Lyr Req: Second Hand Rose (from Fanny Brice)

Subject: Second Hand Rose
From: Ronaldo
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 06:22 PM

I came across this old song a few days ago and realised I no longer knew all of the words. Can anybody assist? Does anybody know whether it is a relatively recent composition or one with some tradition?

Ron from Sydney

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 06:36 PM

Ha! I don't think I've ever got in first before... Try for version with pretty pictures.

Jo

"Second Hand Rose"
Father has a business
Strictly second hand
Everything from toothpicks
To a baby-grand

Stuff in our apartment
Came from father's store
Even clothes I'm wearing
Someone wore before

It's no wonder that I feel abused
I never get a thing that ain't been used

I'm wearing second hand hats
Second hand clothes
That's why they call me
Second Hand Rose

Even our piano in the parlo
Daddy bought for ten cents on the dollar

Second hand pearls
I'm wearing second hand curls
I never get a single thing that's new

Even Jake, the plumber,
He's the man I adore
He had the nerve to tell me
He's been married before!

Everyone knows that I'm just
Second Hand Rose
From Second Avenue!
From Second Avenue!

Written by Burton Lane & Alan Jay Lerner
From the album My Name Is Barbra, Two . . .

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Jo Taylor
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 06:43 PM

Except I typed the clickie too quickly...

Try this for the page with the pretty pictures. From a quick search on Google .

Jo

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 06:51 PM

Dang! She beat me to it. I had a nice message all typed up, and it didn't go through. Anyhow, it may be that Lane & Lerner wrote a version for Streisand, but Click here for the original 1921 sheet music (if Levy makes the link work - maybe there's a copyright hold on this one???). Apparently the song was first sung by the original funny girl, Fanny Brice.
Here's the bibliographic information from The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music:

Title: Second Hand Rose.
Composer, Lyricist, Arranger: Words by Grant Clarke. Music by James F. Hanley.

Publication: New York: Shapiro, Bernstein & Co., Cor. Broadway & 47th Street, 1921.
Instrumentation: piano and voice
Form of Composition: strophic with chorus
First Line: Father has a bus'ness, strictly second-hand
First Line of Chorus: I'm wearing second hand hats, second hand clothes
Performer: F. Ziegfeld Jr. presents Ziegfeld Follies of 1921. Staged by Edward Royce. Sung by Miss Fanny Brice.
Engraver, Lithographer, Artist: Wohlman

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: little john cameron
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 06:58 PM

aye joe ah did the same an it's gone oot intae neverland.LJC

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Aug 00 - 07:01 PM

Yeah, I thought stuff came into public domain at 75 years, but apparently Levy is withholding this one for some reason.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Ronaldo
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 07:15 AM

Dear Jo, Joe and Little John,

Thanks for the wonderful service. This is the first time I have used the thread system and it works well!

Ron

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Banjer
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 08:48 AM

It seems there was a song with the same or very similar title in the country field. Late sixties, I think, artist unknown. The lyrics went something like:

Second hand shoes, second hand clothes,
They all call her 'second Hand Rose',
They all think they are pretty smart,
But Rose ain't got a second hand heart.

Does this ring a bell with anyone or is it just a product of the vast wasteland I call my memory? Bet Dale Rose would know!

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose (country)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 03:44 PM

Well, maybe not Dale Rose, but Gene posted it to Cowpie.
-Joe Offer-

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SECOND HAND ROSE
Recorded by Roy Drusky
Words and music by Grant Clarke, James Hanley & Harlan Howard

CHORUS
[E] Second hand shoes, Second hand clothes
[A] They all call her Second Hand Rose
[B7] They all think they're pretty smart
But Rose don't have a Second Hand [E] heart.

[E] I love a little girl who [A] lives across the way
[B7] I go to see her nearly ev'ry [E] day
And when I get the money, I'll [A] take her far away
So the [B7] town can't gather 'round her and [E] say.

CHORUS

They tease her about her clothes and things
It's hard to believe some folks can be so mean
But when I get the money, I'll buy her the best
I'll take Rose, you can have all the rest.

CHORUS

CHANGE TO F:
REPEAT CHORUS

Note. Recorded in Eb.

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Shanti
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 05:34 PM

I wonder how Burton Lane and Alan Lerner's names became associated with Second Hand Rose. That 1921 publishing date puts it too early for either one of them. They were around, but were either doing any composing at the time. Maybe they did an arrangement and added some lyrics for the version of it that Streisand sang in FUNNY GIRL.

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: Art Thieme
Date: 19 Aug 00 - 11:38 PM

Back in the dirty thirties, my uncle used to run the streets at night--siphoning winos. It was second hand Rose.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: alison
Date: 20 Aug 00 - 03:06 AM

told you they were a nice helpful crowd didn't I Ronaldo... *grin*

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: GUEST,Obie
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 02:05 AM

While watching the OPRY tonight it would seem that Roy Drusky has departed this world. More sad news .................

Subject: RE: Second Hand Rose
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 03:38 AM

FOR SALE:

One Second Hand Shower Rose - Brass.

Subject: Chord Req: Second Hand Rose (Streisand)
From: Genie
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 03:41 AM

Can someone post the chords for the Second-Hand Rose from the 1920s -- the one used in "Funny Girl," please?

(Preferably in a key that doesn't use chords that require 6 fingers on your left hand.) ;-D

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Second Hand Rose
From: Art Thieme
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 11:29 AM

Seven years ago I devised a pun on this song title that I posted above. Here and now, in 2007, I've noticed that siphoning "winos" to secure this beverage is deemed to be unnatural abuse of "ill people" who have rights not to be belittled, and therefore, diminished.

So be it!



But it's still funny...
Art

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Second Hand Rose
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:49 PM

"Second Hand Rose" sheet music, 1921, available at Levy
Second Hand Rose

Composed by Grant Clarke, music by James F. Hanley; sung by Fanny Brice, Ziegfield Follies.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Second Hand Rose
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:54 PM

Sorry, have to use this one to link:
Second Hand Rose

Subject: Lyrics/Chords: Second Hand Rose (from Funny Girl)
From: Genie
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 12:58 PM

Good one, Art! LOL

(Kind of brings to mind Neil Diamond's song "Cracklin' Rosie.")

Q, thanks for the link to the sheet music. I'll check to see if it has guitar chords. If not, I still have to figure out what they are, even after playing the melody.   (Though I took 4 years of piano lessons, I quit a few years before I took up guitar, and I never really learned to "name" piano chords - I just played them from the notes.)   

The sheet music should help me remember the tune to the intro, though.


Since the sheet music is from 1921, dare I hope that this song is in public domain by now (provided that I work from a version published before 1922?)

Subject: Chord request: Second Hand Rose
From: Genie
Date: 08 Sep 07 - 01:12 PM

The sheet music is neat, with fancy Ziegfield Follies artwork on the cover, but it has no guitar chords, so I'd still like to find a simple arrangement for guitar if someone has one.

Thanks

Subject: Lyr Add: SECOND HAND ROSE (Clarke, Hanley)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 10:44 PM

Here's my transcription from the sheet music at the Levy Collection:

SECOND HAND ROSE
Words, Grant Clarke. Music, James F. Hanley.
New York : Shapiro, Bernstein & Co., 1921.
Sung by Fanny Brice in The Ziegfeld Follies of 1921.

VERSE 1: Father has a bus'ness, strictly second-hand,
Ev'rything from toothpicks to a baby grand.
Stuff in our apartment came from father's store.
Even things I'm wearing someone wore before.
It's no wonder that I feel abused.
I never have a thing that ain't been used.

CHORUS 1: I'm wearing second-hand hats, second-hand clothes.
That's why they call me Second-Hand Rose.
Even our piano in the parlor
Father bought for ten cents on the dollar.
Second-hand pearls, I'm wearing second-hand curls.
I never get a single thing that's new.
Even Jake the plumber--he's the man I adore--
He had the nerve to tell me he's been married before!
Everyone knows that I'm just Second-Hand Rose
From Second Avenue!

VERSE 2: Each one in the fam'ly kicks the whole day long.
Ev'ryone's disgusted. Ev'rything is wrong.
Second-handed doggie, second-handed cat,
Second-handed welcome, second-handed mat.
I think father's head is made of wood.
He brings home lots of things that ain't no good.

CHORUS 2: Second-hand shoes, second-hand hose,
All the girls hand me their second-hand beaux.
Even my pajamas when I don 'em
Have somebody else's 'nitials on 'em.
Second-hand rings, I'm sick of second-hand things.
I never get what other girlies do.
Once while strolling through the Ritz a girl got my goat.
She nudged her friend and said, "Oh, look! There's my old fur coat!"
Everyone knows that I'm just Second-Hand Rose
From Second Avenue!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Second Hand Rose
From: Genie
Date: 10 Sep 07 - 12:32 AM

Nice lyric transcription, Jim.

Now if someone can put guitar chords in the appropriate spots ...


:)

G