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GUEST,Conrad Bladey Peasant 04 Sep 00 - 10:11 AM
Skipjack K8 04 Sep 00 - 10:15 AM
GUEST,Philippa 04 Sep 00 - 03:58 PM
paddymac 04 Sep 00 - 04:02 PM
Quincy 04 Sep 00 - 04:24 PM
Peter K (Fionn) 04 Sep 00 - 04:59 PM
Bud Savoie 04 Sep 00 - 08:52 PM
GUEST,Annraoi 04 Sep 00 - 10:48 PM
Brendy 04 Sep 00 - 10:58 PM
Big Mick 04 Sep 00 - 11:28 PM
*Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive 05 Sep 00 - 07:59 AM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 05 Sep 00 - 08:29 AM
Lady McMoo 05 Sep 00 - 08:41 AM
Lox 05 Sep 00 - 10:42 AM
Peter K (Fionn) 05 Sep 00 - 11:29 AM
Penny S. 05 Sep 00 - 04:59 PM
GUEST,Paddy(1) 05 Sep 00 - 08:33 PM
GUEST,Annraoi 05 Sep 00 - 08:34 PM
Big Mick 06 Sep 00 - 10:51 PM
Penny S. 10 Sep 00 - 02:40 PM
GUEST,Yum Yum 10 Sep 00 - 10:06 PM
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Subject: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: GUEST,Conrad Bladey Peasant
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 10:11 AM

Here are some great orange links! For your ENJOYMENT! Purpose; have fun! Click here

click here

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Lots of wonderful orange stuff....and its all music and song! Enjoy....!

Conrad


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 10:15 AM

Come back Gargoyle, please!


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 03:58 PM

Don't you appreciate Conrad's sense of humour? Many shades of orange!


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: paddymac
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 04:02 PM

Ho hummm, Boooooring!


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Quincy
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 04:24 PM

Fair play to you Conrad.....
maybe your tunes could be played by a good Orange band like........Max Jaffa!!!!!

best wishes, Yvonne


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 04:59 PM

What about Orange Blossom Sound, Yvonne? Anyone remember them?


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 08:52 PM

Could "Orange Blossom Special" be classed as an Orange tune?

Well, Looky yonder comin', comin' down the railroad track. Yeah, looky yonder comin', comin' down the railroad track. It's that Orange Blossom Special, Bringin' my baby back.


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 10:48 PM

Cad chuige nach mb¡onn n¡os m¢ Gael ag cur in ‚adan Chonrad ? An ‚ go dtuigeann siad ‚ agus, ar dh¢igh amh in, go n-aonta¡onn siad leis ? For all of you "Paddies Evermore" across the Atlantical foam, it might suit you better if you concentrated on learning the language - the very core of Irishness and very difficult - than taking the easy way out by sniping at an Irishman who differs from your preconceptions of what an Irishman is ?
Annraoi


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Brendy
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 10:58 PM

Maith thú a h-Annraoi.

B.


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Sep 00 - 11:28 PM

Ya know, Annraoi, I could answer you in Irish but I don't think I will. I really enjoy most of your posts and love your sense of the music. But I tire of those of you born/living in Ireland looking down on us "Paddy's Evermore" in the states. In most cases you were born in Ireland. What the hell did you have to do with that???? How is it that that fact gives you the right to look down at us "Paddy's Evermore". Most of us have had every opportunity to turn our back on the culture of our ancestors, but CHOOSE to honor the customs and history of OUR people. You forget that it was a "Paddy Evermore" living in Chicago by the name of O'Neill that did more to save the language and music of our people than almost anyone. I am not looking to start a big argument over this with Irish Americans against our Irish cousins, but I get tired of the patronizing comments. I probably know as much as most of you about the history, music and culture of Ireland. And I have a fair grasp of the language. Ready for a bit of a surprise?? I am not the exception. Sure there are those weird creatures that where silly hats, funny ears and goofy shoes. And there are those who blindly send money without a true understanding of what is happening. But my guess is that there are those among the native born population that are just as bad. Give us a break, will ya. And spare us your remarks. Oh, and by the way, Conrad lives in New Jersey.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 07:59 AM

Please, please, I live in MARYLAND near New Jersey. My Inlaws live in New Jersey......> My Gaelic pages are: Click here


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:29 AM

Mick

Which O'Neill do you mean? The esteemed Capain was born in Ireland and , as far as I remember, had little if any involvement in language revival....

Regards


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:41 AM

Easy on Mick! Not all of us are like that!

Peace

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Lox
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 10:42 AM

Maybe it was Martin O'Neill (Celtics new manager).

(6-2)

};^)


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 11:29 AM

Talk about starting a row in an empty house, Annraoi! And I thought this thread was supposed to be a bit of light relief, after the ups and downs of that last one from Conrad. Anyway, you've struck a raw nerve with Big Mick - never seen him in this mood before...

So what about O'Neill, Mick? I thought he was a sergeant, but Martin Ryan says Captain, which on reflection sounds right. Or am I thinking of the one who did too little too late in 1969? As for publishing the tunes, I heard he got his beat officers to do most of the work on that front. I never knew he saved language too. I thought that was down to prods like Douglas Hyde.*BG* (O'Neill could have been a prod too, for all I know or care - whatever he was, I salute his - yes, instrumental - role in saving the music.


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Penny S.
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 04:59 PM

BBC2 Saturday 9th September, "The Irish Empire", first of a five part series exploring the history of Ireland and the migrations of its people. 4 million in the island, 70 million elsewhere.

Penny


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: GUEST,Paddy(1)
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:33 PM

Maybe it was Teddy O'Neill ("Oh I dreamed well last night, bad cess to my dreaming . . . ")

or was it Red Hugh O'Neill (the wild goose himself)

or maybe Neilson ("Everybody's talking at me . . . . ")

or was it Neilly Dunne ("Are you neilly done? Well why don't you write to your mother...")

Wasn't there Peggy as well (didn't she marry one of the O'Briens from Daingean . . . "?)

Conrad if you want BS I'm your man.

Paddy(1)


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 05 Sep 00 - 08:34 PM

Penny,
5 million plus according to the last census.
I suspect you are leaving out the northern part of the country.
Annraoi


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Big Mick
Date: 06 Sep 00 - 10:51 PM

Sorry, but that just pissed me off. As you can see, I posted at the end of a very long day. I posted language and music attributed to O'Neill. What I meant to imply is that it was that the Irish and their children (Irish Americans) living in Chicago as well as the other major enclaves of the time in Detroit, New York, Boston,etc.) that made major contributions to preserving the culture. And while I didn't make that piece of the point well, it still doesn't take away from the main contention of my post. And that is that I wish my Irish cousins would adopt more of the attitudes of the Mexican people that I once lived among. They actually honored those that cared enough about their culture to learn its customs and language. Far too many times I have heard patronizing comments about how we "shamrock Irish" don't really get it and aren't really Irish. I have honored the customs of my people from my earliest memories. The good emmigrant people I lived among insisted that I do so, for which I am the better today. I know full well where I was born. And I also know full well what I am. Remarks that categorize a whole class of people are insulting, unfair and demean that which I have spent my life studying.

Please accept my apologies for the tone of my first post and for not thinking through the facts better. But this is a pet peeve of mine.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: Penny S.
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 02:40 PM

Annraoi, I didn't count - I quoted. Very interesting program, anyway, with mostly Irish academics, or Irish American ditto, under the name of "The Scattering". It ran from the earliest history of the Irish leaving in the Dark Ages to the present, and stressed the importance of the Diaspora in the lands to which they went, including Britain. There was a noticeable trend playing down the English influence on the emigrations and finding other causes, and one speaker emphasised that there was a positive correlation between the mapping of the green and the mapping of the pink Empire. It was a co-production, many sponsors, but one was RTE, so not a Brit bias. The conclusion at the end of this episode was that the tragedy was for Ireland, not those who left.

Penny


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Subject: RE: BS: NEW ORANGE SONGS AND LYRICS
From: GUEST,Yum Yum
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 10:06 PM

Annraoi, oh that smarts! Come on, surely we have enough bickering and fighting with all the 'children' around us, without 'US' puberty infantiles starting as well! We ARE the race of Saints and Scholars, are we not? Besides both sides of the Traditional (Ballad) Divide teach us that we have to see BOTH sides to form an opinion,(Jases I can't believe I came off with that)There are some great Orange ballads in our 'Oral Tradition', you have to see them as History (from one perspective) as we see other ballads from another. There is value in most of our Traditional songs, the fact that we should learn from the past and love what we have AND each other. (what are you doing Saturday night?----only kidding!!!!) Maybe I should stop while I'm able to type out an apology, sorry I'm still celebrating my birthday. Anyway, in my humble opinion I think all Mudcatters should be made honourable 'Irish-persons.' YUM YUM. (even you Conrad)


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