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Lyr Req: Rhythm of the Rain (from The Cascades)

Peter Timmerman 14 Aug 97 - 02:14 PM
Mountain Dog 14 Aug 97 - 02:39 PM
Allan Samuels 14 Aug 97 - 02:57 PM
Sheye 14 Aug 97 - 03:01 PM
Sheye 14 Aug 97 - 03:08 PM
Peter Timmerman 14 Aug 97 - 03:14 PM
Sheye 14 Aug 97 - 03:38 PM
Peter T. 14 Aug 97 - 03:52 PM
PattyG 14 Aug 97 - 07:55 PM
Joe Offer 14 Aug 97 - 08:23 PM
Alan of Australia 14 Aug 97 - 08:32 PM
Alan of Oz 15 Aug 97 - 03:53 AM
Peter Timmerman 15 Aug 97 - 11:21 AM
PattyG 15 Aug 97 - 11:38 AM
Jon W. 15 Aug 97 - 11:57 AM
Alan of Oz 15 Aug 97 - 12:23 PM
Rodney Rawlings 15 Aug 97 - 12:57 PM
Rodney Rawlings 15 Aug 97 - 01:07 PM
Peter Timmerman 15 Aug 97 - 02:00 PM
Bill 15 Aug 97 - 02:15 PM
Peter T. 15 Aug 97 - 02:24 PM
alison 15 Aug 97 - 11:53 PM
Rodney Rawlings 16 Aug 97 - 07:54 PM
Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca 17 Aug 97 - 10:54 PM
Elsie 18 Aug 97 - 08:58 AM
Coralena 18 Aug 97 - 09:04 AM
Bert Hansell 18 Aug 97 - 09:15 AM
Bill in Alabama 18 Aug 97 - 09:23 AM
Alan of Oz 18 Aug 97 - 10:10 AM
PattyG 18 Aug 97 - 02:21 PM
Peter Timmerman 18 Aug 97 - 03:05 PM
PattyG 19 Aug 97 - 12:03 PM
19 Aug 97 - 12:08 PM
Peter T. 19 Aug 97 - 04:26 PM
rechal@earthlink.net 19 Aug 97 - 05:06 PM
Elsie 19 Aug 97 - 05:16 PM
PattyG 19 Aug 97 - 06:20 PM
LaMarca 20 Aug 97 - 10:17 AM
Whip 20 Aug 97 - 10:44 AM
Peter T. 20 Aug 97 - 12:12 PM
Jerry Friedman, jfriedman@nnm.cc.nm.us 20 Aug 97 - 04:51 PM
ptimmerman@ifias.ca 20 Aug 97 - 05:16 PM
Peter T. 20 Aug 97 - 05:24 PM
Sheye 20 Aug 97 - 07:35 PM
Earl 20 Aug 97 - 10:52 PM
Bert Hansell 21 Aug 97 - 09:18 AM
Sheye 21 Aug 97 - 09:37 AM
Peter T. 21 Aug 97 - 10:43 AM
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Subject: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter Timmerman
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 02:14 PM

Expecting righteous folkish wrath, but here goes anyway. I am compiling (for obscure enviro reasons) songs about rain, and have been unable to find any way of locating the title or singer of a famous pop song of the 60's which goes, "Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain, telling me just what a fool I've been, for little did she know that when she left that day, along with her she took my heart". For some reason, it just won't be found. I am sure somebody will know this, so could you just sneak it in here to me while no one is watching? I think there might even be a more recent version, by somebody like (but not) Michael Bolton. It is driving me a little crazy. I have tried Billboard charts, search engines, etc. No luck. Anyone? Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 02:39 PM

Dear Peter,

I know the tune "Listen to the Rhythm of the Fallin Rain" was covered by and a hit for Gary Lewis and The Playboys in about '65 or so. I'm pretty sure, however, that it was originallly done by another group.

Hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Allan Samuels
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 02:57 PM

I'm at work ans this computer is so slow I can't check for you but Chad and Jeremy come to mind. The other possibility is Peter and Gordon. Both were popular in the sixties.

Hope this solves it for you.

Allan


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Subject: Lyr Add: RHYTHM OF THE RAIN
From: Sheye
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 03:01 PM

Did a broad search. Don't have artist or date or etc.,
will the words do?

* RHYTHM OF THE RAIN *

Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain,
Telling me just what a fool I've been.
I wish that it would go and let me cry in vain
And let me be alone again.

The only girl I care about has gone away
Looking for a brand new start,
But little does she know that when she left that day,
Along with her she took my heart.

Rain, please tell me, now does that seem fair
For her to steal my heart away when she don't care?
I can't love another when my heart's somewhere far away.

Rain, won't you tell her that I love her so?
Please ask the sun to set her heart aglow.
Rain in her heart and let the love we know start to grow.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Sheye
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 03:08 PM

Hi. Me again. Tune and lyrics can be heard/read at http://cse.unl.edu/~hkok/

Enjoy.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter Timmerman
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 03:14 PM

Dear Sheye, Why aren't you packing? Anyway, this is my frustration, I know the words, but there is something about the title and the artist that doesn't surface. Dear Mountain Dog, I have tried Web pages for Gary Lewis (21 top hits, but not including the one I seek). Dear Allan, I don't think so, but I will try. Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Sheye
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 03:38 PM

As per the address listed above, the group is the Cascades. (Who?). Still no date though... Anybody heard of them? I'm packing as soon as I get home...I'm guessing hot & muggy, yes?


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter T.
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 03:52 PM

The Cascades! Now we are getting somewhere. Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: PattyG
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 07:55 PM

No,no,no......at least I don't think so. Not the Cascades! Surely not! It was a solo by someone like Bobby Vee or I don't know, actually, more of C/W singer I think (at least had that "flavor".) I'll check with my son when he gets home - he's the music meister. Wait a minute - Glen Campbell? No.....oh well, I'll think of it.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 08:23 PM

Johnny Tillotson? Now where is Elsie when we need her? Oh, what an awful song! And I know every word, and it's been running through my head ever since this thread was first posted.....
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 14 Aug 97 - 08:32 PM

Yes, yes, yes.........I'm sure it was the Cascades - at least in this country. I'm also sure I've got it on an old compilation LP which I haven't played for years. Maybe it will list the author. As Sheye suggested the title was "Rhythm of the Rain".

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Alan of Oz
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 03:53 AM

Just arrived home from work. It's Friday evening and the weekend has started. My "20 Fabulous Hits of the 60's" (yeah really!) LP has "Rhythm Of The Rain" sung by The Cascades". The only clue to the songwriter is that the label says Gummoe. That didn't help me much either.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter Timmerman
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 11:21 AM

Dear All, Many thanks for sneaking this information onto the site for me. I hope none of you were arrrested passing through customs. At least I have a group name (and thanks to Alan, a confirmed sighting!), but it remains weird, for such a wellknown song. I keep thinking that there is a solo version (by Gummoe? Wasn't he a Marx brother?). And of course when you try search engines with Cascades, all you get are a bunch of damn mountains. As I said, it is a start, and I am grateful. If anything else, like a date, turns up, run the gauntlet and add it, please! Yours, Peter

P.S. Perhaps a new dimension could be added to this, speaking of confirmed sightings. Close Encounters of the First Kind: some vague reference to a song. Close Encounters of the Second Kind: an actual reference, but without corroboration. Close Encounters of the Third Kind: contact! (er, a record or sheet music or whatever!)


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: PattyG
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 11:38 AM

Okay,okay,okay.....so it was the Cascades! *Somebody* also told me that "Rhythm of the Rain" was recorded by Dan Fogelberg......hm-m-m....is there a Jon Fogelberg? Anyway, that's what I *heard*.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Jon W.
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 11:57 AM

With a song to be so well known, and with origins so obscure, maybe it really is a FOLK SONG. TTFN, I've got to go throw more rocks at hornet's nests -)


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Alan of Oz
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 12:23 PM

According to this site Rhythm of the Rain sung by The Cascades reached number 3 on the charts in 1963.

And this site has lyrics without mentioning the songwriter.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Rodney Rawlings
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 12:57 PM

It was The Cascades, and I've always loved the record. I like their followup record even more: The Last Leaf. It goes:

The last leaf
Clings to the bough.
Just one leaf
That's all there is is now.

Very moving record - check it out.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Rodney Rawlings
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 01:07 PM

I'm quite sure the correct lines are "let me cry in PAIN" and "the love we knew." (Less sure about the latter, though it is wrong in the posting.)


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter Timmerman
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 02:00 PM

Well, er, gee thanks again. Rodney, were The Cascades a white group or a black group, American? All I generate are these (lovely, I'm sure) damn mountains. Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Bill
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 02:15 PM

Howdy Peter,

Yeah, I remember the song and have nothing to add about it. However, the reference to the "damn mountains" by the name of the Cascades brought me out of my silence. At least you temepered the feeling some in the last post with "lovely damn mountains." The Cascades is/are a magnificent range of mountains often divided into the North and South Cascades with lots of volcanic peaks. I've been fortunate enough to backpack there a few of times and count the views among the best I have ever seen. They certainly inspired me to sing many songs on the trails.

Allinkausay, Bill


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 02:24 PM

...just what a fool I've been. I apologise to all animate and inanimate life forms I may have offended. May blessings cascade upon them, from all points of the known universe. Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: alison
Date: 15 Aug 97 - 11:53 PM

Hi

Just a little addition Jason Donovan murdered this song about 5 years ago.

Slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Rodney Rawlings
Date: 16 Aug 97 - 07:54 PM

I've always assumed they were a "white group," but I don't think of music in such terms. (See http://www.druid.net/~rodney/.)


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 17 Aug 97 - 10:54 PM

Yes, it was the Cascades. Many years ago my sister had the 45. I'm sure you can find it on one of those Old Time Rock And Roll compilations.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Elsie
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 08:58 AM

here's my ritual grump-I'm sure you all can't properly relax until you see it

GRUMP


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Coralena
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 09:04 AM

I believe Ricky Nelson also sang this one.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 09:15 AM

Elsie,
That was lovely

Thanks, Bert.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Bill in Alabama
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 09:23 AM

Peter: Rhythm of the Rain was written by John C. Gummoe. It is listed with BMI, and was published by Warner-Tammerlane Publishing Co. It was also a BMI aware-winning song. There is no year listed for publication.

You can check copyright, publisher, writers, etc. at the BMI site: http://bmi.com.cgi-bin/ctitl

(By, there are nine other songs of that title listed with BMI; that's probably why some folks got confused about who recorded it).


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Alan of Oz
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 10:10 AM

Elsie,
Thanks, I was feeling just a little bit guilty about contributing to this thread although I was enjoying it. I'm feeling much more relaxed now.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: PattyG
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 02:21 PM

My apologies to Bessie but this bulletin just in:

Dan Fogelberg did do a version... From: http://bspaa.com/Artist/Fogelberg/Fogelberg_disc.html

The Wild Places (Full Moon/Epic), August 1990. Produced by Dan Fogelberg. Recorded in Colorado, Hawaii and Los Angeles. Includes nine original songs plus Bruce Cockburn's "Lovers In A Dangerous Time" and Dan's rendition of the Cascades' "Rhythm Of The Rain." ..........................................................................

...and Floyd Cramer... ...and Jan & Dean... ...and Johnny Tillotson...

While I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread, I do have a question for Peter; Is this more than you *ever* wanted to know about that song??!!


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter Timmerman
Date: 18 Aug 97 - 03:05 PM

Dear Patty, No, I am ashamed to say I love this stuff (why else would I be here?) Just to add one piece: I have learned that the Cascades came from San Diego, California, and that John Gummoe was the vocalist/guitarist.

And now Dan Fogelberg.

I mean, I get an express e-mail from Bill of Alabama. I get bulletins raining down from TUS (The USUAL SUSPECTS). And a thread note from Elsie! I mean is this a slice of heaven or what? Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: PattyG
Date: 19 Aug 97 - 12:03 PM

Yes, indeed, I see just what you mean! THis has been such fun! Got any other questions for the group?:)


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From:
Date: 19 Aug 97 - 12:08 PM

Who wrote the book of love?


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter T.
Date: 19 Aug 97 - 04:26 PM

And who put the bop in the bop she bop she bop? (etc.)

Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: rechal@earthlink.net
Date: 19 Aug 97 - 05:06 PM

Peter T.: Probably the same clown who put the wham in the rama-lama-ding dong.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Elsie
Date: 19 Aug 97 - 05:16 PM

I wont be baited--I won't, I won't! I am pulling the covers over my head right now and playing a tape of 'Instrumental Music of the Southern Appalacians' to ward off evil.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: PattyG
Date: 19 Aug 97 - 06:20 PM

Hahahahahah!!!! !!!!! Thanks Elsie! What a hoot!


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: LaMarca
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 10:17 AM

Then again, why do fools fall in love?

Peter, at some of the outdoor folk festivals that I crew for, our chief sound guy has various tapes he plays to check out the speaker systems. We ALWAYS get rain sometime during either set-up or the actual festival, and Steve almost always brings the systems back up playing "I Can See Clearly, Now the Rain is Gone..." Don't know the artist, but it might fit your collection; and, yes, it is another dreaded pop song from the late 60's-early 70's!


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Whip
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 10:44 AM

Elsie, don't be too hard on us. Remember, all our "traditional" folk music was once popular music. Face it, even Mozart was a "pop" writer in his day.

This bunch is just about 200 years ahead of the rest of the world, that's all.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter T.
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 12:12 PM

Perhaps we have reached a kind of solution to the pop/folk problem on this site. There needs to be one dark hole where all this stuff can be brought out into the open, so as to take the pressure off. I deliberately posted a warning sign (sort of like a red light district). There was a policy in England's National Trust called the "honeypot" approach, where, in a beautiful place (like the Lake District) they would designate one spot to be destroyed by tourists (bees to the honkey-tonk honeypot), so they would leave everywhere else alone. This may be that place!!

Dear LaMarca, I haven't inflicted my "Rain" project (except for the Cascades) on this site. But "I Can See Clearly Now" is a good song: the best version was done by Holly Cole.

Dear Elsie, do you wear pajamas under those covers?

Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Jerry Friedman, jfriedman@nnm.cc.nm.us
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 04:51 PM

English exercise: how many ways can you punctuate "I can see clearly now the rain is gone" so it makes sense? How many meanings can it have? I like that song too, so I was amazed to learn it's by Johnny Cash.

For your water-song project, Peter, I hope you're looking into the work of Peter Gabriel. His many songs having to do with water include probably my favorite Genesis song, "Firth of Fifth", and possibly my favorite song of the rock era, "Here Comes the Flood". (And if I knew your e-mail address I'd send this to you personally instead sullying the folk forum by talking about (superb) pop music.)

Of course there are a million songs from the Canadian Maritimes having at least a little to do with water. One odd one is "Ah, the Sea", by the Folk of the Sea (on the same album as "Wry Man", for which I'd like to remind everybody that I requested lyrics). Not what you'd call traditional, but I like it.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: ptimmerman@ifias.ca
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 05:16 PM

Dear Jerry, Thanks. I have avoided making a request because there are a zillion rain and water songs, and I am trying to do something quite specific -- it has to do with musical landscapes. But I liked Here Comes the Flood too. But is it really true that Johnny Cash wrote "I Can See Clearly Now?" I thought it was some Caribbean group. It is amazing, as you said. I will have to find his version. Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter T.
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 05:24 PM

A brief Netscan suggests it is by someone called Johnny Nash. A different person, I presume -- the Caribbean gent perhaps? Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Sheye
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 07:35 PM

Still on holidays (Ottawa now), but had to stop by for a fix... Careful Jerry, there are those of us who think Johnny Cash is GOD! (Please don't tell Elsie; in my dream world I am her malleable child, and she will always love me). Peter: into every blackhole a little rain must fall? I think I'm punchdrunk. That actually seems funny. Will adieu before I embarass myself. See you in the lumiere rouge.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Earl
Date: 20 Aug 97 - 10:52 PM

It was definately Johnny Nash (a one hit wonder from Jamaica) and you would recognize it instantly if you heard it. The Deighton Family also do a cool version.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Bert Hansell
Date: 21 Aug 97 - 09:18 AM

Sheye,

Are you trying to tell me that Johnnie Cash ISN'T God?

Bert.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Sheye
Date: 21 Aug 97 - 09:37 AM

Bert:

(I think it's supposed to be a secret. ssshhh.)


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Aug 97 - 10:43 AM

Dear Sheye, to rephrase a Bible quote, if this is what you are like in Ottawa as a mere punchdrunk tourist, what will you be like in Quebec City? Yours, Peter


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Jerry Friedman
Date: 21 Aug 97 - 01:22 PM

Thanks for the Johnny correction, folks. You've restored my faith in J. Cash's essential... guess I'd better not finish that sentence.


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Subject: RE: WARNING!: POP SONG REQUEST
From: Sheye
Date: 21 Aug 97 - 06:10 PM

Peter:

Quebec va souvenir>>>

The rest of the planet: Quebec's motto is "I will remember"; my reply to Peter is "Quebec will remember!


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