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your favorite major protest songwriter?

GUEST,Fergus Murray 28 Sep 00 - 07:05 PM
Lena 28 Sep 00 - 09:41 PM
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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: GUEST,Fergus Murray
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 07:05 PM

I wrote a song about injustice, specifically the police reaction to the anti-capitalist demonstrations around Whitehall on May Day this year. It is on my web page at: http://fergusmurray.members.beeb.net/maysong.htm

...just in case anyone's interested. I thought someone might like it.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Lena
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 09:41 PM

Hesperis,i told ya that Little Hawk would know that song !!! ;)
Little Hawk,we're all looking for the lyrics of the Che Guevara song,do you have them?!


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Airto
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:06 AM

Here you go, Lena. Another triumph for search engine Google. Typing Comandante Che Guevara brought up a site containing songs about the great man. The site address:

http://spin.com.mx/~hvelarde/cuba/ernesto.che.guevara/canciones

By the way, did you know that Che had an Irish connection? His grandmother was a Lynch, from Co. Galway. I reckon his real name was Shay Kinvara.

Hasta siempre Comandante Carlos Puebla

Aprendimos a quererte desde la histórica altura donde el sol de tu bravura le puso un cerco a la muerte.

Aquí se queda la clara, la entrañable transparencia, de tu querida presencia Comandante Che Guevara.

Tu mano gloriosa y fuerte sobre la historia dispara cuando todo Santa Clara se despierta para verte.

Aquí se queda la clara, la entrañable transparencia, de tu querida presencia Comandante Che Guevara.

Vienes quemando la brisa con soles de primavera para plantar la bandera con la luz de tu sonrisa.

Aquí se queda la clara, la entrañable transparencia, de tu querida presencia Comandante Che Guevara.

Tu amor revolucionario te conduce a nueva empresa donde esperan la firmeza de tu brazo libertario.

Aquí se queda la clara, la entrañable transparencia, de tu querida presencia Comandante Che Guevara.

Seguiremos adelante como junto a ti seguimos y con Fidel te decimos: hasta siempre Comandante.

Aquí se queda la clara, la entrañable transparencia, de tu querida presencia Comandante Che Guevara.

(1965)

Esta canción fue compuesta poco de después de conocerse la carta de despedida del Che.


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Subject: Lyr Add: HASTA SIEMPRE COMANDANTE (Carlo Puebla)
From: Airto
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:10 AM

Here you go, Lena. Another triumph for search engine Google. Typing Comandante Che Guevara brought up a site containing songs about the great man. The site address:

http://spin.com.mx/~hvelarde/cuba/ernesto.che.guevara/canciones

By the way, did you know that Che had an Irish connection? His grandmother was a Lynch, from Co. Galway. I reckon his real name was Shay Kinvara.

Hasta siempre Comandante
Carlos Puebla

Aprendimos a quererte
desde la histórica altura
donde el sol de tu bravura
le puso un cerco a la muerte.

Aquí se queda la clara,
la entrañable transparencia,
de tu querida presencia
Comandante Che Guevara.

Tu mano gloriosa y fuerte
sobre la historia dispara
cuando todo Santa Clara
se despierta para verte.

Aquí se queda la clara,
la entrañable transparencia,
de tu querida presencia
Comandante Che Guevara.

Vienes quemando la brisa
con soles de primavera
para plantar la bandera
con la luz de tu sonrisa.

Aquí se queda la clara,
la entrañable transparencia,
de tu querida presencia
Comandante Che Guevara.

Tu amor revolucionario
te conduce a nueva empresa
donde esperan la firmeza
de tu brazo libertario.

Aquí se queda la clara,
la entrañable transparencia,
de tu querida presencia
Comandante Che Guevara.

Seguiremos adelante
como junto a ti seguimos
y con Fidel te decimos:
hasta siempre Comandante.

Aquí se queda la clara,
la entrañable transparencia,
de tu querida presencia
Comandante Che Guevara.

(1965)

Esta canción fue compuesta poco de después de conocerse la carta de despedida del Che.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Airto
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:14 AM

Sorry about the mess I made of the first attempt. At least it worked the second time. Next step will be to master the blue clickies.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Airto
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:20 AM

Click here


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Airto
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:25 AM

Click here


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Airto
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:28 AM

Such class!

The Mudcat teaches you something every day.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: GeorgeH
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:28 AM

Amergin, I like your take on this. I suggest you check out Dick Gaughan's "Different Kind of Love Song", which takes the same view. I would guess the words are on his web site:

Click here

G.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: GeorgeH
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 08:36 AM

Hey, the blue clicky thing worked. And having checked it I can say that the song "Different kind of love song", words and music, is at:

http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/songs/texts/lovesong.htm or Click Here

G.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 11:50 AM

Let's add Tish Hinojosa, for songs like "Noche Sin Estrellas", and some others on the "Destiny's Gate" album.

A protest singer is one who points out injustices and proposes alternatives, and Tish has certainly done that most effectively.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: hesperis
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:11 PM

Thanks very much, Lena and Airto.

Can someone translate that for me? Oh, and post chords, too, please?

I need to learn spanish now.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: GUEST,Bob P
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:24 PM

Am I alone in wanting to protest the phrase that is the subject of this thread?

Should I try to be less sensitive to categorizing?

I can't think of anyone whose music I like whose work doesn't contain some element of "protest".

What lies at the core of folk or blues that doesn't deal with some issue to take issue with?


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: hesperis
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:36 PM

Bob P, I take issue with your post. (wry grin)

Seriously though, I would define a "major protest songwriter" as a writer who:

1) Has written several songs with large elements of "protest" and social justice in them,
or
2) Has written at least one song that has had a major impact on the way I or others think about issues of social justice.

Or both.

Songs with just some elements of protest don't count as "major" in my opinion.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 12:15 PM

Seconded: Tom Paxton (just listen to his 'Politics' album!)and every Scottish name mentioned so far.
Plus: Australia's Judy Small - and what about PEGGY Seeger?


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: Escamillo
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 04:16 PM

Thanks Hesperis for your PM, tonight I'll post the best translation I can do. Since I don't have the chords, will try to find a MIDI for the Che Guevara song. I'm sure it will be easy to find the three simple chords.

Un abrazo libertario :) - Andrés


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: GUEST,Rose
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 10:21 PM

In terms of writing and singing about injustice, I'd cast my vote for Shawn Phillips.


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: kendall
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 08:39 AM

Dave Mallett wrote in regard to the baby seal slaughter on the ice floes of Newfoundlad... "And mothers your babies keep grand ladies warm
As they stand on verandas at dusk
It's too bad we killed them before they could swim
But you know that the whole world was given to us..."


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Subject: RE: your favorite major protest songwriter?
From: TonyK
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 03:10 PM

Kendall, what is the name of that Dave Mallett song? TK


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