Subject: RE: Lyr ADD Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Apr 23 - 04:02 PM What's your source, Ken? It's quite different from the version posted above (click) by Joan from Wigan. Here's a performance by the Liverpool Ukulele Orchestra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjvg061Tio |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: GUEST,ken murphy Date: 14 Apr 23 - 03:57 PM "BACK BUCHANAN STREET" A feller from the Corpy, just out of plannng school, Has told us that we've got to move right out of Liverpool. They're moving us to Kirkby to Skelmersdale and Speke, But we want to stay where we used to play in Back Buchanan Street, CHORUS; Don't want to go to Kirkby,don't want to go to Speke, Don't want to go from all I know in Back Buchanan Street. (I'll miss the) pub around the corner, with the parlour painted red, Likewise the green goddesses, likewise the Overhead. And lots of other little things, like putting out the cat, Cause there's no back door on the 14th floor of a corpy Tower-block flat. I'll miss the Mary Ellens, Me Dad'll miss the docks. Me Gran'll miss the wash-house where she washed me grandad's socks They've pulled down Paddy's Market, where me Ma once had a stall, And soon their picks & shovels will be through our backyard wall. From Bootle to the Dingle, you can hear the same old cry, "Stop mucking round with Liverpool, at least until I die". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: GUEST,David Cusack Date: 19 Jul 20 - 12:17 PM A slight correction to the lyrics; “a feller from the corpy, straight out of planning school, Has told us that we’ve got to move right out of Liverpool”. Sorry, about that. Gregsons well has been knocked down now, lost forever, were Jackie and Bridie started off I believe. Bloody Joe Andersons students now inhabit the area. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: GUEST,John Haines Date: 18 Nov 11 - 03:22 PM Does anyone have the lyrics for Hold back the Dawn by Jacqui and Bridie? I have heard the various videos on Youtube but I just can't work out the first verse, it sounds like 'when the swallow will shine no more,' but do swallows shine, even poetically? Cheers JH |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: GUEST,blogward Date: 24 Oct 11 - 01:17 PM Excellent. However, it kind of puts 'Octopus's Garden in perspective, doesn't it. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: Jim I Date: 24 Oct 11 - 11:59 AM Try here for a version and some history http://aliverpoolfolksongaweek.blogspot.com/2011_05_01_archive.html |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: Noreen Date: 23 Oct 11 - 06:53 PM YouTube clips of the 'final night', with reminiscences by various associated folkies- Tom Paxton, Peggy Seeger...Jacqui & Bridie's Folk Club Start of the concert at the Phil: Kilgarry Mountain Finale: Leaving of Liverpool |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: GUEST,Tom Date: 19 Oct 10 - 01:01 PM Jacqui McDonald celebrates 50 years of the coach house folk club and final night at the Liverpool Phil on Sunday 23rd January 2011. Tickets on sale now through the phil website |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: Young Buchan Date: 24 Nov 09 - 07:46 PM A couple of years ago I switched on the car radio and they were playing J&B singing Don't want to go to Kirkby, To Skelmersdale or Speke,Don't want to go from all I know in Back Buchanan Street. Why? Because one of those aforementioned estates (possibly Firbeck in Skelmersdale, but I'm open to correction by a qualified scouser) was about to be demolished, and its inhabitants were objecting to being moved to a new estate! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Back Buchanan Street (H & G Dison) From: GUEST,C3 Date: 24 Nov 09 - 03:58 PM Here is this song on You Tube with lyrics in the more info section:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1pvJIgVfic C3 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 04 Sep 00 - 06:16 PM Thanks again, Joan. So the Two Bridies, at least, are a product of my imagination. This is very disturbing! I knew I was prone to dementia but didn't realise it had set in so early. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Joan from Wigan Date: 04 Sep 00 - 02:38 AM According to the biographical details in the book: "Jacqueline McDonald and Bridie O'Donnell began singing together five years ago, and shortly afterwards gave up teaching to sing in America and Canada..." The book is dated 1969, so they were together from 1964. Although I live in Wigan now, I'm a Scouser born and bred, and well remember their folk club and the folk scene in Liverpool in the second half of the Sixties. I've never heard of either of them singing with anyone else before teaming up together. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has earlier knowledge. Joan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 03 Sep 00 - 05:40 PM So even that little improvement is not my own invention! Noreen, you are quite safe. There are many things I can't do, and one is sing. This is not false modesty, it's a fact. I just like to latch on to the songs that tell the stories of our times, and first heard this one on a chum's reel-to-reel tape, way back around the time Leeds won the FA Cup - first time. So 1965-ish. Where it was recorded and who was singing I know not, but it was two women. Someone told me they'd heard The Two Bridies singing it in Halifax around that time. I myself heard this duo on a radio show not long after that, and listened specifically for Back Buchanan Street. They didn't sing it. All I can remember of what they did sing are "Shoals of Herring" - which I see in Joan's list from the songbook - and one about a Christmas tree with no lights, by Cyril Tawney. My guess is that first there were the two Bridies,then Jacqui replaced one of them. I asked about Back Buchanan Street because I thought it deserved to be in the DT. I've always assumed that if lyrics get into these posts, they get from there into the DT by osmosis, but maybe I should check this with Joe Offer. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Joan from Wigan Date: 03 Sep 00 - 06:37 AM I've just noticed that, in my rush to get the words posted, I've missed that the chorus changes after the second verse to: Don't want to go to Kirkby Don't want to go to Speke Don't want to go from all we know In Back Buchanan Street Grovelling apologies for the oversight. Joan. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Noreen Date: 02 Sep 00 - 04:39 PM Thanks very much, Joan- an interesting mix! Noreen |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Joan from Wigan Date: 02 Sep 00 - 03:23 PM Contents of "Songs for Singing Folk": Liverpool Roving Jack Kilgary Mountain Swedish Driving Song The Four Marys I Never Will Marry Keeping 'Em Rolling Come Me Little Son Hop Tu Naa Hold Back The Dawn Two Recruiting Sergeants Beans, Bacon and Gravy Dirty Old Town Everybody Loves Saturday Night Fourpence a Day Pleasant and Delightful Cathedral In Our Time Shoals of Herring Ulverston Fair Prickly Bush Coorie Doon Back Buchanan Street Paddy's Market Time Joan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Noreen Date: 02 Sep 00 - 05:26 AM I'd like to hear that, AndyG. Hows about us organising a Jacqie & Bridie HearMe?! Joan or AndyG: Any chance of you typing in the contents list from the songbook? I'm sure it would churn up lots of long-forgotten memories! Thanks Noreen |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Joan from Wigan Date: 02 Sep 00 - 04:08 AM Fionn: You're welcome! And Dison is the spelling given in the book. Noreen: Bridie, sadly, died some years ago, but as far as I know, Jacqui is still singing. Joan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: AndyG Date: 01 Sep 00 - 07:41 PM Think I'll do this on Hearme, however yep I remember them (I've even got their songbook.
AndyG |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Noreen Date: 01 Sep 00 - 05:56 PM People who remember Jacqui and Bridie! My sister was trying to find out something about their songs recently- now I know who to ask. Are they still around? Unlikely I suppose. Fionn, from which murky depths of your memory did you dredge this, and are you intending to sing it? :0) BTW, "jigger" (verse 3)= "back alley" = "entry" = "ginnell" (etc.) depending on where you're from! Noreen |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 01 Sep 00 - 01:45 PM Joan, you're brilliant! Thanks for keying all that out - I'd no idea there were so many verses when I asked. Just one thing: "Dison" is correct spelling, is it? Thanks again. |
Subject: Lyr Add: BACK BUCHANAN STREET (H & G Dison) From: Joan from Wigan Date: 01 Sep 00 - 01:25 PM Words from "Songs for Singing Folk" (The Jacqui and Bridie Song Book): BACK BUCHANAN STREET (words and music by Harry and Gordon Dison) A fella from the council Who's just left planning school Has told us that we're bein'moved Right out of Liverpool Chorus: They're sending us to Kirkby Or Skelmersdale or Speke Don't want to go from all we know In Back Buchanan Street We'll miss a lot of little things Like puttin' out the cat For there's no back door on the fourteenth floor Of a "Unit-Camus" flat We'll miss the fog horns on the river And we'll miss the ole' Pierhead An' the short cuts through the jiggers When we're rollin' home to bed We'll miss the pub round the corner With the parlour painted red Just like we miss the Green Goddesses And the Overhead From Walton to the Dingle You'll hear the same old cry Stop messin' round with Liverpool At least until we die We'll miss the Mary Ellens And me dad'll miss the docks And me gran'll miss the washhouse Where she washed me grandad's socks They've pulled down Paddy's Market Where me ma once had a stall And soon their picks and shovels Will be through our backyard wall Pronunciation Guide: Kirkby is pronounced "Kir'bee" and Skelmersdale is pronounced "Ske'mersdale". Joan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: AndyG Date: 01 Sep 00 - 09:53 AM I knew that, honest, I really knew that, I did, honest.
Kirkby (not Corby)
Thanks Snuffy
AndyG |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Snuffy Date: 01 Sep 00 - 09:17 AM Yeah, but there's two K's in Kairby>, Andy Wassail! V |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: AndyG Date: 01 Sep 00 - 09:09 AM Oh, just noticed, yhe correct place names are:
Kirby, Skelmersdale & Speke,
AndyG |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: AndyG Date: 01 Sep 00 - 09:05 AM Jackie & Bridie were a Liverpool duo contempory to The Spinners (IIRC performing at the same club originally).
Can't remember their surnames but I do have a songbook back in Manchester, (where I'm not), which may even have this song in it. Can't remember the words either but it has been 30+ years.
The song is about forced house moves following the 1960's slum clearance schemes which affected both Liverpool and Manchester very heavily. `Skem', (Skelmersdale), being to Liverpool what Hattersley was to Manchester.
AndyG |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 01 Sep 00 - 07:34 AM So sadly I haven't produced this song out of my own imagination then, Noreen - always my first assumption when the DT can't help! That's interesting John. That coupling of names strike a chord, but it reminds me that there was a pair called the Two Bridies - they put out one or two albums I think. Would you happen to know if one Bridie is common to both duos? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: GUEST,Guest Kernow John Date: 31 Aug 00 - 06:10 PM Got this somewhere on a Jacki and Bridie album. Will dig it out if nobody beats me to it. Kernow Jon |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Noreen Date: 31 Aug 00 - 04:02 PM Yes, Fionn- Don't want to go to Kirkby, To Skelmersdale or Speke, I've got some of the words in my head from way back, & could type them up if you can't find anymore. Don't know who wrote it, but it's a song about the slum clearances in Liverpool of the 50s/ 60s, where people were moved out to such as the above places (which rapidly became synonymous with decay, neglect, unemployment etc. themselves). Got to hand over the computer to the son now so this'll have to do for now. Noreen |
Subject: Corby, Speke, Back Buchanan Street? From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 31 Aug 00 - 03:18 PM Don't want to go to Corby, Don't want to Go to Speke, Don't want to go from all I know in Back Buchanan Street. That's all I can offer. Ring a bell with anyone? Who wrote it? The second "don't want to go to" could in fact be "to Skelmersdale or". I'm fairly sure Skelmersdale comes in somewhere, but maybe not in this line. |
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