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What's your strangest musical influence?

hesperis 08 Sep 00 - 03:42 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 08 Sep 00 - 03:54 PM
Wesley S 08 Sep 00 - 04:05 PM
SINSULL 08 Sep 00 - 04:20 PM
bflat 08 Sep 00 - 04:26 PM
MMario 08 Sep 00 - 04:34 PM
annamill 08 Sep 00 - 04:53 PM
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hesperis 08 Sep 00 - 05:01 PM
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Thomas the Rhymer 08 Sep 00 - 06:57 PM
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Subject: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: hesperis
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 03:42 PM

'Classical' music has had the largest influence on me, but it's not what you'd call strange... Hmm. This is a hard one.
I've always been pretty eclectic in what I like listening to.

For classical music, I'd have to say that the strangest stuff I've ever heard is Nancy Telford's 'random music' (don't know what else to call it) choral arrangement of She's Like The Swallow. There were several sections where the choir each individually sang different phrases of text on three different notes, at random tempos, and the conductor merely decided when we all would move to our next notes. It's really hard to describe.
Sort of like the crowd noise when people are waiting for the lights to go out in the theater, and everybody's talking at once, only this had some musical structure added to it. Really strange.

That experience certainly influenced my creativity when I'm writing music. The thought that music doesn't have to be nailed down to an absolute time or even note is a liberating concept during the writing stage. For me anyway.
Eventually I do nail it down, but the concept of not nailing it down is an amazing one.
So, what's your strangest musical influence?

~*sirepseh*~


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 03:54 PM

Listening to a Congolese Choir (Missa Lubba Les Troubadors Roi Baudoin sp? ) Singing "Sanctus" from the Latin Mass, to the beat of Congolese drums (used in the movie "If") very inspiring if a little odd. Otherwise I would have to say Japaneses Kibuki music. Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Wesley S
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 04:05 PM

There was a semi-classical composer by the name of Moondog { Louis Hardin } that recorded 2 LP's for Colombia back in the 70's. Great stuff. Lots of jazz influences in his composing. Plus a record I heard called "Music from the end of the world" that included the Monkey Chant and Balinese Gamalian music. I also seem to want to pick up my Martin D-18 and play riffs off of James Brown and Prince records sometimes. Something in the funk gets lost however.

A poem by Moondog said - "Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time"


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 04:20 PM

I HAD THE RARE EXPERIENCE OF BEING INVITED TO A MONASTERY IN TIBET FOR EARLY MORNING PRAYERS. A HUNDRED MONKS CHANTING, MURMERING, BLOWING STRANGE HORNS, BEATING STRANGE DRUMS, GONGS, CYMBALS. THE SMELL OF INCENSE AND YAK BUTTER LAMPS. MESMERIZING. WHEN STRESS IS AT ITS WORST, I SIT QUIETLY AND REMEMBER THOSE FEW HOURS OF TOTAL HYPNOTIC PEACE.

I HAVE DECIDED TO IGNORE MY CAPSLOCK PROBLEM AND GET ON WITH MY LIFE.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: bflat
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 04:26 PM

Learning to sing in Latin at the age of seven. I didn't have the foggest notion what I was doing but I still recall how scared I was that I was going to get it wrong. Not a good idea to foist that kind of expeience of a kid.

bflat


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: MMario
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 04:34 PM

learning to project by singing while disc-harrowing corn fields


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: annamill
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 04:53 PM

I once heard a CD by a 4-string quartet doing Metallica!!

Love, annamill


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 04:53 PM

Hildegaard von Bingen ranks right up there, also Byzantine and various other eastern European chant forms. Although I have yet to compose a song that makes use of these influences, they definitely influence my singing/phrasing.

O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: hesperis
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 05:01 PM

Wow! These all sound like they'd be really interesting. I'm going to have to make a list and find some of them.

annamill - do you remember the CD info? That is so cool!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: RWilhelm
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 05:04 PM

Peter Stampfel


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 06:57 PM

No categorization: Paul Dresher, Fred Frith (Art Bears) Beethoven's Ninth-second movement, Philip Glass, Eric Satie, Yoko Ono, Raindrops on a tin roof with a big wind blowing through trees and the sounds of a fire crackling at the hearth... and many, many more!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 07:00 PM

Well, I don't know how much I was influenced by it, but the strangest things I have ever played were Stravinsky and a tympani concerto by Daruis Milhaud. I also have this Japanese bamboo flute CD that I can't hear but half the notes on, and it is strange. Might not be quite so strange if I could hear it all. I don't think Hildegaard is strange at all.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Mbo
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 07:29 PM

The traditional Indian music performed by Ravi Shankar & friends on the "Gandhi" soundtrack.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: sophocleese
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 07:34 PM

The Fugs, scarred me for life that album my Dad got of them. That and the king in Monty Python's Fairy Tale singing "ya dee pockaty yumting ktoo!" or words to that effect.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 07:39 PM

CLICK

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: hesperis
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 08:04 PM

Great! Keep 'em coming, phoaks!

Let's have some more for the list of music so strange, that if it were played outside the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed, it would turn the Center at a 90-degree angle, inextricably altering the fabric of the space-time continuum, and leading to bands of escaped tiple players assaulting the ears of a race of space-going frogs from another dimension who are armed only with bufflebusters. (That was the closest translation of the word 'galing-galugh-guh' that I could find in the 'Intergalactic Foreign Curse Dictionary'... Honest!)

Spaw's farts have a definite influence on me. I don't know if that counts as musical though. They influence me to choke, gag, and leave the room, where I proceed to roll on the floor, laughing madly. Is the primary composition of his farts really laughing gas?
Sometimes I wonder...


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Lena
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 08:07 PM

They are not strange at all; Stravinsky has always been my greatest love(and he was a nice folkie folker...),and the cello sonata op.8 from Zoltan Kodaly ...I always get surprised of how much it affects me.When I heard it the first time,many years ago,i couldn't sleep for one week,it kept on roaring(for the first measures are a big cello roarrr)in my head.And good old Frank Zappa.Yes,I love their music so much.Anyway,I started playing clarinet because of Stravinsky's first piece for clarinet solo...i'm glad I was able to play it on an alto clarinet.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: dwditty
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 09:04 PM

'Spaw,

Your "influence" - certainly not inflatulence in your case - was on Howard Stern one morning not too long agao. I had to pull over at one point I was laughing so hard.

dw


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 10:32 PM

My warped and twisted sense of humor (hey, I play the accordion, remember?)

(Love Zappa)

Carol


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 10:38 PM

I have told the tale before for different reasons but my strangest musical influence was Jayne (who I loved but I found out had a boyfriend in prison). The influence in this case was screwing my emotions up enough to actually get me able to write a couple of tunes.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Brendy
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 11:00 PM

And a very nice tune as well, Jon.

B.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 11:15 PM

Mr. Methane.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Oversoul
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 11:27 PM

The viola has been my strangest and most rewarding musical influence. I come from a banjo, guitar, mandolin background and the viola has brought it all together. This is not a "snappy" instrument, but it can get around enough to say quite a bit when given the chance. If you like "slide" guitar styles, or have a regard for sonority, the viola might really be for you too.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Escamillo
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 11:29 PM

Spaw.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Brendy
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 11:30 PM

It's a nice instrument on a slow ballad.
Beautiful tone, a viola.

B.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Brendy
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 11:31 PM

....And it gives Irish trad a interesting angle.

B.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 08 Sep 00 - 11:46 PM

Some years ago, a young man came live on our little island, He played his guitar and sang everywhere he went. He had a very low, gravely "whiskey" voice but sang in perfect pitch. We called him "MUDFLAP". That was the first time I had ever sung with a "musician", and I was hooked. People either loved him or hated him, his style was that different. Not long after, he died of throat cancer. If we had only known. Last year, I sang with the Victoria Symphony Orchestra at a Cancer Clinic Fund Raiser, and thought of him.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: hesperis
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 06:43 AM

Jon - I know what you mean. Are you in a HearMe somewhere?

Lyrical Lady - That is a very sad, beautiful story.

Another musical influence of mine, although not strange, is Beethoven's Piano Concerto no. 5. The French Horn parts are very beautiful, and I think that's why I play horn. I grew up listening to the original recording by the Berlin Philharmonic. No other version can stir me emotionally the way that familiar, grand, magical piece can.

~*sirepseh*~


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 07:16 AM

Probably the Spike Jones, Dorothy Shay, Allan Sherman and Smothers Brothers records my Dad use to listen to with us. It's given me a lifelong infatuation with funny songs on up through Steve Goodman, Martin Mull, Frank Zappa etc.

F


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: GUEST,Rich(stupidbodhránplayerwhodoesn'tknowanybet
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 01:05 PM

OK, I've listened to a lot of bizarre stuff, and I've read odds and ends but the weirdest musical influence I have is a forum on a screen full of interesting people.

Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Megan L
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 02:30 PM

As a child I learned to sing songs in Icelandic, Hawian, french, Portuguese, German and Russian from records my big brother bought. What a pity someone told me I couldn't sing and I was stupid enough to believe them, all the words are gone now.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Mbo
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 02:34 PM

I know who my biggest influence is, but she's not strange at all!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Giac
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 02:39 PM

Yma Sumac - purported Incan princess who had some incredible umpty-nine octave vocal range.

Heard a rumor once that she was actually a Jewish girl from New York City named Amy Camus (read backwards) and that the Incan thing was all a marketing ploy. Years later I worked with a Cherokee man who swore it was true and that he had know her in NYC.

Whatever, the tales did nothing to diminish her unbelievable range and vocal control. There was one song, which the record jacket said was an Incan lullaby being sung to a dead baby. Dark is not descriptive enough, but it tested her range to its fullest. Hearing it now in my memory gives me chills.

Giac


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Callie
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 08:26 PM

The string quartet playing Metallica could have been the Australian group "Fourplay". They do a metallica song, but don't ask me which one!

One morning I heard a car horn honk two notes, and it started me off following that interval and humming a Villa Lobos tune, the name of which eludes me (Concerto d'Orangue? something like that, excuse this bad gap). The humming woke up my boy, who had heard the car horn in his sleep. He said it was the most beautiful transformation of an otherwise ugly sound. That moment will stay with me. There is so much natural rhythm and music in our everyday lives. That incident made me take a kind of calmer look at where music and inspiration comes from.

Callie


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: GUEST,Hutzul
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 09:58 PM

Yma Sumac! I couldn't remember her name.

The first time I heard Cleo Lane's voice mimic John Dankworth's instrumentals.

My Dad, when he would do a percussion kind of thing with a matchbook on his knee. Sounded like drum brushes.

At a tender age, Miriam Mikeba and "The Click Song".

And those throat singers from Siberia or whereever. Wow!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Mbo
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 10:10 PM

That's funny Callie, I'm well known for taking off singing or humming or whistling tunes when listening to dishwashers or ceiling fans or vacuums. Even loud noisy raps beats coming from cars, I start whistling some fiddle tune over it, in time with the beats, like Martyn Bennett does!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 10:10 PM

Tuva. Ask Pam Swan (p.j.) about them.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Amergin
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 10:26 PM

The Mudcat....


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Escamillo
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 11:12 PM

Giac, I attended an Yma Sumac concert in a restaurant in Lima, she was in her late sixties and her voice was diminished,but was still extraordinary. Even in front of the reality of the decline of the artist, the audience listened to her in absolute silence and applauded respectfully and with enthusiasm. It was shocking to see that loyal attitude. I don't know why she was never internationally recognized as a star singer, I guess it was a wrong management who had "pidgeonholed" her into an exotic and rather artificial style.

Un abrazo - Andrés


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: hesperis
Date: 09 Sep 00 - 11:44 PM

Megan - many commiserations. I hope you're singing again now. One of the things which gets me very angry is the attitude some people have that some people are 'creative' and some aren't, or that some people can sing and some can't.

Maybe we can't all sing like [insert famous singer here], but that's no reason for people to get prejudiced against any individual voice. Grr!

Hey Mbo - When I was very young, I always used to pretend that I could hear angels singing in the sound of the vacuum cleaner. I'd sing along, too.
I guess the harmonics of my mother's Hoover sounded really good to me!
I still write my best melodies over a drone...
I'd forgotten about that, thank you!

This Yma Sumac person sounds pretty cool, I wonder what I can find about her on the net...


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: GUEST,Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 12:04 AM

Spaw is my strangest musical influence.

Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 12:36 AM

You all, definitely.

Also my friend Steve, who plays "Stairway to Heaven" as a bluegrass song. And another friend who plays "Smoke on the Water" on banjo ...

The strangest musical experience I've ever had was sitting in an auditorium in Casper, Wyoming, listening to the Tibetan monks do their multi-tonal throat singing. Each man was doing about three different tones, so eight men were making 24 individual sounds. Simply astounding.

The strangest-in-a-horrible-way was when the guest composer for the Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival was Charles Wuorinen and the festival musicians played the world premiere of his rendition of Dylan Thomas' "A Winter's Tale," which is lovely poetry, but not when sung in 12-tone scales full of screeching dissonance and the most unmusical music one could imagine.

One of the soprano solos, I swear to Heaven, sounded as though someone were using instruments of torture to get that lovely woman to produce such hideosities. And at her very shrillest, screechiest moment, I looked over at the museum guard standing at the back of the auditorium -- he had nothing to do with the festival, he was just hired to keep out the riffraff -- and his mouth was literally gaping with the shock and horror of it. My eye caught his and he tried quickly to recover his soldierly detachment, but it was too late. I was trying so hard not to laugh that I was making little snorting noises and then he got so amused at that that HE started chortling. And then we both were standing back at the back of the auditorium shaking with suppressed laughter and first one person, then another heard us -- and believe me, they were all in almost as much pain as the soprano -- and ... well, I had to leave the auditorium because I was afraid I was going to instigate open guffawing.

And how did that influence me? Hmmmm, well, mmmmm ... I'm pretty sure if anyone ever asked me to sing the lead in a work by Wuorinen, I'd find it really easy to decline...

ww


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Giac
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 06:39 AM

Here are a couple of links to Yma Sumac info:

Official Yma

Yma Music Page

She sang in a couple of movies, one was "Secret of the Incas," and it runs on cable every so often.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Lena
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 07:26 AM

Viola is an instrument I adore.Many years ago I used to be crazy about a recording of Brhams' first string quartet.The allegro section was played actually faster than the average,and in the turmoil of the music you could hear the viola shining clear and strong...so,when I was told that clarinet has the same range of violas,I picked it up.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: kendall
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 04:58 PM

Singing Roy Acruff songs with my brothers while digging clams!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: oggie
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 05:55 PM

Peter Peers singing the Agnus Dei from Benjamin Britten's 'War Requiem'. At the time (I was about 10) I had decided I didn't like singing and wasn't musical. The sheer passion of the piece and the beauty of the voice convinced me that it was worth trying.

All the best

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Benjamin
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 06:24 PM

Angelit, a group from Finland.
I listen to lots of soul/r&b and for some reason, the horn players have the most influnce (like Jr. Walker, Hugh Masekela- okay, he's not really soul).
Courtry Blues guitarists (ie Brownie McGhee, John Jackson, etc.) have lots of influnce on me (but th's not odd to anyone who's heard them).
Bross Townsend is absolutly amazing!
If it's another sad story, a man by the name of Bruce Jay Pascow use to live by me. He was a member of The Washington Squares and was a mentor to me musically before he died in 94. I could go on forever about who's influnced me. What I've learned though is that everyone you listen to has something to offer in the form of influnce. From classical guitarists to blues guitarists to jazz pianist (that would be Bross!) to soul singers/horn players to musicians all around the world. I try to take in from everybody I listen to!


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From: guinnesschik
Date: 10 Sep 00 - 07:31 PM

Marty Robbins singing "Gunfighter Ballads." To this day, I love songs in which people die horribly. At three, I could sing all of "Blood On The Saddle."


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Escamillo
Date: 11 Sep 00 - 12:16 AM

Not strange, but the musical influence which brought me to this site was PAUL ROBESON. It was one if his songs that caused my first question to Mudcatters, and I received immediate and gentle attention.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's your strangest musical influence?
From: Metchosin
Date: 11 Sep 00 - 01:46 AM

My dog Worty. He may not quite have the vocal range of Yma Sumac but he's close, even if his pitch does wander a tad and he's a great duet partner. And on top of that he has soulful eyes.


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