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Subject: Thunder and Lightning From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:36 AM There has been a cloudburst here in darkest Yorkshire, the rain is stotting off the ground and the sky is a mucky yellow colour. I have never seen so much rain before, the rain drops are really big. Its like someone throwing six buckets of water at you all at once when you go out in it. (well I had to see what it was like). Needless to say I am slightly wet just now. We dont tend to get too many extremes of weather here so when it happens - well some of us get exited. Perhaps its just a Brit thing - talking about the weather Patrish |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Skipjack K8 Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:42 AM Yo Patrish, I'm just up t'road in Leeds, and whilst it ain't exactlly balmy sinshine, no anabolic stair-rods are falling. As I type, just heard the first roll of distant thunder! Funny finding out the local weather through a server in PA,USA! Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:46 AM Its still stair rodding here and noisy, but not quite so yellow perhaps its on its way to you........do not venture out in it. I am glad to have been of service, always fancied being one of those weather girls :-) Patrish |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Skipjack K8 Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:49 AM Dare I suggest you ain't stout enough!!!!? Well, it's here, absolutely hammering down, with full light show, too. It's raining men, hallejah. Is "John Kettley is a weatherman" in the DT yet, Wincey? Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:54 AM Its gone all quiet here and the suns come out. I think I'll run away to the pub and tell tales of my soaking in the rain and people will feel sorry for me and buy me beer to make me feel better and I will say yes please. fancy a pint Patrish |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: rabbitrunning Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:02 PM Uhm, as someone who has been in a lot of thunderstorms (and I _do_ enjoy them!) I'd like to point out that a computer and a modem are not the best things to play with during a storm. If lightning hits the phone lines between you and the nearest transformer-thingy it'll ground right down through you. Painful if you're lucky, fatal if you aren't! My Mommy's rules for thunderstorms: No phone calls, No baths, Shut the windows, silly! Gray sky -- go watch. Greeny-blacky sky BAAAAAAAD! Go hide. (She never did mention a yellow sky. I wonder what causes that?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: harpgirl Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:15 PM ...well...we only received steady slow rain here in Tallahassee, Florida from the backside of Gordon, which went through Cedar Key and didn't do much damage. I guess the flooding was worse further up the Atlantic Coast. We are told that another depression is gearing up and will hit near Pensacola on Friday. Hope it doesn't gain too much momentum. We are preparing here once again. Hurricanes are horrible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: JulieF Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:31 PM Yes it was definately wet out there last night here in Yorkshire. I didn't notice any thunder but we tend to assume that loud rumbles are caused by the steel scrap going into the furnaces too wet. Or perhaps I was too busy avoiding the housework watching sunny Sidney. Its really bright in Sheffield now and I'm still at work waiting for the Librarians to go home and let me muck about with their system. Julie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: bill\sables Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:38 PM Last Year at Windy Bottom Folk Festival the men's urinal was a metal trough under a tree which was OK until the thunder and lightning started, then I got to thinking what if the lightning strikes the trough at the same time that I am having a pee, water is a good conductor but can it travel upwards? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: JulieF Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:44 PM It takes the route of least resistance to get to the earth so you stood a good chance of being frazzled Julie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Skipjack K8 Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:52 PM Depends how big it is, Bill !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: GUEST,Giac, not at home Date: 20 Sep 00 - 12:54 PM Having grown up in the American Midwest's "Tornado Alley," if I saw a yellow sky, I'd head for something underground. Usually, though, yellow sky followed a tornado and green sky preceded it. My experience is that yellow or green means hail in the clouds. Do you have hail storms in England? For years I kept a hailstone the size of a large grapefruit in my freezer. Major damage to gardens, trees, houses, cars and livestock when that happens. Yes, Bill, electricity travels upwards! I haven't had that experience, usually reserved for males, but I did see the result when a small male friend inadvertently relieved himself on an electric fence. Poor little guy did quite a dance. I love the expression, stair rodding. I've seen rain like that, but, unfortunately, not very recently. We really, really need the rain. Burning outdoors is banned here (East Tennessee) now as the grass and leaves crunch underfoot and the ground is cracked. The pumpkins are pitiful small things, and no late hay cutting either. It is clouding up now, though, so maybe ... Giac |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Skipjack K8 Date: 20 Sep 00 - 01:06 PM Yup, Giac, hailstorms we have, and there were small stones in that last storm, which probably explains the yellow sky. Interested in your weather, professionally, as I trade soyoil, and I keep a close watch on the crop condition ratings across the soya belt. Interstingly, the Good to Excellent rating increased last week from 52% to 53%, compared to only 44% last year, and it looks like you're in for a real bin-buster. I realise its Iowa that really sways these things, it's just that at this late stage of crop development, I'm surprised to see an improvement. Is East Tenessee big for Soybeans? And if so, can you give me some inside information on the crop development there!!!? Thanks Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Jim Krause Date: 20 Sep 00 - 01:17 PM Yep, seen a lot o' them yellow/puke/green skies here in Tornado Alley, USA. I generally go outside and watch the clouds swirl around, just for grins until the rain starts falling down real hard. Truly awsome. I've seen some pretty big hailstones too, some big as ping-pong balls. Those will take out a good sized tree in a blink of an eye. Positively ruin your car, too. Fortunately, a storm like that only comes but once every ten or fifteen years, or so. And no, talking about the last big storm is not necessarily a Brit thing. You should hear the locals hereabouts. Not all of 'em are farmers, either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU Date: 20 Sep 00 - 01:18 PM Yep, I've seen those yellow skies alright! In my family, we say "It's yellow out". I've also seen pink skies as well. When we lived in California, back in '87, forest fires a couple hundred miles north made that skies a bizarre shade of orange. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: katlaughing Date: 20 Sep 00 - 01:44 PM Ah, yeller just means its liver's gone bad and it went all jaundiced.**BG** We had lots of rain here in Wyoming, yesterday and last night, though not lots in comparison to wetter places I've lived in. It was in the 30's this morning and there was snow on the mountain. Nature is very radical here; she's either blowing hot or cold, hardly ever in-between, a few days ago it was in the 90's and the aspens had barely started to turn golden. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Jim Krause Date: 20 Sep 00 - 01:52 PM I remember when I was a kid living in Oregon. The farmers used to burn the lawn grass stubble fields all through August and into September. Sometimes if the stubble fields were really damp, the sky would get this really peculiar yellow/brown color, and all the street lights would come on. Everything looked jaundiced. And little bits of ash would come floating down out of the sky. Man, who needed acid? Reality was psychadelic enough on a day like that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Alice Date: 20 Sep 00 - 02:02 PM Send the rain to Montana! We are still in a drought with farmers having lost crops from lack of water, the town next to us had wells run dry. We have a forecast of just as little snow and mild a winter as last year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Kim C Date: 20 Sep 00 - 04:19 PM I always thought the yellow sky was creepy. Weather extremes are just about the only things that really scare me, because they are totally out of the scope of my control. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Ely Date: 20 Sep 00 - 04:22 PM Yep, I head for the basement or bathroom when the sky turns green (Texas and Iowa are both tornado-prone). Can we have some? We're having serious droughts. It's been overcast and chilly all day and it keeps saying it ought to rain, but it doesn't. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Jim Krause Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:08 PM Rained here some last night and early this morning. I don't think it did much more than stir up the dust. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: rangeroger Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:41 PM Alice, it's been raining here in North Idaho most of the afternoon, so hopefully it is headed your way. rr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Alice Date: 20 Sep 00 - 09:25 PM rangeroger, I used to own 40 acres near Thompson Falls. Amazing to find "Pacific maritime climate" in the Clark Fork river canyon of Montana. Drought was not a problem up there. Are you near Sandpoint? Alice |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Mbo Date: 20 Sep 00 - 09:40 PM All it does here is rain! The mud hasn't returned to dirt in weeks! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: rabbitrunning Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:47 AM I've seen yellow skies, I just never figured out the correlation to hail before. Thanks. We lived in Omaha in 1985, when we got 7 feet of snow in January (the big pile in the empty lot at the end of our street didn't completely melt til the end of April) and then a big tornado in May. Once you've seen a "tornado sky" and the damage that a big tornado can do you take those things seriously! Lots of damage and two deaths. Later we moved back to Denver, and one day we looked out and saw green-black and headed for the basement, flipping radio stations to find out what was up. It was a tornado all right, but the only radio station that was talking about it was on the other side of town from the actual track and almost no one paid any attention to the Civil Defense sirens. Not a lot of damage, (four houses) but a lot more injuries than in Omaha from flying debris. Boston doesn't get tornadoes much -- Western Massachusetts does. But we get "microbursts", sudden downdrafts of wind that can flatten a tree or a house and leave all the neighbors alone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: harpgirl Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:36 PM ...weather from the beginning of the next tropical depression named Helene I think, is beginning to roll in. They said Kate of '85 was just a category 1 storm, and it shut down parts of the area for weeks. I'm battening down the hatches, now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:45 PM Well, for those of you wanting thunder and lightning along with some nice tornado weather, you should have been here last night. There was quite a bit of localized damage as cells formed and blew out sporadically. The rain was intense with steady wind at 40 and gusts to over 60. Xenia, a name familiar to all tornado buffs, was hit again last night ad they have a lot of property damage and injuries. still waiting for more news. This is the fourth time in the past 100 years that Xenia has taken a major hit, including the major disaster in '74. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Penny S. Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:05 PM I've still got a box of hail buttons an inch across I picked up in a bad storm earlier this year. My neighbour was convinced he saw stones as big a golf balls, but I was out shortly after and found nothing to justify that, including no dents on his car. We've had quite a few tornadoes over here this year, and though the statistics say that we have more than the States, they do tend to be of the "Oh look, there's a tornado, have you got a video-recorder" variety. What do mobile home dwellers do in Tornado Alley when the sky turns green? Every time I see a report I wonder about it, having a friend who lost his mobile's roof in the 87 storm, and attributes his survival to the weight of his books. And that was quite mild. Most on his site survived, and his damage seemed to be due to previous fire damage which was not apparent until the roof peeled off like a sardine can. Penny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Penny S. Date: 21 Sep 00 - 06:06 PM Mobile home as in trailer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Alice Date: 21 Sep 00 - 07:40 PM It has been lightly snowing here all afeternoon. You can see the small flakes as they come down, but they melt as they hit the ground. The mountains are covered with snow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Mbo Date: 21 Sep 00 - 07:45 PM SNOW?!?! MAN! I want some! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Benjamin Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:34 PM Thunder and Lightning is a Phil Collins song!
"They said Thunder, and they said Lighning I remember one Lightning storm I watched on the Columbia River! It was a calm night with lightning putting on an amazing show. Then all of a sudden, the winds picked up and practicly blew my tent away (thank you tent stakes!)! I slept in the car that night! Benjamin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Mbo Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:42 PM The best song to listen to during a lightning & thunderstorm is "Swallowed" by Bush. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Alice Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:41 PM My favorite Thunder and Lightning song was recorded by Chi Coltrane. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: rangeroger Date: 22 Sep 00 - 12:57 AM Alice,I live just east of Couer d'Alene in the Silver Valley by Kellogg. I love the new road they just built over Thompson Pass out of Murray. Sometimes I'll drive to Thompson Falls and back in the Karmann Ghia for the sheer joy of it. rr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: catspaw49 Date: 22 Sep 00 - 09:18 AM Watching the news and the pictures from Xenia are eerie becaus they look so similar to those from 26 years ago. The attitude of the people there is quite inspiring. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Bagpuss Date: 22 Sep 00 - 09:25 AM Ready For the Storm - Dougie McLean is a good one to listen to in a storm. But it's glorious sunshine over Leeds at the moment!!! Bagpuss |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Bert Date: 22 Sep 00 - 03:41 PM How come this thread is bring back happy memories of camping? We were camped one night on top of the cliff overlooking Fisghuard. There was a fair storm blowing but there was only about two inches of dirt covering the rock and we couldn't get our tent pegs in. So we storm rigged it and tied the lines to our bikes, which were heavy with luggage. Then there was the time we went to the Eisteddfod in Llangollen. We were on our way back to the tent in the darkl and it started raining. It was coming down in one of those bursts that usually only last a minute or two, so we sheltered under this huge elm tree (no thunder about), very soon it penetrated the elm tree so we made a run for it. It kept up with the same intensity all night and we had a river(exagerating just a little here) running through our tent by the time morning came. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Jim Krause Date: 22 Sep 00 - 03:52 PM To Penny S. What do mobile home dwellers in Tornado Alley do during a tornado warning? Run like Hell for the nearest strom shelter. That's what. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Biskit Date: 22 Sep 00 - 05:12 PM I live in Tucson,Arizona And while I'm sure most of ya think Of Arizona as a big dust bowl thats not so. We have MONSOONS no kiddin' the mosoonal flow up from Mexico, were riht in the way of it and usually with spectacular results! The clouds will build all day long up on the Rincons(mountain range) pilein' up on top of each other `till it looks like they're goin' all the way t`heaven, then the sun'll start to go down and the rumblin'll start when finally at sunset with a swoosh an'a boom here comes the storm,RAIN! man you couldn't pour water outta bucket that fast,an' wind and thunder and lightnin' we've got a flat roof an I swear ta GAWD I'v seen rain flyin' off that roof 7 or 8 feet then it'll stop just as sudden as it started. `till the next day, or maybe two days then it'll start all over again. The monsoon season usually lasts about 6 weeks, this year it started ou late and it's still goin 2 months later. peace-Biskit- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Wesley S Date: 22 Sep 00 - 05:22 PM I'm jealous - Here in this part of Texas we've gone for over 80 days without a drop of rain. I've been told that up around Abline that it's been a year since anything wet fell out of the sky. We're supposed to get some tomorrow but we're already scorched. PS - The biggest hailstone I've seen personally was the size of a softball. One of them punched a hole through the hood of a pickup truck. I met a man that lost 50 head of cattle and 10 horses in one hailstorm. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: Alice Date: 22 Sep 00 - 10:48 PM With the wind chill here today, it feels like below zero F temperature. No kidding. I think all my pond plants froze. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: bbelle Date: 23 Sep 00 - 07:48 PM I love stormy weather and my favorite time to be a the beach is during a storm. Dark clouds; drizzling rain; heavy swelling seas. Or at home on a Sunday, painting or sewing; listening to the rain outside; a pot of soup simmering on the stove; lots of hot tea. Hurricanes don't particularly scare me and I don't make light of them, either. I've been through many, both on the mainland and on islands. It's a matter of battening down the hatches and standing down. I'd never leave my home and would be furious if a government entity told me I would have to do so, or be arrested. If others want to leave, that's their business, but not me. I'd probably also go down with the ship. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: rabbitrunning Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:11 AM Most government entities feel obliged to rescue people who have gotten into bad situations and that sort of thing is a) dangerous for the people doing the rescuing and b) expensive. I'm not much on arresting people who don't want to be evacuated, but I can see why county governments resort to it at times. Maybe you could petition your state to set up a legal document that says, "I chose to stay and take the consequences, you don't need to save me." It might not salve anyone's conscience as they watch you disappear into the flood waters, but at least your choices would be yours and that's all you're asking for, yes? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 11:50 AM We had some major frog stranglers here yesterday including plenty of rolling thunder. Little ol' Bremen made the news with a pair of tornados about a mile out of town. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: bbelle Date: 24 Sep 00 - 02:26 PM rabbitrunning ... it ain't worth the hassle, believe me. North Florida is a welcome host to frog stranglers, because we've been drought conditions for a a few years. But it does create flooding because everything is so dry and it doesn't soak up properly, thereby causing floods. Locally, more towards the Gulf, we did have some severe flooding, enough to damage and even destroy some homes. What we need is a month of steady soft rain, which would not deluge the ground, but allow it to soak in. I learned an interesting tidbit the other day. One of the men, with whom I work, is about to close on a house. He was told by his agent to get his homeowners/disaster insurance posthaste, because, in Florida (and this may occur elsewhere, too) insurance brokers DO NOT write insurance, when a hurricane or tropical storm is nigh on the horizon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Thunder and Lightning From: GUEST,rabbitrunning Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:22 AM I can see your point, moonjen, but I used to be in the Air National Guard, and after one experience of trying to coordinate comm for forty guys who were getting soaked and half-frozen and generally risking their necks to get to two families who hadn't wanted to evacuate their beachside homes in a nor'easter I can see the authorities' side too. They (the families) sure yelled for help loud enough when their houses started to tilt over.
There's also the problem of looting in an evacuated area to deal with, so... *shrug* Evacuations aren't perfect solutions, but they've saved a lot of lives. If I got asked to clear out, I know I would. I pay attention to fire alarms in public buildings too.
What's a "frog strangler"? Sounds dangerous!
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