Subject: Songs about Fathers From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Sep 00 - 03:51 PM If you do a Digital Tradition category search for @father, you will find only three songs (now, if you search the database for the WORD "father" or "dad" or "old man," you'll find many more, but most of those just mention fathers and do not focus on the topic of fatherhood). I wonder if we could use this thread to post songs about fathers and to provide links to "father" songs that have been posted in the Forum in the past. What got me on this topic was Mick Lane. Big Mick, being the generous soul that he is, gave me his only copy of the 36th edition of the Little Red Songbook at the Getaway last year. Well, today, I got an e-mail from him, asking me for a copy of "Song of My Da" from the book. Since I transcribed it for him, I thought I'd post it here and start a "father" thread. Thanks, Mick. -Joe Offer-
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Subject: ADD: Song Of My Da ^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Sep 00 - 03:53 PM SONG OF MY DA (words and music by Paul O'Brien, Ireland) My father, a carter on the dockside in Dublin, When the hours of work were (from) dawn until dark. His only pleasures, the love of my mother, A pint on a Sunday and a stroll in the park. The big man came then and he founded the Union, My da agreed with him and stood on his side, He shared Larkin's vision that all working people Must never bow down, but stand up in pride. They lived through those bad days, and Christ! They were sad days. He often went home with a cut on his head; My ma gave him comfort, attended his wounds Saying, "We must stick it out or we're better off dead!" When the bosses called on them to fight the Great War Game, He answered, "We're fighting on here at home, Your cause is profit, your weapons are guns, But ours is the Union, our cause is our own." They lived for the three score and a bit more, Both are now dead their spirit's alive. In the words they passed on that I tell you now, son: "Demand what is yours or you'll never survive!" The `big man' is James Larkin, founder of the Irish Transport and General Worker's Union, 1908; chief speaker at Joe Hill's funeral in Chicago; arrested in the 1919 Palmer Raids and imprisoned for three years in N.Y. on a `criminal anarchy' conviction before returning to Ireland. (from the "Little Red Songbook," 36th edition, 1995) @father @labor @union filename[ SONGDA ML JRO Oct00 ^^ |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Ed Pellow Date: 23 Sep 00 - 04:25 PM Not a folk song, but one that says a lot about some 'father/son' relationships is The Living Years by Mike and the Mechanics. Ed ^^ |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Sep 00 - 04:38 PM Here's a DT search for [my old man], which brings up songs by that title by Jerry Jeff Walker, Ewan MacColl, and Rosanne Cash. Here's Steve Goodman's My Old Man -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Sep 00 - 04:43 PM I think Eric Bogle's Scraps Of Paper would be a good one - will try to note the words down later - unless anyone has them. Jon |
Subject: Lyr Add: SCRAPS OF PAPER (Eric Bogle) ^^ From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Sep 00 - 05:04 PM Scraps Of Paper - Eric Bogle
These day my life seems shomehow like a tired old cliche,
CHORUS
He and I were always strangers searching for someone Chorus
So I sit here where he lived and died, as the ghosts around me weep Chorus ^^ |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Pixie Date: 23 Sep 00 - 05:07 PM Dan Fogelberg's "Leader of the Band" is also a tune fitting the theme.....I don't know where it can be located, though. Pixie |
Subject: ADD: Leader of the Band (Dan Fogelberg)^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Sep 00 - 05:25 PM One of my favorites, too, Pixie. -Joe Offer- LEADER OF THE BAND (Dan Fogelberg, 1981) An only child alone and wild A cab'net maker's son His hands were meant for diff'rent work And his heart was known to none He left his home and went his lone and solitary way And he gave to me a gift I know I never can repay A quiet man of music Denied a simpler fate He tried to be a soldier once But his music wouldn't wait He earned his love thru' discipline A thund'ring velvet hand His gentle means of sculpting souls Took me years to understand The leader of the band is tired And his eyes are growing old But his blood runs thru' my instrument And his song is in my soul My life has been a poor attempt to imitate the man I'm just a living legacy To the leader of the band My brother's lives were diff'rent For they heard another call One went to Chicago and the other to St. Paul And I'm in Colorado When I'm not in some hotel Living out this life I've chose And come to know so well I thank you for the music And your stories of the road I thank you for the freedom When it came my time to go I thank you for the kindness And the times when you got tough And papa I don't think I said "I love you" near enough The leader of the band is tired And his eyes are growing old But his blood runs thru' my instrument And his song is in my soul My life has been a poor attempt to imitate the man I'm just a living legacy To the leader of the band I am the living legacy To the leader of the band ^^ |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 23 Sep 00 - 06:10 PM There's a great one by Enda Kenny on his CD Twelve Songs, about his father.
And here's one I wrote for mine. After he died, that's the way it is too often.
You're the one I'd want to turn to
It's strange the way so many things
And at times I get a notion
And while the music's playing
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Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: GUEST,John Bauman Date: 23 Sep 00 - 06:38 PM My father never put his parachute on In the Pacific, back in World War II He said he'd rather go down in familiar flames Than be lost in that endless blue. Well, some of that blue got into my eyes And we never stopped fighting that war 'til I first understood about endlessness And I loved him like never before. For Real--Bob Franke |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Mbo Date: 23 Sep 00 - 07:37 PM Try these:
A Love Without End, Amen --George Strait |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Dulci46 Date: 23 Sep 00 - 08:11 PM Try these: The Greatest Man I Never Knew, |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: khandu Date: 24 Sep 00 - 12:04 AM I have always been moved by Cat Stevens' "Father and Son", especially after becoming a father and being able to relate to the "Father's" side of the song; whereas, I was once able to relate only to the "Son's" side. I must also truthfully say that one of my favorite songs about fathers (and the one I most relate to) is my own creation, "A Guitar Man Named Chet" which has little to do with Chet and much to do about my Dad. (That is enough self-indulgence for tonight!) Another good one was "Daddy's Hands" by Holly Dunn. A song entitled "The Hawk" written by Kris Kristofferson (I've only heard Richie Havens version. What a Voice!) It seems to be a "father to his son" song. It is a great piece. Speaking of "Father and Son", the worst cover I have heard of that song was by Johnny and June Cash. Paul Overstreet has a very good father song "Seeing My Father in Me":; I think that is the title. It has strong Spiritual overtones (as does many of the "father" songs.) There are many more; however that is all I can think of at this time. khandu |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: bbelle Date: 24 Sep 00 - 12:07 AM Daddy's Hands is Holly Dunn. That and Oh My Papa are my favorites. |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: GUEST,Frank of Toledo Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:26 AM "I Brought My Father With Me" by Michael Smith........ |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: BigDaddy Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:32 AM "I Brought My Father With Me," by songwriter/singer Michael Smith. It's on his 1994 release, "Time." |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Barry T Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:33 AM Chet Atkins wrote and sang (yes... sang) a tune about his Dad. I recall that while he sang it he wore a fedora, just like his Dad did, and that got me all choked up 'cause it reminded me of mine.
I'll try to track down the title and lyrics. It's a keeper! |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Crazy Eddie Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:40 AM Ewan McColl's "MY OLD MAN" deserves a mention IMHO. |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Bugsy Date: 24 Sep 00 - 03:06 AM My Daddy and Me - Tom Paxton. Cheers Bugsy |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: flattop Date: 24 Sep 00 - 03:10 AM John Prine's song Paradise uses a father character. |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: GUEST,Gene Shay Date: 24 Sep 00 - 01:35 PM Judy Collins' song "My Father" is a classic and my favorite version is by Barbara Cook from a concert at Carnegie Hall. Jerry Jeff Walker's, "My Old Man" (not the same song as Steve Goodman's) has just been re-recorded by Jerry Jeff. On the new "Gypsy Songman" release. Dave Moore has a neat song called "A Little Hey Dad" on his album "Over My Shoulder" Sam Shaber, a young singer-songwriter from New York just recorded her song "Eldorado" about her dad, on her album "Eighty Numbered Streets" |
Subject: Lyr Add: GO REST HIGH ON THAT MOUNTAIN (Vince Gill From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 24 Sep 00 - 02:56 PM Didn't Vince Gill write Go Rest High on That Mountain for his father?
GO REST HIGH ON THAT MOUNTAIN
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Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Dulci46 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 03:12 PM Here's another one "Daddy Dumplin'" by Donna Fargo |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Mbo Date: 24 Sep 00 - 05:40 PM Actually, "Go Rest High On The Mountain" was written for Vince Gill's brother, and Keith Whitley. BTW I LOVE Paul Overstreet and all his songs. You might also want to check out "Heroes (Just The Same)" and "Daddy's Come Around (To Mama's Way of Thinkin')" also by Paul. |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Lanfranc Date: 24 Sep 00 - 05:53 PM I second the vote for Judy Collins' "My Father". I recall that she sang it at the Albert Hall in London just after her father died - hardly a dry eye in the house. Harvey Andrews' "For My Father" also deserves an honourable mention IMHO
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Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Mbo Date: 24 Sep 00 - 05:55 PM Daddy Never Was The Cadillac Kind --Confederate Railroad |
Subject: Lyr Add: I STILL CAN'T SAY GOODBYE (Chet Atkins)^^ From: Barry T Date: 24 Sep 00 - 06:02 PM I managed to track down the Chet Atkins song I mentioned earlier in this thread. It's entitled...
I Still Can't Say Goodbye
When I was young, my Dad would say
And I'd climb up the closet shelf
No matter how hard I try
He always took care of Mom and me
Wind blows through the trees
I walked by a Salvation Army store
No matter how hard I try
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Subject: Lyr Add: O CAPTAIN! MY CAPTAIN! (Walt Whitman) From: @risk (inactive) Date: 24 Sep 00 - 06:17 PM This one is one I put music to... by Walt Whitman. I know,... it's a bit HEAVY,... But it was glamorized by the movie The Dead Poet's Society ala Robin Williams...
O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still,
One of my favorie songs ever is one I call "Make way for the young". It is a song of passing generations of men, and I got it from MaCleod & Holdstock. I'll hunt the words for ya if you like. |
Subject: Lyr Add: GENERATIONS OF CHANGE (Matt Armour)^^^ From: @risk (inactive) Date: 24 Sep 00 - 07:04 PM Here it is, right there in the digitrad! GENERATIONS OF CHANGE (Matt Armour)
1. My father was a Bailey in a wee place near Capely
He'd feed on at Randerson, Crawhill and Camberton,
Ah but those days were his days, those ways were his ways
2. Well I was nae for ploughin', to the sea I was goin'
I've long lined the dogger bank,
Ah but those days were my days, those ways were my ways
We'll walk through the fields that my father once tilled,
For the morn will be their day, what will be their way
(Man, I've seen naught but change, but .....) (Copyright Matt Armour) |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Dulci46 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 07:30 PM These songs about Fathers a really beautiful, is making me miss mine even more than I already do. |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: richlmo Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:09 PM I agree with ,"Father and Son" and "Leader of the Band", but thanks BarryT for the words to "I Still Can't say Goodbye". I saw the Austin City Limits where Chet Atkins did it and was really moved. Dave Loggins wrote a good one called, "My Father's Fiddle" |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Mbo Date: 24 Sep 00 - 09:18 PM There's also "My Father's Son" that Ricky Scaggs does on TransAtlantic Sessions. |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Marymac90 Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:16 PM Slightly off topic, let me welcome Gene Shay, who posted above, to Mudcat. Gene has been the pre-eminent folk dj in Philadelphia for as long as anybody can remember. He mc's the Phila Folk Fest every year and is famous for telling the WORST jokes ever heard!!! Gene, are you aware that Mudcat originates in West Chester,aka Mudcatville? We do a live internet radio show there every Wednesday night at 7, always with some live music, and are always open to guests. You'd be welcome any Weds! Email me at Marymac90@aol.com All the best, Mary McCaffrey |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: richlmo Date: 24 Sep 00 - 10:47 PM Listen to "Annabel" on Don Henley's new CD "Inside Job". My first was a daughter. |
Subject: Lyr Add: STORY OF ISAAC^^ From: Stewie Date: 25 Sep 00 - 02:26 AM Like Goodman and Jerry Jeff mentioned above, Dave Mallett also has a song called 'My Old Man'. Allan Taylor has 'My Father's Room' and 'Boy Becomes the Man'. There is also this one:
STORY OF ISAAC
The door it opened slowly, --Stewie.
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Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Airto Date: 25 Sep 00 - 08:11 AM I like your song, McGrath
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Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Bert Date: 25 Sep 00 - 12:43 PM Here's one: The Father Song / Monkey Farts and here's another: They're Moving Father's Grave to Build a Sewer |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Pseudolus Date: 25 Sep 00 - 01:26 PM When I was a kid my Mom was a huge Wayne Newton fan and he did a song called "Daddy don't you walk so fast". As a divorced father of two girls, that one tugged at me a little. still does.... Frank |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: khandu Date: 25 Sep 00 - 08:43 PM Another Richie Havens tune is "My Father's Shoes". Good Song. The song by Chet is a very moving song. When Chet sang it (though he doesn't have the greatest voice), I could feel the Heart that he put in it. It has produced many a tear. I, too, as a result of this thread, am missing my dad tonight. khandu |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Big Mick Date: 25 Sep 00 - 11:03 PM And, of course, there is Phil Coulter's "The Old Man" which was written for the father of the Furey Brothers. For a discussion of it and a couple of others like it, CLICK HERE. Joe, thanks for the quick reply on "Song of my Da". And don't forget, I owe you a singing of "The Old Man". Mick |
Subject: Lyr Add: BANG THE DRUM SLOWLY^^ From: Stewie Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:33 AM Here's a poignant piece by Emmylou Harris from her brand-new 'Red Dirt Girl' album – at least, Colin Irwin says in a review that it is about her father, and I am happy to take his word for it. Check out the album. It's lovely – every bit as good as 'Wrecking Ball' I reckon.
BANG THE DRUM SLOWLY |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Mbo Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:35 AM Is she ripping off Eric Bogle? |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:07 AM The Monkey Fart song, which I recorded a few years ago, was written by my friend Mike Barrett, originally from Pittsburgh, now living in Cambridge, Mass. He also wrote the timeless Mom's Lullabye. Credit where credit is due. Hi, Gene Shay! welcome to Mudcat. All the best. Seamus |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: GUEST,jaze Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:59 AM How about Eric Andersen's beautiful "Wind amd Sand" also Joan Baez' "Gulf Winds" and her "My Father's House" |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Jock Morris Date: 27 Sep 00 - 08:22 AM Brian McNeil wrote one which goes something like: My old man was a working man, skilled in the moulding trade, In the cold blue heat of the Carron Foundry my old man was made.... Sorry, can't remember any more:-( |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: richlmo Date: 27 Sep 00 - 10:40 PM Guy Clarke's, "The Randall Knife "- pretty depressing |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Callie Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:19 PM From the father's point of view:
Vince Jones "My Baby Comes To Me" and also
Danny Hathaway "Song for My Father"
Weddings Parties Anything "Father's Day" and at a stretch, Neil Young's "Old Man". Callie
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Subject: Lyr Add: SEMPER FI (John Gorka) From: TonyK Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:51 PM I've seen some very good songs mentioned in this thread, Joe. Thanks for starting it. My favorites are Goodman's My Old Man & Mike Smith's I Brought My Father With Me. Here's another powerful one you may have heard. "Semper Fi" - by John Gorka My father met Eleanor Roosevelt in 1945 The war at last was over then and they were still alive Her husband was the president 'til he ran out of time Her Franklin D was history, they'd put him on the dime My father joined the leathernecks to stay out of the mines The new marine was just fifteen in 1939 There were medals and malaria, the South Pacific war Through jungles that were paradise and were paradise no more chorus Soldiers fight and soldiers die, soldiers live to wonder why Semper Fi Fee Fo Fum, look out peacetime, here we come Some of the men who did survive were not the lucky ones War is only good for those who make and sell the guns My father lay recovering, the hurt was all inside Sometimes the wounds that never heal are easiest to hide When Eleanor came bearing gifts to San Francisco Bay She gave my dad a blanket in the hospital that day That blanket meant a lot to him, my mother has it still Some forget the kindnesses that others never will chorus |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: Ely Date: 28 Sep 00 - 05:54 PM "Daddy, What's A Train"--?? Kate Wolf's "I never knew my father" is sad but pretty |
Subject: RE: Songs about Fathers From: TonyK Date: 29 Sep 00 - 11:36 PM Speaking of Kate Wolf, Ely, there's also 'The Eye of a Painter. |
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