your household looks like a better 'ole.


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Subject: RE: How many Mudcats have cats!?
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 07:15 AM

Last week had the International cat day. I guess most cats are local.


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