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Logan English's Story?

Mark Clark 21 Aug 00 - 02:37 PM
Bill D 21 Aug 00 - 06:48 PM
Mike Regenstreif 21 Aug 00 - 07:02 PM
Stewie 21 Aug 00 - 07:30 PM
GUEST,Allan S 21 Aug 00 - 09:32 PM
GUEST,Stefan Wirz 18 Mar 03 - 03:55 AM
GUEST,AllanS. 18 Mar 03 - 12:45 PM
Mark Clark 18 Mar 03 - 04:09 PM
Bill D 19 Mar 03 - 11:02 AM
JJ 20 Mar 03 - 06:55 AM
GUEST,louisville 05 Sep 08 - 02:49 PM
GUEST,James 13 Sep 08 - 06:00 PM
Thomas Stern 13 Sep 08 - 07:23 PM
Thomas Stern 13 Sep 08 - 07:37 PM
John on the Sunset Coast 13 Sep 08 - 08:21 PM
GUEST,christine lavin 04 Mar 10 - 09:23 PM
LadyJean 05 Mar 10 - 09:04 PM
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Subject: Logan English's Story?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 02:37 PM

Something in another thread got me thinking about Logan English. He had some wonderful recordings available when I was first trying to learn some folk music and I never heard anything of him again. Somebody once told me he was in Chicago for a while but I don't remember ever meeting him or hfearing of any live performance. There are a half dozen threads here in which his name is mentioned. Art Thieme and Dan Keding (related by marriage) exchanged some information but there aren't enought details to put together a story.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 06:48 PM

hmmm...I thought for sure I was one of those posts..I was sure I had asked once if anyone had a copy of "Logan English Sings the Woodie Gurhrie Songbag"....which I foolishly loaned out many years ago....WONDERFUL record, and I'd like to have it, or a tape....

I'll be interested to see what happens in this thread, as I never had anything else by him


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Mike Regenstreif
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 07:02 PM

Logan was a singer, poet, playwright and actor from Kentucky. He was most active as a folksinger the late-50s and early-60s. He made records for the Folkways and Riverside.

I knew him in the '70s when he was living in Saratoga Springs, NY, where I hung out some in those years. In 1973 or '74, I brought him up to Montreal (about 200 miles north of Saratoga) to play a concert at Dawson College. He did mostly traditional material. "Roving Gambler" and "Old Blue" stick in my mind. By that time, his alchoholism prevented him from really pursuing much of a concert schedule.

Logan was killed a few years later when he was hit by a car walking in Saratoga late at night.

Mike Regenstreif


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Stewie
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 07:30 PM

One of the first American folk-type records that I ever bought was by Logan English. The cover has fallen to bits, but the record still plays. It was on a label called 'Monitor': Logan English 'American Folk Ballads'. The songs included 'Muleskinner Blues', 'Shenandoah', 'Pretty Saro', 'The Dewy Dens of Yarrow', 'Mole in the Ground', 'Kentucky Moonshiner', Red Clay Country' and others. I recall my favourite at the time was his beaut rendition of 'Buck-eye Jim'. He was helped out by Eric Weissberg, Marshall Brickman and Martin Lorin - I have never come across the latter two elsewhere. The cover gives little biographical information apart from the fact that he was born in Henderson, Kentucky, and reared in Bourbon County.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,Allan S
Date: 21 Aug 00 - 09:32 PM

I knew Logan many years ago at the Yale Hoots in the 1950's, Great singer. somewhere I have tapes I made of him singing at the Hoots. Logan did have one problem and that was his borrowing peoples versions of a song and claiming it as his own. I remember him saying " I'm using your version of Geordie, I hope you dont mind. " Later Joan Biez sang it on one of her records saying "I learned this from Logan English" Oh well. Yes there was quite a bit of heavy drinking in those days but I did't know that it had gotton out of control with him. A great loss. Somewhere I have a 10" folkways? of him singing. just found it. Bangum and the boar, East VA. Little Cory Bold robingtons courtship etc. etc. rest in peace Logan


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,Stefan Wirz
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 03:55 AM

Logan English discography online - anything to add ?


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,AllanS.
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 12:45 PM

Does anyone remember what happened to Anne Bird who was on the "Folksongs of Washington Square" record I am trying to locate her.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 18 Mar 03 - 04:09 PM

Seeing this old thread pop up made me realize I hadn't come back to thank everyone for the great information. THANKS!

Bill, I think I have a copy of the Guthrie Songbag album but I seem to have lost my copy of the gambling songs. Maybe we can work out an arrangement sometime.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Mar 03 - 11:02 AM

yup!..maybe so...let me know. I don't have the gambling songs, but I have a lot of other old 'stuff' from 25-35 years ago...


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: JJ
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 06:55 AM

Marshall Brickman went into movies, most notably in collaboration with Woody Allen with whom he shared the Oscar for Best Original Screenplay of 1977 for ANNIE HALL.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,louisville
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 02:49 PM

I have all of these. They have innoculated me for 29 years.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,James
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 06:00 PM

I went to summer camp in the Berkshires in the early '60's, and Logan English was the guitar teacher/ resident folkie. He had a beautiful voice, and was the real, authentic item. We all really looked up to him. I still remember his great guitar licks and lyrical style. So sorry to hear he's gone.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 07:23 PM

here is a link to the Smithsonian/Folkways site
http://www.folkways.si.edu/searchresults.aspx?sPhrase=logan%20english&sType='phrase'

these recordings are available from them or your local friendly CAMSCO dealer. (-:

Best wishes, Thomas.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 07:37 PM

also a good discography on the Wirz site:
http://www.wirz.de/music/englfrm.htm


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 08:21 PM

You google your Logan English, I google mine.

Logan English


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,christine lavin
Date: 04 Mar 10 - 09:23 PM

I lived at Lena Spencer's from October 75 to Feb or March of 76 -- Logan was friends with Lena. I rmember he invited her (and I guess I tagged along) to a dinner party for a couple who had just gotten married. I can't remember their names now. Logan was a really good cook -- a fancy cook. I put something on my plate that I thought was a creamed onion, and then when I put it in my mouth . . . it was kinda rubbery and funny tasting . . . I didn't know anybody and I was in awe of Logan, and I heard somebody talk about the oysters he had cooked -- it was an oyster in my mouth and I didn't know what to do. It was like a squeezy rubber ball. I kept chewing and there was one moment where I wasn't sure which direction it was going to go -- down my throat or out my mouth. But this was a fancy dinner and it took all my self control to swallow it and not gag.

To this day I can't even look at an oyster without remembering how that felt -- am I going to swallow this or I am about to ruin this newlywed couple's dinner party thrown by Logan English. Isn't it crazy the stuff you remember? By the time I knew him he was well into the bottle, and a lot of people shook their heads at what they thought was the career he threw away. He was a sweet, sad guy. With a beautiful voice.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: LadyJean
Date: 05 Mar 10 - 09:04 PM

He made a record with Folk Legacy. I hadn't thought of him in years.
He was a friend of my cousin Miss Katherine Caldwell of Lexington, who introduced me to John Jacob Niles. I will be thinking of Cousin Kitty for the rest of the evening.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,Cristina in Mexico
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 09:59 PM

Logan English was a good friend of mine, back in the late 60s-early 70s. He often stayed at my house. My then-husband and I, along with another couple, traveled the Eastern USA folk music circuit and sang at festivals from New York State to Southeastern Missouri, many times with Logan also on the bill.

By the time I knew Logan, he was a terrible alcoholic. When he was sober, he was a gentle, funny, sweet man with a still-beautiful voice. When he was in his cups, he lost lyrics on stage, had a hard time entertaining an audience, and generally made a mess of things.

Most of us who knew him just before he died believe that he was hopelessly in love with a woman who shall remain nameless and that his depression over her inaccessibility, his inability to let go of the bottle, and his general hopelessness about life led him to walk deliberately into the path of an oncoming car.

Terrible loss, wonderful man. Godspeed.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Mark Ross
Date: 19 Dec 12 - 10:07 PM

I remember him and Bill Staines yodeling in harmony at the Saratoga Springs Folk Festival, would've been '74 or '75.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: Elmore
Date: 20 Dec 12 - 03:00 PM

Bill Staines speaks fondly of Logan in his memoir, "The Tour." I was fortunate to see him perform at Gerde's Folk City in New York in the early seventies. (I think) I remember him as being charming as well as well as talented. Too bad about the drinking.


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Subject: RE: Logan English's Story?
From: GUEST,Bill Hansen
Date: 05 Jun 14 - 07:55 PM

Back in the late '60's or early '70's, Logan taught some guitar classes at the Old Town School of Folk Music in Chicago. I think he left town shortly after.


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