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BS: Why I'm better than you are

mousethief 20 Sep 00 - 03:09 PM
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Little Hawk 20 Sep 00 - 06:33 PM
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Subject: Why I'm better than you are
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 03:09 PM

I opened this thread as a public service for the smugly self-superior, who find a need to muddy the waters in virtually every thread, and might like one of their own, poor sods.

Use this thread to post why you are better than all the rest of us --

-because you're not an in-crowd member,
-because you are,
-because you know what "real" folk is,
-because you don't
-because you are from a persecuted minority,
-because you persecute minorities,
-because you post under "GUEST",
-because you don't,
-because you're aryan,
-because you're not aryan,
-because you hate gypsies,
-because you love gypsies,
-because you never say "gypsies" ....

WHATEVER!

No holds barred, be as nasty as you want. Not that the smugly self-superior ever bar any holds, or feel any compunction about being as nasty as they want, of course.

Hopefully we can corral all this bulltookey into one thread, and avoid thread-creep on the other threads in this direction.

O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 03:16 PM

Because I built a better mousetrap


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 03:18 PM

I am just Jon, different to others maybe but not better than anyone.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Branwen23
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 03:24 PM

hear, hear, jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: M.Ted
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 03:31 PM

"No one is better than I, and I'm just an average guy!!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: paddymac
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 03:41 PM

Amen, jon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: bbelle
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 04:06 PM

mouse ... I understand why you started this thread, however, the forum is getting slower and slower to download and this type of thread just adds to it. You've also just opened the door for the trolls, whom you are referring. It's an open invitation to flame and there's no argument against it, when you lay out the red carpet. Put your energies into constructive stuff like arguing the points of politically correct. Like I said, I understand, and I'm not chastising. Just give it some thought.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 04:23 PM

Mousethief,... before you post again will you please:

Learn a folksong,

Listen carefully to a folksong,

Write a folksong,

Or pick a folksong from the DT index and play it for a while.

I am not flaming you, or even blaming you
Perhaps taming you, But never shaming you... ;~I


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: GUEST,The Phantom Lurker
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:00 PM

moonjen - stop playing the designated mother.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:01 PM

Do we have designated mothers in this league?

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Jim Krause
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:05 PM

Back to the original thought
I can yodel
And them that don't like me can leave me alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: M.Ted
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 05:06 PM

Well played, Thomas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 06:33 PM

Ha! Ha! I like your point, mousethief...

Let's see now...

I'm better because I have absolutely no tolerance for intolerant people! Those who are intolerant MUST NOT BE TOLERATED!!! NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!! As for people who are in favour of capital punishment...they all oughta be SHOT!!! Or maybe drawn and quartered....

By golly, then we'd have some peace and quiet around here for all us tolerant, non-violent types! And there'd be a whole lot more property available in places like Texas, too, come to think of it.

Another thing...people have gotta stop saying insulting things about shit...like that it stinks, for example. This isn't a metaphor here, I'm talking about actual, literal, tactile, excretory, in-your-face shit. It's time shit got some respect in this society. Without shit, how could we fertilize the soil? I'd better not hear any disparaging comments about shit or there will be hell to pay. No shit! (to use an expression...)

*(The above, and numerous other inflammatory and illogical statements may be found in a manuscript I am presently working on, called "The Hypocrite's Handbook" I recommend it as a career guide for young, would-be politicians everywhere who want everyone's vote and simply don't care how they get it. The thing about a marshmallow is that it can fit any aperture...Watch for the publication date announcement...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 06:46 PM

I somehow posted that twice, before and after some slight editing. Sorry! I guess maybe I am not better, after all...ARRRGHHH! Time to get out the rubber sepukku blade again. I leave my one and only condom (it's been in my wallet for 11 years, in case of an emergency) to Spaw. I doubt he'll get to use it either, but there's always hope...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 07:01 PM

Ah, good. Someone fixed it. Thanks!

Now listen, people, mousethief made a very good and useful point at the start of this thread. Do you actually not get it? Or do you just not appreciate it?

Come on, it ain't that hard to figure out what he's talking about here...


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:03 PM

Okay, Littlehawk, YOU'RE better because you figured it out!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:16 PM

I am better than you are because I (usually) choose not to post to threads as stupid as this one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:21 PM

Oh, don't be mean. mousethief's a good guy, and if you're gonna criticise his thread, at least do it like moonjen did, kindly. :)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 08:49 PM

Oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way....


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: GUEST,Joerg
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:04 PM

... maybe because I REALLY don't know an answer to that question and therefore think that that's one of those REALLY good questions.

I know why I'm good, I know why I'm bad, i.e. I know what I can do better than most people and I also know what most people can do better than me. At least I suppose so(I don't dare to believe).

Telling why I'm better than anybody requires some (3rd capital) REALLY intelligent answer, my poor brains might be too weak for. But I will appreciate any good hint.

Hehe - mousethief, if that was meant to be inflammatory, you tricked yourself, if not - thank you: I do not consider this to be b***s**t (on the other hand I'm hardly interested in politics).

May I therefore support mousethief's question. Take it as "Help: What to answer when asked ..." Let me say that IMHO any answer that rejects the question or blames the one who asks it for doing so is not a good answer.

Cheap trick of course to look clever by asking difficult questions instead of answering them. But I'm a cheap chap, why not use cheap tricks. Still more clever to ask the question than to ignore the problem. If I never get cheaper than that I won't worry.

Love

Joerg


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Oversoul
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:18 PM

Because my Dobro has lots of dents and I drive an '88 Escort.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:28 PM

I don't care who is better or worse.

Mousethief, do you have even a passing interest in folk music?

I sure would appreciate you more if you could tell me a little about it! This is a folk/trad/blues forum, and I must have missed all your posts pertinent to the mudcat. ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 10:50 PM

Thomas, why don't you go to the top of his thread, click on his name, and take a look for yourself? What's with all the hostility towards new people here?

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:06 PM

Lepus, I just want mousethief to answer my question. I did the see for myself thing... Am I hostile to new people as a general rule? No! It's just when someone comes on so strong... it makes me feel standoffish

Just wondering out loud... ??? ;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Art Thieme
Date: 20 Sep 00 - 11:33 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:28 AM

Thomas.....relax man. In one of his posts he discusses how much he doesn't know and how surprised he is because he thought he did! Most of us have gotten a serious education here and I know that mousethief probably will too. I know he has bid on e-bay on some books that other members wanted, including Sandt Paton.

Believe me my friend (and I hope you are), we have a lot of folks who know much less and are not nearly as bright as mousethief seems to be. This thread may have been a little ill-advised, but its not that uncommon either. During one particularly stupid period, we were running all of these dumb boilerplate threads (Where/What Does a Mudcatter__________ ) and Art Thieme, with a beautiful piece of irony/sarcasm started a thread called, "What Kind of Condoms Do Mudcatters Wear" and the damn thing took off and became a Mudcat classic of sorts, much to Art's chagrin.

I like ya' T-Man.........Relax.....MT is just getting into it a bit.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:39 AM

"we have a lot of folks who know much less and are not nearly as bright as mousethief seems to be" ... Spaw, why hasn't anyone bitched at ME yet? It's not fair :(

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:42 AM

Would I be better if I only posted "serious" folk music threads? How about if I never told a joke, or engaged in any sort of camaraderie with other people here? How bout if I post 9 lyric requests for 9 songs that are already in the DT and in the process knocked off a bunch of BS: threads that were entertaining those wicked people around here that are perverting this forum into something lively and fun instead of leaving it as an online music encyclopedia?

Lighten up!

Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:50 AM

Well Okay Lepus.................

I just checked out your picture series and I'm amazed they would let you drop your pants in one of those booths. Next time send a picture of your face. If that is your face, I apologize, as you're not only stupid, but you"re BUTT UGLY too!!!

There ya' go..........Feel better? Happy to oblige.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 01:11 AM

Heh. Thanks...I...Guess? >:)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: rabbitrunning
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 01:17 AM

If people would listen to me!
The world would run much better.
My way of doing things is very much the best
From the money you invest
To the food that you digest
It's wrong of people not to!
'Cause I'm the one that says they've got to!

I know exactly what's right for everybody
And exactly what everybody should want to be
My advice is always free
And as simple as ABC
I merely insist that you agree
That whatever is right for me
That's the thing that's gotta be right for you!

I'm the captain I'm the critic I'm the King
I'm the judge and the referee
I dont' like to raise my voice
BUT PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THAT I HAVE NO CHOICE!

People should listen, people should listen,
People should listen to ME!

I'd love to take credit for this, but it came from a record we had in the early sixties (which I think came from a tv special) called "Jack in the Beanstalk." The evil landlord sang it.

And I think I forgot a verse. Gimme a break! My brother broke the record in '72!

CD


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: hesperis
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:06 AM

Well, I'm better than any of you, because I am the only person in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD who has permission to say anything I want to say about Bob Dylan to Little Hawk.

BTW, Little Hawk, Bob Dylan has to have been an ingestor of powdered banana peels in order to write some of his songs.

(Thanks for starting this, mousethief, I'm having fun already!)

~*sirepseh*~


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 02:45 AM

There once was a poster named Thomas
Who thought he had holier traumas
With his foot in his mouth
His mind headed south
'Cause mousethief had shown him his dramas

I am sorry. I forgot what my point was... You ARE better than me. ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:24 AM

Every man is a divinity in disguise, a god playing the fool. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:30 AM

I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Midchuck
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 08:43 AM

I am a white, male, heterosexual, British Isles-descended, agnostic, left-handed, wiseass, lazy, folksinging lawyer. I therefore perform a very important public service by providing nearly everyone with a villain to despise. I suppose I ought to take up banjo to make it complete... but oh, the fear...

Peter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:17 AM

LOL! Midchuck, that is a great capsule description. Ooooo...how they must despise you! I'm gonna do one for me...

I am a "white" (actually, kind of pink), male, heterosexual, British Isles/Czech-descended, universalist, right-handed, wiseass, moderately lazy, folksinging, Taoist, Christian, Native American, Bahai, formerly atheistic but now spiritually oriented, export-business-running, songwriting, preachy, Dylanesque, Canadian...also reincarnated from North American Indian/Japanese/British/German/Russian/South American Indian/Egyptian/Roman/and God knows what else backgrounds of both male and female lives...which gives me the right to have a definitive opinion on absolutely ANYTHING, and drives people like Wolfgang and Andres nuts!

How's that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:29 AM

DaveO - LOL also! Very good retort.

GUEST - The Emerson quote is a beauty. We are indeed gods, walking around pretending to be anything but, and most of us have simply forgotten that that's what we are here doing. The illusion is so damn convincing...but we created it out of pure thought in the first place. Or in Spaw's case, impure thought. :-))))

Hesperis - how did you find out about that? Have you been talking to Bob lately?

rabbitrunning - What a great song! Do you know Lepus? You rabbits should stick together.

As for the detractors of this lovely thread, I think they should go and listen to Burl Ives records until the paint peels off the walls (which reminds me, I need a copy of Burl singing "Goober Peas"...a great little song). Folk music is about everything, and this thread could provide some useful input into that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: guinnesschik
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 09:41 AM

'Cause all my toys are paid for.

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: mousethief
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:16 AM

Since this has turned into (at least in part) a referendum on my credentials as a folkie, let me weigh in with some evidence.

1. Posted a note on the Can I Play Like Doc Watson thread about how I learned to fingerpick using a metronome.

2. Started a thread (ill-advisedly, I admit, given that one already existed) about favourite collections of folk songs.

3. Started a thread asking advice on old-timey Gospel music.

4. Noted (I forget in which thread) that I own the Harry Smith Anthology and have learned (to play/sing) some songs therefrom.

5. Admitted I own the one-volume edition of the Child Ballads (and now have Mmario all over me to type in the annotations to the various songs! and I probably will!).

6. Discussed (again I forget which thread) that I am often "the guy with the guitar" in certain social gatherings and am called upon to lead singing in various songs (folk and otherwise).

7. Suggested to Lyrical Lady that the Seattle-vancouver area Mudcatters might get together and see Gordon Bok.

8. Admitted (in the Never Do X with Y thread) that I own a Gordon Bok CD.

--------

I hope it is clear from these plain and evident demonstrations that *I* am the folkie *you* should vote for in November! A vote for Mousethief is a vote for FOLK!

Thank you, thank you very much.

Please get that baby out of my face.

Thank you.

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:32 AM

That's not a baby....Its Lepus' butt. Ya' need to be careful what you're kissing MT.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:36 AM

Why you're better than I am:
You can probably play a musical instrument
You can probably sing in key
You can probably remember all the words
You can probably quote facts from memory and get them right
Your jokes are probably new and funny
You probably enjoy lots of music from the last four decades
You probably don't look as if you were dressed by Man at Oxfam despite the efforts of your nearest and dearest (and M&S)
You probably like cats
You probably refrain from jumping in to contribute to threads to which you can add no knowledge, and never use them to make a cheap aside, a boring anecdote or a tired joke
You never mention L***** D*****.
You're on first name terms with Pete, Jack,Swarb,Liza...
You have an online connection at home and don't have to post as a GUEST from work..
Ooops that reminds me, coffee break over..
Tara
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:42 AM

But Skiff.....Your continued service as administrator and bedpan cleaner at the NYCFTTS far out weigh your shortcomings.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:49 AM

(looks bashful, scuffs toe in dust) Aw shucks, boss, you've made me all 'barrased.
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: mousethief
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 10:53 AM

Thought it was an awfully hairy baby.

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 11:24 AM

Hey, it got Jesse Ventura elected...

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Mbo
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 11:51 AM

But hesperis, my classical guitar teacher told me that eating bananas raises endorphin levels, thus making you feel ALLLLLLLRIGHT! I think he was eating bananas when he wrote Rainy Day Women. Love that song!


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:27 PM

Thanks Mousey! I am sorry, truly. It is not credentials I was wanting, cause there is no such thing. I'm not gifted socially like you are, and so... I am jealous.

I wonder though, am I really so out on a limb wanting to talk about folk/trad music?

I guess I will just have to go back to my music room... Oh darn!!! ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:48 PM

Of course not T my friend.....And there are several threads running right now to say the least. Feel free to start another i or 200!!! What specifically do you want to talk about?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm better than you are
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 21 Sep 00 - 12:58 PM

How cuddly you can be...

You are one heck of a peacemaker (or was it pacemaker...)

Thanks again 'Spaw!

peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...peace-love-'67...


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