BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency

Subject: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 01:41 PM

Just found this on the 'Net. Looks like JC-SuperStar is going to run against Bush and Gore. Just CLICK HERE to read the exclusive scoop!**BG**

NOI

kat

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Mbo
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 01:45 PM

Why did you feel the need to post this crap? Guess not enough people were being insulted today.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Bert
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 01:47 PM

LMAO, great one kat!!!

Mbo, it's supposed to be FUNNY. Dammit it IS funny.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 01:55 PM

Sorry, Mbo. I thought it was funny too. James Carville as JC's campaign manager?

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: paddymac
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:00 PM

Dang it, Kat, I can't get to the server for your BCT. PLease tell me it's true. Jim Croce for Pres? Whoopee!

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:04 PM

FYI Christ Announces His Bid for President

Campaign strategists for both major parties were stunned this week as Jesus Christ announced His resignation from His post as Savior to over 1 billion Christians in order to make time for a run at the White House. Sources close to the Son of God say he has not yet decided whether he will run on the Reform Party ticket or as an independent. Shortly after the surprise announcement, Republican candidate George Bush began questioning Christ's experience record, citing that the Messiah has yet to serve on any celestial government in any function whatsoever except for a brief stint as a Wyoming state congressman in 1983. Bush also tempered remarks he had made earlier in the campaign regarding his acceptance of Jesus as his Lord and Savior. "Though I have accepted Jesus into my heart, I don't agree with His economically liberal viewpoint. I want to give hard-working citizens back their money. I want to tell Washington that Americans are tired of seeing government grow." But others have come out in support of the man affectionately known to millions of Americans as "The Lamb of God". The deeply Catholic Ted Kennedy expressed his approval of Christ's decision within hours of the official announcement. "I am big man! Big fat naked man!" he told reporters on Thursday. Vice President Gore was not available for comment because he was kidnapped by ninjas. Other questions have been raised by various political analysts in the wake of Christ's plunge into the election, particularly regarding the character issue. Christ was convicted of disturbing the peace in 33 B.C. by the Roman Empire. Perhaps more damaging are photos which have recently surfaced, dating sometime in the late 70s, showing Jesus holding a giant marijuana bud in what is presumed to be His basement nursery. The Messiah has repeatedly declined to comment on the photos, saying that the American people are weary of negative campaigns. "And I say unto thee, that if it is in one of you men to casteth forth the first stone, then verily, cast it indeed," He told reporters at a campaign stop in Nebraska. "Besides, everybody knows Bush did coke. Go pick on him." Perhaps the most damaging component of Christ's image is that He is still seen by many voters as a liberal. In "The New Testament", written by political supporters of the Son of God, Jesus proclaims His health care plan in which every sick American will be brought before Him and healed by His divine powers of transmutation. This is a step to the left of Clinton's health policy. Also, Jesus talks funny. Critics have pointed out that Christ's sudden bid for the presidency was made only a week after Lucifer, Lord of Darkness and former Austin city councilman , announced his entrance into the campaign. Christ and Lucifer have been political adversaries for centuries. Lucifer, who has gone by the names Beelzebub, Satan, and Barbara Streisand, is running as the Mandatory HIV-Infusion Party candidate. The Messiah's entrance into the elections has sparked off several notable squabbles. Last week, Green Party candidate Ralph Nader made an appearance on the Larry King Show in which he accused the Kingdom of God, a non-incorporated quasi-mystical organization which is known to be funding Jesus' campaign, of violating a variety of national trade laws; the public backlash against Mr. Nader was overwhelming until a few days later, when he produced videos of underpaid cherubim working 12-hour days in substandard conditions at a Kingdom sweatshop producing cheep bric-a-brac angel figurines. Yahweh, an all-powerful, all-knowing deity who has commanded the Kingdom since eternity (with only one brief leave of absence when He got into real-estate and investment banking in the 80s), denied any knowledge of the sweatshop conditions at until a reporter pointed out that His ability to know all things made it impossible for him not to have known, at which point God said he was just kidding and that he had known about the sweatshops all along, but they weren't really sweatshops, they were something else, good things, or words to that effect. The next day He ran a full-page explanatory ad in the New York Times and had the reporter stoned to death. Christ 2000 campaign manager James Carville told reporters at a recent press conference that the voters are interested in "true reform and real progress, not stale leadership from Washington insiders", and that he hoped to wage an upbeat campaign. Then he shot himself up with an insanely large amount of crystal meth and began throwing nearby objects at reporters until he was subdued and ritually beheaded by security. Everyone saw it coming.

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Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:06 PM

I'd like to be considered for the Veep slot. I mean I have had experience what with the "Holy Shit Falwell" and all..............Hey!! Maybe I oughta' just throw my hat and my garage wall into the ring.......Whaddaya think?

Good find kat!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: kendall
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:06 PM

I'm a professional humorist and I dont think its funny either. Clever, maybe, not funny. For once, I agree with the kid. Besides, how could Jesus be convicted of anything in 33 BC?

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Mbo
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:07 PM

Well it's about time we agreed on something!

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Bert
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:11 PM

Well I can see George Bush not agreeing with 'His economically liberal viewpoint'. That IS funny.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: kendall
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:11 PM

hey, I'm big enough to take the first step! Dont mind me Mbo, I'm having a real bad day

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:12 PM

I am so glad you two have finally found something to agree on. Now how about a rousing duet of "Hey Jude" to celebrate the occasion?

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:15 PM

Kendall,
I am sorry Pete took his banjo back. But don't let that spoil your day. Anything serious or just PMS?
Mary, half joking.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:43 PM

Congratulations to Barrett. His account is almost as hilarious as the real election campaign. Jesus is so extremely liberal that I feel sure the conservative forces in America would arrange to have him done away with a whole lot faster than their counterparts in ancient Palestine did...in the event he ever became President of the USA.

Of course, they don't mind invoking his name frequently, as long as he stays safely within the pages of the Bible and doesn't rock the boat. Miracles are okay with them too...as long as they're a couple of thousand years in the past.

Sorry this stuff upsets you, Mbo. I have a whole lot of respect for Jesus, but not much for the religious right.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 02:57 PM

Now look here....I think I'm one helluva compromise candidate. I'm about to start managing Sinsull on her "Psychic Psychotic" scam and it ought to give me some infomercial acumen......I think the Falwell thing makes me attractive to that wing and I don't have any cigars so my character is unblemished. And Nader is bound to throw his support to me since I refused to work on Corvairs many years ago.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Morticia
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 03:06 PM

Laugh? I thought my pants would never dry!......thanks Kat.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 03:15 PM

I'm surprised nobody brought up JC's habit of consorting with prostitutes -- it's well documented, as is his fondness for alcoholic beverages (evidently he was responsible for some serious binge-drinking at a wedding in Cana), his insistence on practicing medicine without a license, and his negative campaigning against the Pharisees. There was also the time he was seen kissing one of his "disciples" late one night -- there were several witnesses to that one. This could get a whole lot uglier; the guy definitely has some explaining to do.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 03:33 PM

Corvairs?? Some of my finest college days were spent cruising around in a Corvair convertible. Although I loved my little white bug the best. I had to go back to the top to remember what this thread is about.

On a serious note, although the campaign theme makes me laugh and the humor escapes Kendall and Mbo, I wonder if it downright offends someone like Praise. If we haven't already gone too far and I will suggest moderation.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Mbo
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 03:54 PM

I'm downright offended! And if you think I'm being immature, I have this great essay on the Dalai Lama's new job as a male stripper. Loads o' laughs! But I'm not laughing.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 04:03 PM

NOI=No Offense Intended

The thread IS labelled BS

I ONLY put the LINK in...ya didn't have to follow it, nor continue reading it once ya got there...

And, Sinsull, thanks for posting it for those who couldn't access it.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Mbo
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 04:05 PM

Well you had that misleading line about Jesus Christ Superstar, I though it was going to be about the musical (which I love). And I've never ever seen NOI before. Thought it stood for North of Ireland.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 04:12 PM

Geeziz Meebo, you got something on the DL as a stripper?.....Post it man!!! Why jerry falweel appeared on my garage wall in fart blast and I posted that! As soon as I can track down that story of Madilyn Murray O'Hare being gang raped in a Buddhist temple, you know I'll share.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: DougR
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 04:12 PM

I'll go with Kendall on this one. Clever, maybe, funny? Sorry, I fail to see the humor. Kendall, glad you spotted the BC bit. Maybe that's why the kid is no longer going to U of T. DougR

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 04:18 PM

I love the musical, too, Mbo, among those of us who were around when it came out, it became a habit to just refer to Jesus the Christ, as well as the musical, as "JCsuperstar", at least in my neck of the woods. We can talk about it, if you want.

I knew I should have explained NOI...it's an old one we don't use much anymore around here.

****CREEP ALERT****

MBO, I GOT YOUR TAPE TODAY AND I LOVE IT!! Well-done, nice mixing and good choices. I just saw Chris LeDeux's version of "Five Dollar Fine" on tv the other night and it was a hoot. THANKS!

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: thosp
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 06:50 PM

i'm still for Nader at this point --although i'm very interested in Christs' candidacy -- one of my first thoughts are that - although i greatly admire and respect His( Christs') positions and actions circa ? to 33 AD - i have to ask myself "what has He done lately?" -- are his positions still the same? ---- is He prolife or prochoice --- how much would he render unto Cesar? --- would he ask the military to turn the other cheek? -- also i have scoured the testaments and i find that Christ is ominously silent about enviormental issues -- ------ these are questions that beg to be answered ! ----- so i remain for Nader/LeDuke ---- and i worry that Christs' candidacy will hurt Nader ---- as for Lucifer --- it's time to vote his minions out of office!!!

peace (Y) thosp

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: GUEST,Luther
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 07:06 PM

yeah, Thosp, I'm sticking with Nader too. Christ's social policies are appealing, but then there's his appalling environmental record (cursing the barren fig, an archetypical "wise use" attitude, and wholly at odds with Aldo Leopold's view of "forest as a community").

And, of course, the callous and grotesque act of animal cruelty in the incident of the Gadarene swine...

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 08:05 PM

Hey, come on guys! Those were different times. Pigs didn't rate too high in Galilee. JC did the best he could in a very trying situation. Don't pull the Judas routine and betray him now. Put the saviour in the Oval Office and do it with panache! He'll beat them swords into plowshares quicker than Spaw can change his underwear!

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 08:08 PM

very doubtful Hawkster...........Spaw don't wear no underwear.

Spaw -- hangin' free

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 09:10 PM

Well, guys, Auntie Scorch checking in here, finally. For better or worse, I see both sides of this situation. I can see where this would not be funny to some people, but I think Praise might just think it is. She has no use at all for hypocrites, she just believes in what JC REALLY was/is. On the other hand, the Religious Right has seriously twisted what Jesus REALLY MEANT. Actually, this is sarcasm at it's best, which not everyone gets, or finds funny even if they do. Sarcasm is especially difficult in a print only situation.

But, think about this: If Jesus REALLY was to show up and run for Prez of US (or any other country for that matter), what would happen? He was not slow to point fingers at the Establishment of the time, and look what they did to him-----anybody here want to volunteer to be hung on a cross alive? Whether he died for someones' sins is a moot point--he did exist, he did have a LOT of valid points, and he did die in agony on a "tree". Just what, exactly, would the World 2000 DO with this philosophy if it were presented as new tomorrow?

(sometimes I hate being able to see both sides of a story)This really should only offend Christian Fanatics, which I am VERY afraid of, but sadly it has the capability to offend any person who calls him/her self Christian.

Am I going to be sorry I posted this? I swore to myself I would not DO the contriversial stuff, after the last time around, but "Into the breach......."

kat, I am glad I had a chance to read it, thanks for posting it. And kendall/Mbo, I do understand what you both mean and where you are coming from. Problem is that modern Christianity has moved VERY VERY far from what Jesus actually did say, if MMLJ can be believed at all. They are even at odds with each other, let alone the Apocryphyal gospelists, such as Thomas.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 09:42 PM

Re: environmental issues. Didn't he walk on the sea of Galilee to protest the extent of the pollution?

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: paddymac
Date: 22 Aug 00 - 11:24 PM

Kudos to Sinsull for picking "Hey Jude" as a duet for Kendall & Mbo. It might be the perfect campaign song for JC. After all, Jude is fondly known as the patron saint of lost causes. (*BG*)

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 12:55 AM

I suppose if I want to spend the next hour sorting out a whole range of complicated feelings about this subject, I might come up with someting useful to say.

But that's the point. When you push people's buttons, thinking you will get a laugh, you may only accomplish hitting a a button.

I think good humor does not begin with mockery. Mockery is not an accurate missile to aim at buttons. It splashes all over any buttons available.

Great, another opportunity to practice forgiveness.

Thanks for the opportunity to do what Jesus did while He was being mocked-- "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 01:24 AM

In my oh-so-humble :~) opinion, that satire is not mocking Jesus, it is doing a number on political types and patterns. And I think it's funny. Can't imagine a God without a sense of humor- where do you think we get ours?

Ebbie

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 06:26 AM

This along with Monty Python's gentle satire, 'The Life of Brian', is only mocking us. If it not good humour to mock ourselves, then there will be no humour at all.

We all have different tastes in all things and what makes us laugh, is no exception. Long may this be so….

I hear that the 'Tooth Fairy' is thinking of mounting a campaign, but is just sleeping on it, at the moment…….

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Amergin
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 07:15 AM

Yeah but Mbo probably finds Life of Brian offensive....

I find both hilarious personally....

Spaw, I think you're too late for your bid for vice-presidency.....hear he chose LTS. I guess he likes hairy women......

Amergin

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: kendall
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 10:45 AM

Just for the record, I am not offended by the overall concept, as I said, it is clever, but, to me, not funny. Life of Brian was not their best work, yet I did think that was funny. It in no way mocked Christianity. If it had, I would have been offended.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: SDShad
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 12:44 PM

I don't think it mocked Christian spirituality at all, at least not in any meaningful way that touches my experience as a Christian, and certainly mocked George Dubya and Ted Kennedy (admittedly, easy if deserving targets) more than anything else. If it mocks Jesus at all, it does so certainly a lot less than, say, South Park. Does it tweak Institutional Christianity (at least the Christian Right) a little bit? Yeah. And this is a bad thing?

That said, it was kinda funny. Not roll-on-the-floor hilarious, but kinda funny. Especially the Ted Kennedy "big fat naked man" bit.

What about it did ya find offensive about it, Meebs? (And may I just take this moment while I have the floor to say I got my tape this week too. I'm getting bits of it at at time in the van, the only tape player I'm around much right now, and am digging it--good Roddy McCorley, especially.)

Chris

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Kim C
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 03:22 PM

It made me grin. :)

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Jim Krause
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 04:21 PM

I think I'll take the next boat to Holland and leave this place to its own destiny, thenkyewverrymuch Soddy

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Peter T.
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 05:26 PM

Mudcat Wired Service: -- Tenzin Gyatso (rhymes with "is that nutso or what so?"), the 14th Dalai Lama announced today that he was indeed taking a leave of absence to become a male stripper, known as Thunderbolt (Dorjeling). Said the revered figure: "I am a simple monk, what have I got to hide? Furthermore, Avolakitesvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion, works in strange ways." Current plans are to open at the Vimilakirti Bar and Grill in Tucson sometime before the arrival of Manjusri, the Buddha of the Future.

Questioned about his motives at a packed press conference, His Holiness referred to significant passages in the Madhyamika scriptures and the Heart Sutra which made reference to "no self, no body", and chuckled when he suggested that he might prove a disappointment, since he was not as young as he once was. "In Buddhism we sometimes meditate on the image of our rotting bodies, filled with pus and covered in worms, so as to prevent temptation and lust. I urge all audiences to do the same, and will endeavour to promote such images in my future work." He had high hopes for a routine with yak butter he had been working up for some time to verses from the Tibetan Book of the Dead. His agent, Lama Longchem Rabjampa said that it had "wowed them" at the Dharamasala Holiday Inn during previews.

When he was asked if he would share a ticket with Jesus Christ, currently making a run at the American Presidency, the Dalai Lama said that in The Middle Way, balance was everything, but he wanted to concentrate for the moment on his new career. At this point he stopped and concentrated for a moment on his new career. Then he hegan again.

Spokeswoman Mary Magdalene for the Jesus camp said that His Holiness was a serious contender for the Veep nod, but He was not seen to be "Judeo-Christian" enough, and two non-violent canditates on the same ticket would cause problems with the impending resurgence of the Star Wars defence proposal, and the need to win industrial states with substantial defence contracts. She did point out that she herself had at one time been a stripper, and it had done her career no harm. "What do the Buddhists say? -- "Let me be a raft to bear all the suffering of all beings away" -- Our campaign can go with that. Stay tuned."

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 06:13 PM

I bow in humble obeisance to your inimitable style, Peter....may lotus blossums cushion your sleep...HHDL's got my vote!

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 06:54 PM

Sorry to burst all your bubbles, but for Jesus to run he'd have to be born an American. And as many Americans that I know to be born again Chistians, I have never heard of one Christ who was a born again American.

Spaw, you'll just have to ascend to the top of the ticket, with both Mbo and Kendall as co-veeps. You know, to balance the ticket.

And as the band plays "Hello, Dolly", out steps the holy man himself, clad only in lotus blossom and a big grin. . .

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 08:37 PM

And the wimmin are passed over, AGAIN!!!

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 08:56 PM

Well, I call myself a Christian, and I thought the piece kat linked to (click) was pretty funny. What I do find offensive is those people who call themselves "Christians," and spend a good deal of their money buying TV time so they can impose their point of view on the rest of the world. Publicity is fine, but I'd like to think they'd be more effective if they spent some of that TV money on more charitable activities.
People have come to think that Christianity is just another commodity sold on television. I think there's something wrong with that. It also gives a very unbalanced image of Chrsitianity. There are many of us Christians who are dedicated to fighting for the rights of women and workers and homosexuals and the poor.
But I think that Jesus would get a good laugh out of the piece that Kat linked to. I think He must have had a pretty good sense of humor.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 10:46 PM

Well done Peter!!

Do any of you remember that the great 20th century philosopher, Leonard A. Schneider, had a long dissertation on Christ and Moses landing a Idlewild and driving through the worst of NYC to arrive at St. Patrick's Cathedral and meet the Pope? They see people living in the streets, kids with no shoes or proper clothes, schools falling apart.........and the splendor of the Pope's vestments and rings and jewelery and St. Pat's glorious appointments?. It was a trmendous piece of work..............funny too! (Leonard A. Schneider=Lenny Bruce, Stand-Up Philosopher)

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 11:03 PM

As I recall, Lenny raffled a Catholic Church,too. But he was fair--he ridculed EVERYBODY!

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: ceitagh
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 11:09 PM

(I tried to post this earlier, but my connection faltered and i've only now come back on.)

IMHO, Peter does much better satire than the articles author. I have to side with Kendall on this one...the idea was clever, but the humor was poorly executed. And just for the record:

I *hate* the term 'religious right'!! If ever there was a more convenient, consistently misused and abused label, I have yet to hear of it. Its almost as bad as 'radical feminist' another oft used tarbrush. When will we understand that these labels only divide, and as long as we continue to label and disregard those we disagree with, we'll never find out what truth and wisdom they might have! Sorch, i'm far more offended by what you posted here than by anything in the original article, the assumptions inherent in your writing leaves me sad. That said, there is very little more i feel i can say on the topic that would actually sink in and make an impact. I have talked to enough walls in my short life.

Ceitagh
just another Christian fanatic

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 11:09 PM

Actually Sorcha, the bit was that the Oldsmobile dealers got together and raffled off a 1958 Catholic Church.....a line I have used a lot!!! But I do try to credit Lenny with it.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 11:19 PM

Jeez, Kat, you're absolutely right. Some campaign strategist I turned out to be. Some guy of the 90's, too. And I had begun to think I had freed myself of gender-bias. I hereby resign in shame to my ranch at San Cemente to ponder my foibles. Spaw will have to choose as many veeps as he needs to correct this horrible oversight.

Subject: RE: BS: JC Makes a Bid for the US Presidency
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Aug 00 - 11:35 PM

Too right, Barthlomew, and how many chicks have you got at the ranch in San Clemente, huh?**BG**

If anyone really wants to read an incredible book, takes about an hour, written by an Episcopal priest and one of the most brilliant books ever written, IMO, please get The Allelujia Affair author's last name is Boyd.

All of the Jesus' on all of the crucifixes around the world come a life and off of thier crosses to walk among the people. The people get totally freaked out and more. It is without doubt one of the most profound books I've ever read and one I will always count among my "have to keep" treasures.

I did not link the original piece, written by an 18 year old remember, because of any anti-Christian stance nor because I am non-Christian. I didn't take it that way when I read it, either.

I would like to say, I think those of us who are not Christian have been fairly restrained in recounting all of the times Christianity has taken potshots at whatever it is we believe in, including on this website.

Most recently, in a couple of other threads, things that I have a deep spiritual feeling for have been ridiculed up one side and down the other, but it has been by people whom I consider to be family/friends; people whom I respect, so I took it in the fun that it was posted in and didn't get upset.

Remember, when we get upset at someone else, it is ourselves and our physiology, as well as our emotional health which suffers, not that of the other person. Sometimes it is not worth the upset, esp. as those effects can be long-term and not show up for years.

Lately, it seems we've all been too hyper-sensitive, myself included, and that our senses of humour and taking things *lightly*, as intended, have suffered. Perhaps we should try for more of a balance between taking things so seriously and being totally silly.

Anyone wanna go tiptoe through the tulips with me? hey! It's virtual, I can have tulips in August if I want!

katlaughing