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Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley

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Malcolm Douglas 22 Sep 00 - 08:23 PM
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Malcolm Douglas 23 Sep 00 - 05:26 PM
Nigel Parsons 19 Feb 11 - 08:44 PM
RunrigFan 20 Feb 11 - 02:44 AM
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GUEST,Joan M Dootson. (nee Pinnington) 19 Mar 13 - 04:27 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: FLOWERS IN THE VALLEY
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 22 Sep 00 - 08:23 PM

While looking for tunes for songs in the DT that don't have any attached, I came across a transcription of Flowers in the Valley, taken from a record by Finbar and Eddie Furey.  Their version is quite badly garbled (whether by them or their source, I have no idea) but it seems to derive originally from the version collected by Sabine Baring Gould in Cornwall, and set by him to a tune that he had heard Mr. Gilbert of The Falcon Inn at Mawgan in Pyder, Cornwall, sing to a different -though perhaps related- song.  It was published in A Garland of Country Song (1895).  This is the tune that the Fureys use, though they have loosened the rhythm quite a bit.  Here is the text, which should also clear up any confusion as to where the refrain fits in (the DT transcription breaks the verses up in the wrong place):


FLOWERS IN THE VALLEY

O there was a woman, and she was a widow,
Fair are the flowers in the valley,
With a daughter as fair as a fresh sunny meadow,
The Red, the Green and the Yellow.
The Harp, the Lute, the Pipe, the Flute, the Cymbal.
Sweet goes the treble Violin.
The maid so rare and the flowers so fair
Together they grew in the valley.

There came a Knight all clothed in red,
Fair are the flowers in the valley.
"I would thou wert my bride" he said,
The Red, the Green and the Yellow.
The Harp, the Lute, the Pipe, the Flute, the Cymbal.
Sweet goes the treble Violin.
"I would", she sighed, "ne'er wins a bride!"
Fair are the flowers in the valley.

There came a Knight all clothed in green,
Fair are the flowers in the valley.
"This maid so sweet might be my queen."
The Red, the Green and the Yellow.
The Harp, the Lute, the Pipe, the Flute, the Cymbal.
Sweet goes the treble Violin.
"Might be", sighed she, "will ne'er win me!"
Fair are the flowers in the valley.

There came a Knight, in yellow was he,
Fair are the flowers in the valley.
"My bride, my queen, thou must be with me!"
The Red, the Green and the Yellow.
The Harp, the Lute, the Pipe, the Flute, the Cymbal.
Sweet goes the treble Violin.
With blushes red, "I come", she said;
"Farewell to the flowers in the valley."


A midi of the tune goes to Alan's Mudcat Midi Page, once the Olympics are over.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Sep 00 - 08:27 PM

I learned that one from Singing Together!

Jon


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 22 Sep 00 - 08:32 PM

If only Finbar and Eddie had, too, their recording might have made more sense..

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Sep 00 - 09:10 PM

LOL. Seriously, I have just checked - if they had used Singing Together, Summer Schools 1968, they would have the identical lyrics to the version you have supplied.

Jon


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Sep 00 - 05:26 PM

I neglected to mention that this song appears to be a variant of The Cruel Brother (Child #11), with a more complicated refrain and a happy ending!  Child's versions E, F, G, I, J, K, L & M all contain the three suitors dressed in different colours; version G also has the Fine flowers i' the valley/ Wi' the red, green , and the yellow interlaced refrain.  Baring Gould, of course, had noticed this connection and mentions it in his notes.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Feb 11 - 08:44 PM

Also appears exactly (and that's unusual) in English Folk-Songs for Schools collected and arranged by S. Baring Gould, M.A. & Cecil J. Sharp, B.A.

That's one I don't need to type out!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: RunrigFan
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 02:44 AM

From DT

http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiFINEFLW2.html

Flowers in the Valley

Flowers in the Valley

There was a woman, oh but she was a widow
       Fair as the flowers in the valley
With a daughter as fair as a fray sunny meadow
       The red and the green and the yellow

Ch.:    No harp, no lute, nor pipe nor flute nor cymbal
       As sweet grows the treble violin

This maiden so fair and the flower so rare
       Together they grew in the valley
Oh, then came this knight all dressed in red
       Fair as the flowers in the valley
"Thou art my bride ?I'll say? thou as thee said"
       The red and the green and the yellow

"Oh no" said she "Oh thou'st never win me"
       As fair as the flowers in the valley
Oh, then came this knight all dressed in green
       Fair as the flowers in the valley
"Thou must be, I see thou as my queen"
       The red and the green and the yellow

"Oh no" said she "Oh thou'st never win me"
       As fair as the flowers in the valley
Oh, then came this knight all dressed in yellow
       Fair as the flowers in the valley
"Thou art my love and my bride" said he
       The red and the green and the yellow

"I'll come" said she "I'll go with thee"
       Farewell to the flowers in the valley


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 04:44 AM

As far as I know, the Fureys learnt this song from Gordon Geekie, who is mentioned in the sleeve notes of TRA 168, though not as their source. As far as I remember, Gordon sang the words as per Baring-Gould, with and intricate guitar accompaniment.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: GUEST,Joan M Dootson. (nee Pinnington)
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 04:27 PM

Remember this song as my favourite from Red
Rock School, Haigh, nr Wigan. From about 1944.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Flowers in the Valley
From: GUEST,Tinker From Chicago
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 05:21 PM

You'll also find this on a Clancy Brothers album of the same name, featuring all four Clancys.


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