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Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight

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DON'T GO IN THEM LION'S CAGE TONIGHT!


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Tune Req: Don't Go In them Lion's Cage Tonight (15)


Kevin 05 Nov 96 - 09:31 AM
Susan of DT 05 Nov 96 - 06:54 PM
rabbitrunning 31 Aug 00 - 02:03 AM
Joe Offer 31 Aug 00 - 04:53 AM
Abby Sale 31 Aug 00 - 08:48 AM
Snuffy 31 Aug 00 - 09:16 AM
SINSULL 31 Aug 00 - 09:51 AM
LR Mole 31 Aug 00 - 10:10 AM
rabbitrunning 31 Aug 00 - 10:11 AM
Uncle_DaveO 31 Aug 00 - 12:21 PM
Uncle_DaveO 31 Aug 00 - 03:55 PM
Joe Offer 31 Aug 00 - 04:01 PM
Uncle_DaveO 31 Aug 00 - 05:31 PM
GUEST,Gene 31 Aug 00 - 09:16 PM
SINSULL 01 Sep 00 - 04:28 PM
Uncle_DaveO 01 Sep 00 - 09:48 PM
Rincon Roy 02 Sep 00 - 12:26 AM
Abby Sale 02 Sep 00 - 01:39 PM
Uncle_DaveO 02 Sep 00 - 03:34 PM
Charley Noble 15 Aug 01 - 08:02 PM
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masato sakurai 15 Aug 01 - 11:06 PM
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Charley Noble 16 Aug 01 - 11:00 AM
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Charley Noble 19 Aug 01 - 11:49 AM
Uncle_DaveO 19 Aug 01 - 11:54 AM
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Subject: Don't Go In Them Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Kevin
Date: 05 Nov 96 - 09:31 AM

I'm trying to locate the words to a song my grandmother used to sing. All I can remember is the chorus goes something like this.

Don't go in the lion's cage tonight Mother darling
for the lions are ferocious and may bite.
And when they take their angry fits
they may tear you all to bits.
So, don't go in the lions cage tonight.

Any help would be appreciated.

Lyrics in the Digital Tradition
DON'T GO IN THEM LION'S CAGE TONIGHT!


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Subject: RE: Don't Go In The Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Susan of DT
Date: 05 Nov 96 - 06:54 PM

It's in the DT.


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Subject: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 02:03 AM

I was talking to my Mom about the Mudcat, and she mentioned a song she couldn't remember all the words to. There's a thread with some of the words here, and it was sung on a Hearme, but I didn't find those links until I went to post this. (keen feature!)

Mom says she had it on an album by Beatrice Kay, which was all "Gay 90's" songs like "The Oceania Roll."

She'd really love to have the words. Anyone?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 04:53 AM

Hi - I searched the database for cage tonight and it came right up - Click here. Often, it's better not to search the Digital Traditon by title. Just throw in some words you're sure will be there.

"Dont Go In Them Lion's Cage Tonight, Mother" is printed in My Pious Friends and Drunken Companions, a truly inspiring book published in 1927, edited by Frank Shay. The book says
To be half-recited, half sung in a cross between a childish treble and a whiskey tenor to any melody you can adapt to the words. It is quite effective at certain stages.
So, can anybody think of an appropriate tune that will scan to this?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Abby Sale
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 08:48 AM

I taped Martin Carthy doing this wonderful song about 1968. He uses Shay's words without the "Mother" at the end of the chorus' first line. If you look again, you'll see it then scans well to almost anything. Call me and I'll (sing) it for you. Shay gives no background but it must be from English music hall. The "childish" directio is critical, though.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Snuffy
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:16 AM

If you drop mother completely, then anything like "She'll Be Coming Round The Mountain" fits the bill perfectly. But I prefer something a bit more doleful.

If you try it with Mother Dear it would just about go to "What's The Life Of A Man", or if you change Mother Dear to Ma, then "Galway Bay" is not too far out.

Wassail! V


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: SINSULL
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:51 AM

DaveO does a memorable "Lion's Den" on Hearme. Wonderful! I just got a copy of "...Drunken Friends..." on Ebay. Didn't know the "Lion's Den" was in there. Can't wait to see it now.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: LR Mole
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 10:10 AM

Unfortunately, the tune I know as "I Wish I Were an Oscar Meyer Weiner" seems to work, but only if you do the "Mother" as a sort of echoic audience participation/response.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 10:11 AM

Thanks, all. Any tune you like, eh? That's my kind of song!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 12:21 PM

Thank you, Sinsull, for the plug! The check will be in the mail directly.

I know the one line as "Don't go in the lions' cage tonight, mama darling."

More's the pity, I have no way to submit the tune that I know.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 03:55 PM

If anyone is interested in doing so, bring a tape recorder to HearMe on a Sunday night (or any other night that you can catch me there, but Sunday's most reliable) and request the Lion's Cage. I'll be glad to share my deathless performance.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: Don't Go In Them Lions' Cage Tonight - recording
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 04:01 PM

Dave, we have to figure out a way to preserve your recording for posterity. I think I need to hear it. Since there really isn't a tune specified, I decided to make one up - or maybe it's a copyrighted tune I heard somewhere and Harry Fox himself will come after me with a pitchfork.
Whatever the case, you can listen to what I did with the song at my Website - Click here. If you know what tune it is I'm singing, please let me know.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 05:31 PM

AS I just told Joe Offer in an e-mail, I learned "Lions" in the mid to late 40s, from the national radio comedy program of Morey Amsterdam, a comedian/cellist. How's that for a combination? Very much hammed-up, which I think is right for this kind of a song.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Gene
Date: 31 Aug 00 - 09:16 PM

Or as Homer & Jethro sang:

Don't go into the Lion's cage tonight
The Lions they will tear you to bits
Two Bits?
Two Bits!
Shoot-you're faded.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 04:28 PM

Dave's version is very similar to the one my Aunt May sang many years ago. And she emoted even more. I am surprised to hear that there is not a set tune.
Mary


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 01 Sep 00 - 09:48 PM

By "not a set tune" I think one can understand that at some point someone didn't know the tune, and so didn't specify. I verily believe that Aunt May and I and Morey Amsterdam (and maybe Beatrice Lilly) have THE tune.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Rincon Roy
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 12:26 AM

Yes Gene, seems like this song appeared on same H&J recording as that other immortal ditty, "There's a Fly on Poppa's head."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Abby Sale
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 01:39 PM

doesterr: I wouldn't bet either way & one would think that the writer of of it may have had a specific tune in mind. Shay's "any melody you can adapt to the words" is 1928 which is earlyish even for Bea Lilly or Amsterdam. Also, as aside comment, one of Amsterdam's genius moves was the ability to instantly improvise tunes (and jokes). I think the back-and-forth between adult and childish voices was more important than the tune. Which was for the chorus only.

There is a version out there (I think Dick knows it) which has a tune for the whole song and I think that detracts, not adds. I like Carthy's version & do that.

So there!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 03:34 PM

I agree that the original author probably had a tune in mind when (s)he wrote the song.

Yes, Pious Friends, by Shay, was '28. But it (the book) is EDITED BY Shay. When was the song written? By whom? I certainly don't know. I used to have "Pious Friends" as well as "More Pious Friends", but both of them are long gone.

The fact that Shay says "any tune" merely means (to me) that HE doesn't know the tune, and presumably doesn't care. That doesn't mean there wasn't a tune or tunes extant in '28, one of which could have been the original.

In any case, the tune I learned from Amsterdam works wonderfully, BOTH VERSE AND CHORUS, and doesn't require any editing of the words to fit, as mentioned in some of the posts above.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: DON'T GO IN THE LIONS' CAGE...
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 08:02 PM

Just a note to attach to this discussion. My mother claims she knows the correct tune as she learned it from our old family friend Dennis Puleston but, alas, I can only supply the chords. Her wording is similar to the DT; at least it's in the same disfuntional family:

DON'T GO IN THE LIONS' CAGE
(English Music Hall From singing of Dennis Puleston Long Island, NY)

Dm
A lady once she had a lovely daughter,
-----Am---------------------Dm
That lady was an actress on the stage

She'd walk into a cage of angry lions
------Am---------------------Dm
Them lions they was always in a rage.

One day her daughter had a premonition
----Am-----------------------------Dm
That everything that night would not go right

And so she told her mother in the kitchen,
Am-----------------------Dm
"Don't go in that lion's cage tonight!"

Chorus:

C----F
"Oh, don't go in that lion's cage, dear mother, dear, tonight;
------C-------------------------F
Them lions is ferocious and might bite!
Bb---------------------------------F
When they get them angry fits, they'll tear you into little bits,
---C------------------------F
So don't go in that lion's cage tonight."


The lady laughed "Ha, ha!" She did not heed the warning
That unto her her daughter she did give;
"Oh, no!" she cried, "I do not fear them lions;
Not one of them could make me cease to live!"
She went into that cage of angry lions,
Them lions was ferocious as could be;
"Alas!" she cried as one strode up and bit her,
"I now recall what daughter said to me!" (CHO)

"Oh, who will save my mother?" cried the daughter;
"By lions she is being bit and et!"
"I will!" Replied a young man in the gallery;
"I'll save her from those awful beasts, you bet!"
He strode into that cage of angry lions;
He quelled them and the mother rescu-ed;
"Here's your ma," he said and then he kissed her;
"For I have loved you ever since you said:" (CHO)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 10:26 PM

Aunt May sang "Bi-i-i-i-i-i-its"


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: masato sakurai
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 11:06 PM

Who wrote this when? There's an entry in The Great Song Thesaurus (Oxford UP, 1984). It says:

1906 w.m. E. Ray Goetz, John Gilroy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 05:19 AM

Heard an absolutely great version of this at Beverley Folk Festival a couple of years ago sung in the Tap & Spile by Mike Harding of all people !! he had come in with John leonard and asked to record a couple of songs in the singaround for BBC Radio 2's 'Folk on Two'. Ray and Johnny who were runnning the singaround said they would if Mike did a song after and that was the song he sang.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 11:00 AM

Thanks, Masato. I hadn't run across the reference to "1906 w.m. E. Ray Goetz, John Gilroy" before. Maybe, we're finally closing in on the composers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Kim
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 07:19 PM

Here is (most of) a somewhat more gruesome version. I can probably recall the tune if anyone desperately needs to know (khughes@verio.net).I put an underline where I couldn't remember the words.

Don't Go in the Lions' Cage Tonight

A mother once she had a lovely daughter,
The mother was an actress on the stage;
She traveled with a troop of well-trained lions,
And every night she went into their cage.

One night the daughter had a premonition,
That everything that night would not go right--
______________________________________,
"Please, don't go in the lions' cage tonight!"

"Don't go in the lions' cage tonight, mother darling,
For the lions look ferocious, and may bite,
And when they get their angry fits, they may tear you all to bits;
Don't go in the lions' cage tonight!"

The mother did not heed the daughter's warning,
But turned to her, and softly said, "Pooh, pooh.
I think that I should know what I am doing;
When I'm around, the lions all feel blue."

That night ________________,
And the lions, they decided they would eat,
And as they bit the dear old mother's head off,
These words came back to her, so clear and sweet:

"Don't go in the lions' cage tonight, mother darling,
For the lions look ferocious, and may bite.
And when they get their angry fits, they may tear you all to bits;
Don't go in the lions' cage tonight!"

As I recall, the singer inserted a pretty maniacal "Ha ha ha ha ha!" right before the very last line -- totally reversing your previous impression of the sweet young child pleading with her mother.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 17 Aug 01 - 08:25 AM

UK 'Catters of my vintage will remember the 'Billy Cotton band Show' on radio and later, television. They did many comedy novelty numbers including 'Lions cage' sung by Alan Breeze. I remember it from those days, though I seemed to think it was 'daddy' rather than Mother. I may be confusing it with another one of theirs, 'Don't Go Down The Mines Dad, There's Plenty Of Coal On The Top'.Theu also did 'I'm A Lonely Little Petunia In An Onion Patch'. A sizable repertoire of this type of song exists, think of one or two of Gracie Fields' hits such as 'Turn Albert's face To The Wall, Mother'. They are great fun, we should hear more of them. They should be sung with care however. Trying too hard to make them funny can often kill the joke. Sometimes a straight rendition can produce the funniest result. It's great to be reminded of this. I think I'll learn it. Thanks rabbitrunning for starting this thread.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Aug 01 - 11:49 AM

Sang "Don't Go In the Lions' Cage" late last night at the every so annual Gooch Island Party in the Royal River in Yarmouth as we sat around the camp fire; it still has a gratifying impact.;-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 19 Aug 01 - 11:54 AM

I frequently sing this, to great effect, in a version I learned back in the 40s, on a nationally syndicated weekly show by the comedian/cellist/singer Morrie Amersterdam.

LOTS of fun!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 19 Aug 01 - 01:16 PM

My father taped a show by Max Morath years ago with this song on it; we sang it to death (oops- no pun intended)!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Old Memories 1940's
Date: 07 Mar 08 - 09:14 AM

I first heard this song by gracie fields when I was about 12 years old. My brother bought the recording and when my children where small, I used to sing it to them. They loved it. Sure wish I could find a copy so that they can let my grandchildren hear it. He also had a recording on My mother Was a Lady. and Behind those Swinging Doors. Does anyone remember these?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 04:53 PM

The British Library lists DON'T GO IN THE LION'S CAGE TONIGHT - mock ballad from "The Blue Moon", words by John Gilroy, music by E. Ray Goetz, New York : Helf & Hager Co, [1906].


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 08 Mar 08 - 07:10 PM

A "mock ballad from The Blue Moon"?

So does this mean the song was part of a play or musical revue?

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Joybell
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 06:41 PM

I just knew this would be one of yours too, Uncle DaveO. I've only known it for 20 years. Christmas before last I performed it to great effect as part of a circus segment in our Christmas play. Little kids as lions dancing and snarling. Oh!! it was fun.
Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Mrs_Annie
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:15 AM

How appropriate that this thread should have been revived.
Yesterday, at Loughborough, in the Traditions concert, Martin Carthy came in and sat in the back row next to us. After a while John Howson spotted him and asked him if he would do a 'guest spot'. So Martin stood up where he was and did this song. Wonderful it was.

The poor lad has a really bad cold, but despite this he performed with Waterson Carthy, did an interview at 11 am on Sunday, and was a 'friend' of Martin Simpson last night. What a star.
Hope he is tucked up in his bed today.

So if I go down with a cold, I will tell everyone I have Martin Carthy's cold. ;)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 10:19 AM

I believe they're off on tour today, but he was reasonably perky at breakfast this morning, despite the rigours of the weekend!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: iancarterb
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:09 AM

I learned the song from Jeff Warner in the early sixties, and from Frank. The Maine and NH catters could probably get Jeff to sing it without having to withold beer. The better part of a generation of kindergarten through 5th graders when my daughter was in those grades on Bainbridge Island in Washington know the song now. The incoming kindergarten class always had to be reassured that it wasn't a true story. I tried to hedge on that. :)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: BK Lick
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 11:29 AM

"Trying too hard to make them funny can often kill the joke. Sometimes a straight rendition can produce the funniest result."
But on the other hand, consider this performance.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 Mar 08 - 10:59 PM

Hmmm. The Internet Broadway Database lists a musical comedy called "The Blue Moon" that was performed in 1906-1907--which is the right time frame--but (1) it lists all the songs, and they don't include DON'T GO IN THE LION'S CAGE TONIGHT; and (2) it give the following credits: "Music by Howard Talbot and Paul A. N. Rubens; interpolated songs by Addison Burkhardt and Gus Edwards; Book by Harold Ellis; Lyrics by Percy Greenbank and Paul A. N. Rubens; Musical Director: Albert Krausse" --and those don't include Gilroy and Goetz.

Surely there weren't TWO plays with the same title being performed in the same year, do you suppose?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Mar 08 - 08:29 AM

Jim-

No, but there might have been more than one set of songs for the production.

This looks like another mission for TIME-TRAVEL MAN!

I'll be right back!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble,


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Anna Jane
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 12:50 AM

Kim's version is the one I recall, word for word, so I guess it's the right one; we can't both have got it wrong in exactly the same way !

I haven't heard it for years, but did hear The Knight in Rusty Armour today.

I'd love to hear The Lonely Little Petunia in an Onion Patch again; all I can remember is the chorus !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 08:44 AM

In March, the following occurred:

    "Trying too hard to make them funny can often kill the joke. Sometimes a straight rendition can produce the funniest result."

And BK Lick said:
But on the other hand, consider [Blicky] THIS PERFORMANCE.   

Okay, I clicked on the link. The linked "performance", if you want to call it that, was not "on the other hand". It illustrated quite clearly what was said in the quoted comment of someone else.

To the extent that there were laughs, the laughter had almost nothing to do with the joke of the song, but rather with personal silliness of the pathetic performer. The whole thing was embarrassing to watch, so much so that I quit about half way through the video and returned to Mudcat, happy to be away from such willful stupidity.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: BK Lick
Date: 22 Apr 08 - 03:10 PM

By "on the other hand" I only meant to point out an extreme example of the opposite point of view -- I didn't intend to endorse it. Sheesh.
—BK


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: oolong
Date: 28 Dec 08 - 11:56 PM

I learned a version similar to that shown in the link from Oscar Brand's "Give 'em The Hook - Songs That Killed Vaudeville"

... and just a note to Mr. Noble I used to write a column of nautical lore using the pen name Charlie Noble. That was back when I used to smoke. ;->


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go In the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Dec 08 - 09:08 AM

Oolong-

Very nicely put, and you're certainly not the first to "smoke" the meaning of my nickname.

There is also a Charley Noble detective series based in the Pacific Northwest, featuring a retired Coastguardman with that nickname. It's a curious world.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 08:56 AM

Hi I urgently need the shet the music for Lions cage for a childrens show I am doing can anyone help me??


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 01:10 PM

Boy, I don't know of any sheet music. I did find a recording, however - it's a CD by Ian Bell called My Pious Friends and Drunken Companions, and there are sound clips so you can hear what the song sounds like.
Julie Andrews also did a recording of the song on an album of vaudeville songs, but I can't find that album for sale for less than $175. The song was also recorded by Oscar Brand and by Homer & Jethro.
As far as I can tell, the primary source of this song is a songbook called My Pious Friends and Drunken Companions, which does not have music notation for the song.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,iancarterb
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 10:25 PM

If urgently means yesterday, I can't help, but I could probably notate it by tomorrow sometime. I'd need an address and you'd need a (free, I think) downloadable Finale reader. Please advise, and probably put a name to GUEST so Joe doesn't send you into the nether regions of cyberspace.
Carter B


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 23 Sep 09 - 11:26 PM

Ian-

We certainly share a bizarre taste in music!

I'll have to record our family's version of this song some time myself. Of course it's the only correct version of the song!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Sep 09 - 12:06 AM

Carter B - feel free to e-mail it to me, and I'll figure out a way to post it.

-Joe Offer-
joe@mudcat.org


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: iancarterb
Date: 24 Sep 09 - 07:50 PM

Joe- Thanks. I'm working on it in available minutes. Probably will take another day.   Carter


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Artful Codger
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 06:44 AM

Harold Haugh, who taught at the U of Michigan, had a specialization in vaudeville songs. (The faculty also included Joan Morris, William Bolcom, and William Albright--American songs of that period were well covered.) So I'd be inclined to believe the tune he used in this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sthugcGG9X8) is as close to definitive as we're likely to encounter, short of finding the score itself. Members of the Comic Opera Guild in Ann Arbor may be able to locate a score and scan it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 08:54 AM

Artful Codger-

I do like Harold Haugh's presentation and the tune, but I'm puzzled that he didn't include the third verse where the mother was heroically rescued.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 10:25 AM

I love Haugh's introduction, that "This is a song about occupational hazards"!

It's not surprising, I suppose, that I prefer Morey Amsterdam's tune, which I learned back in the Pleistocene age, to Haugh's.

Thinking back to Morey Amsterdam's treatment, I remember that he made an audience-participation piece out of this song, with the audience urged to join in the chorus.

And he made the word "lions" into four syllables: "lee-eye-oh-nuhs".

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Artful Codger
Date: 22 Feb 10 - 03:01 PM

To Charlie: Er, my guess is, the third verse was a later add-on. It isn't included in most versions I've heard. Similar to "The Preacher and the Bear", perhaps, where Randy Sparks added the ending and punchline that seemed so logically indicated. I've been racking my brains to come up with an alternative version that similarly fleshes out and completes the latter song without trespassing on anyone's copyright.


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Subject: Lyr Add: DON'T GO IN THE LION'S CAGE TONIGHT
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 23 Mar 10 - 10:04 PM

You can see the sheet music for this song at the website of Baylor University.

DON'T GO IN THE LION'S CAGE TONIGHT: mock ballad from "The Blue Moon"
Words by John Gilroy; music by E. Ray Goetz
New York: Vogel Music Co., ©1906.

As sung by Julie Andrews (backed up by about 3 male singers):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYianGwqOnE

1. A mother once she had a lovely daughter.
The mother was a [sic] actress on the stage.
She traveled with a troop of well-trained lions,
And each night she went in the lions' cage.
One day the daughter had a premonition
That ev'rything that night would not go right. (Would not go right)
That day she told her mother in the kitchen: (Please!)
"Don't go in the lions' cage tonight. (No, not tonight!)

CHORUS: "Don't go in the cage tonight, mother darling,
For the lions look ferocious and they bite;
And when they get their angry fits,
They may tear you all to bits, (Bits! Bits! Bits!)*
So don't go in the lions' cage tonight." (No, not tonight!)*

2. The mother heeded not the daughter's warning.
But to her turned and softly said. "Pooh-pooh!"
I think I ought to know what I am doing.
When I'm around the lions all feel blue." (They all feel blue.)
That night while she was dancing in the lions' cage,
The lions thought that they would like to eat; (Would like to eat.)
And as they bit her darling mother's head off,
These words came back to her so pure and sweet: (So pure and sweet.)

CHORUS

[* Words in parentheses are sung only on the 2nd chorus.]


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Mar 10 - 09:42 AM

I definitely have an itch to record what I think is the "right" version of this old song. I do enjoy the "extra" last verse.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Richard E in Ohio
Date: 26 May 10 - 10:17 AM

I've lipped synced "Lions' Cage" sincec oollege in 1947.

Thus, without my trying, the lyrics ar etced in my memory.

I've highlighted certain words tha are as she sang on her 78rpm record and vary from other versions in this thread


A lady once she had a lovely daughter
The mother was a actress on the stage,
She traveled with a troop of well-trainer lions
And each night she went in the lions' cage.

A lady once she had a lovely daughter
The mother was a actress on the stage,
She traveled with a troop of well-trainer lions
And each night she went in the lions' cage.

One day the daughter had a premonition
that everything that night would not go right
And so she told her mother in the kitchen,
"Please don't go in the lions' caget tonight."

"Please don't go in the xcagge, Mama darling
For the lions look ferocious and may bite
"And when they get theior angry fits
They may tear you all to bits,
So please, don't go in the lions cage tonight."

The mother heeded not the daughter's warning,
But to her turned and softly said "Go Homne"
"I think I ought to knows what I am doing
:"When I'm around the lions all feel blue."

That night while she was dancing in the lions cage
The lions thought that they would like to eat
And as they bit the mother's head off,
these words came bck to her so soft and sweet:


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Charley Noble
Date: 26 May 10 - 02:46 PM

One of the things I ran across in the loft of my mother's old studio was a set of studies for a proposed mural for the U. S. Social Services Administration back in the early 1940's. The theme of the mural was supposed to be "American Songs" and one of the illustrations that mother submitted was a sketch of "Don't Go in the Lion's Cage." She didn't win that mural competition; she did, however, win several others. I'll post our version of the lyrics this weekend on my website along with the graphic.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Megan Thomas
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 08:50 PM

I know this song very well. It was used in the Off Broadway Show THE DRUNKARD at the 13th St Theatre back in the 1960's. (My father was in that show. Barry "Mann" Manelo was the music director.) I would LOVE to get sheet music for it. Does anyone know where I could find that? Would love your help.
Thanks,
    Megan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 20 Jun 11 - 01:30 PM

WorldCat.org tells me that copies of the sheet music of DON'T GO IN THE LION'S CAGE TONIGHT are held by the following libraries:

University of Colorado at Boulder
San Francisco Public Library
The British Library


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST,Bill Burkett
Date: 28 Jul 11 - 07:37 PM

A mother once she had a lovely daughter. the mother was a actress on the stage.
She traveled with a troupe of well trained lions, and each night she went in the lions cage.
One day the daughter had a premonition, that everything that night would not go right.
And so she told her mother in the kitchen "Oh please! Don't go in the lions cage tonight, no, not tonight.

Don't go in the cage tonight, mother darling, for the lions are ferocious and may bite.
And when they get their angry fits, they may tear you all to bits, so, don't go in the lions cage tonight."

The mother heeded not the daughter's warning, but to her turned and softly said: "GO TO!
I think I ought to know what I am doing. When I'm around the lions all feel blue."
That night as she was dancing in the lions cage, the lions thought that they would like to eat.
And as they bit the darling mother's head off, these words came back to her, so pure and sweet:

Don't go in the cage tonight, mother darling....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 29 Jul 11 - 04:34 PM

A great song, good fun to sing. Ido remember it as 'Daddy darling' rather than mother, but I bow to the majority here. I'm definitely going to start singing it again. Does anyone out there remember 'Hang on the bell, Nellie'. Another great fun song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 29 Jul 11 - 04:38 PM

An afterthought; I seem to remember the first line of the chorus as being 'Don't go DOWN the lion's cage tonight, Daddy darling'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Don't Go in the Lion's Cage Tonight
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Feb 12 - 12:33 AM

For what it's worth I remember my mother singing this to me when I was 6 or so [about 1945]. As I recall - a 6 year old's recollection here - it came from a song she told me was "Mother was a lion tamer".

My parents liked musical type plays and had a number of the 78 rpm "Albums" which usually would have 3 to 5 records in a sort of hard covered colorfully printed exterior art. This type of presentation evolved into tje "LP" type of jacket in the vinyl era.

I swear mom would plaay the record and sing along with it but then that was 67 years ago and the ol' mental database is a bit overloaded.


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