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Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song

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Amergin 29 Aug 00 - 03:23 PM
Peter T. 29 Aug 00 - 03:29 PM
catspaw49 30 Aug 00 - 12:13 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: RIVER (Bill Staines)
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 01:35 AM

I will choose to save Bill Staines' River. I love what it says.

I was born in the path of the winter wind
Raised where the mountains are old
The springtime waters came dancing down
And I remember the tales they told.

The whistling ways of my younger days
Too swiftly have faded on by
But all of my memories linger on
Like the light in a fading sky.

Chorus:

River, take me along. In your sunshine, sing me your song
Ever moving and winding and free
You rolling old river, you changing old river
Let's you and me, River, run down to the sea

Well, I've been to the city and back again
Been moved by some things that I've learned
Met a lot of good people and I call them friends
Felt the change as the seasons turned

I heard all the songs that the children sing
And listened to love's melodies
Felt my own music within me rise
Like the wind in the autumn trees

Some day when the flowers are blooming still
Some day when the grass is still green
The rolling waters will round me bend
And flow in to the open sea

So here's to the rainbow that's followed me here
And here's to the friends that I know
And here's to the song that's within me now
I will sing it where'er I go.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Big Mick
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 09:01 AM

I can't believe no one has beat me to the punch on this one. Because it unites generations, because to me it's chorus represents for me my bond with the land of my grandparents, because it is just a wonderful song, and because I will never forget the first time I heard a recording of Mother Maybelle singing it with Doc Watson playing and singing on it...............Will The Circle Be Unbroken. And Sandy, I would love to sing this at the Getaway if I can make it.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: LR Mole
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 11:22 AM

I nominate the melody of Gregorian chant, because it would echo and harmonise with itself so nicely around the caves. It would be difficult to separate from the R.C. lyrics, I suppose, but the tune is worth preserving.(Creep, creep...) if we're mentioning Something Wicked This Way Comes, I toss in the book Dandelion Wine: same author, and the sunny other half of Bradbury's middle American boyhood magic. Harder to find than it should be, but what isn't?


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 11:44 AM

This is intriguing. What would the musical equivalent of a "fireman" be I wonder? a "tuner" perhaps!

can I make a bid for "Hooks and Nets" as we'll probably need to keep alive the poachers arts while lurking in the forest


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: CamiSu
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 02:41 PM

Only one? Not fair! (My friend has--I think--9 books of Milton in his head now. Sometimes makes it a bit difficult for anything else to lodge there.)

My first thought was Kilkelly, for the story of going away and never coming home. THen Harriet Tubman with its highly political 3rd verse. My youngest asks for it often. NOT The Cat Came Back, I'll let HIM learn that one. Rabbitrunning took my wedding song, and that bit of history. But I think it might be Swing Low, because my Dad and I used to sing it in the car, and I sang it at his funeral. Hope in a difficult situation.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Amergin
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 03:23 PM

Actually, Wandering Minstrel, the song equivalent of a fireman would be bodhran player....


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Aug 00 - 03:29 PM

Great idea. One thing that the movie (horrible boring movie) did was to emphasize that the people began turning into the books, presumably because they were concentrating on it so much. I knew a famous Hungarian poet (George Faludy) who was thrown into a concentration camp, and his friends who were also in the camp all memorized his poems so they would not be lost if he died. There was a reunion some years ago, where all these 70 year olds stood up and finally recited their memorized poems to the poet on his birthday. I was not there, but I was told by someone who was that the men sat there gasping and wheezing -- not because they were drunk (though they got drunk later) -- but because, as one of them said, our hearts were so full that we could not breathe, we all thought we were going to die of heart attacks or too much crying for our pride before the night was out.

My problem is that the song I would pick would have to have the original accompaniment and players to really work. So I guess I would have my body micro-implanted or something. I would pick "She Loves You" by the Beatles for sheer exuberance, and the outbreak of something new in the world. If someone told me I could never hear it again, I am sure I would sit down and cry like a baby, and if other people never got the chance --

My dutiful second choice would be Beethoven's Ode To Joy, just because if that was lost, it would be a sin against humankind. I don't even like it that much anymore. But still, duty calls.

I think it was Anton Rubenstein who when he knew he was going blind in the last years of his life sat down and read Ulysses and one or two other books.

I wonder what this competition would be like if you said: O.K. you will be permanently deaf starting tonight midnight. What would you listen to in the few hours remaining, for the last time (I don't mean to thread creep, just doing some variations)? Now that is scary.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:13 AM

I'm impressed so far.....Just what I was after. Not the best or most significant, but certainly worthy for a wide variety of reasons............Next?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 01:28 AM

Catspaw, yer as stingy as can be. I refuse to try to remember just one song (do I have to forget all the rest?) If I remember Bob Gibson's "Abilene"--the one I'd choose for its yearning for home to help keep the revolutionary spirit alive--would I have to forget "The Overflowing Catbox Blues" and and "I Ain't Got No Home" and "All You Need Is Love" and "Me and Bobby McGee" and "Careless Love" and "Just a Closer Walk with Thee" (done bluesy) and "Every Night when the Sun Goes In"? Or "Battle Hymn of the Republic" or "How Can I Keep from Singing?" or "Hard Travellin'"? Or "The Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly"?

Gimme a break.

--seed(big on memorizing)


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: JulieF
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 07:43 AM

I have to agree with 'A Man's a man for a' that'. Not only does it reflect on the human spirit but it would pass some aspect of the language and culture down.

Assuming this passing of songs would be under a totalitarian threat I would also choose 'Only our rivers run free' which could be adapted to any such situation.

Julie


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 09:16 AM

Amergin.

Do you say that because you know I am a bodhran player????????

(no offense taken :-))


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Peg
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:17 PM

tough choice!

I think Westlin' Winds by Robbie Burns...(can't recall the other title)

(or maybe "American Pie" by Don McLean but I would not be the best one to sing it..but I think it should be in there)

peg


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Mbo
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 12:38 PM

Peg, the original Burns title is "Song Composed In August."


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Peg
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 01:47 PM

thanks Mbo! Guess I better sing a few times before the month is out...


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: GUEST,Mbo
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 01:48 PM

What about "The Last Cowboy Song."


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Airto
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 02:01 PM

I would want to see the beautiful, haunting German song Die Moorsoldaten/Peat Bog Soldiers included in the repertoire. The concentration camp subject matter would be entirely appropriate and the elements of defiance and optimism in the final verse would make it a valuable resource in times of adversity.

But perhaps I should have left this song for the likes of Wolfgang to claim.

Closer to (my) home, Paul Brady's song The Island would be a must. It comes closer to stating my personal credo about political conflict than any other song. Amazingly enough, the ironic lines "I know us plain folks don't see all the story, I guess peace and love's just copping out" lost him a lot of friends when he first sang it in the early 1980s.

Arthur O'Malley


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 06:25 PM

That's a well thought out selection Arthur....as I find most of these to be. Even Seed, who tried to slide in quite a few, has played the game well.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 30 Aug 00 - 06:48 PM

Just found this thread - Bravo, Spaw!

My song would be "Brown-Eyed Girl". In a way, it's kind of an anthem from the 60's. Rebels could identify each other by gently singing the chorus - tell me there's someone who doesn't know how that goes. Meetings could then be furtively arranged for talk and sharing tunes.

I think the tale of Van Morrison - a vastly creative artist, tortured by his demons and by his success, who's life had it's share of tragedy (T.B. Sheets), included a religious conversion and an ongoing search for a musical philosopher's stone - is inspirational and cautionary.

I find this particular songinteresting on another level, also. The title is indicative of the contradictions of the times in which it was written, as he was required to change it from "brown-skinned girl" to avoid negative reaction to celebrating an inter-racial relationship.

Besides, I know it all the way through.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Amergin
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:29 AM

This is a bit of a thread creep here on a good thread (sorry, 'Spaw), but if we memorised a song and passed it on to succeeding generations who memorised it exactly the way we memorised it (without permitting the song to change or grow over time), wouldn't that destroy the very nature of folk music?

Amerginwhoseverysorryifhefuckedthisthreaduptoobad


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 01:24 AM

Sounds like kind of an oral RUS, huh, Amergin? That IS frightening.

--seed


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 07:01 AM

Catspaw, did you see that? It is Uncle Charles!
He has come home.

Catspaw I know you said I can only pick one song but I've been kicked out of so many music stores playing my Stairway To Heaven, can I pick another song?
How about Sweet City Woman? Being that it was the first song I ever heard on the banjo and when I asked Rick to teach it to me he almost fell off his seat. Not sure why, guess he was overwhelmed with joy.

Banjo Bunny


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Dave Swan
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 02:01 AM

Other folks have got important, significant, and moving covered. I keep coming back to Three Merry Men from Kent. I've loved singing it for years. It's musically pleasing, a song bent on having a good time, but not mindlessly so.

"For who can know where we may go to be merry another year?..."

E.S.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 04:12 PM

Neo, your Uncle Charles thanks you profusely for deciding against preserving "Stairway to Heaven" unto all eternity: It has the most annoying repeated phrase in all of recorded music--it would be okay once at the very end of the song, but thirty-two or fifty-seven or a hundred and thirteen or however many times they repeat it is just too damned much. Now be a nice niece and promise to consign that one to the very dusty bottom of your repertoire, and save some of your own sweet tunes instead.

--with much love and gratitude, Uncle Charles


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Mbo
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 04:19 PM

I'd save Stairway to Heaven. "There's this feeling I get when I look to the West..." rings so true in my life. BTW Seed have you ever heard Martin Carthy sing "The Bonny Swans"? It has the same repeated phrase on ever line of the verse, and the song lasts about 15 minutes. I'll stick with Stairway...although if I was going for a Zeppelin song, I'd take "The Rain Song" since it is one of my favorite & most beautiful songs ever, and the sentiments it expresses deserve to be preserved.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Mooh
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 09:10 PM

My Led Zeppelin might be Whole Lotta Love for its sheer primal involvement, or Nobody's Fault But Mine for its confessional value.

Deep Purple's When A Blind Man Cries for its "in another's shoes" statement.

Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 05:50 AM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:21 PM

Gee, I thought I posted to this thread 4 years ago.

Hmmmmmmm


This Land Is Your Land.


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:39 PM

Gawd, this isn't any easier today than it was four years ago!

"Last Night I Had the Strangest Dream" is one song which must never be lost. I'll stick with that one.


A


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: GUEST,J
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 07:40 PM

Great idea. Great thread. Great choices. I loved F451 as a teenager (I'm 49), but appreciated it more recently because of my sister-in-law's father-in-law. He was an elderly academic from Czech-land who, before the walls came down, would travel here, spend mornings in libraries reading history and news, spend afternoons writing it out to commit it to memory, and then go home as a walking journal of political theory and reportage. He couldn't carry a Time magazine for fear of confiscation and arrest, but became his friends' link to the world beyond the Iron Curtain. He never, to my knowledge, read Bradbury, but I bet Ol'Ray knew all about him and others like him.

Oh, my choices. Staines' "Crossing The Water", Humphries' "We Are One" or "Swimming To The Other Side."


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: GUEST,Anne Croucher
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 11:37 AM

Ah - that would be - Hamish Henderson's 'Freedom Come all ye'

There is a SF story of a being planning to become its own monument, one which - when approached, would play 'The old Hundredth'

I thought of a dozen traditional songs, a couple of hymns, and Alices restaurant, and a couple of songs from the Quo - but it has to be F-C-A-Ye.

It is not my language, but it speaks both to me and for me.

Anne


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Subject: RE: Fahrenheit 451-The LAST Song
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 09:42 PM

Wait on - you can't ALL have the SAME song, that's not the point - we want to preserve as MANY songs as possible... :-)


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