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Subject: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Tim Johns (t.f.johns@bham.ac.uk) Date: 06 Aug 97 - 10:48 AM I am looking for the lyrics of the following sea shanties referred to and sung by the children in Arthur Ransome's 'Swallows and Amazons' (1930): 1. The Whale 2. Amsterdam 3. Salt Beef (Ransome gives what appear to be two verses, starting: Salt beef, salt beef is our relief Salt beef and biscuit bread O!) With huge thanks in advance for help offered Tim Johns |
Subject: RE: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Bob Hollis Date: 06 Aug 97 - 12:05 PM Tim, have you searched the database? There are many songs referring to whaling. One version of A'Roving is based in Amsterdam, but I don't think Susan would have allowed it. (Have you had any response to your request for White's Small Boat Sailing yet? |
Subject: Lyr Add: A-ROVIN' From: pete Date: 06 Aug 97 - 01:24 PM here's the version of a'rovin that i have... **************************************** A-ROVIN' In Amsterdam there lived a Maid Mark well what I do say! In Amsterdam there lived a maid And she was mistress of her trade I'll go no more a-rovin' with you fair maid A-rovin', a-rovin', since rovin's been my ru-i-in I'll go no more a-rovin' with you fair maid One night I crept from my abode Mark etc. One night I crept from my abode To meet this fair maid down the road I'll go etc. I met this fair maid after dark And took her to her favorite park. I took this fair maid for a walk And we had such a loving talk. I put me arm around her waist Sez she, "Young man, you're in great haste!" I put my hand upon her knee Sez she, "Young man you're rather free!" I put my hand upon her thigh Sez she, "Young man you're rather high!" She sore that she'd be true to me But spent me pay-day fast and free In three weeks time I was badly bent Then off to sea I sadly went. In a bloodboat Yank bound round Cape Horn Me boots and clothes were all in pawn Bound up Cape Stiff through ice and snow And up the coast to Cally-o An' then back to the Liverpool Docks Saltpeter stowed in our boots an' socks Now when I got home from sea A soger had her on his knee. ****************************************** |
Subject: RE: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Aug 97 - 03:19 PM What's a soger, Pete? -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Date: 06 Aug 97 - 06:38 PM Soger = soldier |
Subject: RE: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Alex Date: 06 Aug 97 - 11:17 PM I remember reading "Swallows and Amazons" as a kid, but I no longer have a copy. Is there a fragment of any of the shanties quoted? Might be able to help if you can quote a couple of lines. |
Subject: RE: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Tim Johns Date: 07 Aug 97 - 07:42 AM I'm very grateful to Bob for his rip-roaring lines: if this isn't what the chidren sang, it's what they ought to have sung! The first part is virtually identical with a song which I know as 'In Leicester Town' that has the young man touching various other parts of the maid's anatomy - eg I put my hand upon her toe/She said "Young man, you're rather slow." I put my hand upon her breast/She said "Young man, now that's the best." Whether this was indeed the song (probably in a cleaned-up version) referred to by Ransome we may never know: he gives only the title, and no further clue. Tim |
Subject: RE: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Tim (2) Date: 07 Aug 97 - 07:46 AM Oops, I misread the messages Thanks to Bob, but most to Peter! T. |
Subject: RE: Need Shanty Lyrics From: Ted In Australia Date: 19 Aug 97 - 08:41 AM search the net for The Bitter End at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/alan.j.hardy/ For heaps of good chanties |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 3 Shanties From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch Date: 06 Jun 18 - 05:42 AM Tune Req: Salt Beef (Swallows and Amazons) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 3 Shanties From: Lighter Date: 06 Jun 18 - 08:46 AM What exactly is Masefield's "Sailor's Haul"? The only ref. I can find is at the Arthur Ransome site. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 3 Shanties From: Steve Gardham Date: 06 Jun 18 - 04:58 PM Would that be 'Mains'l Haul'? And surely 'Salt Beef' is a childfriendly alteration of 'Salt Horse' |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 3 Shanties From: Steve Gardham Date: 06 Jun 18 - 05:01 PM See the other current thread for 'Salt Beef' which isn't any sort of a chanty, a modern composed piece. |
Subject: RE: Req: 3 Shanties from 'Swallows and Amazons' From: Lighter Date: 06 Jun 18 - 06:00 PM Well, there's John Masefield, "A Mainsail Haul" (London: Elkin Mathews, 1905). But the two songs cited don't seem to be in it. |
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