BS: last night I had the strangest dream..

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ely
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 11:22 PM

I do write them down if I still remember them when I wake up, especially if they are as wacky as that. I think one of the reasons I did remember them is that normally, no matter how kooky a dream is, I can relate it to something that I've experienced or been thinking about recently, but I couldn't in this case.

Am not familiar with incubi and succubi but they don't sound very pleasant. I'll look them up.

One of my friends who has suffered a lot from sleep disorders reminded me of the tales of monster-like creatures that come and sit on one's chest, and that there is a sleep disorder of which dreams of such creatures are symptoms. I cannot remember which disorder it is or I could give a better explanation. I wasn't dreaming of any demons but I wonder if the sensation is the same sort of thing. I don't have a sleep disorder (I sleep just fine 99.9% of the time) but when I am particularly exhausted I'm more prone to really bizarre, almost hallucinatory, dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ely
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 11:46 PM

"C. Sleep paralysis, as defined by David Hufford, is "a period of inability to perform voluntary movements, either when falling asleep or when awakening, accompanied by conscious awareness." Such paralysis during sleep is normal. But what may constitute a sleep disorder is bad syncronisation between the sleep state and paralysis, which can result in the subject being paralysed and fully awake. A sensation of heavy pressure on the chest often accompanies sleep paralysis."

From: http://www.generation.net/~valmont/ivtq/ivtq12.html

This isn't exactly what I was talking about but it's interesting (I was thinking of the Henry Fuseli painting, "The Night-Mare"). A version of that can be seen here:

http://www.illusionsgallery.com/nightmare.html

Sorry if these don't come out blue and clicky. I don't know how to do that.

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:21 AM

My Dad died suddenly in 1993. I have a much-younger half-brother,and my Dad had put aside a sum of money for him,and also wanted his home and belongings sold and divided between the two of us.Unfortunately,my Father had put a lot of the money in a cd in my brother's name,and when Dad died,Eric legally was entitled to it.His mother (he was 16 at the time) used this money in an attempt to grab the estate for herself,to delay sale of the property,and in every way to fight me as executor,and to stymie the distribution of the estate.Eventually,I turned the balance of his trust fund over to him(her) rather than see it consumed by legal battles.

On the day the estate finally closed,I went to bed in pain and sorrow,not so much because my brother's future was now in jeopardy,but because I felt I'd failed my Dad in his last request.That night,Dad came to me in a dream. He walked into the room,wearing the pajamas I'd seen him in often,and stood by the bed.It was not frightening,and his appearance to me was not even surprising.I tried to explain what had happened, to tell him how sorry I was. He smiled at me,and said "I know all about it,and I'm proud of you.You did the best you could do.None of the rest matters." He smiled again and was gone.The next day I felt that a huge burden had been lifted from me.

Do I think I was visited by my Father's ghost? I'm not sure. But I do think that the world of dream is just that...another realm of being,a realm where we can experience terror or pure joy,live out fantasies,and perhaps reach out and touch those who have left us.Dreams seem to have their own continuity. I visit places in dreams that I have visited repeatedly before. I could not describe them to you now,but in my dream the feeling is "ah! I'm here again!" Symbols, too, recur.When I am approaching a large life-changing event (leaving a job,moving,the breakup of a relationship), that Change Dream is centered around a tornado - a very real-seeming,irresistable and frightening force. I am somehow swept up in the action of the dream,but simultaaneously aware that I am being given important information.

A very interesting topic...

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: GUEST,Nightdrifter
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:27 AM

I have been interpreting dreams for 30 yrs. and will be glad to do so for anyone who wants to ring me as I do not like to type. If you want my phone number give me an e-address to send it to and your name. I do not charge, nor do I accept gifts. I do believe that knowledge not shared is wasted. God bless Nightdrifter

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 12:42 AM

But what is a dream- and what is real? Three times in my father's last year, he told my brother, he woke up when he felt a nudge on his knee. And then, he said, there was an angel at the foot of the bed smiling at him. Not scary, at all, he said, but rather nice.

What he greatly feared was that the angel was warning him that his new wife was going to die, and he didn't want to be left alone again. My brother told me that his own thought was: Oh, no, Dad, this one is for you.

My father was not a fanciful man and I never heard him recount a dream.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 04:34 PM

I had a horrible experience in a motel. I kept waking up with a man standing over me. I jumped up, turned on the light and he was gone. After the third time I left the light on. I had friends in the adjoining suite. At breakfast the next day, the wife told a wierd tale of waking up several times with a man standing over her.

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: mousethief
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 04:35 PM

Sins, that doesn't sound like a dream but a ghost story.

Alex
O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Mbo
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 04:43 PM

Reminds me of a classic Jewish curse "May you inherit a motel...and be found dead in every room!"

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Sep 00 - 05:59 PM

Thread Creep Alert! Closer to Hallowe'en, how about starting a thread on ghost stories? The scarier, the better!

Ebbie

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 01:48 AM

...and as I drift I find myself in this very thread, as promising as any thread to float in to whilst dreaming in cyberspace, and so I settle down and look at what I have to play with in this dream....and of course there is a lot going on with wires and discs and there is a sign that says to ride the Celeron you must be as tall as Snoopy and I'm not quite as tall as the Charlie Brown sign over by the Pentium rides, so I'm stuck but if I think positive it might be fun and since I just ate a bunch of cookies out of the recycle bin (and I wouldn't admit that to just anybody), I think I might just as well stay with the slower rides anyway and off I go....past the ferretsoft and onto the homesite of the folk music school where I teach bodhrán to people who think they're gonna make big bucks in the music industry and then to the website of Rush Limbaugh, so I rush through as quickly as this slow Celeron will carry me and thank God I make it through without too much of it rubbing off on me, and next I find myself at the Mudcat Tavern but I promised to post a dream to this very thread so I come back to where I started and look around and see a big Screen and AAAAGGHHH.....there's this goofy guy hunched over a keyboard staring at me and I wake up screaming!

Slán,
Rich

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Naemanson
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 07:32 AM

To Rich(bodhránai gan ciall),

You mentioned losing one bone of a set. I haven't exeperienced that agony yet but a friend gave me a single ebony bone of what must have been a beutiful set at one time. Are you missing an ebony bone?

BTW, in a twist on the classic zen aphorism, What is the sound of one bone playing?

Re DREAMS:

I used to dream of being chased by dinosaurs. Generally I was running through the forest with the beast right behind me. I would generally end up at a cliff. I was faced with the choice of jumping or being eaten.

In another recurring dream I was goven the choice of being executed by either drowning in quicksand or being beheaded by guillotine.

Question to parents:

Have you had nightmares concerning your children? Mine are particularly vivid and leave me shaking and sweaty. Those ruin my whole night. It's tough getting back to sleep. The worst was when adump truck was backing up over where they were playing. In my dream I was beating on the driver's door trying to get him to stop. Even today the memory of that dream leaves me shaken.

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 01:03 AM

Naemanson, that's not my bone. If memory serves correct it was cherry, but I'm sure it was some kind of light wood.
Thanks all the same.
Rich

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 01 Oct 00 - 11:36 PM

"That's not my bone." I hope that proves to be the worst sounding sentence I ever post here. Sorry.

Rich

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: CamiSu
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 01:38 AM

Naemanson

I know whereof you speak on the nightmares about children. I also have had the very unpleasant experience of (in my dreams) reliving an accident my youngest had a few years ago when he wascrushed by a stack of green lumber. He is alive, but I'm pretty convinced that he wasn't when I pulled him out, and prayer brought him back. The terror of that picture was a while leaving, believe me.

My husband also once dreamed that something was coming for a child, and had to pray quite a while before he could go back to sleep. That dream never returned.

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: Naemanson
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 01:46 AM

Oh, CamiSu, I hadn't thought I might awaken something from the past! I'm so glad things turned out all right.

The loss of a child must be one of the most horrific things imaginable. I'm sure that fear is the source of my nightmares. They do not happen frequently, no more than one every year or so but they are particularly vivid and horrifying.

I do not, as a rule, pay close attention to the news. I touch lightly, keeping an eye on history as it happens, but not getting too involved. I know what that sounds like but I have been burned out by infotainment and I cannot find any news reporting that is unnecessarily biased.

But all that is for another thread. What I wanted to say is that I opened the Sunday paper this morning to find the pictures of the father and son in Jerusalem huddled in terror as the bullets fly. That is a fear I do not need but will always carry.

Subject: RE: BS: last night I had the strangest dream..
From: CamiSu
Date: 02 Oct 00 - 09:37 PM

I have not seen the picture but have heard of it on NPR. That is an image I'd rather not have in mind. I had enough trouble with the image several years ago of a child killed in Bosnia, and found it VERY hard not to hate the perpetrators of that bit of evil.

BTW, while Ben does carry some scars as well as some hidden damamge (he is totally deaf in one ear), he is completely unafraid of anything!

Cami Su