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Subject: What is going on here? From: Selma or Patty Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:42 AM I am quite flabbergasted. On Saturday night, I was at a coffeehouse folk music concert and someone told me about Mudcat Cafe. He said it was full of nice people who all love folk music. Well, in reading through the Forum threads over the past two days, I've been amazed at the extent of the nastiness and outright hatred that runds through so many of the threads. I'm sure that most of you are very nice people, but this does not seem like a very nice place to me.
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: GUEST,James Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:46 AM Well, most of us are very nice people. We often disagree, but that is natural ...and healthy. I wish you would give us an example of this natiness and hate that you see, |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MMario Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:48 AM Selma or Patty - the MudCat like any other group - goes through periods of tension. And though it is neither a defense nor excuse, if you think the Mudcat has nastiness you should see other forums on the 'net. I have never seen as much nastiness at the 'cat as I routinely see on most other forums I monitor. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Naemanson Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:48 AM What threads have you not been reading. I see what you see but the nice thing about the site is that I can choose not to see some things. Sure, there are some nasty things being said. Some of them are spoken in haste and others out of sheer mean spiritedness. But, and this is important, there are a lot of very nice things being said here as well. Keep looking. Oh, and welcome to the Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Tinker Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:53 AM I have to agree I'm glad I stumbled in hear a few weeks ago. The last few days were a bit off, and I'm glad a few threads have disappeared. I spent the last two weeks handing out the web address to everyone I knew who had similar interests. Including the reference libraian for Episcopal House (The Diosease of Newark!) I'm really hoping that they've been too busy to check things out and that things will get back to the more TOC, intelligent, and warm community I was talking about. It wasn't till I was reading last night that I realized that some refreshed threads weren't just to help me learn why NPR might not want to recognize music from the first three decades. Please go back to what you do best Really Selma and Patty it's great! Of course my Three Piece suit husband is now grinning and threatening to grow up and be just like Spaw ....Just what did I get into??? Tinker
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: wysiwyg Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:06 AM Aw, they gotcha. Selma and Patty are the two disgruntled, complaining, crabby, negative-minded sisters of TV's Marge Simpson. They hate everything Marge holds dear.
~Susan
~Homer
~Lisa
~Bart
~Maggie ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: SINSULL Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:17 AM And they smoke around the children. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Selma or Patty Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:27 AM Excuse me, but my REAL name happens to be Patty. The person who told me about Mudcat Cafe said that I should make up a nickname that's based on my name. I happen to be a very positive person, I do not smoke and I do not allow smoking in my home. My children are both in college and doing very well. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MartinRyan Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:33 AM Selma or Patty Hang in there/here! Just watch out for threads that interest you , mark them with TRACE and concentrate on those, doing the odd trawl for new ones to add to the list. You'll soon develop an instinct for what/who/where to avoid. If you're interested in the music, the pluses outweigh the minuses. Regards |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:40 AM We get a bit paranoid sometimes about people stirring things up, and sometimes that is appropriate - for example, I suspect that GUEST James is a stirrer.
It gets a bit loud here, and a bit heated at times -rarely nasty. Sometimes there are real disagreements, and its not a bad idea to get them out in the open, and see if there is some way around them. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: SINSULL Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:45 AM Could we just let this die - 300,000 posts and counting. This serves no purpose and I apologize for continuing it with this post. There is another re:MichaelK - let it die. Please. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: sledge Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:45 AM Patty, put out a request for help and you will soon find out how many nice folk are on the Mudcat. From what I've seen so far it need not even be about music. Sledge |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: GUEST Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:53 AM the problem is the bleeding heart mudcatters who see every second song or joke or expression as a slur against the blacks, the jews or the gypsies. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: GUEST,James Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:58 AM Guest...identify yourself...it is just a matter of curtesy, don't you think ? |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: wysiwyg Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:11 PM And I was on the run and missed that Selma or Patty had joined, not posting a GUEST. (Actually trying to get some work done for a change and multi-tasking.) Whoever you are, and whyever you posted-- this is a good forum. I hope you will be a positive contributor. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Selma or Patty Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:15 PM In the 90 minutes that have passed since I started this thread, my observations about Mudcat have proven true, just in this thread.
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:30 PM One remarkably nasty bit of graffiti from a nameless source(and there's no way to stop that, it's the nature of the medium) - but the rest was pretty friendly. A bit suspicious maybe at times, but there's a history to that.
Ol' Bill in a first world war shellhole said "If you know of a better 'ole, go to it" - I'm not saying that, because it's not a welcoming thing to say. But if you know of a better 'ole on the Internet, let us know. I've found nothing approaching the Mudcat when it comes to quality of information and quality of friendship and of interesting argument. It'd be good to have something to fall back on on the occasions when the Mudcat crashes.
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: paddymac Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:35 PM Well, SorP, I don't know what threads you'vre read, or what topics you might (or might not) be interested in, but what you will see if you look is that the notion and fact of free speech is very much alive and well at Mudcat. There are peoople here whose comment I always look forward to, and some I chose to ignore. And then there's the occasional flammer, sometimes a member and sometimes not. But the only thing worse is to think that they have no right to be here simply someone does not agree with their views. Narrow-minded people come in many varieties, just like the rest of us, but they are generally not among my personal favorites. I respectfully suggest you lighten-up and loosen-up and quit being judgmental. It does not become you. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MMario Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:38 PM 90 minutes on a site with 300,000 posts proves nothing. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Alice Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:50 PM Patty, I sent you a personal message welcome and some links to memorable Mudcat threads. I hope you can soon find the majority that is good here. The links I sent you are threads that really have some worthwhile discussions. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: catspaw49 Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:55 PM We see what we want to see many times. Stick around and look through the threads for things you like and ignore the shinola. If you know of a better place......OK. A lot of folks haven't found one. Welcome to the 'Cat....if you choose. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Selma or Patty Date: 18 Sep 00 - 12:58 PM Thank you Alice. I just read your message. I also got another message, from someone I won't dignify by naming, calling me a troll and telling me to f--- off. I truly don't understand the nastiness and rudeness here. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Alice Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:04 PM Patty, if I had just found Mudcat and read only a few of the threads that are around right now, I also may have asked "What is going on here?" It's a shame that you were insulted in a personal message just as you were getting to know this place. I think your question was worth asking, and I hope people realize that Mudcat for newcomers is the slice of whatever threads they first come upon. If you stay, I think you will find better discussions and better people to communicate with than the one who sent you that message. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: GUEST Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:09 PM If you don't like it, just fuck off. We had our fun before you came here and we'll have our fun after you're gone. Who are you really? Rodney "why can't we get along, boo hoo" King? |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MMario Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:10 PM Patty - also think what most people's reactions would be, should a newcomer walk into the coffeehouse (for example) listen for a short while and then stand and loudly announce "Well this place sucks, and you're all a bunch of rude obnoxious people"
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Selma or Patty Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:18 PM I'm sorry MMario, that is not what I suugested. I said that I was surprised by the nastiness and even hatred that I read in some of the threads. I also said that I was sure that most people here were very nice. I'm sorry, but it only takes a few to make someone feel now wanted.
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MMario Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:25 PM Lest you get the idea that I am knocking you, I did not mean that as a personal attack of any kind. However your initial post in this thread could quite easily be taken as a commment very similair to that in my example above. I'm sure you did not intend it that way -- but in this day and age it seems not to be intent that matters but rather perception. I'm not sure why the general atmosphere on the 'cat has been riled up yet again, but truthfully, we sometimes go for weeks without an obnoxious thread - and frequently the number of music threads outweigh all the others; which may be ignored in any case. I would also ask pardon for those of us who have sufferred through multiple onslaughts of "trolls" (in the internet sense) as it tends to make some of us suspicious and touchy. my two cents worth. You don't happen to own a copy of child's ballads, do you? |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:35 PM I have the complete Child Ballads at my library...any good? |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MMario Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:42 PM Mbo - something for you to do in your 'spare' time. transcribe it and post! *grin* |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: catspaw49 Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:46 PM Hey Mario, have you talked to Sandy about getting some of what you need from him on a loaner/temporary or whatever basis? He might also know of a source where you could do that if he can't. He's "Finest Kind"...ya' know? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:51 PM MMario, my opinion about why we went weeks without an obnoxious thread and why we've got 'em now is...we went weeks without the obnoxious person who posted them, and now he's come back hungry for more attention. Patti, we're a diverse bunch of people, and not all of us are sane or nice. The mean people are a very small minority, (maybe 2 or 3 people out of hundreds) although we can all be upset if we let them get to us. "GUEST" up there is one of the meanies. They have no power unless we give it to them. (And some folks will continually do that.) So, it either becomes a closed group, where one must be a member to post and members can be kicked out by disobeying rules, or it's open to all. I'd rather we all learned how to ignore the meanies. When we don't, we turn into meanies, too. "Please don't feed the sharks." Welcome to Mudcat. Please hang around for a while, and get to know our best as well as our worst. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MMario Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:52 PM gee, spaw, I keep hoping someone else will come forward and say _ "Hey!" I have access to that! I'll copy it out and post it....." or even several someones. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MMario Date: 18 Sep 00 - 01:54 PM Deep down, I'm one of the "not nice" ones. Some doays it ain't as deep down. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 00 - 02:07 PM MMario, you sweetie, you flamed me once, and I still think you're nice! ;-) Deep down, we're all monsters waiting to get past the layer of niceness that makes us care about how other people feel. It's that buffer layer that counts, and some just ain't got it. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Kim C Date: 18 Sep 00 - 03:21 PM Just like with any group of people, some are sweet, and some ain't. It's the yin and yang of the universe. Sometimes people say not so nice things but I usually just ignore them. :) But MMario can do no wrong since he gave me the Chocolate Heffalump recipe. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: wysiwyg Date: 18 Sep 00 - 03:29 PM SorP, There is also a regular cycle here, as in most communities, that when anything too positive or glorious is going on, such as excellent and thoughtful discussions over potenmtially controversial topics, certain folks just have to break the positivity and wade in with crap. To tear down whatever good was done. You may have wandered in during that crap phase and gotten mistaken for part of it. The proof is usually in the pudding, though, and if you enjoy this forum and contribute to it positively you will reap many blessings, as have we all. In any event, come on over to the Tavern thread, last I checked we were all having a pretty goood time there. Introduce yourself! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jolly Date: 18 Sep 00 - 03:36 PM Hey, I'm new here, too, and nobody has been anything BUT nice to me. (I've been warned that might not last, but I'm pretty sure that was a friendly warning for teasing that may come after I'm used to the place) I've been invited to Hearme even though I can't perform, and had nice "conversations" with several people. I've heard new music and some familiar ones and I LIKE THIS PLACE! Most of the "bad remarks" I've read seem to be between people who "know" each other and are just having an argument - I'll just stay out of the way on those. Kim |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jeri Date: 18 Sep 00 - 03:36 PM Sorry for the thread creep about to happen. Kim C, he gave you a Chocolate Heffalump recipe? Oh MMMMMMMario!!!! I love you dearly, you sweet, cuddly man! (Would you PM me the recipe please?)...(What's a "Heffalump?") P.S. - I was over-exaggerating about the "flame." And now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion... |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 18 Sep 00 - 03:38 PM Ya Selma or Patty... this place sucks... ya'd better not come back here anymore eh... {~` |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: guinnesschik Date: 18 Sep 00 - 03:40 PM I'd like to welcome SorP, too. Mudcatters are (like the rest of humanity) a widely varied bunch. If you stick around, ask for help, post a comment that doesn't knock the cafe (setting yourself up) you'll see, for the most part, a really nice, intellegent, sharing group of people. It works as a true community. I'm realtively new here myself, and have truly enjoyed the forum. "Good" and "bad" threads, alike. Lighten up a wee bit, and check out the Mudcat Tavern For Tatterbrains thread. Guaranteed to soothe your soul. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: DougR Date: 18 Sep 00 - 04:14 PM Welcome, Patty. I think if you will take a look at the "Help and Healing" thread, you will get a much different view of the Mudcat. That thread will, in my opinon, grow and grow with messages from concerned members of this community. DougR |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: paddymac Date: 18 Sep 00 - 04:16 PM Hmm. Maybe the anonymous guest at 1:09pm should take his own advice. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: mousethief Date: 18 Sep 00 - 04:24 PM Well, I want to add my voice to the fray. Welcome, SorP (are you two people, or one interchangeable one?) to Mudcat. Take the good with the bad. Roll with the punches. Illegitimi non carborundum. Keep yer beaver up (whatever THAT means). Ignore the creeps. Laugh at my jokes. (Sorry; a little personal plug there.) Welcome, welcome welcome!
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jed at Work Date: 18 Sep 00 - 04:29 PM Selma or Patty - I hope you stick around for a bit, and give Mudcat time. You'll see a lot of stuff worthwhile. I prbably spend more time in the DT then I do at the forum, or reading through the old music threads, but I do get sucked into some of the 'opinion' threads form time-to-time, and have seen some of the nastiness and even hatefulness you've alluded to (occasionally had it aimed at me). But it's easy to ignore, and it isn't prevalent. You'll find some great folks posting here, some good thoughts, and some wonderful music. I am happy to say I'm a Mudcat fan! |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: CarolC Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:24 PM Selma or Patty, Welcome to the Mudcat. Things have seemed a bit contentious around here lately. But that's just on some threads. If you want, you can ignore those threads. There are also some deeply thought-provoking, loving, light hearted, and even silly threads as well. I would like to recommend "b. Say a prayer for Dirty", "Mudcat Tavern for tatterbrains", and, yes, even "Don't Post to This Thread, Either". I also second DougR's suggestion about reading the Help and Healing thread. I've only been here for a few months, but already the Mudcat feels like family to me, and I've even become good friends with one or two people since I've been here. I stay out of the threads that make me feel uncomfortable. I'm having a great time in the ones that I like. Best wishes, Carol |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: CarolC Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:33 PM P.S. Don't take any of the verbal sparring between Spaw and Little Hawk (or between Spaw and anyone else, for that matter), seriously. They're just having fun in their own way. Carol |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Lonesome EJ Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:35 PM Selma and Patty...thanks for the audition.If we 'd known you were coming we'd have been on our best behavior. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jon Freeman Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:43 PM Selma or Patty, Welcome, but one thing that is often reccomended in FAQs for forums is to lurk a while. This is not to suggest that someone should not come straight in with a question or opinion but to suggest that maybe people are best advised to get a feel for a forum before jumping in with a question like "what is going on here". I assume that you are new to all of this and I hope that you will enjoy being at Mudcat. As you get to know the place, you will actually discover that many of us, even with diferent takes on issues are actually friends and that even when fallouts occur, most of us "kiss and make up". Jon |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: MarkS Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:50 PM Hi SorP Stick around and you will find the disagreements here are normally like disagreements between old friends. I disagree with lots of posters here and rather feel our differences could be settled over a drink or two or seven and would gladly have the chance. Put in some time and you will find you are in the company of a lot of clever and for the most part like minded people. Much the same as you describe happened to me on my first post here. There are trolls and flamers who are best ignored. Please do so and you will find Mudcat to be a rewarding site. Please stick around. MarkS |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Marion Date: 18 Sep 00 - 10:53 PM Selma or Patty, you are absolutely needed here, to help spread awareness of the genius that is the Simpsons. I got in a few Simpsons references in the "I wonder..." thread but other than that it's been a dry season. Have you seen the one where Selma or Patty falls in love with Principal Skinner, who falls in love with the other twin? Tomorrow... tomorrow is another school day! Marion |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Carlin Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:13 PM PorS stick around...the joint is actually pretty cool. It is one of the more restrained discussion forums on any subject I have ever encountered. If you want true nastiness and flaming go check out Fox News forum boards........ You will discover what a peaceful place this really is.
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Lucius Date: 18 Sep 00 - 11:40 PM I've been nosing about for a cuple of years, and I've recognized a good many posters by name--even met a few. There are jerks here (re: GUEST at 1:09), but my best advice is to keep in mind what you want from the site and avoid flame wars. Peace and Love Lucius |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Lepus Rex Date: 19 Sep 00 - 01:31 AM Jon Freeman's suggestion about 'lurking' before you jump in is a good one. I 'lurked' here for about a month before becoming a member and posting something, and I really think it helped me understand the place, and the people who 'inhabit' it. I've been here since... May? ...and only had two real bitter disagreements with members (even though I'm reluctant to call Conrad a 'member.' More of a glorified flaming guest, eh?). Which is quite a bit better than my real-life record during that time. And welcome to Mudcat, SorP. You CAN'T leave. Your nickname is actually easy to remember:) ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Lena Date: 19 Sep 00 - 02:39 AM Never mind the moon,and waking up on the wrong side of the bed. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Peter Kasin Date: 19 Sep 00 - 03:14 AM Selma or Patty - This place houses a caring community of music lovers, at it's core. Since it is an open forum, it is inevitable that some flamers/trolls/stirrers will drop by, and as others have pointed out, there will at times be real differences debated here for all to see. I think if you give this site a good, long look, you will find something special about it. It may hit you slowly - an answer to a help message one day, a back and forth exchange of humorous jibes with someone another day, and if there is some unfortunate occurence happening in your life, such as a friend becoming very ill, or a family member dying, or a breakup of a relationship, you will find some very caring and intelligent people here who will go to bat for you with messages often showing wisdom and sage advice as well as moral support. There is a sense of community here that is not apparent from the beginning, but emerges as one becomes more familiar with this site. I logged onto another music site earlier this year, and found alot of flaming, alot of people making nasty remarks at the drop of a hat, and little of the sense of community that is here. Coming back here was like coming home. There's nothing like it on the web, so you might want to stick around and give it awhile, and as Catspaw said, choose the good stuff here. -chanteyranger |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Gervase Date: 19 Sep 00 - 05:57 AM Selma or Patty, This place is like any community - populated by just the sort of people you'd find anywhere else; good, bad, indifferent and sometimes - just sometimes - bloody rude. And then, of course, there's Catspaw - like that uncle you had as a kid who could fart in tune, knew all the words to the most unsuitable songs and exasperated your parents! But where this place beats most other communities hands down is when you want some help. It could be some lyrics, some advice, a recipe or the answer to life, the universe and everything; whatever, someone will come up with the goods. Stick around - ignore the eejits, truffle through the threads and don't be afraid to ask...and welcome on board. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Peter T. Date: 19 Sep 00 - 09:05 AM Hey, chanteyranger, wise, wise words: sums it up nicely. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: guinnesschik Date: 19 Sep 00 - 09:10 AM I think she's abandoned us. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Lyrical Lady Date: 19 Sep 00 - 11:56 AM I too "lurked" for a while..(not too long though..I couldn't wait to jump aboard and be part of this community). First, I read the "classic threads", figured out different relationships, found the photo gallery...put a face to the names and now I check in every day to see how it's goin'.....AND it's goin' good ... a little slow but good! These people are articulate.. sometimes I find that intimidating but not mean and nasty. PS. Hearme for Mac's ...please..please.. please!! Cheers, LL |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: SDShad Date: 19 Sep 00 - 12:48 PM SorP, I do hope you come back to read this thread. You'll find that even though you got off on the wrong foot, this thread (with the exception of the odd flamer, whom you'll find wherever you wander on the 'Net) is basically a long, friendly list of people welcoming you among us with open arms. It's that kind of place. And please don't think that my saying above that you got off on the wrong foot is a slam or a harsh criticism of any kind. I feel it's a true statement; it's considered poor nettiquette to read an online forum for only a day or two, and then post a message that says, essentially, "what a dump!" It really is best to get the feel of the room first. If you do that, I think you'll find that a) the flamers are a decided minority, as you've already hinted, although they do sometimes stink up the place, b) some of what you might perceive as nastiness may in fact be badinage. Get used to our style of humor around here, and you'll see what I mean. Maybe you'll find that's not your style of humor, but at least you'll see the difference between one of us ribbing a friend, and one of us being genuinely pissed off. And c), some of the arguments here in the last few days have been over hot-button issues where some individuals are revealing long-standing hurts that most of us didn't even know they had, while others on the same threads lacked the context, until now, to even realize why such things hurt. That sort of conversation is likely to get heated no matter where it occurs, but if you reread those threads, you'll also find some of us at our impassioned best. We're human. Get to know us first. But if the worst you can be accused of is poor nettiquette, then you're jake with me. Welcome, new friend. Pull up a stool. Ask for some lyrics. Provide some lyrics. Share a story or a joke. Best craic on the 'Net, I guarantee. Chris |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Catrin Date: 19 Sep 00 - 12:54 PM I joined a few months ago now and have recieved nothing but welcome and support - help with lyrics, great sessions on hearme, a cheering up and some damned good advice when i was having a bad time at work and I even won a mudcat snog of the week award! I have met some catters in real life - several turned up to my local folk club one week. And I am beginning to make some new friends. I am also going to the UK gathering in October which looks like a real treat. I think Mudcat is WONDERFUL! Catrin |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Mooh Date: 19 Sep 00 - 03:09 PM Well. I get caught with my pants down sometimes, kinda like Homer, but there's few here like Sideshow Bob. Some try hard to appear that way, and others kid around at it quite successfully. You'll need to wander around here a while to make them all out. It's kinda like walking through a bar...step around the puke...duck the punches intended for others...and have a great time with your friends sharing fun, knowledge, and comfort. Welcome home, Patty. (It is Patty isn't it?) Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Lena Date: 19 Sep 00 - 10:44 PM Yes,she's gone.Oooops.... |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Peter Kasin Date: 19 Sep 00 - 10:50 PM Thanks, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Ely Date: 20 Sep 00 - 04:20 PM I have found that people here are extremely helpful, both with musical and semi-musical (heck, even non-musical) issues. I don't mind most of the BS posts because I think it's interesting to hear from people as individuals, not just as musicians. I don't expect everyone to agree with me and I don't expect to be right all the time, and there isn't anything I can say that won't touch a nerve with somebody. Oh, well. It's to be expected since we're all three-dimensional personalities and there are so many different backgrounds represented here. I've found that, even when people strongly disagree, they are pretty good about not jumping on others, and expressing themselves in a coherent and reasonable manner. My guess is that some of the "nastiness" is also tongue- in-cheek between more seasoned Mudcatters, but I know that glibness doesn't carry well over computer screens. |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jim Krause Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:13 PM Ely, Yeah, I get that idea too. Some folks just have ummm, a different sense of what's funny. Tongues firmly planted in cheeks don't necessarily translate well on the net. And like you said, some of the 'Cats perhaps know each other personally. So..... |
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Subject: RE: What is going on here? From: Jon Freeman Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:24 PM They most certainly do soddy, some know each other in the 3D world and others like myself have met few others in person but have developed good friendships outside Mudcat. Hearme can also be interesting as you get to hear other catters and also exchange a bit of chat - sort of opens up a new dimension... As regards the tongue in cheek remarks, the use of an emote icon such as ;-) or an indication such as *BG* can help to avoid missunderstandings. Jon |
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